Or you could just continue leaving the exact same types of questions and answers that you constantly call others out on instead. That's a great example you're setting. :P
Pretty much. @Mooseman, you're kind of single-handedly contributing to Life Hacks being as bad or worse than every other site just like it, despite having potential. And then you get defensive when you get called out on it. You can't handle your responsibility there, so drop it already. The site stinks and you're really bad at keeping it worthy of the stackexchange.com domain. You constantly posting crap questions and answers doesn't help. cc @michaelpri, @Frank
Don't get me wrong. I'm fine with the suspension, I understand that, and will tone down the comments, at least the ones I can guess might be destructive. But you're hurting the site, independent of my comments.
You don't need to reply. Everybody can see it. You see it in the votes. You see it in the comments. You see it in the attitudes towards you. And you can't deny any of it.
@JasonC I congratulated you on being constructive... whatever happened to that? Either attempt to make the site better by being constructive, or ignore it. If you're not going to be constructive, you're going to be yelling at the sky and no one's going to pay attention.
I may agree with you that some LH questions may not be the best, but the CM's haven't shut it down yet, nor have they commented that the question quality should be improved.
@hichris123 The thing is, the comments aren't that destructive. More of them are constructive, and the "destructive" ones still raise good points (even the suspension message acknowledged that). I can't actually figure out which comments are legitimately considered destructive because Mooseman has a tendency to delete (and even sometimes edit) even well-intended comments, particularly ones that draw attention to poor questions not being deleted, and poor answers, constructively or not.
So it's a bit more complicated than you're making it out to be.
Walking quickly would be faster than regular walking. But is this really the type of question that is acceptable on this site? This is absolutely awful. — Captain ObviousMay 15 at 3:16
@Mooseman That's because the question, like most of the questions here, is crap. It doesn't need a hack, and this is the right answer. — Jason C57 secs ago
@hichris123 "Oh, I could just walk quickly." Followed perhaps by another person's opinion on whether or not it really is the type of question that is acceptable (hence my question).
I can't think of any other way to ask if a question is really the type that is acceptable on a site.
I think the site has potential. Great potential. I think the site as it stands hurts the world. I don't want to hurt the world. I want the world to be better. Life Hacks goes against what I want, yet has potential. Therefore I dislike it, and yet I'd like to improve it because it potentially could be a one-of-a-kind opportunity to improve the world.
The problem with meta-comments under a post is that they interfere with the reception of the post. If you flag or close you give others the option to decide. If you don't like that outcome you can always start a meta-discussion. It gives you evidence you need to have a proper discussion on meta
@bjb568 Well, meta, as long as it's well thought out. Don't start complaining there. You'll cramp my style. Constructing a solid post has been on my back burner for a while.
@hichris123 I guess another way to phrase it besides what I said above is basically I see it as a waste of a great opportunity, combined with the damage (imo) it currently does being a type of damage that I particularly resent. So it's a mix of emotions.
Some starrer didn't really get the gist of the conversation, it seems.
I post realistic, non-arbitrary-object-list answers when I can, I write on meta, I leave plenty of constructive comments. Sometimes I leave destructive comments. Again, we've established that. I got suspended for it because that's what happens. Yay, the system works. But your view seems to be filtered.
@hichris123 I didn't come here ranting about how I shouldn't have been suspended, or about how I totally disagree with that decision, or claiming that I have zero destructive comments. Because none of those are true. You've been responding to the wrong rant.
@hichris123 So? I'll do it anyways. And in the mean time I'll also do things that do accomplish what I want to happen. They aren't mutually exclusive. Deal with it.
And besides, I have no idea if my comments to Mooseman above had any effect or not. Nor do you. For all I know, what I wanted to happen happened. Maybe Mooseman is thinking about something, even if he doesn't realize it. Or maybe not.
@hichris123 No. The mods basically said they were sick of moderating comments. It doesn't matter if I disagree, I have to respect that. Again read what I already wrote.
Fortunately I am not arguing against the suspension or talking about my comments.
You can now use a shortcut to post a reply to one, two or three messages at the same time, in this shape:
sd cmd1 sd cmd1 cmd2 sd cmd1 cmd2 cmd3
cmd1 will be invoked in the most recent message, cmd2 on the message before that and cmd3 on the message before that.
It's also possible to skip a message. Replace a command by a - to skip a message. For example, `sd - delete` skips the most recent message and deletes the message before that one.
Smokey will reply to your shortcut command, unless all commands have quiet
@hichris123 No. There is very little in the way of consensus on anything on that site. Not least of all because Mooseman in particular often seems to go directly against many of the discussions, creating even more confusion.
@bjb568 Well, meta, as long as it's well thought out. Don't start complaining there. You'll cramp my style. Constructing a solid post has been on my back burner for a while.
@Mooseman But one example that immediately springs to mind is your question about dust in the edges of the monitor. Contradicts close reasons, contradicts discussions seemingly indicating what constitutes a good question, and was a duplicate, no less, contradicting the importance of searching before posting. And you, as a mod, set that as an example.
Fortunately you had the good sense to self-close it after receiving criticism. But you still posted it.
@Mooseman And of course the multiple obvious contradictions where you yourself say "this answer does not appear to be a hack" then post answers like "if you're overloading a circuit in your house, use a different circuit" without second thought. It's confusing. Make up your mind.
@Mooseman Good, I don't claim to be perfect either. Are you saying you committed a wrong, knew it was wrong, but did it anyways before fixing it? That sounds weirdly like a snarky comment above that you presumably starred.
Moderators are human, but your expectations to set an example for others are higher than everybody else's. If the expectation is too much, give up the diamond. Period.
If you can't maintain a level of ... role-modelness (or whatever), and wish to have the same freedom for mistakes as the rest of the users, then you are in the wrong position. That doesn't mean you don't get to make mistakes. That just means you don't get to make them constantly.
@Mooseman Are you saying "Welcome to Life Hacks! This answer does not seem to be much of a hack." is constructive?
You don't get to make that criticism then do the same thing yourself. Other users do. You don't. Because you have a diamond.
@Mooseman Then guide them by comment and by example. Not just by comment with contradicting examples.
If you can't (or just don't want to) guide by example then, back to this again, just be a user, not a moderator. You are held to higher standards.
You have this site in your hands that has potential to be awesome, to encourage critical thinking, to help people solve problems. Why don't you try to make it live up to that potential, instead of being another copy or /r/lifeprotips or whatever?
If mods on LH would stop posting questions and answers (and assume they stopped doing that when they became mod) would we have had this same discussion?
Most likely not. But we might have a slightly different (and less interesting discussion) about how useful it would be for mods to start posting good questions and answers as examples.
@Mooseman I'm not talking about your one "no", if you're referring to the birds. And even that, your quote doesn't back up your claim (besides, if "no" was truly correct, why didn't you responsibly point out the incorrectness of the other answers?)
Graphic Design as a new close reason, basically WHYT
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> If you're asking for help with implementation, please include what you've tried and why it didn't work with screenshots. Please edit your post with what your desired results are, what resources you referenced and why those didn't work. See this meta post for discussion and see this post on how to ask a good question.
I really think all the SO HNQ's should be deleted. This question is just asking "Why does my multithreaded program not act like a single threaded program?"
Well, okay, maybe not deleted... but downvoted for sure.
Feeling sentimental about OR->DENVER data center move. It was Stack Overflows first baby (and mine): http://blog.stackoverflow.com/2009/02/new-datacenter-migration/ #milehighops
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