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12:01 AM
agh NAA and abuse are too close together, I misflagged again
@bjb568 use keyboard shortcuts
MF2 for abuse
MF3 for NAA
there, problem solved
> 2 and 3 are too close together, I misfalgged again
12:19 AM
@bjb568 What's the difference between browsers?
I'm showing that they all are crappy, so you can't just blame Safari.
I'm not wild about the outline either, but it can't be changed for an embedded chart. If I rewrote the thing using Data Visualization API, that would be possible. Some other time..
12:37 AM
Anyone planning on unpinning that message about the bots?
Why's it pinned anyway?
im going to give mooseman a free pizza now. [translated]
@AstroCB just wait for a few days, it will be unpinned automatically
Thanks bjb!
12:53 AM
[ SmokeDetector ] Offensive answer detected: Why would Voyager require 75 years to return home? by user45989 on scifi.stackexchange.com
@SmokeDetector tpu-
one word, duuuuuh
OOOOOO Bjb likes someone?
does he even like like somebody?
what is this, kindergarten?
Ummm, this is the Tavern, sooooo roughly yeah
1:02 AM
^ was on the wrong tab :p
Obviously we are kindergarteners.
I sometimes catch myself using SE close reasons when answering questions by email...
1:21 AM
I close my history essay questions as NARQ then flag them for mod attention as plagiarism.
Then, regretfully, I answer in pain. I answer in vain.
Closing and answering... a move to score some points, I know.
That's what screwed up point systems are about.
1:33 AM
21 hours ago, by Roombatron5000
diy use to be very well designed , but it was ruined , also something very weird is going on with the loading of diy since the change and still hasn't been fixed
still relevant ^
should i start a bug on meta.SE even though already reported on diy's meta here ?
hmm... the logo looks more like architect/engineering than home improvement
what loading?
it's like no one that could figure it out has seen it probably
@AndrewT. there's loading bug in firefox , maybe other browswers, i've timed it at 6 seconds to load any page all the time
even going back to diy from another site open in another tab, just scrolling is bugged slow....... so its made diy like unusable like dialup
no repro on Win7/Chrome42. loaded in ~2s, from SG
I'll try other browsers
Regarding the starred message by @BradLarson, is there a meta post about this? I agree those are junk edits and he deserved the suspension, and sure, we could go all OCD and roll them all back (those whose owners haven’t already fixed them), but I’d like to first see some pre-approval of that action by the community or its moderators or managers — just to be on the safe side.
@Roombatron5000 somewhat repro'd on FireFox... a bit sluggish
1:40 AM
@tchrist plus it was only a 3 day suspension! @nicael got 30 , also they should go through and suspend users that approved these edits... not saying if you approved 1 or 2 of them to be suspended, but if you approved a lot and didn't really reject any they need to be suspended too... well maybe not suspended suspended but banned from reviewing for a while
@tchrist Well, Brad is an SO moderator (I think you know, but...). ;)
Re: pinned message, I wanted to start, but without any status/coordination with other, I don't even know where to start reviewing those edits
@hichris123 Well yes, but so was Mr Superfreako. Then again, it’s harder to get a pin here than elsewhere, and I imagine somebody would have fixed it by now if it had been inappropriate. But I couldn’t understand why I didn’t notice that anything had been done yet.
I mean, it was 10h ago.
So I was nervous.
@tchrist ... Superfreako?
A recent ex moderator. No need to name names.
1:46 AM
That has nothing to do with this...
I’m sure. :)
Anyway, Brad was just saying that he didn't want to do it all alone, and so if the community could help, that would be great.
Too bad the judge’s suspension didn’t include social-justice terms and conditions under which the malefactor had to fix his own mess. :)
this should be on ELU too if not already
dear Firefox: please patch logjam. thanks, - Doorknob
1:54 AM
@tchrist Brad is an SO moderator. He was doing his own thing (which he'd do regardless of anybody's help) and asked for help. It's expected that one uses discretion instead of blindly rolling things back. Specifically, the edits that broke formatting.
The request is reasonable, looking at the list in question.
@santiago flag and disengage.
@santiago Flag the question and walk away.
Yeah that.
have flagged the comments, not sure if anythign would be done though
@santiago flag report it and take your hands off the keyboard
1:57 AM
Flag the question with a custom "needs moderator attention" flag
actually, I have flagged, but are looking at other questions
@santiago You did the correct thing. It will be taken care of when a moderator sees the flags. Until then, just pretend it doesn't exist.
I took the opportunity to beef up my helpful flag count there as well.
Please refer to the "Get Your Head Out of Your Ass" guidelines in the "F*ck You Centre" — Trddu 1 hour ago
unfortunately a 404
@JasonC never let an injustice end without taking advantage of it
Exactly. Glad we're on the same page.
2:03 AM
@Doorknob Chrome/ium is in the same boat since Feb, they are just fallbacking (actually FF did first)
preserved in all its glory
@bjb568 lol
2 nc comments left
@bjb568 Probably doesn't need to be preserved. :P
meh, it's funny enough for me
2:05 AM
Are comments automatically deleted after some number of flags?
@JasonC yes
there are some keywords that makes them removed in a single flag
@JasonC yea, think it's like 3 flags for 0 score comments, then add 1 more flag needed for each upvote score comment after that
no bother checking the correct rules since it happens so infrequently
Yeah, the keywords I know about. I didn't know about the 3-ish flag thing. That's cool.
@JasonC Define broke formatting. I feel that all those backticks suck.
2:09 AM
@tchrist If you would normally edit them out upon happening across that post, then edit them out. Otherwise, don't.
@bjb568 youtube google really needs to pay drivethrough window employees for all the harassment they've caused
@Roombatron5000 Because people who cause other people to harass should be payed?
Check your grammarz.
Jason's comment is so constructive that I can't even.
> I even got a brand new surge protector to prevent anything bad from the wall reaching my PC, and I also moved my build to the other side of the room so I'm on a different power rail. But still, card 3 shit the bed.
Is this… an idiom?
2:12 AM
"shit the bed" = asploded
Huh, never heard it before. Is it local to a geographic area?
@JasonC assploded?
I dunno, I've heard it a lot before though (Northeast US)
we know you're in NY
I grew up in PA, so I picked a bigger area.
It might not be so much geographic as not used so much any more.
shit hit the fan?
i think thats more common
2:17 AM
It's kind of similar. Different usage, I guess. Shit hitting the fan is an event, and shitting the bed is something you can do.
Although I guess you could... hit the fan with shit. Or something.
oh so that's like shit for brains
Shit for brains is something you can be.
Like, what's up, shit-for-brains?
someone summoned me?
Although I guess it's something you can have but I've never heard anybody say "Excuse me, sir, but I couldn't help but notice that you have shit for brains."
@SmokeDetector rename your blacklist to shitlist
2:21 AM
@JasonC That should be a custom comment on SO posts
@JasonC adds to autoreviewcomments
^ Lol
@bjb568 What year were you born?
meh, can't say
somewhere between 2002 BC and 2002 CE
@bjb568 what is your favorite color?
@bjb568 I thought so: There is a strong correlation between your birth and poop.
2:27 AM
@Roombatron5000 hm… ~650Thz, pure
@bjb568 ... BCE, ya mean? Be consistent!
did you just express a color as a frequency of the wave?
@hichris123 whatever
@James yes
@bjb568 Either use BC & AD, or BCE & CE. Mixing defeats the whole purpose. :P
@bjb568 Wavelength is more traditional.
2:29 AM
@hichris123 I don't have purpose.
Screw tradition.
goes all emo
Oh you're such a rebel.
@bjb568 doesn't conform to your system, maaan
I'm such a regulator.
@bjb568 is solely responsible for the rise of poop and crap in the 21st century.
2:30 AM
Who the hell are these "Brad Larson" and "Shog9" people? They're hogging the stars board!
The evidence is undeniable.
@AlexisKing Say something stupid.
@JasonC Vaccines cause autism.
@bjb568 Thats a calming blue-green color
@AlexisKing We need a revolution of the proletariat or something. We can't let ourselves be dominated by the 1%!
2:31 AM
Lol you've exceeded my expectations of stupid.
MMMM domination
@James Yesh.
@JasonC Yes! I WIN
I almost wanted to argue with you about it.
2:33 AM
Lol Doorknob couldn't resist.
@James hahahaha the HTML source code for that one is awesome.
so many <br/>
@JasonC I'm pretty pleased since that really can't possibly be seriously taken out of context, but you don't really need to leave it on the pinned stars board. ;P
2:36 AM
@AlexisKing We need to inform the populace of truths!
@Doorknob That Coleman and de Luccia quotes is one of my favorites. I share it with my friends when they're feeling depressed.
!xkcd find sheeple
It's from uh...
wow, @xkcdBot didn't let me down utterly
that's a first
2:37 AM
woah look, a bot actually being used for a productive purpose!
well, productive-ish
@JasonC hrm, makes sense, yep, yep, nods and smiles
@James That told me to build something with Fortran and AS3.
2:40 AM
@Doorknob Before you say that, I think we're going to need a functioning definition of "productive" for the Tavern.
@AstroCB cats (with the notable exception of bjb)
That's totally reasonable except "lightweight facebook"
that part crosses the line
This is so awesome.
What utterly crappy questions that guy edited! You usually have to roll back his ransom notes AND then edit them into English AND then close vote them.
2:42 AM
Wow, you're like a moderator now!
Doing the productive things!
right, english exam tomorrow
bjb is on record for equating doing anything productive to being basically a moderator
this is what happens when you update your userscripts
2:43 AM
Who the hell are these "Alexis King", "Brad Larson", and "Shog9" people? They're hogging the stars board!
Pascal based platform for rapidly developing experiments based on Google Gears data
Google Documents powered Windows emulator for Flash games
@Doorknob Wow, that is so relevant to my life.
Dec 26 '14 at 15:16, by Sompuperoo
i don't like pinned messages
2:46 AM
pines for messages
Oh this sounds like fun
Is it a phishing game about fish? I like fish.
Let's make it happen, @JasonC.
@rene Thanks.
2:52 AM
@bjb568 TL;DR: There's a chance that bad luck will cause the entire universe to fall apart at any moment (and it would suck).
Sounds exciting!
There are also all ancient questions, like from MMIX.
[ SmokeDetector ] Repeating characters in answer: Check if words are isomorphs by MollyMuckoff on codegolf.stackexchange.com
If autocomplete is sentient, maybe it can help us overthrow the upper class.
(plugging in phone right away)
3:12 AM
Wooo Bronze Tag Badges
it only took 140 Answers
I think "add comment" should be changed to "tell a funny joke".
@tchrist needs to come and complain about camera quality ^^^
@bjb568 stop posting selfies
3:12 AM
not me
@bjb568 For a watercolor painting?
@AlexisKing No evil FUD in this chat.
@tchrist dirty window
@tchrist it was all @Jason's fault!
@AlexisKing !!/blame
@AlexisKing Hey you could have said any number of stupid things.
3:15 AM
@James It's Andrew T.'s fault.
@JasonC you're an enabler!
@BradLarson I did fifty. Most needed further editing, not merely simple rollbacks.
@AlexisKing ur mom is an enabler
3:16 AM
3:31 AM
> this combination of tabs, dropdowns and toggles that keep winking in and out of existence makes me yearn for the good old days of command line interfaces.
Seriously, put a large search box on top of the question list and have the documentation of search parameters handy. That's all.
4:10 AM
[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword in body, blacklisted website: brightens the skin look? by ashadirma on drupal.stackexchange.com
@SmokeDetector tpu-
The day officially begins now
4:34 AM
shoot, missed it
4:48 AM
[ SmokeDetector ] Blacklisted website: Unfortunate tendency to view Christianity by elisestep on drupal.stackexchange.com
@SmokeDetector tpu-
@SmokeDetector tpu
@tchrist Blacklisted user and registered question as true positive: added title to the Bayesian doctype 'bad'.
@tchrist already did it , the "-" at the end just surpresses @smokey from leaving a confirmation chat message is all, saves space
5:04 AM
It's been a while since we had multi-site spam campaigns. I miss those.
@Roombatron5000 Thanks.
I'm pretty sure that critique is not among the ten hundred words that people use most often. I think it's too fancy for UI.
But is there a more common word that means roughly the same...?
3 hours ago, by Roombatron5000
this should be on ELU too if not already
Follow the link in this question: stackoverflow.com/q/30388784/1864610 - this looks like spam to me. Any thoughts?
5:17 AM
@HoboSapiens The OP asked other questions of the form "how to do X in R", so I don't think this is spam.
Q: How Do I Develop a Society of Geniuses?

Serban TanasaGoal: Achieve a society where the average person is a creative and/or analytical and/or strategic genius and/or physically phenomenal (as measured by our current standards, of course). Steps: Start with a regular extant human society. It can be the United States, North Korea, Sudan, Singapor...

WB is a really fun site.
@Yes It just seems like an odd thing to want to do in R. VtoC anyway, since it's a dreadful question.
5:20 AM
> Do no select solely for intelligence. There are those infuriating individuals out there who are both intelligent and physically above average...go for both
People do web-scraping in R, there are libraries for that.
@Roombatron5000 This is a stupid question because a "genius" always has to be relative to some other population, and it's incredibly unlikely that somehow you'd be able to develop an isolated population of smarter people for lots of different reasons.
@AlexisKing we know what he means though - relative to before the society of geniuses
@Roombatron5000 Here's the problem: we already have.
Our society is already a society of geniuses in comparison to just a couple hundred years ago.
So... just keep on doing what we're doing, I guess?
@AlexisKing what? i thought we've been getting stupider.. as a whole for quite a long time, hmm
5:24 AM
[ SmokeDetector ] Blacklisted website: Same thing the year prior to the by know specialp on superuser.com
The Flynn effect is the substantial and long-sustained increase in both fluid and crystallized intelligence test scores measured in many parts of the world from roughly 1930 to the present day. When intelligence quotient (IQ) tests are initially standardized using a sample of test-takers, by convention the average of the test results is set to 100 and their standard deviation is set to 15 or 16 IQ points. When IQ tests are revised, they are again standardized using a new sample of test-takers, usually born more recently than the first. Again, the average result is set to 100. However, when the...
but i guess if we can include computer intelligence as part of the human collective intelligence, than we are way smarter
> He also wrote that "Test scores are certainly going up all over the world, but whether intelligence itself has risen remains controversial."
It's true. Nobody really knows.
But it's also very hard to quantify.
And it's hard to separate intelligence from knowledge.
5:31 AM
I'll look at it more optimistically now with the info you've provided.
[ SmokeDetector ] All-caps title: DASHBOARD ERROR by George on salesforce.stackexchange.com
[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword in body, blacklisted website: Meditation the meditation is really kind by Yseult Pelletier on stackoverflow.com
@SmokeDetector tpu-
I'm suck.
[ SmokeDetector ] Blacklisted website: Easy Tips To Earn Money by lishee wioz on meta.stackexchange.com
5:36 AM
ya dingus
[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword in body: Remain active and healthy throughout the day by ukeyrlsi ormsh on drupal.stackexchange.com
@SmokeDetector tpu-
@AlexisKing Hey I got 147 on free-iqtest.net so I must be smart.
5:45 AM
[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword in body: TrackR bravo Tracking Devices For Sellers Explained by sonnycody26 on meta.stackexchange.com
[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword in body, blacklisted website: Online is a fast fun and easy way to make extra money by Sara Semhar on askubuntu.com
6:09 AM
[ SmokeDetector ] Email in body: How to force users to register with only email address? by a deleted user on drupal.stackexchange.com
[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword in title: www.neugarciniacambogiasite.com/slim-bean-250/ by bomberman cotage on drupal.stackexchange.com
6:27 AM
@SmokeDetector tpu-'WHERE UserID='' OR '1'='1'"
@SmokeDetector oh bomberman...
@SmokeDetector that anonymous gravatar... slime...
The site in that undetected spam post is dermajuvenatefacts.net, strengthening the case for making facts\.(com|net|org) a blacklisted keyword, nwb. (cc @ProgramFOX @hichris123)
@SmokeDetector fpu $window.alert("Error baba daram " + dataerr);
6:38 AM
@AndrewT. Registered question as false positive, whitelisted user and added title to Bayesian doctype 'good'.
7:02 AM
@AndrewT. This answer on Android is suspicious, because the video is new and the comments under it are SEO stuff. I flagged as VLQ, since link-only.
Didn't see enough evidence that this is spam.
Let me research the case first (the video seems to be created/uploaded by the same user)
[ SmokeDetector ] Offensive body detected: Code working, just not perfect (Python) by KHMB on stackoverflow.com
I always hate those YouTube videos that drag on with crappy background music and could have just been a paragraph of text, it got the thumbs down from me...
7:19 AM
[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title: The Truth Behind Auravie Anti Aging Cream by alvin sloss on drupal.stackexchange.com
woo, a new product name
@SmokeDetector tpu-
@James Blacklisted user and registered question as true positive: added title to the Bayesian doctype 'bad'.
[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword in body: dying to possess warm and smooth skin by Duwo Motte on drupal.stackexchange.com
@SmokeDetector tpu-
@Yes I flagged it as spam anyway. Promoting own video for SEO and ad...
7:28 AM
C wrapper for social C# music visualisations that utilises the Prototype pattern
Today's xkcd comic:
@xkcdBot explain :(
how does the SmokeDetector delete questions/users btw? I don't see it having such rights
@SmokeDetector ignore
@DarkAshelin, it has an uplink to a satellite that erases the user
@PeterJ :O
In reality it relies on users flagging the posts as spam - six will delete the post and often a moderator / SE team member comes along later (or at the same time) and deletes the user
so even if we say "tpu" it does nothing to the actual post?
and it's just a coincidence that the posts usually disappear right after someone says "tpu"?
7:43 AM
Since the one who types tpu will usually late to open and flag it as spam
(unless you flag it first, then tpu it :)
[ SmokeDetector ] Blacklisted website: You yeah of course are you must by john on drupal.stackexchange.com
@DarkAshelin It's a smoke detector, not a fireman (quoting Jan Dvorak).
7:46 AM
@AndrewT. I'm confused
also slightly dizzy
Just joking. In case when Taverners/mods are very active, attempting to tpu a post first might be slower than opening & flagging the post, hence when you open the post, it's already gone.
(I'm also slightly dizzy as well)
@AndrewT. did you also wake up like this?
Just today.
7:50 AM
I was incredibely dizzy when I woke up, almost fell down when I stood up
8:02 AM
@DarkAshelin if you don't mind me asking.. what is "tpu"?
@SouravGhosh no idea, ppl are just typing it here as response to the bot
when it's spam
@SouravGhosh true positive and keep an eye on that user.
@Bart Thanks. :-)
8:09 AM
@PeterJ Whaddya mean, 'wut'? Humans...
@PeterJ I'm disappointed you didn't go for lick
ok, testing now
@SouravGhosh ... did I miss something?
8:20 AM
[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword in title: Best Anti Aging Tips to Look Young by Arney Miqu on drupal.stackexchange.com
8:30 AM
@tchrist you are welcome ... (not sure where I'm thanked for) .. maybe because I left the room?
A: Hunt down [software-hunting]

UnihedronAll the questions with that tag are closed / deleted and the tag has been removed from all the questions. The tag is now burninated!

"repeating words"?
@SmokeDetector fp- buffalo buffalo buffalo
[ SmokeDetector ] All-caps title: MASKING IN ARCMAP by kha on gis.stackexchange.com
[ SmokeDetector ] Nested quote blocks in answer: TypeError: string indices must be integers, not str // working with dict by imlyj on stackoverflow.com
[ SmokeDetector ] Blacklisted website: How to recover Windows Vista product key? by Marion Vasquez on superuser.com
[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword in title: wants an outlet for Weight Loss Tips by Wetro Moegi on drupal.stackexchange.com
[ SmokeDetector ] Repeating characters in body: Error while destroy admob view on canvas by Drake on stackoverflow.com
9:26 AM
Well, welcome to you and your entourage! :D — Neil Fein ♦ 13 hours ago
TIL we're all just @Unihedron's entourage.
life is strange
I prefer "posse".
how about "the Taverners"
9:42 AM
... and I would walk 500 miles and I would ... ah no, those were the proclaimers. Never mind.
I would spend 500 flags and I would spend 500 more
I would catch 500 bad reviewers and I would catch 500 more.
doesn't scan
9:57 AM
@JanDvorak I know, right?
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