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@Shog9 Purely out of curiosity, do you have any stats on the flow rates of questions along the edges of your triage / h&I flowchart?
yeah
Published?
no.
And now I want to publish them in the form of pipes
Aw. I'm having a serious case of data envy.
That flowchart may be your greatest achievement btw.
@JasonC Solution: give the Tavern access to internal SEDE.
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@SmokeDetector oxymoron
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A: What is your favorite aviation joke?

FarhanPilots Vs Maintenance Engineers After every flight, pilots fill out a form, called a “gripe sheet” which tells mechanics about problems with the aircraft. The mechanics correct the problems; document their repairs on the form, and then pilots review the gripe sheets before the next flight. Neve...

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wow, these are great
real fake passport = not fake fake passport. Fake fake passport = worthless piece of paper that only looks like it might convince someone.
Haha. Quality jokes from my favorite SE site.
Inb4 modcat reopens all those favorite-joke questions on SO
00:21
meow
meew
pi-KAAAA
@James impostor! or am I seeing an old avatar?
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Fun fact: Salesforce is the only SE site that has the words "Stack Exchange" in its logo.
00:23
no there is two of us
both called James
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Which typing "@James" confirms.
> P: Number 3 engine missing.
S: Engine found on right wing after brief search.
[ SmokeDetector ] Nested quote blocks in body: Python's ImportError: No module named repository by God on askubuntu.com
These are awesome.
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The chat shows both avatars in a tooltip. And of course pings both.
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00:26
Feature-request: nested quote blocks get auto-ignore, like all-caps.
Remote test
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00:33
!xkcd blame
@Doorknob It's @bjb568's fault.
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^ blame command not listed.
@Doorknob It's always bjb's fault thought
techincally its correct
@xkcdBot "suggest possibly relevant xkcd comics."
Something weird in terms of the user's reputation recalc and history is going on here:
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Q: Reputation data vs. Reputation chart mismatch in daily > 200 rep

Christian HupferMy reputation history clearly says, that I have 'earned' (well ;-)) at least 200 reputation on 9 days (see the data at the end of this post, please) However, there is a mismatch with my reputation graph chart (count the spikes: there are 10 spikes ;-)) Is there any apparent reason for this? ...

00:45
@Doorknob That's a new addition.
4 hours ago, by AstroCB
What is the plural of xkcd?
While the cause for the discrepancy has been identified, I still think it's misleading. The reputation recalc should not accommodate for accept/unaccepts.
> in good standing with more than 3,221 reputation may nominate themselves
@AstroCB xkcd is a series of comics, but it is not a noun that describes an individual comic.
@hichris123 That's what I figured.
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Q: How do I know if a boy/girl likes me?

Ashley NunnIf I am going to marry someone, I need to make sure I am doing this right. How do I know if they like me and the gifts I am giving them? (For some reason this is the most confusing part of any Harvest Moon game for me.)

00:53
It appears that the H&I queue is overflowing.
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21 hours ago, by Shog9
we raised and lowered the score threshold for posts (previously only 0-scored posts in that queue) and are allowing posts that don't actually get improved to recirculate through the queue after a while
@pizza Since skipping is such a common action, I guess that makes a big difference.
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Also, the Triage lovefest, everyone clicking SBI there.
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And disputing my Unsalvageable flags in the process. >:[
the goal is to stabilize at 200-300 tasks. Gonna keep tweaking...
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Threshold adjusting dynamically based on the size of the queue?
@bjb568 I'm surprised you haven't DDOSed it by now.
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It's an internal StackEgg.
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I'll try to help by clicking Unsalvageable many times. :P
Given all these perma-full queues, what sense does the supernova thingie still have?
01:01
@Shog9 (or someone with back-end digging capabilities): Could a TeX - LaTeX mod/know-it-all weigh in on:
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Q: Reputation data vs. Reputation chart mismatch in daily > 200 rep

Christian HupferMy reputation history clearly says, that I have 'earned' (well ;-)) at least 200 reputation on 9 days (see the data at the end of this post, please) However, there is a mismatch with my reputation graph chart (count the spikes: there are 10 spikes ;-)) Is there any apparent reason for this? ...

[ SmokeDetector ] Nested quote blocks in body: Kernel debugging - how to set breakpoint at DriverEntry? by user1680791 on reverseengineering.stackexchange.com
01:26
@hichris123 yay! I finally can know!
@AstroCB hehehe, I'm not that mean
@bjb568 you are meaner!
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in CoGro Musings, yesterday, by JNat
And I've been finding the job strangely addictive.
eats a torus
01:30
I'm strangely motivated to go write screensavers now.
I have a large truckload of homework to do.
I mean, the actual homework is less than a k, I need to generate a large truckload of res.
Put it off to the last minute :p
Need opinion: is the "OP's comment indicator" color in new beta site design too light, or it's my monitor? (ex: meta.aviation.stackexchange.com/questions/1565/…)
Too light.
Hahaha, they couldn't decide?
Looks fine here.
I got #f0f0f0 too, and I almost can't see it.
01:39
I like the second one with 0.5 opacity best.
Maybe a lil darker.
Same here:
But I can see it perfectly fine.
Thanks @pizza ..
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The importance of having a unique username...
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Actually, there are 8 SO users named pizza. :O
I wonder if @pizza takes part on cannibalism
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is only one
01:43
wonders if he can ask for account merge
apparently
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Q: New beta style is much harder on my eyes; looking for CSS overrides to fix

Monica CellioThe new beta theme has made some changes to text styling that I find much harder on my eyes. My vision isn't that great to begin with and beta sites, particularly metas, are a lot harder for me to read now. I moderate two beta sites, so access to meta is pretty important to me. (In case it mat...

> He does seem like a scummy, idiotic, self-centered psychopath with unsable emotions, an egotistical dimwit who doesn't feel comassion towards others, a crybaby who is still wetting his be, with only one friend! But he is really a good kid deep below!
O_O
image
great, someone broke twitter
^^ UNACCEPTABLE!!!
those 10 seconds could be the difference between a rep gold mine and a question ban
¬_¬
[ SmokeDetector ] Offensive answer detected: ArcGISDynamicMapServiceLayer Custom Renderer by akirti on gis.stackexchange.com
@Feeds don't use https!
@SmokeDetector ignore
01:54
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[ SmokeDetector ] All-caps title: PHP + SQL UPDATE PROBLEMA by Davi R Rossini on pt.stackoverflow.com
@SmokeDetector ignore
@James Post ignored; alerts about it will no longer be posted.
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All-caps are auto-ignored, meaning Smokey acts as if he received "ignore" command.
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"policies" as in any and all policies. Kind of like a complete users manual for Stack Exchange. — lorentzfactor 42 mins ago
[ SmokeDetector ] All-caps title: IIR AND FREQUENCY WARPING FORMULA by Shittu Olalekan on dsp.stackexchange.com
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01:57
@JasonC ^^ someone else wants complete SE documentation.
@Werner figure it out?
@pizza Oddly enough, there's only one of me.
yeah, that's what the one in here yesterday said too
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02:01
@bjb568 res ipsa?
responce
respaws?
There may be a few 5-10 second periods of #stackoverflow inaccessibility as one of our ISPs shifts traffic around 1-2 AM EDT tonight.
@Doorknob weird...
What is thing "EDT"? How does that differ from Eatth Standard Time?
@pizza I can't really tell if he's asking more about rules and etiquette, or site mechanics.
@tchrist dst
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^ that's xkcdBot's job
@Braiam why? There's tons of these around.
02:06
@tchrist "Intermittently amenable to date math."
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Oh no, technology is being replaced by humans.
Because the only thing better than one package manager is a half dozen for each distro
@Shog9 well, the one I answered before was closed and deleted
Better still is at least 5 gui front-ends for each.
02:08
Why oh why does IE 8 not support SVGs?
Then again, hopefully I'm not supporting IE 8 either...
not that I'm hung up on the answer, it was something I wiped on 1 minute of boredom
@hichris123 Mostly because Microsoft was being arrogant, I'd guess?
@hichris123 because you shouldn't use IE
@Undo WebKit supported it from ~2006, Firefox from ~2004
and seriously @Shog9, is just full of things like this stackoverflow.com/q/25325513/792066
02:09
"If we can't build the best browser... well... well... THEN YOU CAN'T HAVE SVGS, ENTERPRISE PEOPLE waaaaah"
@Braiam Yeah, but I have no clue if people are using IE 8 for this application... I should probably ask someone.
@hichris123 caniuse.com/#feat=svg It's the sole red box. It's about time to force people to upgrade. I hear IE9's pretty cutting edge.
@hichris123 have traffic logs from Apache or something? Should be enough if it's an existing app
At some point you've got to let it go, man. Let it go.
@JasonC I hear it's not
02:11
@Undo I don't. This is an open source thingy I'm working on. Which is on Ubuntu 10.04, btw. I need to poke someone to upgrade it as we're going EOL in 20 days. :/
ohhhhh
Thought you were consulting on something
@JasonC A small price to pay for perfection -- and to give us jobs for life.
@hichris123 Long time to wait for a newline.
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@JasonC But it's not available for Windows XP.
Another newline? That'll be $1.99.
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Either that or you write all your code on one line.
So much profanity in this room!
02:14
@hichris123 time to be doing images :/
@pizza Just upgrade to Vista.
My virgin ears!
@tchrist Sorry we popped your ear cherry.
... Gross. Sorry I said that.
....
walks away
So, SVGs...
... vote for me?
02:18
votes for self
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Poor xkcdBot, maintained by such a shoddy owner.
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02:21
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@Braiam We already have images... which are gifs?! weird.
@AndrewT. If you don't add parameters, there shouldn't be a space on the end.
02:28
@hichris123 I meant disk images... but whatever
!xkcd blame
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@tchrist We're going to upgrade to 12.04, likely. So we still won't be on the latest version... sigh
^ borked
@Braiam oh. :P
02:28
@Undo I was typing something...
@hichris123 get cheff!
lol
also, maybe post it as multiline message instead of be rate-limited.
@Braiam Everytime I ssh into the test server, I get:
New release 'precise' available.
Run 'do-release-upgrade' to upgrade to it.
@AndrewT. I couldn't figure out how to do that.
02:29
@Braiam looks I'm not a sysadmin, though. :/
I tried HTML breaks, escaped newlines, and escaped newline characters.
@hichris123 I wouldn't do a live upgrade... unless is a Stack Exchange server...
hmm, I see
@AstroCB you know that pilling up dust you can make a mountain
@Braiam My username isn't in the sudo-ers file, so it doesn't matter anyway. :P
02:31
@Braiam I don't know – dust pills don't sound very useful.
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A mountain of them sounds even less useful
@AstroCB meh
Oooh new ads
@Undo I've been seeing those for a week or two.
Huh, this is the first one I've seen
02:34
Mar 24 at 23:28, by AstroCB
user image
That one was odd, because I haven't answered a Java question in 8 months.
I've seen the iOS ones everywhere, though.
I guess it's shown based on question tag, not your favorite/answer tag.
I wish adblock was smart enough to catch screenshots of ads in chat.
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make yer own skript
New feature on AdBlock: Image recognition (when it's ready)
lel, antwerp
02:41
Client just called me, panicking, because he installed a new machine at a site and Windows said "You need to activate me. Activate?" and he didn't know what to do. All I said was "Well it says you need to activate it, so activate it, and follow the instructions on the screen," and that was somehow good enough.
!find antwerp
Like, did it just not occur to you to do what your computer just told you to do?
> If you don't vote for me, vote for meagar, Martijn Pieters, and Raghav Sood! Undo, too!
That's gonna be really hard :P
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Q: Do we need a [swift-1.2] tag?

AstroCBToday, Apple officially released Xcode 6.3 after exactly two months of beta testing. With it comes Swift 1.2, a minor update to the language, which includes bug fixes, some compiler improvements, and minor syntax and behavior changes. These changes, while relatively minor for a new language, hav...

02:42
@Undo I know. I thought I'd give 4 options, lol.
Pick 3.
@AstroCB [swift1.2] has already been synonomized into [swift]
@JasonC :)
@Undo Hmm...
There's no Android-2.x, 3.x, 4.x, 5.x, 6.x, either
@Undo Fixed.
@AndrewT. No, but Android isn't a language.
02:45
but the API differs
We don't have [objective-c-2.0] either
I see your point, but neither of those are new, and they don't change dramatically.
It's my opinion that the '1.2' designation is more for marketing than anything else, but we'll let meta decide :)
@AndrewT. What do you mean?
With the good question to answer query builder, is there any reason why we can't add a metric on question length? For example, in the tags I like to frequent, the questions that are easier to answer are generally longer, because it means that OP has posted the configuration needed to debug what is going wrong.
02:48
BTW, is it <1m/s, 2m/s> or <1, 2>m/s?
ENOSENSE
@Undo Yes, but there are actual syntax changes here, which isn't too common.
@bjb568 for velocity vectors?
yea
The first looks better to my eyes
02:51
The second just looks weird
good
that's what I did on the ap practice test
Tied with astro on rep
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What happens then?
Will it be undefined behavior?
Well really you're down about 150 reputation...
Well, the first person just got kicked, so this is definitely real now.
Let me just give a 250 rep bounty to Wobbuffet... xD
02:58
@Qantas94Heavy not qualified
sry
@Undo Still at -1; only 9 views. I guess people don't really care that much...
@Qantas94Heavy I'd love that
@bjb568 I almost want to leave it that way just to see what happens.
almost
upvotes one of you, downvotes the other
03:00
besides, some douche is going to upvote my very helpful answers
Ha, see.
lol, I didn't touch anything
@Qantas94Heavy Give it to Ty and see if he pops back onto the nomination page.
Be warned, guys
I am the dark horse
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03:01
@SmokeDetector delete
@hichris123 ugh, I blame myself for searching those on MSO.
In fact, exists on SO, sorry @AstroCB
working bibliography sheet asks for copyright date
checks for last modified header
i randomly got +20 rep just now
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hooray, apache
@AndrewT. I don't know at this point.
03:02
@TheWobbuffet "randomly"
Can't ping Brad Larson from here to see what he was thinking when he synonymized...
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rate limiting! \o/
The rate limiting is stricter in here than in the Botlings room.
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!xkcd find math
03:05
@pizza Unimplemented.
heh... don't worry about my non-conspicuous increasing amount of rep, guys, i'll still be way under you guys
!xkcd 303
That was just a random number; I wasn't expecting a classic.
!xkcd last
03:10
Probably the most linked-to XKCD comic there is :p
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reopened
@pizza What was the OT reason for its closure?
@AstroCB they are all classics!
@bjb568 Classic of the classics.
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03:14
@AstroCB Pertains to one site. Then Braiam did s/Overflow/Exchange
Add a dictionary of true classics and a classic command to get a random one from the list.
> In general, you should strongly avoid creating version tags.

> I would only use version tags when the question content is irrevocably tied to a specific version of something and can never be relevant to earlier versions or later versions.
I always said the html5 tag didn't make sense.
@Braiam I think the relevant part to this question would be "The only questions that should use the c#-4.0 tag, in my opinion, are those questions which are specifically asking for detail about features that were added in 4.0." These aren't just little API diffs; they're actual syntax changes. — AstroCB 3 mins ago
@AstroCB transitions are a very good moment to ask self answered questions ;)
did bunch of history stuff many boring
now to teh calcz!
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03:33
When the consensus in Triage is Unsalvageable, there should be a screen inviting the last reviewer to downvote.
and let Community dv too
and don't say it's not unsalvageable if it's 2 uns, 3 ok
@pizza that has the problem of downvoting spam and offensive that should just get flagged
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My current pet peeve is 2 uns, 3 sbi. The question gets downvoted and deleted, but I end up with a disputed flag. :(
My favourite is when there's 2 of each, then someone comes along with a "Should be improved"
@pizza Flags go to Triage?
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03:37
@AstroCB Picking Unsalvageable in Triage raises a flag (even if you're above 3K). If the winning decision is not Unsalvageable, those flags are instantly disputed.
@pizza Oh; that's happened to me a bunch of times.
@pizza: even if above 3k? I haven't seen that.
@Qantas94Heavy If you choose a non-close reason, I assume.
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That was my understanding, but I may be wrong. Triage is not Close queue...
If you're above 3k, the "it should be closed" option redirects to close votes and doesn't generate a flag.
03:44
Why is D correct?
I sketched an antiderivative on each.
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@Qantas94Heavy But this is weird if the SBI option wins. Now the question goes to H&I and... also to Close queue, because there is a Close Vote?
EVT doesn't apply because open interval…
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@bjb568 Sideways, but not blurry enough.
Ah, the ol' rotated image returns.
Not enough looseleaf with irrelevant text in the framing either
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03:46
@bjb568 Don't bother sketching antiderivative. Relative maximum occurs when the derivative goes from being positive to being negative.
Does the end of an open interval not count as a relative maximum, even if it's the greatest value?
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Maximum: going up up up then down down down.
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@JasonC Open means endpoints not included.
wait, doesn't that mean A tho?
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03:48
Yes, A is correct.
Yay, ok
Oh
If it was a closed interval could you call the end the maximum? Or does it still need to be an actual peak?
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You would call an end a maximum, yes.
I can seek conform in that the teacher got the problem wrong.
And he checks his work.
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Then on a closed interval, every (continuous) function has a maximum somewhere, possibly at an end. "Extreme Value theorem"
03:50
In calculus, the extreme value theorem states that if a real-valued function f is continuous in the closed and bounded interval [a,b], then f must attain a maximum and a minimum, each at least once. That is, there exist numbers c and d in [a,b] such that: A related theorem is the boundedness theorem which states that a continuous function f in the closed interval [a,b] is bounded on that interval. That is, there exist real numbers m and M such that: The extreme value theorem enriches the boundedness theorem by saying that not only is the function bounded, but it also attains its least upper bound...
people like values.
Lotsa VTs.
There's like 10 kinds of MVT
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Calculus is a study of functions... functions have values... so there are theorems about those.
in Biology on The Stack Exchange Network Chat, yesterday, by Faheem Mitha
I talked to some people in Health SE chat. They thought googling stuff was the stuff of a good answer. Eek. Their attitude to health professionals was - we don't need no steekin professionals, we got it covered.
:eek:
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Jan 27 '14 at 0:50, by Rebecca Chernoff
@Undo if you have the data dump, you know the post type, right? so you know whether to use q or a in your url.
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03:55
^ last chat message by Rebecca Chernoff. :sniff:
@pizza that you know of...
[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword in body, blacklisted website: Uplift of dropping cheeks by Brewxzpqz on drupal.stackexchange.com
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@Braiam The activity page includes restricted rooms, too.
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Peter Grace and Nick Craver did not post 100K messages in the Tavern, obviously.
@Braiam Not unexpected.
03:57
@pizza yeah, I know
but what if.... she has another account :O
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If the last message is in a private room, there is no link to the message.
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@Braiam Who do you think that is? :_/
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in Let's get philosophical, Apr 21 '14 at 17:55, by Jeff Atwood
https://meta.discourse.org/t/make-dates-more-visible-on-old-topics/14926/3?u=cod‌​inghorror
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^ Atwood's last message in this chat

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