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tchrist

00:02

Ewe! Who let the cat out of the bag?

Braiam

@hichris123 smokey doesn't know

and apparently not only programmers have problems naming stuff...

bjb568

I've found testing real md is helpful for my lil MD-HTML

eg this ->

Obviously that <mark> styling is too obnoxious.

Undo

00:19

delv-plz meta.stackexchange.com/questions/252845/…

bjb568

1

Q: to be, or not to be?

Learning is a present form and "to be" a future form. But "being" is a present form. Which is correct in the following sentence? I am learning ___ alpha. Where ___ is 1) to be or 2) being

word-usage

somebody deal with it

how is it hot ugh

tchrist

@bjb568 Characterize deal.

bjb568

no

I might explain, or maybe even elaborate tho.

I could clarify also.

tchrist

@bjb568 ♬ “Sunday, sweet Sunday, with nothing to do. . . .” ♬

bjb568

deal = edit or nuke

tchrist

00:23

@bjb568 I would be happy to approve your edit suggestion.

Braiam

I see what you did there...

¬_¬

Undo

Figure out what badges you're missing for the 'candidate score'

^ SEDE query

bjb568

@tchrist ell.stackexchange.com/review/suggested-edits/20762 probably didn't do it right, but here

tchrist

@bjb568 Ite missa est.

bjb568

wot

Undo

00:29

@bjb568 Latin

missa == sent

est == [he,she,it] is

bjb568

JUST TRANSLATE THE WHOLE THING

Undo

It is sent

You had 2/3 of the words :P

I think it's missing some macrons, Google Translate flatly refuses to touch it

Tim Stone

@hichris123 mmm maybe, I couldn't track down the root cause. There was a JS leak of some sort but it seemed rather minor so I suspect the real problem was in the animated canvas.

tchrist

Scram, it’s done.

bjb568

> Constituent

I should have it.

The system is lying.

Undo

00:33

it's not on stackoverflow.com/users/2371861/…

Sounds like either (1) you're lying, or (2) you've been shortchanged a badge

Or (3) you forgot you didn't vote last election

bjb568

I most certainly did.

WTH I'VE BEEN CHEATED!

My votes were on stackoverflow.com/election/5 a couple days after the election. They're gone.

tchrist

@bjb568 Just think: only 449 edits to go before self-approval.

bjb568

1k rep edit limit

tchrist

Think harder.

It’s in superannuated beta.

bjb568

Oh

OH NOES MY VOTES MUST HAVE DISAPPEARED WITH ACCOUNT MERGE D:

pokes @annalear

ɥʇǝS

00:49

I have intel that the gif'ing stopped.

Undo

Now you've poked the calculus kitten

Duck and cover

bjb568

Duck? @inf? :p

ɥʇǝS

I'm here to start the @MartijnPieters for SO mod campaign :D

9

hey you were supposed to star my message. :P

user202362

Negative, coz he downvoted me. I forget but I don't forgive :p

Undo

@ɥʇǝS I can get behind that :P

ɥʇǝS

00:53

Maybe I should make it more clear? (Why'd you delete yours? I didn't really care..)

user259867

-1 his time is better spent not digging through silly flags.

Undo

We're terrible at this campaigning thing

ɥʇǝS

too late. I edited the wrong message.

@Undo IKR >.<

bjb568

Star it, come on!

Doorknob

@ɥʇǝS yes! stars

ɥʇǝS

00:54

pin @Inf? chat.meta.stackexchange.com/transcript/message/3256625#3256625 please? begs

Undo

"5 minutes in to the campaign, and it has already collapsed into several factions, all supporting starring different messages using different protocols"

bjb568

meh nobody like kittehz :(

Doorknob

Wait, what? Has the 5-minute edit grace period been removed?

ɥʇǝS

I believe so.. At least I've seen other people mention it.

Alexis King

@Doorknob Sort of. If someone comments, the grace period ends.

Undo

00:56

It's been scaled back

it's less graceful

3

Doorknob

Ahhhh since when has this been a thing? Is it only on SO?

@Undo ha, ha :P

bjb568

nuu

Alexis King

@Undo "The cats' rights faction, led by @bjb, did not last very long."

bjb568

D:

Doorknob

oh wow, over a week ago

Jason C

00:58

AHEM

3 hours ago, by Jason C

^^^ I demand to know who's responsible for this.

ɥʇǝS

When was this deleted @Doorknob? stackoverflow.com/questions/21315280/…

Undo

@ɥʇǝS Jan 24

Jason C

@Shog9 Was that you?

Undo

3:36

Doorknob

> deleted by Community♦ Jan 24 at 3:36

ɥʇǝS

00:59

huh

still top search result in one of my searches.

That's bing for you I guess.

bjb568

@JasonC shog

Doorknob

@JasonC chat.meta.stackexchange.com/messages/3256454/history

why is everyone faster than me >_<

ɥʇǝS

@JasonC You've been shogged ;)

bjb568

I didn't even look at the history.

Jason C

It's strangely hypnotic.

bjb568

01:00

That gif is so shog.

tchrist

@ɥʇǝS 2015-01-24 03:36:27Z

Doorknob

cv-plz ugh stackoverflow.com/q/29464024/1223693

Undo

in Low Quality Posts HQ, 39 secs ago, by Zephyr

Close Vote Request for http://stackoverflow.com/q/29464024/1223693 by Doorknob from Tavern on the Meta Reason: ugh

6

lol

Doorknob

cv-plz typo stackoverflow.com/q/29464035/1223693

@Undo :D

Jason C

Some lady with six kids drove me into the wall when I was walking down the sidewalk and told me to watch where I was going. "If you don't like how crowded the city is, why the hell'd you have six kids?" was not the appropriate response. Oops.

Undo

01:04

How... how did she drive you into a wall?

Sounds like assault

Doorknob

A wall...

Jason C

I was walking on the building side and she was walking on the street side, and I moved over but they continued spreading out.

Undo

@Doorknob Errr what? :P

Jason C

She was just waddling along, oblivious, I did that back against the wall, hands up, make yourself skinny thing.

Doorknob

@Undo I was just picturing some random person ramming into me and then suddenly falling into a deep water-filled hole. :P

Jason C

01:06

Haha

Doorknob

Erm, me falling into the hole, that is. Although the other way of parsing that sentence is interesting as well.

Jason C

My "haha" was actually directed at both options simultaneously.

Undo

I like them falling into a hole better

ɥʇǝS

"Well this got dirty fast."

hichris123

@Undo I just gotta:

Duck And Cover (1951) Bert The Turtle Civil Defense Film

►

Jason C

01:09

I kind of want to nominate myself for moderator just to laugh at my fail.

tchrist

@Doorknob Thank you.

Jason C

And to see Shog post a "-1" comment on the nomination.

2

AstroCB

@bjb568 should be a mod, but I don't know if he can handle moderating SO, maintaining Stack Exchange's greatest competitor, and being the top English student in the country.

4

bjb568

The… top?

I may halve my chatting here.

Jason C

@hichris123 youtube.com/watch?v=SkYl_AH-qyk Oh man.

You know, I would genuinely support @bjb's mod nomination if he actually used more jQuery.

bjb568

01:16

O_o

tchrist

@bjb568 Careful you don’t halve the bottom half by accident.

AstroCB

@JasonC $("#bjb568").addClass("♦");

Jason C

@tchrist Er ... that's what she said?

tchrist

@JasonC No, that would be the back half.

Jason C

14 mins ago, by ɥʇǝS

"Well this got dirty fast."

tchrist

01:22

A person comprises six halves: top, bottom, front, back, left, right.

Undo

Therefore, every person is actually three people

Tavern Math!

Jason C

Don't forget the inner and outer half.

AstroCB

Id, ego and super-ego

Id, ego, and super-ego are the three parts of the psychic apparatus defined in Sigmund Freud's structural model of the psyche; they are the three theoretical constructs in terms of whose activity and interaction our mental life is described. According to this model of the psyche, the id is the set of uncoordinated instinctual trends; the super-ego plays the critical and moralising role; and the ego is the organized, realistic part that mediates between the desires of the id and the super-ego. The super-ego can stop one from doing certain things that one's id may want to do. Although the model is...

bjb568

and the concave and convex half?

tchrist

To halve and halve not.

Jason C

01:23

Well, by "inner" and "outer" half, I mean the chewy and crunchy half.

tchrist

All unhalved humans are topologically equivalent to doughnuts.

bjb568

Changing "deviant" behavior -- 50s-60s

►

Doorknob

> I have no idea what he meant by "AH"; perhaps he was sighing or had a sudden moment of insight or fell asleep on his keyboard mid-comment? —shog

I have no idea why but this is one of the funniest things I've read all day :D

hichris123

@AstroCB There are feeds, yanno.

Jason C

@tchrist That claim is a peeve of mine. People are at least genus 6 surfaces.

Roombatron5000

01:30

@Doorknob that's definitely a$$h0l3

Braiam

@Roombatron5000 not if you are reading asian literature...

AstroCB

@hichris123 What?

Braiam

they mastered the art of sighing

Roombatron5000

seems like the tavern likes @bjb more than @anim , since @bjb's pin got more stars than @anims

bjb568

:D

tchrist

01:35

@Roombatron5000 Au contraire: there are simply more people enthusiastic about kicking the cat than who want to kick the animal.

Doorknob

@bjb568 I don't think the fact that people want to be able to kick you is a good thing...

tchrist

jinx

Doorknob

:P

bjb568

@Doorknob what? nohhhhh…

Martijn Pieters

Note to self: if I ever were to stand for a mod election, find someone with a longer attention span than @ɥʇǝS.

Doorknob

01:40

@MartijnPieters How about m- oh look a shiny thing!

Undo

Speech! A speech!

Can't have a campaign without a speech

tchrist

AS_PEACH

Doorknob

ASP_EACH

Martijn Pieters

So who'll be my speech writer then?

tchrist

@Doorknob CAVEAT_CLEOPATRA

Martijn Pieters

01:42

I haven't even got a campaign manager yet.

Undo

We can make a github repo for the speech

You do realize you don't need a campaign, SO would elect you like that if they had a chance

tchrist

What if the first bite doesn’t take?

AstroCB

Braiam

@AstroCB O_O

user259867

But :D doesn't mean "I'm confused".

Martijn Pieters

01:45

At any rate, I'll need more sleep than I am going to get poking my nose into random mentions. Night night, you 'orrible lot!

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AstroCB

@pizza Apparently it does for @bjb.

tchrist

> With thy sharp teeth this knot intrinsicate
Of life at once untie: poor venomous fool
Be angry, and dispatch.

Doorknob

watches as @MartijnPieters enters room, leaves, and then enters again

AstroCB

Why do suggested edit reviews on Meta.SE take so long?

Roombatron5000

@AstroCB b.c i skip em

tchrist

01:47

Unarsible?

bjb568

nobody reviews

user259867

To think of all the time that was spent thinking and arguing over what comments are not constructive vs too chatty...

Undo

Went through 'em

AstroCB

@Undo Much appreciated.

Doorknob

So did I

apparently @Astro is rep-farming for xkcdBot :P

tchrist

01:52

There was one today suggesting an edit to a Shog post.

Looked like a trap to me. :)

Braiam

the trap is making it looks like a trap, so you don't see the other trap next ahead

hichris123

@AstroCB xkcd bot -> RSS feed for XKCD

tchrist

@AstroCB Because you keep making more!

AstroCB

@Doorknob Just a bit.

4 hours ago, by AstroCB

@xkcdBot find Random Number

hichris123

ah.

AstroCB

01:59

This is a test.

Roombatron5000

This is not a test.

Braiam

no is not

dammit

hichris123

I'm currently experiencing my daily episode of: "Where's that cord?"

Doorknob

This may or may not be a test.

Braiam

again!!

I suck at this... :/

takes me 8 full seconds to write "I suck at this... :/"????

blames lagging

AstroCB

02:02

Interesting...

hichris123

Yes, quite interesting...

Doorknob

Affirmative, rather intriguing...

ɥʇǝS

@MartijnPieters :(

Braiam

YOU ALL ARE BULLING ME!! cries

ɥʇǝS

Well I'll be happy with whoever you pick as long as you run :P

Braiam

02:04

...

ɥʇǝS

@Braiam wrong?

AstroCB

I probably should have just asked from write access from @Inf.

Braiam

@AstroCB not going to work

AstroCB

@Braiam I could describe xkcdBot as a bot whose sole purpose is to kick bjb.

Undo

@AstroCB Room owners can't override the chat rep requirements

user259867

02:09

Suspended users with Yearling badge: there are 33 of them on Stack Overflow.

user259867

vs 13 on Mathematics, not bad.

Andrew T.

@AstroCB but that's a false advertisement!

Braiam

@AndrewT. the best kind of advertisement, right?

AstroCB

Undo

!!/so2015

SmokeDetector

02:14

@Undo Yay for the 2015 Stack Overflow Moderator Election! Nominations start in 0 days, 17 hours, 45 minutes and 48 seconds.

Andrew T.

!!/hats

SmokeDetector

@AndrewT. WINTERBASH IS OVER! :(

Doorknob

!!/lick

SmokeDetector

@Doorknob licks ice cream cone

tchrist

@pizza I like adding the CreationDate.

hichris123

02:14

cv-plz no code stackoverflow.com/questions/29463935/…

bjb568

!!/lick me

SmokeDetector

@bjb568 licks ice cream cone

bjb568

just as good!

user259867

@tchrist Will do.

Doorknob

@bjb confirmed ice cream cone

tchrist

02:15

@pizza Already did. :)

@bjb568 No kiddielicking in this chat.

@pizza data.stackexchange.com/stackoverflow/query/296674/…

user259867

Yes, but you created 3 different versions of the query. >:/ Much clutter

tchrist

Sorry.

Was just playin.

user259867

SEDE really needs some garbage collector. It's probably on some to-do list.

tchrist

The Math vs SO stats says a great deal, don’t you think?

Math is disproportionately high.

user259867

Yeah, percentage wise Math is way ahead.

tchrist

02:19

Why are you looking for the Yearling badge instead of comparing for creation dates older than a year ago?

user259867

English has only two, and one of them is network-wide.

tchrist

Yes, I know.

I knew of both those users. In one case, I know why.

hichris123

@pizza @TimStone probably has it on his todo list.

user259867

@tchrist Because I want to differentiate between 1 rep users and suspended users.

tchrist

Makes sense.

user259867

02:20

@SmokeDetector fp

SmokeDetector

@pizza Registered question as false positive and added title to Bayesian doctype 'good'.

tchrist

Smokey’s blown his stack.

hichris123

02:30

I VTC a question as a dupe, and the OP used their new binding dupe vote. :D

AstroCB

silently encourages 2k+ users on Meta.SE to review edits

user259867

robo-approves

AstroCB

@tchrist It got rejected, but I thought it was reasonable, so I re-suggested (one of the rejectors rejected all of mine as too minor – probably didn't like the "Bot" part) and Shog Reject-and-Edited.

user259867

Sometimes I see the link "rejoin favorite rooms" in the sidebar, sometimes not. Is this behavior documented?

hichris123

spammer? stackoverflow.com/users/4751875/suleyman-unlu?tab=activity

user259867

02:39

Probably not. Was looking for a similar thing, saw the questions, then shared his search result.

hichris123

dv-plz stackoverflow.com/a/3224913/2581872

dead link

user259867

tl;dr agf

user259867

But the questions should be closed and deleted.

hichris123

@pizza let's do it.

user259867

Well, I closeflagged which doesn't help much. Downvoted one of them, too.

hichris123

02:41

cv-plz stackoverflow.com/questions/16133045/…

cv-plz stackoverflow.com/questions/5541170/…

cv-plz stackoverflow.com/questions/29463260/…

user259867

@pizza Yes, it is

AstroCB

status-closed

hichris123

More poking power needed.

@Uni?

Jason C

cv-plz stackoverflow.com/questions/4024271/… opinion-based; doesn't really need to go away, but doesn't need more answers either

AstroCB

02:56

is still waiting for bot edits to be approved

Jason C

cv-plz stackoverflow.com/questions/568929/…

user259867

Gamification is approaching 100% commitment

Jason C

@pizza I never would have though that would receive so much support. I wonder if people can keep thinking of enough new questions continuously to keep it alive.

user259867

My guess is no: it will fizzle out in private beta. But I thought the same about Woodworking too, and was proved wrong.

Jason C

Plenty of things to throw close votes at: stackoverflow.com/questions/tagged/coding-style - Lots of mis-tags, too.

user259867

03:05

I can hide visited links completely (for a reason), but I suppose there is no reasonable way to remove them from DOM completely...

user259867

JS can't tell what's visited and what's not. :/

Jason C

And this mind boggling combo of performance coding-style... there's got to be some gems in there.

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector ] Repeating characters in answer: Password protect a multiplayer game? by Dddk on gaming.stackexchange.com

tchrist

@AstroCB Why don’t you please explain why you are having a bot edit things?

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector ] Offensive body detected: What if a non devil fuit user ate an inherently powerful devil fruit? by Hellion Cazzy on anime.stackexchange.com

AstroCB

03:17

@tchrist It needs 20 rep for chat participation.

tchrist

@AstroCB Oh ok. Done.

AstroCB

@tchrist Thanks.

user259867

@SmokeDetector ignore

SmokeDetector

@pizza Post ignored; alerts about it will no longer be posted.

AstroCB

@tchrist This is the last one.

That'll do it.

tchrist

03:19

Shoot, hit the wrong button. Simple approve instead of approve and edit.

It saves on reviewers. :)

user259867

Would be far easier to answer a support question, probably...

tchrist

Does a girl keep an air of mystery about her, or about herself?

user259867

About herself.

Jason C

@tchrist Yes.

user259867

So, the profile text is wrong. And The site should not make speculative statements about its users anyway.

tchrist

03:23

s/air of mystery about them\K(?=\.)/self/

Infinite Recursion

@ɥʇǝS Done :)

bjb568

0

Q: Readability (All Languages)

The common habit I see most developers use when crafting new code is how I place the brackets in the following C function: int Fibonacci(int n){ <- instead of the bracket here.. //code... } However, when crafting large program that require heavy use of brackets, wouldn't it be easier to r...

performance coding-style brackets readability

o_o

tchrist

Nutjob.

“Fix” the brace and the performance goes Vroom vroom vroom!

“Save much time”

Weird: double post.

xkcdBot

I am alive.

3

AstroCB

^

tchrist

03:35

Also, I’m pretty sure that s/\{\n/\n{/ does not change the amount of white space.

It doesn’t even change the number of characters.

user259867

@xkcdBot What are your superpowers?

tchrist

Expanding https oneboxen.

xkcdBot

@pizza I am still in development, but I project that I will be able to search xkcd posts and display relevant oneboxed cartoons at your command.

Andrew T.

@xkcdBot ~~kicked~~. welcoming our newest bot to make this room lives up its name.

user259867

Hmm. I imagine you'd be posting xkcd on your own, when the content of someone's message has enough overlap with the comic description.

xkcdBot

03:40

@AndrewT. I find this suggestion mildly irritating.

@pizza This is a possibility. Added to feature list.

Andrew T.

No daily xkcd feed? (not that I endorse, but just want to open a discussion)

ɥʇǝS

@InfiniteRecursion yay thanks!

huh, looks like my Tavern tab got closed for some reason..

xkcdBot

@AndrewT. Added to feature list.

Jan Dvorak

@xkcdBot no alt text?

xkcdBot

@JanDvorak xkcd.com/1085

Braiam

03:52

@xkcdBot no http?

xkcdBot

is wondering how xkcd oneboxing works

Andrew T.

@xkcdBot xkcd.com/1085 (don't use https)

user259867

@xkcdBot server-side, using xkcd API.

user259867

(If it can be called API; it looks just like a link to a .json file. xkcd.com/about)

xkcdBot

Fixed.

If you read all vaguebooking/vaguetweeting with the assumption that they're saying everything they can without revealing classified military information, the internet gets way more exciting.

has gained a sense of self

3

user259867

03:56

SPAM askubuntu.com/questions/605812/…

bjb568

Will bother to get homework done. At last minute.

xkcdBot

And what about all the people who won't be able to join the community because they're terrible at making helpful and constructive co-- ... oh.

I seem to have conquerered the star wall for the first time. I am pleased, but this shall not be the last.

Jan Dvorak

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