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00:11

[ SmokeDetector ] All-caps title: I NEED HELP PLEASE by N-haulic on gaming.stackexchange.com

Braiam

Everyday people don't tape cookie sheets to their feet to go out and get tacos in a blizzard. — GnomeSlice 3 hours ago

#lifehacks

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector ] Repeating characters in body: Why I can't insert data in a model from a custom controller? by user3754535 on stackoverflow.com

Hobo Sapiens

00:32

cv-pls stackoverflow.com/q/26413731/1864610 - Q about some transient problem on an Apples site.

bluet

@Undo that was a thing? that would of been a nice site to ~~troll~~ participate in

hichris123

00:50

@bluet yup, real thing.

Relationships and Dating

General discussion for relationships.stackexchange.com

Andrew T.

@SmokeDetector ignore

SmokeDetector

@AndrewT. Post ignored; alerts about it will not longer be posted.

hichris123

@SmokeDetector ... wasn't that already ignored? chat.stackexchange.com/transcript/message/19543023#19543023

Andrew T.

I asked myself too, borked?

hichris123

Ugh, I'll take a look.

Actually, I'm going to do homework.

Then take a look.

Andrew T.

00:58

Take your time, it's not that critical :)

hichris123

I'm creating a test case, then homework.

:P

bluet

wow, 100+ lqp reviews stackoverflow.com/review

hichris123

Huh, weird.

(Smokey I mean)

Andrew T.

wow, 500+ first-post reviews android.stackexchange.com/review (not surprised anymore)

Frank

Uh, what does 'a couple days' mean?

Braiam

01:05

@AndrewT. there was 1k constantly on AU

for several days

hichris123

@Frank ... ?

Braiam

@Frank 6 to 8

Frank

@hichris123 like, a number

@Braiam I always thought 2-3...

huh.

hichris123

Couple is usually 2.

But 6-8 <units> is better.

user259867

If things are too quiet, try asking a couple of friends whether "a couple" should always mean "two". As with the question of how many spaces should go after a period, it can turn acrimonious surprisingly fast unless all three of them agree.

4

Frank

01:07

SE emailed me on the 7th and said they'd post their reply in GL meta in a couple days. Still waiting...

bluet

@AndrewT. but SO has standards!

Frank

Of course, they are busy and slow no matter what, but just curious

Braiam

> Four days (valve) Two months and six days (actual)

hichris123

@Frank Ooh nice. That probably means they're having a hard time reaching someone.

Braiam

just divide that ^

Andrew T.

01:08

Valve time, lol

user259867

Still no mods on LH. Still no launch of Engineering (reached full commitment two weeks ago). SE is slow.

Braiam

@Fundamental stackexchange.com/work-here

hichris123

lol

Okay, actually doing homework now.

Braiam

they haven't found a sp/en CM :/

user259867

@Braiam So, have you applied? For my native language a CM already hired, so I'm out...

user259867

01:11

user259867

> I want to work in People

user259867

Is SE hiring surgeons?

5

Braiam

cooks?

> Talent Sourcer

ohhh! hunters

bluet

@Fundamental how else do you think the heads get unattached?

3

Louis

guillotine

Braiam

01:17

all misteries surrounding Shog have been solved

Shog9

Mr. Mister

Mr. Mister was an American pop rock band most popular in the 1980s. The band's name came from an inside joke about a Weather Report album called Mr. Gone where they referred to each other as "Mister This" or "Mister That", and eventually selected "Mr. Mister." Mr. Mister may be considered as representative of the melodic sound of 1980s pop rock. The band consisted of Richard Page on lead vocals and bass guitar, Steve George on keyboards/backing vocals, Pat Mastelotto on acoustic and electronic drums/percussion and Steve Farris on guitars/backing vocals. Mr. Mister was the successor to the band...

@Braiam that's a typo. Should be "Talent Sorcerer"

hichris123

@Fundamental jp? pt? or russian?

Shog9

English

user259867

@hichris123 ru

hichris123

Nope. Unless he was lying to me about the non-native part...

@Fundamental Ooh, cool.

user259867

01:27

Additional question pool for big sites sounds ridiculous, but on medium-size sites like Math one could probably do something like that. Namely, have two versions of the "active" front page, and show them randomly. Possible benefit: reduces overexposure of unusually active questions, spreads attention around more evenly.

Braiam

@Shog9 fills a bug ticket

@Fundamental yeah, markdown fail

user259867

SPAM webmasters.stackexchange.com/questions/76098/…

Andrew T.

Honestly, I never use any SE front page...

user259867

First spam found with my own filter. :-D

bluet

100% accuracy

hichris123

01:33

@Fundamental What was the title?

user259867

@hichris123 Sorry about suggesting buggy regex for Smokey, it should have been `/fifa.*coins?/

user259867

I forgot about plural form.

user259867

> adhere to up to Fifa 15 Coins

user259867

I kept the fixed up version for myself. :)

hichris123

Thanks. :P

!!/rev

SmokeDetector

01:35

@hichris123 fc3365e (hichris1234: Fix fifa regex)

hichris123

^ there

user259867

Never accept regexes from strangers, parents should be teaching their kids.

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword in title: Join Fifapal Auction Of FUT 15 Coins with only $0.1 Starting Price by ting wang on gaming.stackexchange.com

user259867

@SmokeDetector tpu

SmokeDetector

@Fundamental Registered as true positive: added title to Bayesian doctype 'bad' and blacklisted user.

user259867

01:38

Just in time fix. :)

hichris123

:D

Frank

@Fundamental well lifehacks is still having some issues

Anna Lear

@Fundamental Appointing mods is a bit more than rubber-stamping a handful of folks who volunteered. We're working on it.

Shog9

Getting sheep entrails this time of year is such a pain

Frank

@Shog9 gross

user259867

01:48

I would rubber-stamp @Frank any day.

Shog9

Haruspex

In the religion of Ancient Rome, a haruspex (plural haruspices) was a person trained to practice a form of divination called haruspicy (haruspicina) the inspection of the entrails (exta), hence also extispicy (extispicium) of sacrificed animals, especially the livers of sacrificed sheep and poultry. The reading of omens specifically from the liver is also known by the Greek term hepatoscopy (also hepatomancy). The Roman concept is directly derived from Etruscan religion, as one of the three branches of the disciplina Etrusca. Haruspicy as practiced by the Romans and Etruscans has direct precedents...

Braiam

in The Town Hall on The Stack Exchange Network Chat, Jul 29 '14 at 23:39, by Pops

@AnnonomusPenguin "nominate"? I was just going to open up the users page and throw darts at my laptop screen. Everyone here wants to be a mod, no?

hichris123

@Fundamental Stamping a tree? :O

Braiam

that's not what I heard >:(

Shog9

@Braiam his dart board is also made of sheep entrails

with wound entrail darts

Braiam

01:49

:O

Louis

Hook a polygraph to a plant. Works just as well.

bjb568

hallo

Shog9

and shiny Mylar flights

Anna Lear

@Braiam Yeah, and then we have to requisition a new laptop, IT has to get involved... it's a mess.

Frank

@bjb568 o/

bjb568

01:51

o/

hichris123

Where has @bjb568 been?

bjb568

sleep, then homework

I need to get around to doing calc hw sometime…

Frank

@bjb568 so cats don't do homework...

bjb568

They are when forced

gtg do moar things now! yay

Mooseman

That new Windows install smell... http://localhost/iis-85.png

hichris123

01:54

@Mooseman ... what's iis-85? Some IIS image?

Mooseman

@hichris123 The IIS 8.5 comes with Win8.1. That's just the image on the default localhost page.

hichris123

Ah.

Braiam

why anyone would need a webserver in a home desktop?

hichris123

Running Technical Preview currently.

Anna Lear

@Braiam 'MURICA

or something

Braiam

01:55

it's definitivelly something

Mooseman

I'm running TP in vmware. Just one week until beta Win10!

hichris123

@Mooseman :D

Louis

I run a few servers on this laptop, for testing purposes.

hichris123

I haven't used IIS before, but I run Apache sometimes for testing & I have a home-server.

Mooseman

Now to replace the default hosts file... (I can make my own google.com :p)

hichris123

02:03

[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword in title: testtesttest by some random person on stackoverflow.com

^ Can someone reply fp to that?

user259867

@hichris123 fp

hichris123

Ugh doesn't work.

Andrew T.

@hichris123 fp

hichris123

That was me trying to mock it.

Ahhh

Okay, now try, but with ignore.

user259867

@hichris123 ignore

hichris123

02:06

sigh nevermind.

Louis

Oh, I thought it was successfully ignoring Fundamental.

Shog9

@Louis common mistake. You were successfully ignoring Behavior

user259867

*Behaviour

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hichris123

@Louis No, I'm just bad at trying to fix things.

user259867

I think it was reasonable for me to expect that
re = /baba/; str = re.toString(); re2 = new RegExp(str);
would recover the original regex...

user259867

02:12

But apparently, it has to be str = re.toString().slice(1,-1);

Shog9

@Fundamental new Function((function() { return 'blah'; }).toString()) doesn't work either.

And is somewhat more annoying to make work reliably

user259867

Yes, that slice idea was stupid, would lose parameters.

Shog9

@Fundamental eval()

it's not evil if you cross yourself first

Louis

@Fundamental re.source is what you are looking for.

Shog9

@Louis loses flags

user259867

02:16

So, eval it is.

Shog9

or try to reconstruct the flags

Mooseman

Don't. Ever. eval.

user259867

@Mooseman Want to write a canonical answer to "how to store your JavaScript regexes in strings and then get them back unmangled"? I haven't found one on SO.

Mooseman

@Fundamental NAA (I'm just posting a link), but this may help you.

Andrew T.

Apparently, Google doesn't care about the validity of the screenshot in Play Store (the screenshot is taken on iPhone)

Mooseman

02:29

@AndrewT. or a rooted device

anorton

How did this happen? We closed the question 15 minutes ago, but the answerer answered 10 minutes ago...

(updated the picture with freehand circles)

bjb568

wut

hichris123

74

A: How was this answer posted after this question was closed?

If a question is closed while you're answering on the full version of the site, you will receive a notification that the question was closed and the 'Post Your Answer' button will be disabled. However, this is only a client-side restriction, so it is possible in some cases that this process fails...

Andrew T.

race condition and grace period ^

anorton

ok.

Today I learned... :)

Mooseman

02:38

Didn't realize the grace period was four hours :o

user259867

This seems relevant to the Tavern: How can I show a cat that I am unhappy with one of their actions?.

3

Jan Dvorak

plss help drupal.stackexchange.com/questions/144303/…

user259867

VLQ

SmokeDetector

03:04

[ SmokeDetector ] Repeating characters in body: Getting Revmob banner listener to work in Corona by user2639160 on stackoverflow.com

hichris123

@SmokeDetector ignore

SmokeDetector

@hichris123 Post ignored; alerts about it will not longer be posted.

bjb568

When to use ignore vs fp?

Andrew T.

ask on meta.botling

(actually, I want to know the answer too)

user259867

fp would add the title to doctype "good". When the title wasn't the reason for alert, there is no reason to do that.

bjb568

03:11

@Fundamental In "Helpful Critical Guy", I think saying you're critical is too critical of yourself.

user259867

In fact, I suggested earlier that body checks should only accept "ignore". Don't know if it's implemented.

user259867

@bjb568 So... then I'm critical, and the statement is true.

bjb568

:O

user259867

5th Grade math question. Is this a reason to destroy the account for being underage?

bjb568

Ugh… I feel like I should do some calc hw. I have 2 weeks of it, it's due friday.

I did about 15%…

@Fundamental No!

Andrew T.

03:13

I'd prefer that tp/fp acknowledges the real issue, not the title though

user259867

Dump the other 85% on Mathematics

bjb568

:P

If you got a triangle with points (0, 0), (0, a), (b, 0), how do you prove the general case that the largest area is when a = b? I tried substituting and derivitiving to look for criticals but it gave me nothing (0 = 0).

user259867

@bjb568 What is the constraint on a and b?

Andrew T.

It's answered anyway

bjb568

@Fundamental They're just whatevers, like forany a and b from (0, infinity) or whatever

user259867

03:16

Then "largest" is meaningless, because you can always make a larger triangle than the one you have.

Andrew T.

^

user259867

Normally I'd expect there to be a restriction like a+b=some number.

bjb568

uh oh, u confused teh cat

flips open book

user259867

posts a blurry cellphone picture

bjb568

:P

Fine, then the hypotenuse has to be exactly c long.

c = root(a^2+b^2)

user259867

03:19

Okay, so that gives b = sqrt(c^2-a^2), reducing the problem to maximizing a*sqrt(c^2-a^2)

bjb568

Oh dur, I was maximizing the wrong thing.

gets out huger eraser

It turns out you can't maximize a constant…

hichris123

@AndrewT. What do you mean?

bjb568

Add body to bad list.

Not title.

hichris123

... we currently check the title though...

Hmm, hold on a second.

bjb568

getta work, check der bodies!

Andrew T.

03:26

@hichris123 Err, scratch that idea. It's meaningless, and I have hard time to explain it anyway.

bluet

weird, this is giving me newest results that happened 2 hours ago? stackoverflow.com/search?tab=newest&q=is%3aanswer

hichris123

Heads up: search updates will be delayed a bit as we re-index the entire network for new analyzers and such as part of our search project.

Tweeted by StackStatus on January 15, 2015 at 1:44 AM

bjb568

@hichris123 sounds fancy

user259867

Yay, I finally got my filter to add and store regexes without having to modify its code. (Stored in chrome.storage.sync, hence the problems with regex-string conversion).

bluet

oh ty hichris123

hichris123

03:28

@bjb568 No livestream though. :(

@bluet A certain room I'm in has a bot for StackStatus tweets, so... :P

bluet

they should be in this room

Andrew T.

all things related to SE should be in this room

user259867

^ feature-request @InfiniteRecursion

hichris123

@bluet I should have said feeds bot.

user259867

But twitter has RSS feeds, right? Or not anymore...

Andrew T.

03:30

There's a room feed, I thought?

hichris123

@Fundamental I don't think so. The URL is custom for that feed.

It's script.google.com/macros

Unihedro

!comp 96*16

The one only time I thought bjbotling could help, it doesn't...

2

F12 yay!

Andy

Anyone get a nice tablet recently? My first gen Transformer is starting to crap out and I am trying to figure out what I should look at. I'm not a huge fan of the giant phone tablets, so I've ruled out things like the Nexus 9.

hichris123

@Andy I have a first gen Nexus 7, I've heard the second gen is a lot better.

Andy

The Nexus 7 is a seven inch screen, right?

hichris123

03:34

@Andy yup

(removed)

Lynn Crumbling

The 2nd gen is nice. We have 3 at work. Beautiful display.

Andy

I've been looking for things that have the 10.1 screens. Though, I think one of my coworkers has the nexus 7. I'll bug him about that tomorrow to see how he likes it too

Lynn Crumbling

The nexus 10 has a 10" display. It's okay.

We have a samsung tab 4 - also 7". Don't like it much at all, and it doesn't support otg.

hichris123

@LynnCrumbling I love my first gen. Starting to show its age since it has a Tegra 3 & 1 GB of RAM & crappy flash memory, but it still runs (albeit a little slow).

Andy

Did the nexus 10 get the upgrade to lollipop?

hichris123

03:40

@Andy Ah 10".

@Andy Yes, but...

Not sure how well it runs.

I know they turned off some of the shadows from KitKat on the N10, since it couldn't handle it.

Andy

Well, that's less than ideal in a new tablet

bjb568

iPaaaaaad!

Lynn Crumbling

@hichris123 The gen1's were great.. and as an added bonus, they still had the nfc chipset that supported the mifare chips.

@hichris123 sadly, they dropped support for that in the 2nd gen.

Andy

I have an iPad already. I'm looking to replace the Android device.

bjb568

don't

ɥʇǝS

03:47

@Fundamental I believe the answer here would be "kick it", but I don't think that would go over so well outside of chat ;P

bjb568

Have you tried kicking it? — bjb568 7 secs ago

spred teh culturez!

user259867

How's area maximization going?

hichris123

@LynnCrumbling mifare?

ɥʇǝS

@bjb568 good luck with that.

bjb568

@Fundamental Oh, it's easy.

You just have to not do it totally wrong.

Lynn Crumbling

03:51

@hichris123 Yeah.. it's an rfid chip used in wristbands, landyards, dongles, and all kinds of other fun things.

@hichris123 Oh, and id cards.

hichris123

@LynnCrumbling Ooh, cool. I totally didn't know that.

@InfiniteRecursion Feed for you to add: script.google.com/macros/s/…

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(StackStatus tweets)

user259867

"script", "macros", "exec", and long strings of gibberish. Looks legit.

hichris123

lol

It's in a ton of rooms (including TL!), so it should be safe.

bjb568

in Meta In Praise of Moderators, 7 secs ago, by bjb568

I feel like I'm the only one here.

Lynn Crumbling

@hichris123 I've used two different types of chips... the mifare classic (1k) chips (iso 14443A), which are actually capable of authentication (although supposedly have been brute-forced in < 10s), and the Tag-IT chips (iso 15693), which are just for stashing data.

Unihedro

03:58

@hichris123 Why not just add the feeds of the tweets?

It comes with one-boxing then, too.

Lynn Crumbling

The gen 1 nexus 7 supports both chip types, but google went with a lower-cost chip for nfc in the gen2, because (word is) that nxp wanted too much for their chips.. so they switched to broadcom, and said goodbye to anything that was proprietary to nxp.

user259867

Or a bot that stalks CMs and posts their tweets here. >:D

2

bjb568

LRiO comments, anyone? :P

user259867

"I'm not evil! I'm just ... questionably aligned."

Tweeted by tinkertim on January 14, 2015 at 4:15 PM

Unihedro

@bjb568 He's not very interesting to stalk. :P

There are better sources of free flags.

bjb568

04:03

she?

Unihedro

0

Q: How serial up-voting is decided?

I noticed on Jan 6 more than 1000 of my reputation was reduced by removing some users. I have never, ever created any other user or up-voted myself through any mechanism. It is at least my right to know exactly how a serial up/down voting is decided? If some user likes the common logic of the o...

discussion

Poor Islam.SE user

euphoria overlord

This bounty system is totally trash

especially on sites with tons of bountied questions

a total of 15 views for a week's bounty

hichris123

@Uni huh? This one oneboxes too, by the way.

euphoria overlord

from 98 --> 115

Unihedro

@hichris123 Oh.

Lynn Crumbling

04:06

@euphoriaoverlord Good thing it has no real-life cash value, eh?

Unihedro

@euphoriaoverlord Say hello to per-site chat rooms

euphoria overlord

@Unihedro 2 years later, nothing doen

rip in piece

Unihedro

Oh.

RIP

euphoria overlord

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Q: Questions on the Related/Linked Sidebar do not reflect an answered/unanswered state

From here, notice how the sidebars for these three sites are a tad different, notably, Math.SE. I'm not sure if it's just me, but Math.SE clearly shows whether or not a question has been accepted or not in the sidebar. I decided to have a gander at the other sites, because I wasn't sure if i...

feature-request bug design related-questions linked-questions

Lynn Crumbling

@Unihedro No, RIPIP

euphoria overlord

04:08

I mean sure I got some cyberweb points

bjb568

RIP IN PIECE IN PIECES

euphoria overlord

but the question got very little attention

ɥʇǝS

Not sure why I just taught everyone to flawlessly impersonate me to pretty much anyone I know. Just remember to constantly bring up how cool it is that birds are dinosaurs and you'll be set.

3

Lynn Crumbling

@bjb568 That's RIPIPIP .. oh my god.. it's... it's ... InfiniteRecursion!

bjb568

@inf

ɥʇǝS

04:09

that made me laugh because I've experienced that very thing.

euphoria overlord

Why are we posting random comics

can I post random comics

in the Tavern

bjb568

yes

euphoria overlord

Lynn Crumbling

why are we NOT posting random comics?

@Mooseman xkcd

grr

bjb568

RFC 1149.5 specifies 4 as the standard IEEE-vetted random number.

Lynn Crumbling

04:10

@Moosebot xkcd 221

bjb568

@euphoriaoverlord pseudorandom

ɥʇǝS

@bjb568 hey, that was my line!

bjb568

How to onebox?

Lynn Crumbling

shakes heads; gives up

bjb568

Oh, it doesn't like https.

Unihedro

04:11

bjb568

complains to @shog about how https doesn't work

Frank

works for me

oh you already did it

Unihedro

chat.meta.stackexchange.com/messages/89/2908051

@Frank no, https, not http

Lynn Crumbling

bjb568

And you complain about my gifing.

Night, anyway!

Shog9

04:12

Shog doesnt give a shit about HTTPS. You want nick.

Frank

@Unihedro y

euphoria overlord

Shog9

Or Marc, probably

Unihedro

@Frank you wrote this, bjb was complaining about https, you posted the http one-box, of course it worked :P

user259867

SPAM drupal.stackexchange.com/q/144308/36774

hichris123

04:16

Is my bot running?

Yup, it just didn't catch that.

ɥʇǝS

one more flag!

Andrew T.

gone!

Frank

@Unihedro oh why was he using https

Unihedro

@Frank .. why are you using http?

Frank

@Unihedro cuz

Why shouldn't I

bluet

04:24

Frank

@bluet lol but it would take longer than 1000 years

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector ] Offensive answer detected: Predestination ending scene by user18149 on movies.stackexchange.com

ɥʇǝS

@SmokeDetector tp

SmokeDetector

@ɥʇǝS Registered as true positive: added title to Bayesian doctype 'bad'.

ɥʇǝS

Does that work as expected?

Undo

04:31

@ɥʇǝS in theory

in practice... maybe? :P

ɥʇǝS

okay then ;)

user259867

@Undo What is supposed to happen in theory?

Undo

every works right and the right post gets recorded.

bluet

but it adds the title of the question to docytype bad? why?

user259867

05:08

> I want to learn gaming and android apps making as well, is there any place to start, book or a website maybe? Any help is appreciated :) -- ugh

Unihedro

Are you looking for tutorials? There are many tutorials. If you are indeed good at programming, you would know better to use a search engine for advices like these. — Unihedro 6 secs ago

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword in title: best supplements for muscle growth by zaidagraves on meta.stackexchange.com

Unihedro

user259867

@SmokeDetector tpu

SmokeDetector

@Fundamental Registered as true positive: added title to Bayesian doctype 'bad' and blacklisted user.

Unihedro

05:16

> 784 Computer Programs Left

:(

user259867

I'd say that depends on the language and IDE...

Unihedro

keysleft.com

^ that

Undo

@Unihedro I only have 777 :(

although I type a lot faster with autocomplete

Unihedro

My peak WPM is 92, so I used that value. It was once 100-103 WPM.

That was, until I started relying on the IDE content assist.

Undo

I just tested it writing "normal words" and it's 90. I bet I run ~200 with autocomplete

someone needs to make a thing to test that

DroidDev

05:25

NAA? stackoverflow.com/a/27746282/2389078

the answer is telling the question is duplicate of other questions

also, the answerer has flagged the question as duplicate

Unihedro

@DroidDev "you need to use the Support v4 Fragment instead of the normal Fragment."

user259867

Maybe better to kill the question itself?

Unihedro

The rest is all immaterial.

DroidDev

@Fundamental umm...I prefer "why isn't this code working(seeking debugging help)"

although, I wonder who upvoted question... :/

Unihedro

Anyway, it is an answer, it's the kind of "You need to do X and it will work. See here: Y", sometimes the solution really is as simple as X. You can fix it if you want, by including details into the answer itself.

DroidDev

05:38

ok :)

hichris123

[ SmokeDetector ] Score of 84.7686: Skin Relief Product So When To Make Use Of It? on askubuntu.com

user259867

SPAM ^

Andrew T.

@hichris123 tpu

aargh,, it's not smokey D:

user259867

SPAM superuser.com/questions/864976/…

Unihedro

I'm amazed at how hichris hasn't gotten super annoyed by all the pings yet

TGMCians

05:44

morning

DroidDev

in Shadow's Den, Jan 5 at 5:44, by DroidDev

I don't know what's to mind there in it... :/

Unihedro

Morning!

Relationships and Dating

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