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hichris123

10:04 PM

@nicael He got no rep until then.

bjb568

stackoverflow.com/users/4186297/…

hichris123

It seems like your rep graph doesn't start until you get > 1 rep.

nicael

@bjb568 Is he trying to promote projecteuler.net?

bjb568

@nicael Probably.

nicael

@bjb568 So edits should be rejected.

bjb568

10:08 PM

I'm doing that.

nicael

@bjb568 Maybe also flag him?

bjb568

CV stackoverflow.com/q/1642357/2371861

hichris123

@bjb568 stackoverflow.com/review/suggested-edits/6187085

@nicael Doubtful.

nicael

@hichris123 So just rep farmer?..

hichris123

@nicael Possibly, and/or thinks that they're helping.

bjb568

10:11 PM

CV stackoverflow.com/q/16039150/2371861

Ughughugh. I keep inviting people to SO Tavern instead of the robo room.

reject stackoverflow.com/review/suggested-edits/6187247

> Thank you for reviewing 20 suggested edits today; come back in 1 hour to continue reviewing.

@JonEricson Hey, you gots a diamond. Could you deal with stackoverflow.com/users/4186297/… ?

reject-plz stackoverflow.com/review/suggested-edits/6187293

(fingers type "reg" because regex)

nicael

Found a bug

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Q: If an edit was suggested to an answer to my question and I go to this edit, I see the checkmark

For example, this edit was proposed to an answer to my question. The bug is I see the checkmark when I go to this edit (I can't click it however).

bjb568

reject stackoverflow.com/review/suggested-edits/6187295

reject stackoverflow.com/review/suggested-edits/6187297

rev-ban stackoverflow.com/users/1013327/gilberto-torrezan

LQ stackoverflow.com/q/26745758/2371861

Jon Ericson

10:28 PM

@bjb568 Man I love Project Euler. What's the issue?

bjb568

reject stackoverflow.com/review/suggested-edits/6187248

@JonEricson There's no point in linking it everywhere. And the repeated behavior looks like spam to me.

The tag needs to be burninated.

Huh… how is meta.stackoverflow.com/q/275935/2371861 so controversial?

Jon Ericson

@bjb568 Looks likes someone who just discovered the site to me. Looks benign to helpful.

bjb568

Well, make it stahp!

Jon Ericson

@bjb568 That looks like a helpful edit. The original is basically a malformed link.

Jan Dvorak

@bjb568 perhaps users consider the tag useful ;-)

bjb568

10:30 PM

NOOOOOO.

Patrick Hofman

@nicael: I was an inactive user for two years until I got the chance to participate in SO actively during working hours (I do invest some serious personal time too). I am mainly active in the .net tags which is the main technology I introduced as CTO / senior consultant.

bjb568

I removed the association to project euler on the older edit-proposed posts.

nicael

@PatrickHofman Thanks for clarifying :)

Patrick Hofman

@in our company. (hit enter too soon)

Jan Dvorak

@bjb568 why?

bjb568

10:31 PM

Aren't questions (supposed to be) about the question? It isn't important that the question was from attempting a project euler problem.

@JanDvorak It added nothing of value.

Jan Dvorak

It tells answerers not to answer with full code

hichris123

@bjb568 You meant tags, right? ;)

Jan Dvorak

Also, you can easily be an expert on Project Euler ;-)

bjb568

@hichris123 Also the mention in the question.

@JanDvorak … How?

Jan Dvorak

@bjb568 by completing it;-)

Patrick Hofman

10:33 PM

Anyone knows if this answer is linked in a recent post on SO? Received one up and one down vote on it today. stackoverflow.com/questions/25009327/primitive-types-in-net/…

bjb568

@JanDvorak That's an argument for the homework tag. Or the newbie tag.

Jon Ericson

@bjb568 It turns out to be a skill that doesn't easily transfer to other realms, sadly.

hichris123

@bjb568 I was referring to "Aren't questions (supposed to be) about the question?".

Jan Dvorak

I don't mind these two tags, actually

nicael

@PatrickHofman It isn't linked to anything :)

bjb568

10:34 PM

@hichris123 I meant questions. Meaning the question body should be about the problem, not fluff.

hichris123

@bjb568 Okay, that totally didn't make any sense. :P

bjb568

At least This edit fails to make the post even a little bit easier to read, easier to find, more accurate or more accessible. Changes are either completely superfluous or actively harm readability. applies

Patrick Hofman

@nicael: how can you see that? I mean another question that has this answer as link.

Jon Ericson

@bjb568 Those two fail the second meta-tag criteria. They mean different things to different people:

Blog - Stack Exchange: The Death of Meta Tags

Jeff Atwood on August 06, 2010

There are a few tags on Stack Overflow that have bugged me for a long time. Namely:

subjective best-practices beginner

best-practices beginner

beginner

But I could never quite articulate what, exactly, was wrong with these tags. It’s been bothering me more and more as time goes on. So much so, that about two months ago, I was compelled to ask on meta: Should we permanently remove the [subjective] tag?

There are some weak arguments in favor of keeping [subjective], but that’s about the best its proponents can muster. The arguments against it are much stronger. I felt Shog9 made the best case: …

bjb568

@hichris123 Questions (the actual post) should be about the question (what the OP wants answered), not containing fluff.

@JonEricson I wouldn't like it to be the only tag on a question either.

Jon Ericson

10:37 PM

project-euler doesn't fail those tests. (But it could be worth removing for some other reason I haven't heard yet.)

nicael

@PatrickHofman :) Because while viewing your profile to find out real age of your account, I noticed ugly -2... Now you can guess yourself.

bjb568

@JonEricson What? It doesn't add any categorizational value. It doesn't matter if a problem is from project euler or not. Those problems come up in other places too.

nicael

^^^^^^

Patrick Hofman

@nicael lol

Jan Dvorak

@bjb568 it might help searching for them

Jon Ericson

10:40 PM

@bjb568 But to solve PE problems, you have some odd constraints. Like they really ought to take a few seconds of compute time. So brute force solutions don't really work. The tag defines a venue in an analogous way as the linux tag does.

bjb568

@JanDvorak 1) You shouldn't search for them 2) No, you search for "how to blehblehbleh" not "project euler problem #123"

Jan Dvorak

@bjb568 I might, but some people just want to pass the tests

@JonEricson not really; PE solutions can take as long as you want as long as you're willing to wait that out

bjb568

@JanDvorak Well, we shouldn't keyword-stuff just because we want people to find stuff. If it's fluff and doesn't help answerers (the core of SO) answer the problem, it's not worth keeping.

Jan Dvorak

@bjb568 um...

bjb568

@JanDvorak … yeah?

Jan Dvorak

10:43 PM

the point of tags is to aid search

bjb568

The point of tags is to categorize posts.

> Tags are keywords or labels that categorize and group your question with other, similar questions.

meta.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/tags

Jan Dvorak

ok... w/e

bjb568

PE questions aren't similar to each other and a group of them doesn't make much sense

Jan Dvorak

they are similar to each other

bjb568

How? There's a bunch of different problems about different things.

user259867

10:45 PM

PE questions form a distinct group of questions. Some nontrivial math considerations are involved, for one thing.

bjb568

… things that can and are categorized thru other, more valuable tags.

user259867

Rather different from "why does not my code compile" kind of questions, for instance.

bjb568

@Rafflesiaarnoldii stackoverflow.com/questions/tagged/math

@Rafflesiaarnoldii Some PE tagged questions are that

Jan Dvorak

@Rafflesiaarnoldii so are performance questions, yet that tag is being burninated

should I suggest a not-crap tag for questions that are not about basic debugging?

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user259867

Okay, my compiling remark was pointless. But "math" can mean someone struggling to figure out the distance between points on the screen, given their coordinates. PE is a more narrow category that that.

Jan Dvorak

10:49 PM

@Rafflesiaarnoldii how?

bjb568

There's specific tags like stackoverflow.com/questions/tagged/primes anyway

Jan Dvorak

inb4 nuke-pls primes

user259867

They are challenges in mathematical computation. Not questions about basic math concepts needed to program something like rotating an image.

user259867

Speaking of math: I have just leveled up there:

user259867

bjb568

10:51 PM

@Rafflesiaarnoldii [math][not-crap]

user259867

^^ those 5 posts were not crap.

Jan Dvorak

@Rafflesiaarnoldii FWIW, you could have claimed them misclicks

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user259867

11:48 PM

There's also the difference between working to add something that may be of marginal value, and working to remove something that may be of marginal value. There's a territory in which neither adding nor removing are worth the effort; I think PE references falls there.

bjb568

Fine. Just ban that editor!

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