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user163250

00:29

@SantaClaus yes.

Santa Claus

@Cupcake ooooooooooh thats nice

hichris123

01:28

cv-plz meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/268079/…

bjb568

01:43

0

Q: My windsock is erect, what does this mean?

I know that airport windsocks are calibrated to reach full erection at a particular wind velocity. At half that speed, the first half of the windsock should be erect and the second half should droop sorrowfully. At one third the speed it will be one third, and so on. Trouble is that not all win...

Braiam

@bjb568 o...key

bjb568

The stick figure face fits so nicely with the question…

Andy

@bjb568 Risky image search of the day: erect windsock

bjb568

Oh FSM…

Jason C

01:59

@bjb568 Don't windsocks become erect when blown?

3

bjb568

Yup. Same as… other things.

(gtg)

Jamal

@bjb568 Yeah, that's not gonna attract any male-enhancement spam.

Santa Claus

02:17

Would this answer be worth a NAA flag?

animuson

@SantaClaus It's already had one and it got declined.

Santa Claus

@animuson I know - that was me. I'm trying to figure out why it was declined.

animuson

Well it does answer the question, however poorly.

Santa Claus

@animuson Hmm - so then would it better warrant a VLQ flag? Or is no flag necessary since it answers the question, just poorly?

animuson

Downvoting is a good option.

Santa Claus

02:26

@animuson Is that the best, and only option?

@animuson What about this one: stackoverflow.com/a/3433914/2446155

AstroCB

0

Q: why exactly has this been closed?

Dealing with noisy movement positions two answers have been provided, though they have been written as comments. the kalman filter I've learnt is the recognised way of answering the question.

discussion

There we go.

Ideas?

Santa Claus

@AstroCB Looks like his question was reopened.

AstroCB

@SantaClaus Interesting. Doesn't surprise me, though: a quick glance at the question makes it seem to violate quite a few guidelines, but the actual question it's asking is sound.

Good case for the SO Academy...

Santa Claus

@AstroCB Oh please...

animuson

Does anyone else use paperclips to pick their teeth more than actually clipping papers together?

Braiam

02:37

@animuson err... no

3

Santa Claus

@animuson In general, I'm trying to figure out if low-quality answers (that barely attempt to answer the question) can be flagged in any way?

Braiam

and that was today's animuson's weird question

Santa Claus

They should attach paper clips onto their sharp sticks to make them pointier.

Jamal

04:19

cv-plz stackoverflow.com/questions/25139761/…

bjb568

@SantaClaus And needles to paper clips!

bjb568

04:40

(goodnight, ponies)

(and birds and kittens)

animuson

:o I see a mootinator!

Jan Dvorak

SPAM drupal.stackexchange.com/questions/126102/…

SPAM drupal.stackexchange.com/questions/126103/…, SPAM drupal.stackexchange.com/questions/126104/…

SPAM drupal.stackexchange.com/questions/126100/muscle-buiiding-links

SPAM drupal.stackexchange.com/questions/126105/muscle-building-ans

Braiam

04:56

@JanDvorak two more

Jan Dvorak

@Braiam flags?

Braiam

yup

Santa Claus

I think I just gave the last flag for a few of em

Braiam

nope, someone downvoted and flagged...

Jan Dvorak

SPAM meta.stackexchange.com/questions/237733/…

Braiam

05:03

one more

in Unix and Linux on The Stack Exchange Network Chat, 10 hours ago, by Gilles

@FaheemMitha There is absolutely nothing to gain by downvoting spam, and it makes it stay longer because the post becomes less visible to users who might add their own flag. Don't downvote spam.

^ this needs to be send by emails

Santa Claus

I'm leaving, but ping me if you need another spam flag desperately.

Jason C

@Braiam Doesn't flagging as spam cast a downvote?

Braiam

@JasonC yeah

Jan Dvorak

@Braiam it only hides spam from the front page, where anons come

SPAM gaming.stackexchange.com/questions/179562/…

Braiam

woa, spam on all se?

animuson

05:16

Never seen a Gaming URL pop up in here...

Braiam

except when... you know... they pop everywhere

Jan Dvorak

SPAM meta.stackexchange.com/questions/237734/…

Jan Dvorak

06:29

SPAM meta.stackexchange.com/questions/237737/muscle-building-meta

Jamal

-12

Q: Resolve this issue as soon as possible

[root@mobilecityguides tools]# ./zipalign -v 4 /root/Desktop/eventseeker.apk /root/Desktop/eventseeker_unaligh.apk Unable to open '/root/Desktop/eventseeker.apk' as zip archive [root@mobilecityguides tools]# Kindly fix this issue. if run that above command on terminal it is given errore like th...

android

Jan Dvorak

cv-pls^

Jamal

> Kindly fix this issue.

Jan Dvorak

SPAM meta.stackexchange.com/questions/237739/… (NSFM)

animuson

What does that picture have to do with working out?

Jan Dvorak

07:05

SPAM drupal.stackexchange.com/questions/126115/…

Doorknob

@JanDvorak Not Safe For Meta?

Jan Dvorak

@Doorknob not safe for muslims (but should be fine for work). Is that racist?

Sorry for the delay. #blameChrome #blame2GB

Jan Dvorak

07:55

SPAM drupal.stackexchange.com/questions/126125/…

user163250

If anyone else wants to apply downvotes to this: meta.stackoverflow.com/a/268103/456814

SmokeDetector

08:23

[ SmokeDetector ] All-caps title: Робокасса USD/RUB on magento.stackexchange.com

Bart

@Cupcake wouldn't that be rude? :p

SmokeDetector

08:58

[ SmokeDetector ] All-caps title: UBUNTU OS FRESH INSTALL OFFLINE on askubuntu.com

Jan Dvorak

09:15

SPAM gaming.stackexchange.com/questions/179586/…

SmokeDetector

09:32

[ SmokeDetector ] Offensive title detected: What does “idiot-proof-ness” mean? on ell.stackexchange.com

Jan Dvorak

SPAM drupal.stackexchange.com/questions/126134/…

@SmokeDetector you fail

Jan Dvorak

10:05

SPAM meta.stackexchange.com/questions/237749/…

Doorknob

@JanDvorak An employee nuked it via spam flag

(it got deleted by Community at -3)

Jan Dvorak

10:18

SPAM meta.stackexchange.com/questions/237750/…

SilentKiller

one quick question why a preson with multiple ID on stackoverflow is allowed.?

Bart

Why shouldn't it be?

Stijn

77

Q: I am a sockpuppet, may I exist if I have a real purpose?

I am a sockpuppet account of Josh, AKA The Unhandled Exception. I am going to help him test the XMPP chat integration system he's building. Am I allowed to exist? I promise to behave, and never leave Meta or Meta's chat. If so, may I please have enough rep to chat? EDIT BY JOSH: I have drawn a ...

support chat sock-puppets

It's allowed for testing purposes mostly, but it's disallowed when you vote with one account on another etc

SilentKiller

@Bart why multiple ID's.?

Jan Dvorak

SPAM meta.stackexchange.com/questions/237751/…

SilentKiller

10:21

@Stijn testing i can understand. but what if the multiple ID;s are only for chatting.?

Jan Dvorak

SPAM meta.stackexchange.com/questions/237752/…

Bart

I have an extra account for testing purposes. It helps me answer some new-user questions on Meta sites @SilentKiller. There have been users in the past who have stated they had an "embarrassing" question and didn't want it associated to their main account. It's all no problem as long as those accounts don't get too cozy with each other.

Jan Dvorak

> You can only flag a post once per 5 seconds

SilentKiller

@Bart ya buddy i agreed with that concern but what if a person create multiple ID's to chat with girls and multiple rooms.

Bart

I'd almost argue the "multiple ID's" is not the actual problem.

It might worsen a problem that already exists with a single account, but it doesn't mean that having multiple accounts is inherently problematic.

SilentKiller

10:25

@Bart ya no issue with i agreed with your point.

Jan Dvorak

SPAM meta.stackexchange.com/questions/237753/…

SilentKiller

@Bart a user's 3 ID has been merged and he is still he is continue of creating rooms.

Bart

Sounds like someone worth flagging them @SilentKiller.

There have been users/trolls like that in the past.

SilentKiller

i found one too. and strange is that person flagged my room too because in my we were removing message because of sharing code.

@Bart that person have 31 rooms.. lols. dont know what kinda of talk he was doing there. :D

Bart

Flag and move on.

Let moderators deal with it.

SilentKiller

10:31

Gordon knows about him and told me that he had to answer moderators. :)

Bart

Okay, good.

Jan Dvorak

10:56

SPAM scifi.stackexchange.com/questions/65215/…

SilentKiller

11:21

@JanDvorak if a question is too common we can easily get answer if we do bit googling what whether its SPAM.?

Jan Dvorak

@SilentKiller wat?

are you testing your new markov chain generator?

SilentKiller

@JanDvorak as any question is useless or off topic so we are tagging it as "SPAM" but what tag we should give if question is too easy to answer.?

@DroidDev there.?

DroidDev

@SilentKiller yups

how are you?

SilentKiller

6 mins ago, by SilentKiller

@JanDvorak as any question is useless or off topic so we are tagging it as "SPAM" but what tag we should give if question is too easy to answer.?

me fine buddy and you.?

DroidDev

@SilentKiller I am also fine, thank you. How is weather at your place?

SilentKiller

11:35

check this he asking for peice of code.? what TAG we should alot.? stackoverflow.com/questions/25202504/…

@DroidDev its cool here what about you.?

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector ] All-caps title: PILLS FOR BODY BUILDING on meta.stackexchange.com

DroidDev

@SilentKiller all cloudy, since last week

Jan Dvorak

SPAM drupal.stackexchange.com/questions/126151/…

Braiam

11:56

DroidDev

btw, you really are a silentKiller @SilentKiller ;)

SilentKiller

@DroidDev lols... its a nick given by Professers when i won university game championship in CounterStrike. ;)

DroidDev

@SilentKiller talking of....

in Shadow's Den, 3 hours ago, by DroidDev

@SPArchaeologist yups, you can also argue with "UI" point by talking about Counter strike. That game beats everything if you talk about user engagement, popularity etc

SilentKiller

hahahahah

GnomeSlice

12:25

Today's Listening | Nu Disco / Electronic (Mixsets day 8)

user202362

12:36

2

Jan Dvorak

SPAM drupal.stackexchange.com/questions/126153/…

Braiam

ok, who are the guys in drupal that are downvoting stuff?

Bart

@GnomeSlice yay

GnomeSlice

@Bart This one is one of my personal favourites, it's really good.

I gotta go, got an interview.

Bart

cya. and good luck

SilentKiller

12:49

All the Best. cya

SilentKiller

13:04

cya friends.. :)

DroidDev

@SilentKiller cya

SmokeDetector

13:54

[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword detected: Most Powerful Vashikaran Mantra +91-9950211818 on english.stackexchange.com

Bart

yay

Wait what? "There are an unusual number of requests coming from this IP address." ...

Did anyone else experience that?

iStimple

@Bart no

Stijn

@Bart I get that when opening a bunch of pages in a row, like when going over a user's questions when they ask for help on Meta. 10 requests or so can get you into that temp block.

Bart

Hmm, I was editing a bit on Careers

Seems to have gone again

iStimple

@Stijn it takes at least like 25 for me in a row, but think it says large instead of unusual

Bart

14:00

And I guess my mobile devices would add to the situation as well ... same IP I'd think.

Amal Murali

14:31

one or two mins gap is ok. But 3 or above means a copied answer. — Avinash Raj 9 mins ago

I answered this question a few minutes after this guy did, and our regexes ended up being exactly the same. However, in the 5 minutes gap, I edited my answer to include a visualization and explanation of the regex — I'm not sure if I should delete it. What do you think?

Jan Dvorak

I disagree with Raj

iStimple

leave it since you didn't just copy paste his answer

Jan Dvorak

ultimately, the voting will tell

Bart

3 or above means you were later. That's all.

iStimple

i flagged his comments for you

Amal Murali

14:34

That's exactly what I think @Bart. Just wanted to get an opinion from someone else :)

Jan Dvorak

if it was 3 days... yea, that's bad

Amal Murali

Do you think the question should've been closed as a dupe instead? I think they're asking different things...

Bart

Unless you're typing with your nose @JanDvorak ...

Braiam

@Bart you mean feet.. the nose is easy

and just to prove my point I typed that ^ with my nose

Jan Dvorak

@Braiam depends... thumb, or heel?

Bart

14:36

@Braiam Or blue?

Jan Dvorak

You'll be cleaning my keyboard in either case

Amal Murali

@Bart: You just summoned the person with the blue feet!

Bart

It's one of my superpowers @AmalMurali. That and my ability to deflect any cotton ball attacks.

Braiam

@Bart we all know blue is cheating

iStimple

@AmalMurali I don't see that he even left an answer??? Did he delete it? or he has multiple account?

Bart

14:45

He deleted it @iStimple

Amal Murali

@iStimple Yup, he deleted it. Screenshot

@iStimple: Your mod flag worked!

@AvinashRaj: Amal posted the negative lookahead at 14:00UTC. You originally posted a lookbehind at 13:56UTC, but only changed to a lookahead at 14:08UTC, after Amal left his comment. Don't make accusations. If you have something you think looks wrong, flag it for moderator attention. — Andrew Barber ♦ 2 mins ago

Bart

15:05

@JasonC debuggex.com

TGMCians

\o

Jason C

@Bart Oh sweet

Braiam

@Bart cool

Amal Murali

@Bart What was that in response to?

Jason C

@AmalMurali I left a comment on your regex post asking how the diagram was made.

(I deleted it just now)

Amal Murali

15:18

@JasonC Ah I see. I just added that :)

Jason C

^ ex-parrot.com/pdw/Mail-RFC822-Address.html

This is fun, haha.

Amal Murali

Yah, been there, done that :P

I was thinking the site would just return some sort of error. But to my surprise, it worked.

Jason C

Aw man; I know, I'm late to the game. I'll keep the rest to myself haha.

@AmalMurali And surprisingly quickly, too.

Amal Murali

Yeah, it's a cool website :)

GnomeSlice

15:33

830

Q: Why does Windows think that my wireless keyboard is a toaster?

I've inherited an old PC from my girlfriend's dad and when setting up the printer I got a bit of a surprise: Two questions spring to mind here: Why does Windows think my wireless keyboard is a toaster? Why does Windows even have an icon for a toaster in the devices menu?

windows-7 device-manager

user202362

I wonder ... why not more newblets hit this chat ... is this chat too covert?

GnomeSlice

New people don't use meta.SE

user202362

true

GnomeSlice

Most of the chats have surprisingly few people in them anyway.

Jason C

cv-plz belongs on superuser; stackoverflow.com/questions/25206793/…

TGMCians

15:35

done

Jason C

I think SE chats have less people in them too because there's a good notification system; you don't have to lurk in the room.

Sterling Archer

I do wish those notifications in chat would auto-vanish though.

bjb568

16:09

Reviewing my MSE flags…

That's nice.

hichris123

@gnat It's not that simple. Moderators can do one of three things when working with comment flags: 1) delete, 2) edit, and 3) dismiss (decline). To mark them as helpful without deleting you would have to delete/undelete, or make a tiny edit. — hichris123 Jul 31 at 15:27

bjb568

Why don't they unbork it then?

hichris123

Because comment flags/comments are second-rate citizens.

bjb568

Ah. Everything in the world should be classified as "second-rate", then nobody would have to do anything!

Sterling Archer

lol why were you test flagging?

SmokeDetector

16:19

[ SmokeDetector ] All-caps title: MAGENTO SECURE PAYMENT BRIDGE on magento.stackexchange.com

bjb568

4

A: Does flagging a comment as "other..." count as a vote to delete it?

"Stand back, I'm going to try science!" Based on experimental results, it seems that the claim made in the question above (namely, that all comment flag types effectively count as delete votes) is only partially correct. Let me try to summarize the results below: Summary: Confirmed for one-f...

Sterling Archer

ahhh

user163250

cv-plz duplicate stackoverflow.com/questions/24887384/…

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector ] All-caps title: IS THE US 3611966 PATENT STIL ACTIVE? on patents.stackexchange.com

Jason C

YES! Win! aviation.stackexchange.com/posts/8051/revisions

user163250

16:28

^ wow.

bjb568

@bjb568 We have several off-topic posts that have longstanding recommend closure flags against them, but no action has been taken against them. — damryfbfnetsi 6 mins ago

^ Uh… how does that have anything to do with anything?

@SmokeDetector Suggested edit. patents.stackexchange.com/review/suggested-edits/8188

Braiam

@bjb568 how did he created that tag?

hichris123

@Braiam patents.stackexchange.com/help/privileges/create-tags

Braiam

O_O

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector ] All-caps title: MAGENTO SECURE PAYMENT BRIDGE on magento.stackexchange.com

bjb568

16:41

What's wrong with their privs?

Sterling Archer

Is the SmokeDetector source code open source?

Andy

8

A: Best practices for linking references to patent numbers?

Link to Google Patents as the default. They have a very nice interface for reading a patent, and a very easy and predictable URL. If the Patent or Publication number is US 2009/0293106, the URL is: http://www.google.com/patents/US20090293106 Also, tag the question with the patent number, ...

It is by design on patents

@SterlingArcher yes. click on "SmokeDetector" in the message it sends

Sterling Archer

Oh, that was dumb.

hichris123

Does anyone have a quick file copy utility for Windows 7?

Andy

@hichris123 What do you mean?

Can you just use the copy command?

hichris123

16:45

@Andy Something that can copy files quickly.

@Andy Well, it's pretty slow...

(I'm copying a couple hundred thousand files)

Braiam

@hichris123 teracopy?

bjb568

@hichris123 You expect to do things on windows?

Andy

@hichris123 locally? or over a network?

@bjb568 Don't hate. You can do things on windows.

bjb568

@Andy No. You can't.

Braiam

@Andy but that doesn't mean they are actually useful

hichris123

16:48

@Andy Locally.

@bjb568 Yes. And/or Ubuntu.

@Braiam Is it fast? Does it work with a ton of files?

bjb568

@hichris123 Ubuntu is better.

Andy

@hichris123 It's here. Sounds promising though.

iStimple

@Cupcake please post more on MSE so I don't have to approve these.

For example, these questions could easily of been posted on MSE : 1, 2, 3

, 4, 5

TGMCians

@Braiam I heard about this too. I think that copy the files in parallel to speed up the things

hichris123

@Andy yup. It's around 10% done of 220,000 files right now.

Braiam

17:03

@hichris123 faster?

bjb568

@iStimple Ugh. Why do we need a fashion SE? What a stupid idea. We don't need fashion, we don't need a fashion SE. It's worse than the damned CMSs.

hichris123

@Braiam a ton.

iStimple

@bjb568 pictures of hot girls?

bjb568

@iStimple We have… other sources.

Braiam

@bjb568 hey, hot girls pics, like, everyday

bjb568

17:04

Reddit.

Braiam

2

Fashion

Proposed Q&A site for anyone concerned with fashion trends all over the world.

Currently in definition.

^ this is a thing

bjb568

0

Q: What's the point of this anyway?

Proposal: Fashion What's the point of this proposal? What kind of fashion questions would people have that would warrant an SE site? I personally think this site should not exist.

life

iStimple

SPAM meta.stackexchange.com/questions/237770/…

Braiam

17:24

@iStimple what spam ;)?

iStimple

did andrew pass bill recently? stackoverflow.com/review/close/stats i always thought bill was on top by far

bjb568

Ugh. When I try to type "Jason" I type "json".

Braiam

@bjb568 I bet you pronounce JSON as Jay-son

bjb568

What else would you pronounce it as?

Braiam

gi-s-oh-an?

bjb568

17:31

Uh… no.

user163250

Consider voting meta.stackoverflow.com/a/268132/456814

animuson

Heh, random upvote on an old answer makes me look at it and close the question.

bjb568

^ Alien kittens!

Santa Claus

@bjb568 Somebody's avatar looks like that, but I can't remember who

bjb568

del-pls stackoverflow.com/a/3654272/2371861

user163250

17:42

I ran out of upvotes for the comments here meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/268123/… :/

AstroCB

@Cupcake Jon Skeet laid down the law: conversation over.

iStimple

@bjb568 it's an answer to the question..

bjb568

cv-pls stackoverflow.com/q/24874927/2371861

@iStimple No, it's crap.

Thanks for the deletion!

Jason C

@bjb568 When I have to speak to people about JSON, I always feel self-conscious. On more than one occasion I opted for XML solely to avoid that inevitable discussion.

user163250

@bjb568 it's a legit answer to a crappy question.

user163250

17:43

I've had the misfortune of arguing with you over that before.

user163250

I'm not going to bother rehashing it again.

bjb568

@Cupcake No, it's so crappy it's potential spam.

iStimple

@Cupcake I'm surprised he's not suspended yet. They are probably waiting till the mob clears?

user163250

@iStimple why would that make a difference?

user163250

Users have been suspended while having a lot of eyeballs on them before.

user163250

17:46

The reasons for a suspension in this case are quite clear.

user163250

It's not like it would be controversial.

user163250

The guy's just an ignorant a-hole, in my opinion.

bjb568

cv-pls stackoverflow.com/q/7573909/2371861

Santa Claus

I don't think I've posted this here yet, so here:

2

Q: How can old, low-quality answers be dealt with?

Let me start off with a collection of old, low-quality answers. These answers sometimes attempt to answer the question, but not well. http://stackoverflow.com/a/3433914/2446155: E.g. via en event. http://stackoverflow.com/a/1839986/2446155: This is not a bug. http://stackoverflow.com...

discussion

animuson

Yes, because we like to let vigilante justice take its course before we step in and take action.

3

bjb568

17:47

@Cupcake Since when did mods care about opinions anyway? :P

user163250

@animuson exactly.

hichris123

This is going to be an interesting SU question:

Braiam

@hichris123 there's so much wrong with that

hichris123

@Braiam ... yes, I actually am going to try to connect a 3 TB external hard drive to Windows 95.

Braiam

1 min ago, by Braiam

@hichris123 there's so much wrong with that

Jason C

17:54

Of all the SE network sites, aviation.se is by far my favorite one to just browse when I'm bored.

Ah, sorry guys. I forgot we were in the Tavern and accidentally made a genuinely nice comment. It will not happen again.

3

Anna Lear

Every time I feel I'm about to be nice, I step away from the keyboard and wait until the feeling passes.

10

Jason C

@AnnaLear My dream girl. swoon.

bjb568

I mean… it's the internet, guys. There's no being nice here. Being nice on the internet is a sign of serious brain cancer (e.g. facebook).

Is there an existing SE site where fashion design is on-topic?

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