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11:01 PM
@fahad if it matters, yes
Are you a programmer?
I suppose so ;)
I am new to SO chat
and i am really enjoying it
11:03 PM
@fahad it's pretty awesome :)
it does get more exciting than this sometimes
I'm not around here much - I hangaround at Super User :)
I am confused between these linked sites
SO == programming questions
stackoverflow for programmers? than what to ask at the new programmers site buit?
11:05 PM
SU == desktop questions on applications
they should have a good name i guess
so someone like me can remmeber
@fahad that's for subjective questions
I still dont know what stackoverflow means lol
Stack Overflow is a website part of the Stack Exchange network featuring questions and answers on a wide range of topics in computer programming. The website features the ability for users to ask and answer questions, and, through membership and active participation, to vote questions and answers up or down and edit questions and answers in a wiki fashion. Users of Stack Overflow can earn reputation points and "badges"; for example, a person is awarded 10 reputation points for receiving an "up" vote on an answer given to a question, and can receive badges for their valued contributi...
11:09 PM
lol i meant the work StackOverflow
In software, a stack overflow occurs when too much memory is used on the call stack. The call stack contains a limited amount of memory, often determined at the start of the program. The size of the call stack depends on many factors, including the programming language, machine architecture, multi-threading, and amount of available memory. When too much memory is used on the call stack the stack is said to overflow, typically resulting in a program crash. This class of software bug is usually caused by one of two types of programming errors. Infinite recursion The most common cause of...
I actually just explained it on your MSO question :)
A: There're Stack Overflow, Server Fault, and more -- where should I ask my question?

Michael MrozekDon't the names already do that? A Stack Overflow is an error made while programming; SO is for programming questions Server Fault has "server" right in the name; SF is for server administration questions A Super User is a user with above-average capabilities on a computer; SU is for general co...

@MichaelMrozek thanks
I wanted to ask that if i can ask stupid questions?
11:11 PM
What do you mean by "stupid questions"?
like basic networking problems
I am very new in computer engineering so I dont know much
but i am very enthusiastic
@fahad as in how to setup a computer network ?
11:13 PM
It probably belongs on SU, but it depends on the type of networking question I suppose
@fahad that would belong in Super User
i watned to setup a computer network to share the data
serverfault should be my choice?
11:13 PM
A: Setting up network sharing among four computers

robTo get all the computers on the Internet, you will need a router instead of (or in addition to) the network switch, since your cable modem probably only provides a single Internet IP address. What's happening now is you're having a problem with network addressing--since there is no local DHCP se...

I wanted to connect 2 of my Pcs together
try Google (or Bing) or even YouTube
I dont have a crossover cable
I have a switch
@fahad for a light?
11:14 PM
Some of the more common ones are already answered, so search first before asking.
duplicates get closed very quickly
@PiersMyers heh we have a room setup just to post questions to be closed :)
I want to participate in this site
like a moderator or so
is it possible?
11:16 PM
@fahad PC 1 <-> cable <-> switch <-> cable <-> PC2
@fahad don't expect to be a mod soon as you join, don't expect to be a mod by asking.
Its just that im very much interested
do you have broadband? If so, would be good to get an ADSL router and use that to control your network. It can allocate IP addresses using DHCP
@fahad get involved by answering questions / flagging duplicates / flagging spam
my repo is just about 600
i have a local area connection
11:19 PM
I dont know what it is
Well, you'll in theory gain rep over time, and then you'll be able to do more. There's quite a lot you can do without being a ♦ mod
BTW how do you determine wheather it is broadband or dsl or something else?
I just know how to diffrentiate between a modem and a local area connection
DSL is broadband, broadband just means high-bandwidth. Whoever set up the internet connection would know
I have a cheap connection lol
11:22 PM
what would that be called?
I would call that "slow."
lol thats what i call it
@JamesMcNellis theoretically that's "broadband" as per our ( Indian) regulatory board
Broadband is the diffrence of max and min frequency on which it can work?
11:24 PM
The FCC has a technical definition of "broadband", but I don't remember what it is. I think it's closer to 1mbps
Oh sorry thats bandwidth?
I am really slow in getting concepts
but my aim is to be a perfect programmer
I have been working on C
11:29 PM
I'm somewhat confused. Why are people saying that unit testing questions should go to P.SE instead of SO? |:
I'm not sure there's such a thing called "perfect programmer"
@Sathya, there is. Her name is rchern.
err....wait... (;
@rchern If it were in beta I would say it goes to area51.stackexchange.com/proposals/8494/…
Although there's talk of merging that with programmers, so I guess maybe that's where people got the idea
@rchern: Because obviously unit testing is not programming related and is thus off-topic for Stack Overflow.
Oh wait.
They're certainly not off-topic on SO
@JamesMcNellis I blinked several times reading that :)
11:30 PM
It is the example used in the blog post
@rchern ;)
@Sathya there can be something like winning an award at ACM to be a good programmer
that would be morethan enough lol
11:31 PM
@fahad ACM ?
Seriously though. I don't get it.
The Association for Computing Machinery, or ACM, is a learned society for computing. It was founded in 1947 as the world's first scientific and educational computing society. Its membership is more than 92,000 as of 2009. Its headquarters are in New York City. Activities ACM is organized into over 170 local chapters and 35 Special Interest Groups (SIGs), through which it conducts most of its activities. Additionally, there are over 500 college and university chapters. The first student chapter was founded in 1961 at the University of Louisiana at Lafayette. Many of the SIGs, like S...
hmm nice
and there's 5600 questions o SO tagged [unit-testing]
@Sathya Automated Cash Machine
11:32 PM
@rchern Where do people say unit testing questions should go to programmers?
lol no
@MichaelMrozek i'm just reading the blog post and there've been several questions on meta about it iirc.
Can we ask hacking questions on the site?
i know its illegal but
11:34 PM
I think Jeff said that to annoy Roy Osherove
if you want to be a in a computer security team than you must know that
I think it's probably quite tough to get into computer security - or maybe they just employ the ex-hackers
So how to be a ex-hacker lol?
You need to first be a hacker?
@fahad one that gets caught
11:39 PM
you can do hacking for good purposes
I wanted to hack my own PC 2 days back
@fahad forgot your password eh?
@PiersMyers LOL
No i was interested to currupt the windows
so i can try it on my friends computers
11:41 PM
I was about to edit boot.ini
@fahad waitasec, that's hacking ?
yes or what?
anything annoying or evil is hacking
not really
11:42 PM
my brother's laptop won't boot
"a recent driver installation or upgrade may be preventing the system from starting"
i don't wanna deal with this lol
so what will we call what i did?
a bad prank
@rchern how come you have to sort your brothers computer out?
@rchern re-format it and install Ubuntu, see if he notices :)
Ubuntu is an OS?
yes, it's a flavour of Linux (based on UNIX)
11:46 PM
@fahad you're a swell hacker :)
its open source?
watch these 20 Hacker movies and you will learn everything you need to know: netforbeginners.about.com/od/hacking101/a/hackermovies.htm
No, OS does not stand for Open Source.
Linux is opensource
so should be UBunto
11:48 PM
if its a flavour
yes it is
it's a distribution @fahad
Open Source Operating System
someone told me Windows copies linux
i never installed linux so I dont have an idea
11:50 PM
Every OS gets inspired by competing OS's features.
if anything that's good for us.
Which OS do you prefer?
Windows 7™ Extreme Edition® R1
I would have installed Linux if i knew how to and if it had all the softwares i run on my windows xp
@TomWij lmao
Vista went worst?
11:52 PM
Vista's ok, I'm running Vista 64 bit at the moment and it's fine
64 bit means that its word size if 64?
yes, as opposed to 32 bit
means you can address much more memory
means its faster?
And registers, address buses, or data buses of that size.
Using Windows 7 Professional x64 here.
some native 64 bit apps are, but typically there is not much performance gain
the best gain you get is that you can have more than 4GB of RAM
11:55 PM
There is a performance gain...
Your Windows itself is 64 bit, any system calls will run 64 bit code.
You can increase the performance if your RAM is large
@fahad only upto a limit
More than half of your applications are running in 64 bit.
64 bit will be as 32 bit if the RAM is small?
No, adding more RAM does not always result in more performance.
11:56 PM
what's the point in having terabytes of RAM if the application uses only couple of megs
@TomWij less disk paging if you have more RAM
@Sathya You can have thousands of those applications in RAM simultaneously
@MichaelMrozek yes, true
The only thing that would differ with memory is the ability to use more memory and the code size being larger, but in general you don't need more RAM for 64 bit.
@PiersMyers: I have 4 GB of RAM of which about 1.5 GB is used now, my page file is disabled.
11:58 PM
What is the use of that 64 bit if there is no RAM to accept it?
I don't see how taking away 2 GB or adding 4 GB will have a difference in performance.
@fahad: Huh?
@TomWij try opening more applications like photoshop for example
Still no difference.
If your RAM is too small,what will you gain by 64 bit processor?

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