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16:13
Umm... @Oded.... I got in to dev.so :P
@UndotheSnowman - oh?
@Oded Yup. Is that really bad?
How did you manage it, if you don't mind me asking?
@Oded I went to a question link.
And it gave me the option to create an account with OpenID.
Aw man, Ghost of Winterbash Past?
16:16
Just the question link? No popup? @Undo
I suspect I should be able to earn that one easily..
@Oded Yup. Like this one.
(and I can still repro in Incognito.)
Thanks for reporting. Frankly, not a huge problem - it is our deployment environment for pushed code, plus all the stuff that is being developed and is turned on. Will see what we can do to close the hole (if we even want to). Thanks again, @undo
@Oded I just went to dev.stackoverflow.com and click "Sign in with Google" and it worked
It didn't link to my global profile though
@Oded No problem.
(thanks for not hitting me with a stick)
16:20
@ColeJohnson huh. Might be that it is no longer set as a private beta by mistake.
On another topic, does anyone know why a flash drive would still blink after "Ejecting"?
@ColeJohnson Does it have a battery?
If not, crush it because it's probably a bug from the NSA.
I guessed it was windows flushing the cache, but I have caching disabled on it
@Undo no. Just a plain 32 GB flash drive
Could it be flushing an internal cache? But that doesn't make sense
@Oded why would it not link to my global profile?
@ColeJohnson dev tier is dev. Your profile is on the prod tier.
We are going to close it up soon...
@Oded when It reaches production, would it merge with my global?
I've deleted my account, but for other betas, I'm wondering
Or are beta sites on the production tier, and Dev is a completely different thing
16:25
@ColeJohnson - we have deployment tiers as well as the private/public beta / graduated distinction. That one will never show up in SO and the other 110 production sites
Ok. But again, when a private beta goes public, would my accounts be merged, or are the merged on creation of a beta account? Am I clear?
Ah. Not sure. You should be able to create a normal account on a beta site - one that would be linked during creation.
That's what I was asking. I've never used a private/public beta site before, so I was just wondering because the Dev didn't. (Which I understand why now)
Thanks
I'd upvote you, but I cant
Quickly, ask on MSO
@Oded "too localized"
WUT
Nah. I'm fine. You have enough rep as it is. If you were minitech, that'd be a different story
Speaking of him, where has he been
16:32
Suspending spam-edit accepters most likely
He's around. I see him handling flags
But he never posts though. At least as far as I've seen
I don't look at every MSO post
True - not seen him post much recently
Anyone know anything on my flash drive though?
I'd post on SU, but I can't really provide any more detail than I've given, so it'd be closed
Err. on holded
enheld
16:37
This isn't the Medieval Ages
@ColeJohnson I recall when plug-and-pray was introduced in win95 that there where actually events that are raised before and after removal of the device. It could well be that your usb stick is blinking because the host is sending those after-the-fact events.
16:54
Hey @Bart, how'd you get that there hat?
By going the way of the Unicorn
searches mind for possibilities
@Bart More explanation? ;)
/me looks @Oded .... do we tell?
I you want... but do you actually know?
Using Google Translate is sooo fun on Br.SO.
> Your edit will be placed in a queue until it is examined by a specialist.
17:03
@Oded I had suspicions, but was not able to confirm those. It's just fun to mess with @UndotheSnowman.
heheh. Tell you what - share your suspicions... I shall not confirm nor deny them ;)
I thought it had something to do with me upvoting the question of someone who upvoted my answer.
Hmm...
@Bart Upvote something of mine :P
50
A: Handing back my mod diamond

Undo the SnowmanI, along with much of Meta, was surprised to find that you are leaving. Thank you. You have been a fine mod - way better than I could be. You worked out many of the problems that Stack Overflow had in the early days. Thank you for everything, Meta

^ There's a CW post
Pff, done a long time ago @UndotheSnowman
17:06
@Bart Sure... but does it have to happen within the WB timeframe?
I meant I already upvoted it
any body knows where is the srpitesheet for the rest of the hats ?
This answers : meta.stackoverflow.com/a/211872/174490 now has multi format hats and it feelsl... weird I would like to use the same size for all the hats and see the missing ones.
m
@Bart nice theory - but I haven't upboated any such answers
Surely the Jeff/CodingHorror one is for reporting a pluralization bug.
Should have been at least
@UndotheSnowman @ColeJohnson - can you try dev.so again?
17:15
So many bad questions on SO are getting upvoted because of these hats.. o.o ...
@Oded I'm logged in dev with my google id and can edit
@rene and if you log out? Can you get back in?
@Oded yep
@Oded Just a minute...
Yup, @Oded - locked up nice and tight now.
(as in I can't get in in incognito)
But... um... err...
After logging out...
@rene @undo - and now?
17:21
Does anyone here happen to know about SSL certificates? Specifically, if I buy it for a single domain, can I use it for multiple different ports on that domain, or only one?
after log out I see the front page
@animuson Multiple ports. Just bought one this morning.
@Oded - I can't get in in Incognito, but I can still run around after logging out in the window I was logged in in. Almost like a cookie didn't get cleared.
And I can log in from the old window.
There must be a cookie somewhere left over...
On a fresh browser I can't connect
17:24
logon doesn't work, brings me back on login tab
hmmmm
I also did log off from google in this session, to no effect
offline now?
Do I get a special hat for something for getting into Dev.so?
lol
Funny questions in dev.so
17:33
/me wishes someone would give him a hat for finding a glaring hole in the Dev site
Ok, to be clear: only in a webbrowser session where I was already logged in dev I can gain access. If I start a different browser I'm not allowed/not logged on, even not when I'logged in in production
Does it help if I come clear that I use IE11?
Can you still see stuff in that session? @rene @3ventic @undo?
If have two cookies in my IE11 session that I don't have on Chrome. devusr and rawr.dev2
17:42
@Oded Yup
Just made another edit, so yes
Just logged out and it took me to the front page. I can browse around and suggest edits and stuff.
@UndotheSnowman Maybe we should flag for moderator attention?
@rene Heh
I somehow only have 1 rep there.
I have the rep I had on june, 22th
17:45
@UndotheSnowman same session?
Clearing your cookies should do it
I just logged in and clicked log out again.... same result.
And I really don't want to clear my cookies, I like it in there :P
You'll have to suspend me :P
@Oded those two I mentioned?
@rene the devusr certainly. Not sure about the other one, but won't hurt.
17:52
Errr my page keeps saying I'm including content that's not secure. But all of my external resources are using a // path and the Network tab in my inspector says they were all loaded through https. so confused
@Oded That worked, I'm logged out and no longer able to logon
@animuson Is it live somewhere?
@animuson Chrome doesn't complain for me.
Am I suppose to see something other than a login prompt? If not, then ^
17:55
Weird. o.o
@rene Dank u wel
Oh I think I know what it is. I had all the resources cached in my browser from the previous certificate which had expired. Maybe it thinks the certificates don't match between the new one on the site and the old one on the resources? Is that possible?
@Oded geen probleem (en je hoeft geen u te zeggen)
:)
I know: I'll clear my cookies and be gone if you give me a diamond there and let me play with it for a few minutes ;)
(This is the part where Oded nukes me)
17:59
yeah. no.
@animuson "animuson"/"animuson" doesn't work.
I knew it ;)
@oded what about a diamond on the main site?
@ColeJohnson Hack away. The only thing you'll be able to see in there anyways is an anonymized list of accounts and a file browser... ;P It's mostly just non-functional layouts of what I want things to do.
@ColeJohnson Meh, I was trying to at least get something out of hacking in to the dev site :P
18:01
BTW - you should be gone now, @UndotheSnowman
I think I just got nuked ;(
I can still run around, though!
But I'll clear my cookies and be gone.
@ColeJohnson sure. Next election ;)
tries to find where Chrome keeps cookies
@UndotheSnowman is it really hacking when you sort of just ... sign in? ;)
@AnnaLear Well, I did have to put a little effort into it :P
i.e. find a question URL.
18:05
@UndotheSnowman F12 Resources Cookies, cherry pick the ones you want to get rid off
@rene I'm on OS X.
So?
@rene F12 no worky.
Developer tools?
Oh, duh.
Thanks ;)
18:06
Buy a decent keyboard
lol
@Oded Cleared, can't get in.
I shall now attempt to guess the password for dev.careers :P
Yep, what's next?
Whoa, there's a dev.internal!
(I really need to quit poking around in here)
Dev.internal.se? What
18:16
You have all been equally awarded and not awarded Schrödinger's Hat. Congratulations. That is all.
5
It's a community team private "beta"
Where did you come frome
@Undo where is that?
How do I stablilize the waveform so I can check whether I got this hat or not?
18:18
@ColeJohnson Meh, go to one of the dev.* sites (dev.so works well), and click the supercollider - multidropdown thingy.
The gay would be in a upper position of both states until you observe if you have it or not
It's mootinator!
@Undo I don't see it
Oh, so meta.dev.so is private beta in Portugese, but Dev.so isn't
mootinator returns to The Tavern to comment on @TinyTim's awful science joke.
@jadarnel27 your argument is moot
Punpunpun
18:20
I wonder...
Does dev.internal have an API key?
There's Dev.internal.se, but not internal.se
@jadarnel27 Who is this mootinator person?
@Undo find how to get in there
@TCPMAN.EXE yes
@jadarnel27 Clearly, you don't know the difference between awful and just terrible.
@ColeJohnson Exactly.
18:22
He is everywhere, but no where
@TCPMAN.EXE Some Canadian political activist.
He is everything, but nothing
He plays the Stanley Parable, he doesn't play the Stanley Parable
@jadarnel27 I returned to the tavern because I detected some doge.
Unrelated to moot of 4chan
@TCPMAN.EXE WOW
much funny here. very entertain.
18:23
Hey, @Oded (or whoever's available), could we have a private room? I found something that you probably don't want posted here.
Do you just have a bot that runs and scans for "doge"?
@Undo PM me
Through chat
@ColeJohnson Nope
@Undo heh heh
Heh heh heh
@Undo does it involve Dev.internal.se?
@ColeJohnson Maybe
yes
18:25
I need to know
I unclassify it
Yeah, I can basically see all of dev.internal.
@ColeJohnson Not going to say.
It works for all the dev.* sites.
Add bogus apikey?
Not that simple.
18:30
Then tell me
No.
I'll wait for a dev or someone to contact me.
test
@Oded 404
18:32
@ColeJohnson That's because it's private.
18:42
Installing SSL certificates can be a pain in the butt when your issuer gives you an invalid chain file...
ha!
'cause it isn't difficult enough as it is.
18:55
Today is stupid.
Why yes, yes it is
Cheer up guy
19:11
Fractal <3
^ What he said
John Scatman - Scatman (Au5, Savant, Fractal & Prismatic Remix)
Pure gold
Speaking of Savant, have you played his game?
much listen?
19:13
Never heard of it
I'll look at it when I get home
It's pretty neat. D-Pad studio developed it, if that means anything to you.
It's dirt cheap too.
I remember finding him when he had like 150 followers
@ColeJohnson This is sick
@ElfSlice look up Popeska. Again, found him when he was nothing
@ColeJohnson This guy is really ravey
20:03
I'm having trouble knowing when to just bail on this freelance web project.
Freelancing is scary
I emailed the client, and she responds saying she'll get back to me soon. Then I wait a week, and check back. Same thing.
@jadarnel27 Yikes
Right? Actually, I looked back and she said "I'll get back to you tomorrow."
And that was six days ago.
@jadarnel27 When was that?
Is this a prospective client, or is the project already underway?
20:08
It's sort of underway. I already did some work for her, which she paid me for. And then I specced out the rest of the job, with target dates and junk, and asked for her approval.
I just don't want to get started until she clears that we're on the same page about everything.
Oh. Huh. Well, I mean it's up to you. I might wait a bit longer and see what the deal is.
Unless you already have some other work lined up
If you do, take that and tell her to get back to you later when she's ready.
Well, I have a full time job. So this is just side work, @ElfSlice.
Although I like the sound of that "get back to me later when you're ready" line.
@jadarnel27 Your hat is too blue. It needs more brown.
Agreed. I need that fedora that balpha showed me.
I haven't looked at the new hats I got. Are they brown?
Stupid hat nonsense doesn't work in trash garbage IE8.
I get a generic "script error" at line 0, char 0 of the WinterBash2013 core.js file when I click the hat count on my profile page.
Clearly because IE8 is not brown enough.
20:23
Haha, yes. Obviously.
Buh-rown.
20:38
Woohoo my SSL works. ^_^
laughs at people
20:58
That wasn't as bad as people say it is. You know, aside from the invalid chain file, installing was pretty simple.
21:11
Have Android app invites stopped? Based on a previous chat message I was expecting an invite several weeks ago.
@Duncan we're still inviting people in batches.
@AnnaLear How many a week?
@AnnaLear Has the batch size changed? I don't mind if I have to wait, but I'm starting to wonder if my invite has gone missing, or I'm too dumb to spot it somewhere.
@hichris123 no idea
@Duncan I'll check.
@Duncan You were invited on Sept 9 and then again on Nov 13.
@Duncan The invites were sent to the same email you have as your contact address on SO. Check your spam folder?
21:29
@AnnaLear Can you check for me?
@hichris123 You're still on the list, invites go out in small batches every few weeks or so.
You should be in the next batch that goes out.
Thank you, @Kasra
@anna Just got my invite, no idea why that one worked. Thanks for checking for me.
np :)
22:02
:o Someone reviewed all the flags!
@animuson How much do you want more?
prepares flagger gizmo
@animuson George Stocker
Heh, same here @Jin. For a moment I wondered how he was layering multiple hats.
@UndotheSnowman There's currently a big fat 1 up there.
Hmm...
Your delete button must be getting bored?
22:06
Now start with the Close Vote queue.
That's not empty...
@animuson You should go through all 106K items today.
Best approach is just to wait until the counter wraps around @hichris123.
@Bart What point is that? What number will overflow it?
When the number of items in the queue is larger than the amount of questions on the site.
Which is when cows can fly.
We just need some duct tape.
22:11
If you manage to solve it with that, you'd probably get a MacGyver hat.
That's how I solved the problem of having too many boxes in my room...
I taped them all together so it was just one convenient thing to carry.
Is this your wonderful childhood again?
I just did this a couple weeks ago.
You know, it seems like you have too much time on your hands.
Nonsense! I only have Monday thru Friday off work every week!
22:17
That's an outrage! Do you have no worker rights over there?
@Bart hint for the unicorn hat?
@Mr.PeanutMonopolyMcManish No use. I've already tried to pry it out of him.
I'll share it with you when @UndotheSnowman is gone @Mr.PeanutMonopolyMcManish
I think I know what it means, but there are too many variations
Grrrr
leaves
22:18
Stop looking at the transcript @UndotheSnowman
@UndotheSnowman I can see you peering through the transcript!
Exactly
Nah, but I don't know. I had some sort of a hunch, but Oded said nope
Oded got it on SO without posting anything
"I see your point"
returns from transcript-land
Must mean upvoting what you wouldn't have in the past
22:20
Yeah, I don't think it's necessarily related to posting anything. Or at least not during the winterbash.
Maybe reversing a downvote?
@UndotheSnowman as if I'd do that
analyzes Bart's activity on Stack Overflow
unhappy with @animuson's unfair advantage
22:22
It's not like I have much more information than you.
/me hides evidence of sock-puppets, rude comments and random smiting
At least nothing that's useful from the past two days.
Maybe it has to do with receiving a mod message for unfair smiting.
Smiting is at most random. It's never unfair.
Unwarranted smiting?
22:23
The fact that your name appears 1,000,000 times more than any other user is just coincidence.
We need a hat for extreme flagging.
There should be a hat for getting flagged
A hat for being told to slow down your flagging by a disgruntled moderator.
4
What about a hat for getting banned?
that would be great except that getting banned disqualifies you.
22:27
Only temporarily
@ElfSlice That's called the "emperor's new hat". You can enjoy it, but nobody sees it.
Heh
Hey, I haven't even been banned for a couple weeks now.
I'm on a roll.
Oded has no votes today
@Bart Did you close or reopen vote anything today?
Or retract a vote?
Reopen? Retract? Are you mad!?! I did vote to close though.
22:38
@Bart Many questions or a few?
I'm considering the possibility though that it's not so much about you performing an action. Rather other users doing so
A couple
not many
The problem with that theory is that most of the people who should really have received it didn't.
@Bart Maybe it has to do with meta?
There was a hat last year that was earned on main for actions on meta
Hmm, I don't really see what could have caused it.
Let's check some other users with the same hat
22:43
Why can't hats on meta just be used on main?
Who else has it?
Not found anyone else yet
@animuson Oded and Hampton
All are active Meta users, but not main
@ColeJohnson They can
Hats can be used on any site
@Bart Did you do any strange meta voting?
Define strange
Um... Something that might have to do with conceding an argument
22:51
@Bart oh duh
There's a bunch of upvotes @Mr.PeanutMonopolyMcManish. Nothing that stands out though. A single downvote, but that's much later. Bunch of close votes as well
oh duh? @ColeJohnson
Hmm, annoying. So at the end of my evening I can conclude that my collision detection doesn't work, nor do I know what gave me the hat. Yeah, I'll sleep just fine.
Oh duh.
Yes.
What? How? Where?
Squirrel?

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