Tavern on the Meta

1:36 AM

I keep getting "Too many requests" errors. I'm sending my auth cookies with the request so the system should know that I'm already logged in and that this is a legitimate user account... Is there any discussion of whitelisting logged in and established users from this check, since they're clearly not the ones who are making all the excessive connections?

It doesn't help that each SE site is on its own subdomain and Tor Browser uses a different exit for different subdomains.

soupless

2:42 AM

Today, I learned that "Visited x days, y consecutive" is clickable.

Mithical

6:30 AM

@soupless The feature had been removed for a while and was only recently reintroduced.

soupless

8:01 AM

@Mithical Shouldn't it be in a different color since it's clickable?

Shadow Wizard Says No More War

8:13 AM

@Mithical yeah, at first the developer just assumed it's useless and nobody ever using it, and only after Meta Uproar he realized people actually using and liking it, and I'm really really very much surprised it's back. Very rare case.

Usually it's "What's done is done, deal with it". (maybe not with direct words, but they just never revert changes.)

@soupless no because it's not HTML link, it's action button.

Buttons never change color after being clicked once.

Guess they can, but that would be really terrible.

@M.A.R. K

@forestdistrustsStackExchange you might have some browser extension doing it, seen case of "innocent" userscript that fetched the vote counts (up/down) for users with low rep, it was bugged in a way that sent thousands of requests instead of one, resulting in IP ban.

(think I already told I don't like userscripts ;))

M.A.R.

@ShadowWizardSaysNoMoreWar no

@soupless I'm sure you get this a lot, but you need more soup

Journeyman Geek

@M.A.R. maybe @soupless is @soupless cause @soupless drank all the soup...

M.A.R.

8:29 AM

That defense will not hold in the court of law

Shadow Wizard Says No More War

@M.A.R. that message isn't a report

@M.A.R. chicken?

M.A.R.

@ShadowWizardSaysNoMoreWar alive

Journeyman Geek

@M.A.R. OBJECTION! THERE IS NO SOUP!

M.A.R.

@ShadowWizardSaysNoMoreWar no u

Shadow Wizard Says No More War

@M.A.R. sometimes

@JourneymanGeek wasn't @Meta once a soup? When Norm was meatballs?

Journeyman Geek

8:31 AM

lol

I don't keep track?

Shadow Wizard Says No More War

They were awesome couple.

Journeyman Geek

I've had the same nickname for like

10 years

other than one april fools day joke

Shadow Wizard Says No More War

I'm Shadow forever.

Ever since my first chat, somewhere in 2000.

M.A.R.

@JourneymanGeek the teachings of souphia, goddess of soup, indicate there is always soup

You have to look to the world with soupy eyes

Shadow Wizard Says No More War

@M.A.R. you have chicken on your face.

Journeyman Geek

8:33 AM

soupy eyes.. you need to see a doctor

M.A.R.

@ShadowWizardSaysNoMoreWar ur momma makes good chicken soup

Which is why she's fat

Journeyman Geek

@ShadowWizardSaysNoMoreWar BEHOLD! A MAN

M.A.R.

It's "amen" you heretic

Shadow Wizard Says No More War

noooooo

I was.... mis.... mistaken....

Dec 30, 2016 at 17:45, by user315433

Don't remember meatballs. I was soup and sandwich.

M.A.R.

You had the one job

ONE

Shadow Wizard Says No More War

8:35 AM

@M.A.R. actually she does!! All family always looking up to eat it every second Saturday. :D

Luuklag

o/

Shadow Wizard Says No More War

When you arrive you're welcome to join!

Journeyman Geek

@M.A.R. Software engineer?

M.A.R.

Good noon Luk

@JourneymanGeek soup

Luuklag

@M.A.R. 09:35.... Bit early for lunch

Shadow Wizard Says No More War

8:35 AM

@M.A.R. she was!! But she no longer is. She can't be, doctors don't allow it. :D

M.A.R.

It's not my fault Europeans are behind the times

Shadow Wizard Says No More War

10:36 here

Luuklag

@M.A.R. ermm I think were exactly on time, and you're ahead ;)

M.A.R.

@Luuklag thank you, I'll take that as a compliment

Luuklag

@M.A.R. show off ;)

Shadow Wizard Says No More War

8:37 AM

@JourneymanGeek of course. @M.A.R stands for MAn Robot

Mostly man, bit of a robot as well. :D

M.A.R.

Show of superiority, of course

@ShadowWizardSaysNoMoreWar Processing . . .

Shadow Wizard Says No More War

using a new magnet to prove @M.A.R has robotic parts

M.A.R.

@ShadowWizardSaysNoMoreWar Result: NO U

Shadow Wizard Says No More War

beep

M.A.R.

horrifically torn to shreds, mechanical parts everywhere

Shadow Wizard Says No More War

8:41 AM

Bets when this staff member will get staff indicator?

I say 128 days.

Journeyman Geek

@ShadowWizardSaysNoMoreWar we need a better way to nag about this than individual meta posts

but that works

Shadow Wizard Says No More War

No worry not going to post on Meta, as no risk of hacking in this case.

Rare case of SE staff with two accounts, though can't find his other account.

Journeyman Geek

@ShadowWizardSaysNoMoreWar maybe on purpose dun dun duuuuuun

Luuklag

@ShadowWizardSaysNoMoreWar perhaps he doesnt have one on MSE yet, only on SO?

Shadow Wizard Says No More War

hmm, good point, Mr. Luuk ;)

Journeyman Geek

8:44 AM

also, tbh, that actually sounds like not a bad idea if you wanted to make sure what you did as staff was clearly done as staff and not in the times before and after

Shadow Wizard Says No More War

hmm well he's not using his real name in the other account so can't find it on SO. :(

@JourneymanGeek well, sadly he wants to merge anyway, but probably merge is a very slow process. ;)

Journeyman Geek

@ShadowWizardSaysNoMoreWar or needs someone with access to the big red button (tm)

Luuklag

He is a legit staff member: stackoverflow.blog/author/bmatthews

according to his linkedIn already since aug '19

Shadow Wizard Says No More War

@JourneymanGeek didn't Nick ~~steal~~ borrow it when leaving SE?

:P

Journeyman Geek

naw

Actually I don't think Nick had it

I know balpha did

Shadow Wizard Says No More War

8:50 AM

hmm

IMO all "first generation" devs had access to it.

@Luuklag I know he his, that's not the case this time, just lack of any indication he's really staff member, even when SE does have such feature.

SPArcheon

@ShadowWizardSaysNoMoreWar to be fair it is not that random... You end up having TWO accounts with two sets of credentials that both work.

Now, each set was originally tied to one of the two separate users that were merged. Depending on which set you use, you get the chat account that was originally associated with that user.

If the user is the "main" merge target... you get a chat user that still works.

If the credentials were tied to one of the child users...you get the "Ghost of Winterbash Past" accounts.

Shadow Wizard Says No More War

9:09 AM

@SPArcheon ohh, OK.

/cc @Smitop

Luuklag

9:45 AM

still up, if anyone has a flag to spare ˆ

soupless

@JourneymanGeek I really want to change my name to something that seems like a part of a sentence (don't know what that is called). Something like for-the-love-of-Shadow or no-offense-but

Journeyman Geek

lol

Luuklag

@soupless yo-mamma-is-so

soupless

Using it would be like "@fortheloveofShadow Please refrain from posting 40 messages at a time here in chat" or "@nooffensebut Your contributions to the site are odd"

@Luuklag That would be odd. "@yomammaisso Do you remember this?" That's grammatically incorrect.

I think it's a clause, the username.

I forgot to include the hyphens

I haven't made significant contributions here in Meta, so I still have a chance to change it

Meta Andrew T.

@ShadowWizardSaysNoMoreWar close enough, you got it reversed though :p

Shadow Wizard Says No More War

9:51 AM

@soupless I don't think ping removes hyphens

Time to use my sock!

(no @M.A.R, not for this.)

soupless

Changed it.

@ShadowWizardSaysNoMoreWar Can you try pinging me again? With some content, please.

Meta Andrew T.

@soupless your old chat name is still cached though, wait until the cache has been kicked

soupless

@MetaAndrewT. Hmm. What is the estimated duration, if I may ask?

Is this related to the data from SEDE?

Shadow-of-the-Shadow's-Shadow

hello world

Shadow Wizard Says No More War

@Shadow-of-the-Shadow's-Shadow hello sock

soupless

9:56 AM

spam eggs

Shadow Wizard Says No More War

Yup they are kept, ping only remove spaces.

@soupless up to one hour, nobody knows how it really works.

Some claim that posting in chat clears the cache, but you're proof that's false.

The only one that knows is no longer working for SE, it's balpha.

soupless

@ShadowWizardSaysNoMoreWar Maybe I should change it again to as-I-am-a-counterexample. Just kidding

Shadow Wizard Says No More War

Careful, after the 15 minutes grace period you won't be able to change for 30 days. ;)

@MetaAndrewT. oh lol

@soup maybe silly, but try visiting your chat profile, maybe it will kick the cache

Journeyman Geek

I'll kick

Meta Andrew T.

Meta Andrew T. has been kicked out from the Tavern

Shadow Wizard Says No More War

10:02 AM

hehe

Poor cache

for-the-love-of-soupless

@ShadowWizardSaysNoMoreWar It's the new one.

Journeyman Geek

@for-the-love-of-soupless mods have ways to get it to update

for-the-love-of-soupless

Huh? So which was the cause?

Shadow Wizard Says No More War

@for-the-love-of-soupless yeah, it was reset by our beloved mod here. ;-)

@for-the-love-of-soupless no cause, there is really server side cache of the chat profile, which can last up to one hour, unless moderator force it to synch.

Without mod can take anywhere between few seconds to one hour. With my sock it was few seconds, but don't think it's something I did.

So, your display name call people to support those who have no soup? That's very noble cause. :P

for-the-love-of-soupless

@ShadowWizardSaysNoMoreWar I'm posting this on Conspiracy.SE. "Do mods force the system to change our data?"

Shadow Wizard Says No More War

10:08 AM

@for-the-love-of-soupless sure, go ahead!

voting to close Conspiracy.SE as off topic

for-the-love-of-soupless

Unless the mods wanted to. Or I am a mod myself.

Shadow Wizard Says No More War

Secret mod is always a pleasure.

Journeyman Geek

@for-the-love-of-soupless unless the system is really controlling the mods. With psycoactive soup

for-the-love-of-soupless

@JourneymanGeek or maybe you are controlled by the system to say that. Who knows? Maybe I am too

Journeyman Geek

@for-the-love-of-soupless unless that's what the system wants you to think

for-the-love-of-soupless

10:14 AM

@JourneymanGeek Unless I am the system.

Journeyman Geek

Or the system wants you to think you are the system

Shadow Wizard Says No More War

status-endless-loop-detected

for-the-love-of-soupless

@ShadowWizardSaysNoMoreWar Unless you are the endless loop.

Shadow Wizard Says No More War

I'm the one who can End any Loop

Luuklag

10:44 AM

Exit For

Tinkeringbell

_throw _error

Shadow Wizard Says No More War

catch (ParrotException pe)

console.log('Shadow going to buy lunch');

tripleee

flag-pls spam returning spammer vegetarianism.stackexchange.com/a/2505

Luuklag

11:07 AM

@tripleee -6 but no poof

tripleee

we will get there eventually (-:

Shadow Wizard Says No More War

12:06 PM

Gone by now.

@trip where did the spammer return from?

Luuklag

@ShadowWizardSaysNoMoreWar the grave, it's a zombie

M.A.R.

@ShadowWizardSaysNoMoreWar thank you for not pinging me

The things our friends don't do for us

sniffs

I love you guys! breaks down crying

Tinkeringbell

... creep ...

Luuklag

hey parrot

M.A.R.

@Tinkeringbell baffled look hnuh?

Tinkeringbell

12:16 PM

@Luuklag hey geometric purple pattern....

M.A.R.

Oh, I don't play mimenraft handkerchief

Did @soup change their username?

Tinkeringbell

@M.A.R. You don't go shouting 'I love you guys!' to random strangers in (semi-)public spaces without being a creep :P

M.A.R.

It's okay, this is a sitcom

tripleee

@ShadowWizardSaysNoMoreWar it just means we have seen spam for the same domain in the past

Shadow Wizard Says No More War

@Luuklag oh no, we need Zombie Slayer! @M.A.R where did you put Buffy?

@M.A.R. did you just sniff @Shadow-of-the-Shadow's-Shadow, my sock?

:D

@Tinkeringbell different kind of Love

@tripleee oh, so might be different spammer, just spamming the same spam.

Tinkeringbell

12:34 PM

@ShadowWizardSaysNoMoreWar As far as I'm concerned, there's only 1 true scientific definition :P

tripleee

@ShadowWizardSaysNoMoreWar theoretiicaly yes, but how likely is that?

Tinkeringbell

The rest is just theories prompted by such chemical (im)balances :P

M.A.R.

@ShadowWizardSaysNoMoreWar no way! anxiously looking for handkerchief to confirm

. . .

That explained the smell

Shadow Wizard Says No More War

@Tinkeringbell you're in love with love!

:P

M.A.R.

My mostrils have shramk in horror

Tinkeringbell

12:36 PM

@ShadowWizardSaysNoMoreWar That's almost crazy enough to suit me, yes.

Shadow Wizard Says No More War

@tripleee well if one spammer is deleted, very likely other will come to replace them...

tripleee

@ShadowWizardSaysNoMoreWar we routinely assume that each spammer registers new accounts here as required

M.A.R.

@tripleee if one head is cut off, two more shall take its place

Shadow Wizard Says No More War

@M.A.R. the "n" became "m", which means it expanded, so it proves you liked it. :D

M.A.R.

"Spammer" is insensitive. You should replace it with "advertisingly challenged".

Shadow Wizard Says No More War

12:38 PM

Well my socks smell good, for a while.

M.A.R.

That's when they're the least radioactive.

Shadow Wizard Says No More War

@M.A.R. accepted

tripleee

we sometimes abbreviate that to "morally and intellectually challenged" but that's a mouthful

M.A.R.

You can tell by the glow.

@tripleee you could say "not army" because those guys spam with impunity

Shadow Wizard Says No More War

@M.A.R. the glow is from the inside, when excited my toes glow. Isn't it common?

M.A.R.

12:40 PM

Only in Chernobyl

Shadow Wizard Says No More War

oops

So now I finally know where I was really born.

:D

Shadow Wizard Says No More War

12:57 PM

~~Took~~ Found a picture of my toes

@M.A.R. :D

Tinkeringbell

Only four toes?!

Shadow Wizard Says No More War

@Tinkeringbell Chernobyl, duh

Lucky it's not 6

Tinkeringbell

Shouldn't that mean 6 toes then? :P

XD

Too slow

Shadow Wizard Says No More War

:P

I'd choose different color but meh, that goes too. ;)

M.A.R.

@ShadowWizardSaysNoMoreWar you look fake man, welcome to the 21st century

@Tinkeringbell no I think one toe is shaped like a huge claw besides his ankle like those vicious little dinosaurs . . . Dinonycus or something like that

Deinonychus

Shadow Wizard Says No More War

1:12 PM

Actually I do have overlapping toes problem IRL ;)

Sometimes the toes just, well, overlap.

Feeds

2:20 PM

How sharding a database can make it faster

Guest Post on March 14, 2022

Sharding was one of the first ways databases were distributed to improve performance. Recent innovations have made it one of the best.

Kevin B

🚽

Shadow Wizard Says No More War

🚽

Tinkeringbell

2:35 PM

🚽

Shadow Wizard Says No More War

@Feeds onebox is good but before sharding databases maybe tell us more important things, like what happened to SE couple of days ago? Thanks!

Kevin B

it's just another "hey i'm the CXO of X and i'm here to talk about this thing X solves!"

Tinkeringbell

It's always about what X solves, but never the side effects (the problems it creates)

Kevin B

embarrasing

Tinkeringbell

Software should come with those long lists, like medicines... of all the possible side effects XD

Shadow Wizard Says No More War

2:55 PM

So now SE "shard" their DB, and has another excuse when things break.

> Sharding. It's always sharding.

Great.

As if it's not complex enough already.

Kevin B

3:11 PM

i'd rather the blog cut out guest posting entirely. Fill the void with in-house content about what you're doing in-house to improve the public network

Shadow Wizard Says No More War

@KevinB well it's not really guest post it's just another onebox bug.

Author even has account on SO:

Juan Pan, Beijing, China

1 1

antlr4

When onebox isn't failing, it just show "guest post".

Kevin B

?

it's a post from not staff

it's a guest post

it's a post to promote a 3rd party product that isn't SO

Shadow Wizard Says No More War

@KevinB ohh, but I'm 100000% sure onebox isn't smart enough to tell author isn't staff.

It's borked.

Kevin B

i honestly wasn't commening about the onebox's "guest post" bit, didn't see that till you pointed it out

Shadow Wizard Says No More War

oh lol

Well it's not new blog is actually ads platform. Always was.

Journeyman Geek

3:33 PM

lol

Not always

Kevin B

4:09 PM

There was a time where it was used to talk about the platform itself primarily, but that was of course while the platform itself was all that existed and was actively being worked on

now days... it seems even when the platform is being actively worked on, the specifics are kept secret until it's launched

can't be having codeaddict stealing ideas i guess

or yahoo answers

Shadow Wizard Says No More War

4:27 PM

@KevinB Yahoo has nothing to steal

They're like an empty, crumbling, house.

Big, but nothing there.

Kevin B

(exactly)

M.A.R.

5:16 PM

@JourneymanGeek oh boy here we go again

Wheelchair: A Meta Story

Luuklag

9:09 PM

2

A: Periodic outages again?

We were hit by a DDoS attack. While the attack itself was mitigated by our systems, the conditions set off a series of errors that managed to uncover an edge case in one of our backend systems. It took several hours for us to identify the issue because the errors only manifested themselves once a...

forest distrusts StackExchange

10:30 PM

> We were hit by a DDoS attack. While the attack itself was mitigated by our systems, the conditions set off a series of errors that managed to uncover an edge case in one of our backend systems.

huh

forest distrusts StackExchange

10:44 PM

Does reloading your own post cause the view count to go up? It seems to do that for me from time to time, which I don't think is intended.

Journeyman Geek

it might?

forest distrusts StackExchange

huh

It's certainly not consistent. If I refresh 20 times, it doesn't go up by 20 (only the first 5 or so?).

And it appears that I have to wait several seconds before the next refresh increments the count.

Although it doesn't matter for most posts, it's frustrating when I have a question with 17 views and I know a maximum of 11 of them were not me.

PM 2Ring

11:56 PM

@forestdistrustsStackExchange The good news: the attack didn't break through our shields. The bad news: the vibrations caused our house to fall apart.

forest distrusts StackExchange

You need MIL-STD walls.

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