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01:36
I keep getting "Too many requests" errors. I'm sending my auth cookies with the request so the system should know that I'm already logged in and that this is a legitimate user account... Is there any discussion of whitelisting logged in and established users from this check, since they're clearly not the ones who are making all the excessive connections?
It doesn't help that each SE site is on its own subdomain and Tor Browser uses a different exit for different subdomains.
 
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02:42
Today, I learned that "Visited x days, y consecutive" is clickable.
 
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06:30
@soupless The feature had been removed for a while and was only recently reintroduced.
 
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08:01
@Mithical Shouldn't it be in a different color since it's clickable?
08:13
@Mithical yeah, at first the developer just assumed it's useless and nobody ever using it, and only after Meta Uproar he realized people actually using and liking it, and I'm really really very much surprised it's back. Very rare case.
Usually it's "What's done is done, deal with it". (maybe not with direct words, but they just never revert changes.)
@soupless no because it's not HTML link, it's action button.
Buttons never change color after being clicked once.
Guess they can, but that would be really terrible.
@M.A.R. K
@forestdistrustsStackExchange you might have some browser extension doing it, seen case of "innocent" userscript that fetched the vote counts (up/down) for users with low rep, it was bugged in a way that sent thousands of requests instead of one, resulting in IP ban.
(think I already told I don't like userscripts ;))
@ShadowWizardSaysNoMoreWar no
@soupless I'm sure you get this a lot, but you need more soup
@M.A.R. maybe @soupless is @soupless cause @soupless drank all the soup...
08:29
That defense will not hold in the court of law
@M.A.R. that message isn't a report
@M.A.R. chicken?
@ShadowWizardSaysNoMoreWar alive
@M.A.R. OBJECTION! THERE IS NO SOUP!
@ShadowWizardSaysNoMoreWar no u
@M.A.R. sometimes
@JourneymanGeek wasn't @Meta once a soup? When Norm was meatballs?
08:31
lol
I don't keep track?
They were awesome couple.
I've had the same nickname for like
10 years
other than one april fools day joke
I'm Shadow forever.
Ever since my first chat, somewhere in 2000.
@JourneymanGeek the teachings of souphia, goddess of soup, indicate there is always soup
You have to look to the world with soupy eyes
@M.A.R. you have chicken on your face.
08:33
soupy eyes.. you need to see a doctor
@ShadowWizardSaysNoMoreWar ur momma makes good chicken soup
Which is why she's fat
@ShadowWizardSaysNoMoreWar BEHOLD! A MAN
It's "amen" you heretic
noooooo
I was.... mis.... mistaken....
Dec 30, 2016 at 17:45, by user315433
Don't remember meatballs. I was soup and sandwich.
You had the one job
ONE
08:35
@M.A.R. actually she does!! All family always looking up to eat it every second Saturday. :D
When you arrive you're welcome to join!
@M.A.R. Software engineer?
Good noon Luk
@JourneymanGeek soup
@M.A.R. 09:35.... Bit early for lunch
08:35
@M.A.R. she was!! But she no longer is. She can't be, doctors don't allow it. :D
It's not my fault Europeans are behind the times
@M.A.R. ermm I think were exactly on time, and you're ahead ;)
@Luuklag thank you, I'll take that as a compliment
@M.A.R. show off ;)
08:37
@JourneymanGeek of course. @M.A.R stands for MAn Robot
Mostly man, bit of a robot as well. :D
Show of superiority, of course
@ShadowWizardSaysNoMoreWar Processing . . .
using a new magnet to prove @M.A.R has robotic parts
@ShadowWizardSaysNoMoreWar Result: NO U
horrifically torn to shreds, mechanical parts everywhere
08:41
Bets when this staff member will get staff indicator?
I say 128 days.
@ShadowWizardSaysNoMoreWar we need a better way to nag about this than individual meta posts
but that works
No worry not going to post on Meta, as no risk of hacking in this case.
Rare case of SE staff with two accounts, though can't find his other account.
@ShadowWizardSaysNoMoreWar maybe on purpose dun dun duuuuuun
@ShadowWizardSaysNoMoreWar perhaps he doesnt have one on MSE yet, only on SO?
hmm, good point, Mr. Luuk ;)
08:44
also, tbh, that actually sounds like not a bad idea if you wanted to make sure what you did as staff was clearly done as staff and not in the times before and after
hmm well he's not using his real name in the other account so can't find it on SO. :(
@JourneymanGeek well, sadly he wants to merge anyway, but probably merge is a very slow process. ;)
@ShadowWizardSaysNoMoreWar or needs someone with access to the big red button (tm)
He is a legit staff member: stackoverflow.blog/author/bmatthews
according to his linkedIn already since aug '19
@JourneymanGeek didn't Nick steal borrow it when leaving SE?
:P
naw
Actually I don't think Nick had it
I know balpha did
08:50
hmm
IMO all "first generation" devs had access to it.
@Luuklag I know he his, that's not the case this time, just lack of any indication he's really staff member, even when SE does have such feature.
@ShadowWizardSaysNoMoreWar to be fair it is not that random... You end up having TWO accounts with two sets of credentials that both work.
Now, each set was originally tied to one of the two separate users that were merged. Depending on which set you use, you get the chat account that was originally associated with that user.
If the user is the "main" merge target... you get a chat user that still works.
If the credentials were tied to one of the child users...you get the "Ghost of Winterbash Past" accounts.
09:09
@SPArcheon ohh, OK.
/cc @Smitop
09:45
still up, if anyone has a flag to spare ˆ
@JourneymanGeek I really want to change my name to something that seems like a part of a sentence (don't know what that is called). Something like for-the-love-of-Shadow or no-offense-but
@soupless yo-mamma-is-so
Using it would be like "@fortheloveofShadow Please refrain from posting 40 messages at a time here in chat" or "@nooffensebut Your contributions to the site are odd"
@Luuklag That would be odd. "@yomammaisso Do you remember this?" That's grammatically incorrect.
I think it's a clause, the username.
I forgot to include the hyphens
I haven't made significant contributions here in Meta, so I still have a chance to change it
@ShadowWizardSaysNoMoreWar close enough, you got it reversed though :p
09:51
@soupless I don't think ping removes hyphens
Time to use my sock!
(no @M.A.R, not for this.)
Changed it.
@ShadowWizardSaysNoMoreWar Can you try pinging me again? With some content, please.
@soupless your old chat name is still cached though, wait until the cache has been kicked
@MetaAndrewT. Hmm. What is the estimated duration, if I may ask?
Is this related to the data from SEDE?
@Shadow-of-the-Shadow's-Shadow hello sock
09:56
spam eggs
Yup they are kept, ping only remove spaces.
@soupless up to one hour, nobody knows how it really works.
Some claim that posting in chat clears the cache, but you're proof that's false.
The only one that knows is no longer working for SE, it's balpha.
@ShadowWizardSaysNoMoreWar Maybe I should change it again to as-I-am-a-counterexample. Just kidding
Careful, after the 15 minutes grace period you won't be able to change for 30 days. ;)
@MetaAndrewT. oh lol
@soup maybe silly, but try visiting your chat profile, maybe it will kick the cache
I'll kick
Meta Andrew T. has been kicked out from the Tavern
10:02
hehe
Poor cache
@ShadowWizardSaysNoMoreWar It's the new one.
@for-the-love-of-soupless mods have ways to get it to update
Huh? So which was the cause?
@for-the-love-of-soupless yeah, it was reset by our beloved mod here. ;-)
@for-the-love-of-soupless no cause, there is really server side cache of the chat profile, which can last up to one hour, unless moderator force it to synch.
Without mod can take anywhere between few seconds to one hour. With my sock it was few seconds, but don't think it's something I did.
So, your display name call people to support those who have no soup? That's very noble cause. :P
@ShadowWizardSaysNoMoreWar I'm posting this on Conspiracy.SE. "Do mods force the system to change our data?"
10:08
@for-the-love-of-soupless sure, go ahead!
voting to close Conspiracy.SE as off topic
Unless the mods wanted to. Or I am a mod myself.
Secret mod is always a pleasure.
@for-the-love-of-soupless unless the system is really controlling the mods. With psycoactive soup
@JourneymanGeek or maybe you are controlled by the system to say that. Who knows? Maybe I am too
@for-the-love-of-soupless unless that's what the system wants you to think
10:14
@JourneymanGeek Unless I am the system.
Or the system wants you to think you are the system
status-endless-loop-detected
@ShadowWizardSaysNoMoreWar Unless you are the endless loop.
I'm the one who can End any Loop
10:44
Exit For
_throw _error
catch (ParrotException pe)
console.log('Shadow going to buy lunch');
11:07
@tripleee -6 but no poof
we will get there eventually (-:
12:06
Gone by now.
@trip where did the spammer return from?
@ShadowWizardSaysNoMoreWar the grave, it's a zombie
@ShadowWizardSaysNoMoreWar thank you for not pinging me
The things our friends don't do for us
sniffs
I love you guys! breaks down crying
... creep ...
hey parrot
@Tinkeringbell baffled look hnuh?
12:16
@Luuklag hey geometric purple pattern....
Oh, I don't play mimenraft handkerchief
Did @soup change their username?
@M.A.R. You don't go shouting 'I love you guys!' to random strangers in (semi-)public spaces without being a creep :P
It's okay, this is a sitcom
@ShadowWizardSaysNoMoreWar it just means we have seen spam for the same domain in the past
@Luuklag oh no, we need Zombie Slayer! @M.A.R where did you put Buffy?
@M.A.R. did you just sniff @Shadow-of-the-Shadow's-Shadow, my sock?
:D
@Tinkeringbell different kind of Love
@tripleee oh, so might be different spammer, just spamming the same spam.
12:34
@ShadowWizardSaysNoMoreWar As far as I'm concerned, there's only 1 true scientific definition :P
@ShadowWizardSaysNoMoreWar theoretiicaly yes, but how likely is that?
The rest is just theories prompted by such chemical (im)balances :P
@ShadowWizardSaysNoMoreWar no way! anxiously looking for handkerchief to confirm
. . .
That explained the smell
@Tinkeringbell you're in love with love!
:P
My mostrils have shramk in horror
12:36
@ShadowWizardSaysNoMoreWar That's almost crazy enough to suit me, yes.
@tripleee well if one spammer is deleted, very likely other will come to replace them...
@ShadowWizardSaysNoMoreWar we routinely assume that each spammer registers new accounts here as required
@tripleee if one head is cut off, two more shall take its place
@M.A.R. the "n" became "m", which means it expanded, so it proves you liked it. :D
"Spammer" is insensitive. You should replace it with "advertisingly challenged".
12:38
Well my socks smell good, for a while.
That's when they're the least radioactive.
we sometimes abbreviate that to "morally and intellectually challenged" but that's a mouthful
You can tell by the glow.
@tripleee you could say "not army" because those guys spam with impunity
@M.A.R. the glow is from the inside, when excited my toes glow. Isn't it common?
12:40
Only in Chernobyl
oops
So now I finally know where I was really born.
:D
12:57
Took Found a picture of my toes
@M.A.R. :D
Only four toes?!
@Tinkeringbell Chernobyl, duh
Lucky it's not 6
Shouldn't that mean 6 toes then? :P
XD
Too slow
:P
I'd choose different color but meh, that goes too. ;)
@ShadowWizardSaysNoMoreWar you look fake man, welcome to the 21st century
@Tinkeringbell no I think one toe is shaped like a huge claw besides his ankle like those vicious little dinosaurs . . . Dinonycus or something like that
Deinonychus
13:12
Actually I do have overlapping toes problem IRL ;)
Sometimes the toes just, well, overlap.
 
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14:20
Guest Post on March 14, 2022
Sharding was one of the first ways databases were distributed to improve performance. Recent innovations have made it one of the best.
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14:35
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@Feeds onebox is good but before sharding databases maybe tell us more important things, like what happened to SE couple of days ago? Thanks!
it's just another "hey i'm the CXO of X and i'm here to talk about this thing X solves!"
It's always about what X solves, but never the side effects (the problems it creates)
embarrasing
Software should come with those long lists, like medicines... of all the possible side effects XD
14:55
So now SE "shard" their DB, and has another excuse when things break.
> Sharding. It's always sharding.
Great.
As if it's not complex enough already.
15:11
i'd rather the blog cut out guest posting entirely. Fill the void with in-house content about what you're doing in-house to improve the public network
@KevinB well it's not really guest post it's just another onebox bug.
Author even has account on SO:
Juan Pan, Beijing, China
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When onebox isn't failing, it just show "guest post".
?
it's a post from not staff
it's a guest post
it's a post to promote a 3rd party product that isn't SO
@KevinB ohh, but I'm 100000% sure onebox isn't smart enough to tell author isn't staff.
It's borked.
i honestly wasn't commening about the onebox's "guest post" bit, didn't see that till you pointed it out
oh lol
Well it's not new blog is actually ads platform. Always was.
15:33
lol
Not always
16:09
There was a time where it was used to talk about the platform itself primarily, but that was of course while the platform itself was all that existed and was actively being worked on
now days... it seems even when the platform is being actively worked on, the specifics are kept secret until it's launched
can't be having codeaddict stealing ideas i guess
or yahoo answers
16:27
@KevinB Yahoo has nothing to steal
They're like an empty, crumbling, house.
Big, but nothing there.
(exactly)
17:16
@JourneymanGeek oh boy here we go again
Wheelchair: A Meta Story
 
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2
A: Periodic outages again?

Josh ZhangWe were hit by a DDoS attack. While the attack itself was mitigated by our systems, the conditions set off a series of errors that managed to uncover an edge case in one of our backend systems. It took several hours for us to identify the issue because the errors only manifested themselves once a...

 
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22:30
> We were hit by a DDoS attack. While the attack itself was mitigated by our systems, the conditions set off a series of errors that managed to uncover an edge case in one of our backend systems.
huh
22:44
Does reloading your own post cause the view count to go up? It seems to do that for me from time to time, which I don't think is intended.
it might?
huh
It's certainly not consistent. If I refresh 20 times, it doesn't go up by 20 (only the first 5 or so?).
And it appears that I have to wait several seconds before the next refresh increments the count.
Although it doesn't matter for most posts, it's frustrating when I have a question with 17 views and I know a maximum of 11 of them were not me.
 
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@forestdistrustsStackExchange The good news: the attack didn't break through our shields. The bad news: the vibrations caused our house to fall apart.
You need MIL-STD walls.

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