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M.A.R.

3:24 AM

@ShadowWizardIsVaccinatedV3 Very gracious of you

Meta Andrew T.

7:21 AM

oh yeah, should be f instead...(thinking of "no" or "negative" for n)

Glorfindel

7:47 AM

@cairdcoinheringaahing no, not yet, thanks for the idea. Perhaps you could post it as an answer to its Stack Apps post?

Shadow Wizard Is Vaccinated V3

@M.A.R. bows

@Rob but it's not :D

Rob

More like :B

M.A.R.

8:03 AM

@Rob Bugs Bunny?

Shadow Wizard Is Vaccinated V3

@Rob Bogus Bunny

Shadow Wizard Is Vaccinated V3

8:23 AM

why u no delete?!

!!/bugged

SmokeDetector

@ShadowWizardIsVaccinatedV3 No such command 'bugged'.

Shadow Wizard Is Vaccinated V3

:(

Luuklag

8:55 AM

@ShadowWizardIsVaccinatedV3 been bugged for a while now

Shadow Wizard Is Vaccinated V3

@Luuklag I know

Nov 8 at 10:54, by Shadow Wizard Is Vaccinated V3

hmm didn't it use to delete?

People didn't think it's a bug back then ^

Sadly like SE bugs, this one likely won't ever get fixed.

(too minor, nobody really cares except me.)

Shadow Wizard Is Vaccinated V3

9:14 AM

Smoke on the Meta

Tinkeringbell

cough

Shadow Wizard Is Vaccinated V3

:-D

Luuklag

10:41 AM

already has mine

Tinkeringbell

Too lazy to log in again just for a spam flag XD

Shadow Wizard Is Vaccinated V3

@Tinkeringbell again?

You log off from each site?

Tinkeringbell

No... but the serverfault one always logs me out for some reason

Iirc, so does ask ubuntu?

Shadow Wizard Is Vaccinated V3

@tripleee poof

@Tinkeringbell yeah, different domain, different cookies

Tinkeringbell

Yep. I know there's a reason for it :)

Shadow Wizard Is Vaccinated V3

10:47 AM

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A: Why do I have to re-log in on all *.SE sites, one after another?

You may need to allow all cross-site cookies and third-party cookies. I have also tried setting the tracking prevention (in Edge/Firefox/Chrome) to balanced and disabled any blocking extensions. It should work after a browser reload (that is, closing the browser and then opening it again with the...

stealing @Tink's cookies

yum yum

Tinkeringbell

@ShadowWizardIsVaccinatedV3 Noo, not my cookies!

Shadow Wizard Is Vaccinated V3

@Tinkeringbell LOLLL!! What's that? And what my Tower is doing there?! :P

Tinkeringbell

@ShadowWizardIsVaccinatedV3 You've seriously never heard of cookie clicker? XD

In all your years of existence on the internet? :P

orteil.dashnet.org/cookieclicker

^ Go!

Shadow Wizard Is Vaccinated V3

@Tinkeringbell indeed! I... don't play or look for games, got one which is more than enough... (on my phone) :)

Tinkeringbell

I know it has wizard towers :P

I need more of those, but they're expensive.

Shadow Wizard Is Vaccinated V3

10:52 AM

@Tinkeringbell hmm on second thought, my daughter might enjoy it, I'll show it to her. So, thanks! :D

Tinkeringbell

Yw!

Shadow Wizard Is Vaccinated V3

@Tinkeringbell tell them I sent you, you'll get 69% discount!

:P :D :P

Tinkeringbell

Won't work, and they only get more expensive each time you buy one :P This is a picture from yesterday though, so I have a few more by now ;)

Shadow Wizard Is Vaccinated V3

lol

BTW, ever heard of Match Masters?

That's the current "trend" for my kids, and many of their classmates.

Tinkeringbell

Seems fun! I googled, and I get the basics ;)

I used to play cookie clicker 'against' some classmates back when I was like 15 or so... I was the only one with a laptop, and I'd sometimes keep it running all night XD

Bitcoin mining before it was cool!

Shadow Wizard Is Vaccinated V3

10:56 AM

lol

I ran Fold@Home

Some charity (?) project to help fight cancer.

Or so they were claiming....

Tinkeringbell

Yeah, I heard about that one too... never interested me as much XD

Shadow Wizard Is Vaccinated V3

Folding@home

Folding@home (FAH or F@h) is a distributed computing project aimed to help scientists develop new therapeutics for a variety of diseases by the means of simulating protein dynamics. This includes the process of protein folding and the movements of proteins, and is reliant on simulations run on volunteers' personal computers. Folding@home is currently based at Washington University in St. Louis and led by Greg Bowman, a former student of Vijay Pande.The project utilizes graphics processing units (GPUs), central processing units (CPUs), and ARM processors like those on the Raspberry Pi for distributed...

Huh, it's still up??? I'm almost sure I saw them saying they're shutting down years ago.

Tinkeringbell

Maybe there were plans, but they were foiled ;)

Shadow Wizard Is Vaccinated V3

Or they just shut down the client for whatever I was running back then, lol

Rob

12:02 PM

@M.A.R. youtu.be/R8sBGeJdihE?t=21 @Sha

Luuklag

12:13 PM

@ShadowWizardIsVaccinatedV3 mmmm Yeah I ran that when I was in highschool, on a gaming PC that I didn't use that much

Looks like folding is now focussion on Covid

caird coinheringaahing

12:28 PM

@Glorfindel Done :)

Spevacus

1:24 PM

@ShadowWizardIsVaccinatedV3 This is filed in a Github issue: github.com/Charcoal-SE/SmokeDetector/issues/6776 - But I'm unsure when it'll be fixed. It'd be nice if it happened sooner rather than later, but we don't really know what caused it to break :(

Luuklag

@Spevacus It also doesn't only relate to reports, but to all messages

Spevacus

Yeah, the last comment in that issue mentions that

That said, still sucks :(

Luuklag

@Spevacus agreed

Shadow Wizard Is Vaccinated V3

@Luuklag agreed

@Spevacus my best guess is permissions, something changed behind the scenes on SE side and broke Smokey code that post the delete request.

Luuklag

@ShadowWizardIsVaccinatedV3 find that unlikely, must been 100 years since chat's source was last touched by SE

Shadow Wizard Is Vaccinated V3

1:37 PM

@Luuklag so maybe some low level permissions check used in many places, and Smokey has some special status? Dunno.

@tripleee how Smokey logging in? Is it totally ordinary account, for SE?

My first debug step would be to log in as Smokey, post a test message and try to delete it right away.

tripleee

@ShadowWizardIsVaccinatedV3 yeah, email and password (and occasionally gets a pesky CAPTHCA)

@ShadowWizardIsVaccinatedV3 you can run Smokey on your own account, too, if you like

it's a bit confusing if you are participating in the same room so probably create a sock puppet

Spevacus

The only downside is you can't issue yourself commands. D:

Shadow Wizard Is Vaccinated V3

@Spevacus :(

@tripleee well that won't really test its login... will it?

Journeyman Geek

@ShadowWizardIsVaccinatedV3 all the bots are

tripleee

@ShadowWizardIsVaccinatedV3 unlikely to be specific to the Smokey account, other than maybe if (like I have speculated elsewhere) the problem is that the deletion requests get throttled because there's so much traffic from the account that they arrive to late to be valid

Shadow Wizard Is Vaccinated V3

1:44 PM

@tripleee well in the past when it worked, the deletion was instant, so not sure what you mean by "arrive too late to be valid".

tripleee

myself and Makyen seem to be the primary committers to the code base right now and I don't think either of us think this is very important to fix, but feel free to try to persuade us

Shadow Wizard Is Vaccinated V3

@tripleee PayPal address?

;)

tripleee

@ShadowWizardIsVaccinatedV3 chat basically allows you to post something every 20 seconds so we constantly have to wait and retry

Luuklag

@tripleee you might want to put in some special casing for delete requests then, that they end up at the top of the list

tripleee

there is some leeway to post two or three messages in rapid succession but once you start hitting the limits, you get throttled with increasing intensity

Shadow Wizard Is Vaccinated V3

1:46 PM

@Luuklag yeah it's mentioned on the GH case.

tripleee

@Luuklag yeah if my speculation is correct that would not be hard to code up as such, but requires experimentation to verify

Shadow Wizard Is Vaccinated V3

@tripleee yeah, cross room, I know.

But here on MSE Smokey doesn't post a lot, so can't see how this might be the case.

tripleee

it also posts everything in The Fire Department

I think precisely to reduce the amount of traffic we have on the main chat sites

Feeds

3:02 PM

A conversation about how to enable high-velocity DevOps culture at your organization

Eira May on December 13, 2021

Recently, Stack Overflow’s Chief Product and Technology Officer, Teresa Dietrich, sat down with Justin Stone, Senior Director of Secure DevOps Platforms at Liberty Mutual, for a conversation about building a high-velocity DevOps culture.

Ekadh Singh - Reinstate Monica

3:13 PM

@Feeds A conversation about how to enable high-velocity oneboxes at your tavern.

Would this be duplicate of this or not?

Luuklag

@EkadhSingh-ReinstateMonica No, I think its a new itteration

Feeds

In addition to having all their budgets in a spreadsheet with consistent formatting, they just love expressing preferences on a well-calibrated numerical scale.

Luuklag

3:29 PM

@JourneymanGeek @davi , some spammers to nuke ˆ

rene

6:29 PM

→ 45 messages moved to Chimney

SPArcheon

@ShadowWizardIsVaccinatedV3 on the plus side, it is no gacha.

Kevin B

7:03 PM

🚽

Journeyman Geek

7:53 PM

@EkadhSingh-ReinstateMonica Protip, don't touch Staff posts :D

Journeyman Geek

8:12 PM

@Spevacus Its an off label, and very SE specific use of the term, so correct grammar for "sunset"/"sunsetted" is debatable :D

Spevacus

:D

Figured I'd leave 'er alone without knowing the full story /o/

Journeyman Geek

I've fixed it less ambigiously

I don't see it happening and lots of moving parts but... its worth asking :D

Spevacus

I 100% agree. I'm glad you asked about it. I know you're not the only mod who used the notifications a bunch.

Spevacus

9:22 PM

What is it with these bots (I assume they're bots) wanting to post nonsense on a moderator's question?

Journeyman Geek

\o/

Spevacus

That's like walking into a police station and trying to rob the front desk lady

Journeyman Geek

Apparently I hit all the keywords

@Spevacus who's in full body armour, and has a large machinegun with an ammo belt....

(Its a rough town?)

Spevacus

lol

Glorfindel

@Spevacus the only remaining answer is even worse :P

Spevacus

9:28 PM

Ha!

Journeyman Geek

lol

"You can't" is an answer

@Glorfindel If I could code - building my own and open sourcing it would be an option :D

I'd guess you'd need to tap onto apple/google's back end for push notifications?

Glorfindel

Yes, but (at least on iOS) it won't help for notifications initiated by 3rd parties (in this case, SE).

Kevin B

web notifications would at least support android, but it's only better than nothing if you have android

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Journeyman Geek

@KevinB Yeah I know

Well I knew in 2018 when I made the feature request :D

Kevin B

sad that it's still true 3 years later

Journeyman Geek

9:44 PM

Hm well

There's a reason I brought these things up early :D

Kevin B

just use a PC

ez

Journeyman Geek

@KevinB Can't really carry one on my pocket

I do a remarkable amount of modding off a phone on a train

Kevin B

i actually have a handheld here that can run windows and fit in my pocket

(not that i'd suggest anyone use it for that purpose)

Journeyman Geek

lol

Kevin B

😉

Journeyman Geek

9:47 PM

or linux

Kevin B

yeah that's even more of a possibility, but at that point get an android tablet

Journeyman Geek

....

oh wait!

I have an android phone

Kevin B

then you'd be fine, if they implemented web notifications

Journeyman Geek

more seriously - phone notifications also go to my watch

So for me personally it would work

Kevin B

it wouldn't work for me, but, the app works for ios 15.1, and i assume the recently released 15.2

Journeyman Geek

9:50 PM

I'm not sure if the alt-app for ios does notifications

Rob

10:05 PM

@Spevacus There's easily over a dozen videos on YouTube of people robbing a police station. Even weirder is ramming the police station with a vehicle many times, destroying your means of escape.

Kevin B

kinda like throwing the gun instead of fireing it

Rob

I think they got the idea from a scene in the video game GTA.

user302202

10:58 PM

I'll be back (Police station assault) | The Terminator [Open Matte, Remastered]

►

Rob

@VoteDukakis It's too violent to link to, but it probably started with "Rambo First Blood (1982) - Escape From the Police Station Scene"; 40 years ago.

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