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Whoa! scared by sudden appearance of Shog

FWIW, there are two blacklist entries that trigger on the word "work"

one is particularly concerned with questions about floating point numbers though

The other one is this:

^(?=.{0,40}$)(?=.*\b(question(?!\s+mark)|doubt|problem|working|work|app|error|w‌ebsite|(?<!(visual studio|vs|exit)\s+)code|my)\b).+

yes, "my" is a pretty strong indicator of a question that is not gonna do well

Heh. Wonder how many bad questions that blocked so far. ;)

So "My code exits in Visual Studio which no doubt causes a problem with my APP working with my website" is doomed, and uneditable.

12:18 AM

It might cause auto question ban ^

Even before posting! lol

Look what happened to Shog!

What happened to @Shog?

View avatar.

Can't see any change... ?

Check your pockets.

12:20 AM

@ShadowWizard 18382

Same floating head as always

@Shog9 how... ?! lol

You have log of the failed submissions?

@Rob It would not. Read the regex more closely...

Although... That title is kinda shit

Brown title

@ShadowWizard yep

@Shog9 cool

Well probably 18000 of those just submitted with some other title instead and same bad content

But still...

12:23 AM

Not that I'd ever ask that, nor am I regex literate.

@Rob joke missed, sorry! (if there was one?) lol

Attempted                                Posted
---------------------------------------- -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Unknown JSON Syntax Error                my manifest.json file contains an error that I can't find
unknown syntax error in manifest.json    my manifest.json file contains an error that I can't find
How can show an error message in excel?  *gave up*
my macro not show me message error       *gave up*
still not show me the error message      *gave up*

Titles that got blocked in the past 24 hours

Along with what was posted instead, or gave up if nothing was posted

I have to confess, "How can I hack on raspbian jessie?" probably isn't an improvement

lol

But yeah, this appears to work better than expected.

i.e. improve quality of titles.

The biggest problem with it is that it's static

Someone less lazy than me should really be analyzing titles on a regular basis

Who feeds the regex?

12:27 AM

Would a link to "How to ask a good question / write a good title" be a better outcome than 'gave up'?

Also, I probably should have... like... saved whatever script I used to analyze titles to generate that

oh well

the first one went 8 years without an update, the second one can wait a little bit too

@Shog something weird. "Why happened out of bound error in for loop? " appears 5 times, it means OP re-posted it 5 times?

@ShadowWizard they tried to post it five times

(questions can't have same title)

Or rather, they tried 5 other things before landing on that title

so five rejected inputs ended up producing a question with that title

12:29 AM

oh. I see now.

Kind of 1d nesting.

@Rob Every time they get blocked, I link to How do I ask a good question?

That link doesn't work here, but it does on SO

Also just because I link to it doesn't mean they read it

although that's probably self-evident

Well, some AI that will suggest a better title would be awesome.

I should link to Quora. but... I'm just not a cruel person

On mobile, when you are scrolled down to the button you hit it and sometimes nothing happens, so you scroll back up and discover that there's a problem that has a red border or message; so you fix that and scroll back down to the button.

@Rob uh... mobile-theme mobile, or full-site mobile?

12:32 AM

aka responsive?

thought I fixed that in the full theme, but... Wouldn't surprise me terribly if it was all fux'd in the mobile theme

Full website, desktop view.

hmm, let's try

I still find responsive weird, but nice.

it's getting better. It's The Way Forward

12:33 AM

No way back, for sure.

my phone has better screen resolution than most of the PCs i've used in my life at this point

would be a shame not to use it

Use it for gaming then. :D

Argh. "How do Ruby printf arguments work?" was a good title for that question; @ShadowWizard's edit renders the title kinda meaningless and would make me expect a crappy debugging question if I saw it in my Google results :/

But I'm not sure how to make the title clear and meaningful again without tripping the filter

They've changed things the past few weeks bit by bit. Might be no-repro now. Basically you needed to keep your eyes peeled and pedantically scan everywhere if something seemed amis. --- I'm used y it, I read my tiny screen with a magnifying glass.

@MarkAmery blame Shog and his regexes :)

12:35 AM

@Rob yeah, that should work now; just tested it on my phone, "my app sucks help" -> fill in body + tags -> Post -> scrolls back to the top & shows error

Yeah, I am very much not a fan of title filters

But see above, it block lots of really bad titles.

Also, feel free to edit with a better title, I didn't give it too much thought.

A: Please refocus on the Title field if there is an error there when asking

@Rob Jan 2:

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This was apparently triggered by the move to inline "Stacks" validation a few months back. The editor currently supports both inline and old-style pop-up validation messages, but the checks on submission responsible for scrolling (and displaying the message below the button) weren't updated to be...

Aha! It took a couple of minutes, but I came up with something I liked :) stackoverflow.com/q/14505621/1709587

@MarkAmery nicely done. :)

12:37 AM

@Shog9 My phone is fairly great over 1 GBPS WiFi LTE4 GPS, essentially an uninterruptable power supply and a decent camera. It's an S9+.

yeah, those are nice. Except for the weird-ass Samsung software

It's 6 months old and has had 6 updates. Plus I get 20+ hours battery life.

PH-1 here. Very underrated phone. Big screen, lots of storage, battery lasts a day of regular use easy. Paid $250.

Essential PH-1: gsmarena.com/_essential_ph_1-8710.php

Yours is certainly more for the $

Journeyman Geek

It got seriously marked down

12:45 AM

Mine was reduced in price ~$20 :( or :)

@Shog9 Upvoted, that's what was needed.

Q: Angular 2 is a long time ago

:thumbsup:

Nick Alexeev

1:14 AM

I bet, the question about version tags have been discussed somewhere on meta.SE already.

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The angular2 tag is somewhat outdated. I don't think it is a good idea to make a new tag for every version of Angular 2+ but most questions these days are about Angular 6 or 7. (And soon Angular 8). We need a tag that identify a question as an Angular question and not an angularjs question. M...

@Shog9 "Need a code if exists" is the most entertainingly vague of these. Got a grin out of me.

Oh man, somebody successfully satisfied the filter by rewriting a title that was at least vaguely specific to their problem to "Give the solution for this" :(

FWIW - I studied at the first 102 lines of Shog's title filter data before getting bored. In those, I count (in my obviously subjective judgement):
20 questions posted with improved titles
16 questions posted with worse titles
16 questions posted with titles no better nor worse than before
8 crap-sounding questions abandoned
0 good-sounding questions abandoned

I guess you can count that as the title filter being a net force for good or evil depending upon how important you consider each of those outcomes to be. I remain anti.

(Caveat: a handful of those 20 "improved" titles I counted as improved because they changed a short, highly generic, SEO-friendly title to a long, obviously-crappy title that made clear it was a tedious debugging question. I still count that as an improvement because keeping outright bad questions out of popular Google results is a win in and of itself.)

Q: Version tags considered harmful

1:44 AM

oh hell yeah

@NickAlexeev yes, lots

you can find the ones on MSE easily enough, but for your additional edification and amusement, please also see:

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We've noticed that a huge percentage of questions are tagged drupal-6 or drupal-7. This is a dangerous pattern for your community to fall into. Here's why: Version tags are redundant. The site is already called "drupal". We don't need to know that it's drupal-6, drupal-7, drupal-8, drupal-9 in...

discussion tags

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Q: Numeric version tags considered ... OK

As a followup to Version tags considered harmful TL;DR -- my main point in that post: The danger of version tags is that they become de-facto requirements -- crutches to avoid thinking about what tags are actually useful on a question. Left unchecked, version tags will poison your tagging s...

discussion tags

and myself

2:18 AM

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