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12:19 AM

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Journeyman Geek

12:57 AM

@EKons you volunteering?

Hooommmeeee

and myself

2:45 AM

Morning... with new laptop adapter ._.

Shog9

does it fit your lap properly now?

and myself

it top...ples

ArtOfCode

3:15 AM

laptopple

laptipple would be more appropriate for happy hour

Journeyman Geek

laptipple might indicate you overshot the ballmer peak by quite a bit

ArtOfCode

Laptoppled your laptipple? Juan Sheet of Plenty...

Yes, it's 3 AM.

Journeyman Geek

hah

I just got home from work ._.

I was on a 12 hour shift ;p

Catija

3:54 AM

Sleep.

Journeyman Geek

naw, got a day shift coming up and need to normalise my sleep cycles.

Also I'm a bit wired from yesterday.

Catija

You say that like you're not always weird. :P

Journeyman Geek

weird, yes wired no ;p

Basically was up all night firefighting.

Catija

HAHAHA Totally misread that.

Journeyman Geek

funny thing is the rest of the team was brilliant

Wasn't one of those nights where the folks on both sides were boat anchors ;p

Catija

4:02 AM

That's great. :D It's always nice to hear about high-functioning teams. I've been reading this great book about groups - The Culture Code... it's fascinating.

and myself

4:15 AM

One of my bank's website is still using Legacy Symantec PKI and that made my Chrome mad...

Journeyman Geek

4:44 AM

@Catija lemme put it this way - I'd complain more but my work is covered by the official secrets act ;p

Catija

@JourneymanGeek So glad I'm not in that line of work any more.

Journeyman Geek

Well, I take what I got ;)

I'll start looking around come feb/march ;)

Its not really the line of work, as much as the way things are done

(but multiple levels of outsourcing hardly helps either ._.)

and myself

2 'scam' HNQs on Monies.SE? :O

Catija

@JourneymanGeek I think I remember you saying that having this job might give you a leg up in looking for future work... is that the case, you think?

Journeyman Geek

@Catija it basically means I don't have a big gap in my resume till the next one.

Probably should chase the data center side of things, its more interesting I suspect, and probably fits my skillset better. ANd I pretty much have this job unless I quit

Catija

4:54 AM

Oh, well, the latter part of that sounds good, at least. You'd said you had a contract, so I was assuming once the contract was up, the job was up. Good to know you have some flexibility.

Journeyman Geek

Oh, Its complicated.

The bodyshop that 'owns' my contract has a termination clause

the company the subcontracted me out to has a fairly standard one month notice period.

If I re-up, there's no termination clause after that

Thing is since its "government" they need folks who're local (which narrows the pool a lot) and are willing to work, well, strange hours.

Catija

Ah, that's not bad. If you re-up are you locked in to another 9 or 12 months or ... whatever?

Journeyman Geek

Apparently not

Catija

Well, that gives you a lot of flexibility to find another job.

Journeyman Geek

yup

Catija

4:58 AM

Particularly the weird hours... lots of time for interviews. :P

Journeyman Geek

ANd least for now, working government probably should help me with marketability on that other thing I need applying for ;)

ya

Catija

HAHA. Lady Geek. :D

Journeyman Geek

Hypothetical future mrs geek ;p

Catija

You've been upgraded. No longer Mr. Geek, now Lord Geek, so she's Lady Geek. :D

Journeyman Geek

Wait, I got peered?

;p

Catija

5:02 AM

What do you think being a mod on MSE does?

Journeyman Geek

I'm still working that out ;p

(and a good many other things ;p)

Catija

Well, now you know something.

Journeyman Geek

Well, maybe ;p

Its still the strangest moderatoral seat as far as I'm concerned ;p

Catija

Don't look at me. I've been confused about moderating MSE for months... you can see the stats.

Journeyman Geek

Well, I've always said, the mechanics are usually the easy bits

My stats are basically "seeing numbers in the flag queue bothers me"

Real mod work's the stuff that's out in the open. And well, metaing meta is... interesting? ;p

Catija

5:14 AM

I used to go crazy when there were unread indicators on my phone apps... I have them turned off on many of the apps for that reason... but something about being a mod on IPS and never being able to get rid of all of the flags... it doesn't bother me as much.

Journeyman Geek

Well SU's on 0

here is as low as I can get

Catija

SO's at like 300 right now. :P

Journeyman Geek

that's lower than usual right? ;p

Catija

HAHA. I don't know. I think it's about average, though I've seen it at zero before, too.

Journeyman Geek

I think the biggest number I have seen is 50

Catija

5:20 AM

There were times IPS was up in the 60-80 range.

That was before we got Tink and AJ, though.

Journeyman Geek

oh this was one guy

Catija

I'm going to go investigate my eyelids.

... they may have cracks... may take a few hours. ;)

Journeyman Geek

XD

good idea. Make sure you are thorough. Those cracks can be sneaky

Ankit Sharma

6:04 AM

@andmyself I read movies and got confused :D

Shree

6:55 AM

cv-pls feature-request off-topic www and non-www- https and http - mohsen rassoulzadeh‎ - 2018-12-15 06:54:26Z

rene

8:38 AM

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SmokeDetector

9:02 AM

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Shadow Wizard

9:34 AM

How to tell it's weekend? Spam lasting for more than 2 minutes..... ;)

!!/report meta.stackexchange.com/questions/320211/…

SmokeDetector

@ShadowWizard Post 1: Could not find data for this post in the API. It may already have been deleted.

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Shadow Wizard

sd ignore

SmokeDetector

@ShadowWizard [:7437268] Post ignored; alerts about it will no longer be posted.

Shadow Wizard

no link, doesn't appear to be spammer.

rene

10:16 AM

delv-pls 20K linear meta.stackexchange.com/questions/320207/… /cc @ShadowWizard @Bart @TravisJ

cv-pls discussion off-topic / not about SE How is this code working at all when mid_index is a float of 3.5? - Calvin‎ - 2018-12-15 10:04:25Z

Tinkeringbell

Morning

rene

delv-pls 20K face_encodings meta.stackexchange.com/questions/320212/… /cc @ShadowWizard @Bart @TravisJ

Morning

delv-pls 20k http meta.stackexchange.com/questions/320203/… /cc @ShadowWizard @Bart @TravisJ

SmokeDetector

11:23 AM

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SmokeDetector

12:07 PM

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SmokeDetector

12:25 PM

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Bart

1:18 PM

Preemptive posting

We'll be taking Stack Overflow and the Stack Exchange Q&A sites offline for just a moment to failover our primary SQL clusters. Interruption should be minimal.

Tweeted by Nick_Craver on December 15, 2018 at 1:11 PM

Rob

How long until we should panic? :)

SmokeDetector

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Bart

just start panicking now just to be sure

Princess Luna

Nvm

M.A.R. ಠ_ಠ

Maintenance again?

Oh well, as long as it wasn't unexpected

rene

1:29 PM

@Bart looks more like a failed-over

2

Princess Luna

^

Chat died for a sec ("application error"). Bots are having problems (Smokey's struggling atm)

rene

as always, Kenny is hanging on to that websocket ....

Rob

Huh, your hat's disappeared now

M.A.R. ಠ_ಠ

@PrincessLuna Smart. Blame assignment in total chaos

rene

@Rob Oh, they didn't install Winterbash in Denver ...

Princess Luna

1:33 PM

rip xd

Wait, does that mean all the hats are lost?

Rob

Gone forever

Not sure if I could do Nick's job. I panic when a deploy breaks even when people aren't even using the service :D

M.A.R. ಠ_ಠ

They were never not gone forever

rene

!!/hats -> Winterbash 2019 will start in 11 months, 20 days, 19 hours and 23 seconds

SmokeDetector

@rene Winter Bash won't end for 18 days, 10 hours, 22 minutes, and 17 seconds. GO EARN SOME HATS!

rene

4?

really?

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Journeyman Geek

1:41 PM

@PrincessLuna yes

Princess Luna

O_O

SmokeDetector

@rene Winter Bash won't end for 18 days, 10 hours, 22 minutes, and 17 seconds. GO EARN SOME HATS!

Princess Luna

Wait, they're still there?

Rob

Ah, I was wondering why smokey only posted 4 replies rather than the usual 5

2

SmokeDetector

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and myself

2:14 PM

> Got 5 minutes to do 10 reviews?

MS having 435 pending reviews...

Journeyman Geek

Metasmoke?

and myself

yeah

SmokeDetector

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noɥʇʎԀʎzɐɹƆ

2:39 PM

complaint: *.googleapis.com is blocked in china

and myself

3

Q: Using Google CDN to load scripts gives poor user experience in China

Here in China, pretty much everything by Google is blocked by the government. If you request anything from a Google domain, it will give the appearance of loading for a while and then give back a DNS error. Stack Exchange uses a Google CDN to deliver some scripts, which means that users in China...

Journeyman Geek

2:50 PM

._.

Arbitrary web blocks need to die in a fire

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and myself

3:17 PM

A quick question that I always forget: is it possible to merge unregistered account with registered account?

I think the only limitation is that you can't merge unregistered account with another unregistered account?

Catija

@andmyself users can request it using the contact page.

I think either is possible as long as you can prove they're both yours.

Rob

@JourneymanGeek My company blocks all social media sites, including twitter. Which means we can't investigate outages which are announced there :\

and myself

alright, thanks. Looks like the OP of this answer accidentally created a new account

Rob

And the reasoning isn't to stop people wasting time, it's for 'security'

Luckily... I can abuse one boxes here to read a tweet if I have a link handy

Journeyman Geek

@andmyself yes

@Rob my work has no internet in the whole facility

Rob

3:24 PM

Ouch

Journeyman Geek

You can bring your own .... My mobile usage is mostly data

and myself

Bring Your Own Internet™

Journeyman Geek

Actually it's supposed to be the case for most government facilities here

Rob

I remember you're on a military site.. if you're allowed to use the internet on personal devices, is there a reason they don't have a wifi completely disconnected from the rest of the network?

Journeyman Geek

If you're lucky they have WiFi for personal devices

@Rob law enforcement

No idea

Rob

3:26 PM

Oh.. am I misremembering, or are you now in law enforcement rather than military?

Journeyman Geek

I guess they just didn't see the need and we are a vendor

Oh. I work for the company that runs a major application for a law enforcement agency

Rob

Ah, gotcha

Journeyman Geek

Military is a 2 week a year obligation

Catija

@andmyself looks like it. Your comment is the best option for them. We don't generally manually merge accounts without a request from the owner.

@JourneymanGeek for everyone of a certain age or are you in something like the reserves in the US?

Journeyman Geek

@Catija the former

We're considered part of the military proper

Actually it's the Israeli model with tweaks. There's a mandatory conscription period and a term of service

It's about a decade then you're in the reserves

and myself

3:34 PM

National service

Journeyman Geek

Yup

But that's really an official euphemism for conscription

Catija

Both men and women?

Journeyman Geek

Men only

Catija

I think Israel does both.

Journeyman Geek

Our founding fathers didn't feel conservative Asian society was ready for it

Yeah. Our ~~mexican~~ Israeli advisors suggested bit be universal.

We went another way

Catija

3:37 PM

Ah.

Rob

4:23 PM

@JourneymanGeek They're synonyms, but the word conscription is usually used during war time... At least, that's my understanding

John Dvorak

4:38 PM

In unrelated news: Subnautica is free until Dec27. Any bets if it will run on my non-gaming laptop? Only 2.4GHz CPU, but the rest should be fine.

Mithrandir

@Catija Correct.

Something I'll be dealing with soon, actually

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4:57 PM

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John Dvorak

First death in the intro sequence. This is looking promising!

SmokeDetector

5:10 PM

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and myself

5:28 PM

Ugh, Epic Game Store... another online store...

Fabby

@Rob No... Draft is during war times.

Conscription is during peace times...

CC @JourneymanGeek

Mithrandir

5:47 PM

Tinkeringbell

6:02 PM

That looks so nice, silent and perfect right now ;)

Mithrandir

Yeah. In the winter, it's really quiet there... in the summer, the place is packed to exploding.

Tinkeringbell

Tourists?

Mithrandir

And locals.

It's more folks from the country than people from out, actually

Tinkeringbell

Well, tourists don't always have to come from another country :P

Mithrandir

True. It's mostly semi-locals ;)

SmokeDetector

6:49 PM

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Shadow Wizard

7:15 PM

@Mithrandir nice... Which river is it?

Tinkeringbell

7:53 PM

siiiiiigh finally, no more kids around. They've driven me crazy!

Mithrandir

@ShadowWizard doesn't answer

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8:05 PM

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rene

@Tinkeringbell kids are great, specially if not your own ...

Tinkeringbell

8:22 PM

@rene these need to learn to sit and shut up, and that a joke is only funny once. But yeah, glad they're not mine :P

rene

Oh, yes. When they can talk, you regret they do ...

Mithrandir

close-pls | Driver is null exception in selenium

close-pls | i can't add another person

rene

@Mithrandir I've seen that same question before.

Mithrandir

:/

rene

not today, maybe it was y'day ...

Tinkeringbell

8:29 PM

@rene The one that doesn't talk properly yet is just as nasty... She was calling me 'grandma'!

rene

lol

and myself

8:46 PM

Hmm? Google now also has a sticky tob par?

Shadow Wizard

@Tinkeringbell whose kids?? ;)

@andmyself top parrot? Sure! :P

No repro on mobile

rene

@andmyself the horror

Hello Alta Vista

Tinkeringbell

@ShadowWizard Neighbor's ;)

SmokeDetector

9:15 PM

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and myself

What does it mean if a link to a question returns 404 even if you have a privilege to see deleted ~~questions~~ something? anime.stackexchange.com/questions/50019 returns 404 even for me... is it a deleted tag excerpt/wiki?

Mithrandir

That's possible.

and myself

9:30 PM

Hmm, the actual question that should have been asked in the first place: are automatically deleted posts from deleted users soft-deleted or hard-deleted?

Mithrandir

Nothing is ever hard-deleted

there have been like... two questions ever hard-deleted

and myself

Good to know, and yeah, that's also what I believe... thanks!

M.A.R. ಠ_ಠ

@andmyself Oh so that's what's been causing the maintenances

Pandora's question

and myself

10:11 PM

One more thing: is it possible for the tag's created date to be updated to a newer one if it has been burninated once before?

Shadow Wizard

11:06 PM

@Derpy done!

Found it really cheap on eBay. Almost looks too cheap...

Will probably reach before the cheese swag from SE. :D

@Mithrandir don't think so, e.g. many times people post private data by mistake, flag, and mod redact it. It's hard deleted in such case as far as I remember. No?

Or at least not available even for 10k users and mods.

Also, Nick hard deleted one my MSE posts in the past since it contained a secret IP that I stumbled upon by chance and asked about. So...

and myself

@ShadowWizard at least I ought to believe this hasn't happened on Anime.SE...

Shadow Wizard

@andmyself why?

Mithrandir

@ShadowWizard redacted is distinct from a question being hard deleted

and myself

@ShadowWizard nah, nothing serious... it just started with this meta question and my journey to find it by brute-forcing the post ID.

Unless those questions were hard-deleted for no reason, I don't believe that's the case...

Shadow Wizard

@Mithrandir so who can view a redacted question?

@andmyself hmm.... well dunno then. Can a mod see that question you linked before?

and myself

11:21 PM

Haven't asked them, but they came in pair; 50019 and 50020. 50018 is a normal post, 50021 and 50022 are tag excerpt & wiki

Mithrandir

@ShadowWizard A question isn't redacted. You redact the revision history.

That's how stuff like PII is handled - it's edited out and then redacted.

Shadow Wizard

@Mithrandir but if you redact the first and only revision... ?

Pretty sure I saw some example a while ago... though not sure I got 404 page as @andmy describe.

Mithrandir

@ShadowWizard That doesn't work.

It's not possible to initiate a redaction without at least two revisions.

AFAIK.

Shadow Wizard

ohh

Oh well, was worth trying. :)

!!/blame

SmokeDetector

@ShadowWizard It's Taryn's fault.

Mithrandir

11:28 PM

(You do always start the reaction from the first revision that it's applicable, though.)

and myself

> JasonC: your face is redacted.

2

Shadow Wizard

rofl that's so Jason!!

We lost so many people over the years. :(

CRABOLO too..

Alex

@Mithrandir Reminds me of my post about why the initial version is called a revision.

Mithrandir

@Alex <insert the "Pedant of the Pedant" thing here>

Alex

Indeed.

EKons

11:40 PM

alright... I feel like there's a monsoon outside rn...

Shadow Wizard

Nah that's just Shog realizing someone took his beer.

EKons

lol... there's no beer in my house

just subsided a bit

...or not, dunno

Shadow Wizard

Strong wind and rain?

Here is cause electricity to go down really fast.

Couple of years ago such storms caused big parts of Israel to stay dark for long days... four days for me, some didn't have electricity for two weeks (!).

Part of it was because those who could fix it went on a strike to get better salary, saying they work too hard. And they have the best salary in Israel. :/

And of course.... they got what they wanted.

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