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Shadow Wizard

8:00 AM

@Tinkeringbell yup. So, a meeting. How many people are there?

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!!/coffee Tinkering

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Shadow Wizard

@JNat daily network spammer for you... thanks! :)

and myself

@ShadowWizard a short & quick overview on each member progress and today's target... or something like that

(at least that's what we do in "daily scrum meeting")

Shadow Wizard

@andmyself yeah, guess it's what all companies have, with one name or another, just wondering how many people attend that meeting in @Tinker's place. ;)

and myself

8:05 AM

@ShadowWizard ... 1 :(

Shadow Wizard

For my company it's just called "meeting" or sometimes "staff meeting". :)

rene

delv-pls 20K robot meta.stackexchange.com/questions/318318/… /cc @ShadowWizard @Bart @Glorfindel

Shadow Wizard

@rene kabong

and myself

stand-up meeting with rubber duck :/

Shadow Wizard

@andmyself that's... shower. Good to know. :D

I removed half, feel free to remove all other indications. @rene @Glorfindel. Thanks! ;)

Should I post self answer once the tag is burninated? Or one of you two?

@and thanks for joining the burnination! ;)

rene

8:25 AM

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and myself

> Questions tagged [indication]: 0 questions

Shadow Wizard

yay!

@rene kaboom

plz-delete regex meta.stackexchange.com/questions/318333/bug-regexp-like-fro-jpa @rene @Glorfindel

!!/trogdor

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@ShadowWizard No such command 'trogdor'.

Derpy

kickstarter.com/projects/1999933720/trogdor-the-board-game

and myself

oooh... feature request related to downvote... grabs popcorn

Derpy

8:38 AM

@andmyself this one?

and myself

yeah

Derpy

Sadly, by now the culture on the network has "evolved" to a point where users think they are entitled to vote as they wish. Votes, originally meant to be a way to increase visibility of good content, aren't in any way bound to be used in the "correct" way. Often, jokes are made to dismiss and make fun of the problem, like "you were downvoted because Tim lost his keys" or other similar recurring memes... Anyway, I fear the best suggestion I can give you is only one, very pessimistic: drop this, very few are interested in enforcing "correct" voting, and you'll avoid a lot of stress this way. — SPArchaeologist 12 mins ago

btw......

Shadow Wizard

@Derpy nice! Wonder if anyone already burned the wooden miniatures... ;-)

Derpy

the Trogdor boardgame would be a very nice swag prize

Shadow Wizard

Indeed.

rene

8:46 AM

@ShadowWizard gone

Derpy

which reminds me...

@Mithrandir still no sign of the Cheese Mail, right?

Mithrandir

right

Shadow Wizard

8:58 AM

restraining self from commenting on that

Derpy

on what?

the Stackechange branded ~~Ouija~~ Cheese board?

and myself

@ShadowWizard oops, I just commented...

Shadow Wizard

...

fighting restraints

Derpy

9:16 AM

@ShadowWizard Resistance is futile.

and myself

@ShadowWizard Ignorance is bliss.

Shadow Wizard

still resisting

and myself

Resistance is bliss, ignorance is futile.

Derpy

Give in to the dark side. We have twitter posts!

and myself

Soon™️ on Twitter: Stack Exchange bullies me for proposing wonderful idea on normalizing downvote based on conformation bias!!!!

(forgot the exclamation marks)

JNat

9:22 AM

@ShadowWizard all gone ;)

and myself

that said, I haven't been stalking network-wide meta since 2 days ago...

Shadow Wizard

@JNat thanks!

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9:34 AM

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Shadow Wizard

poking @public with a static void main

poking @Andras with a dynamic void main

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9:52 AM

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Shadow Wizard

10:08 AM

@andmyself what's this blue dot in Chrome tab title? I remember you once mentioned them.

It just appears when tab is not in focus and disappear when it is in focus.

and myself

@ShadowWizard the site pushes an update, but my concern is with Chrome's native pinned tab, not normal tab.

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Shadow Wizard

@andmyself oh. But there is no change.

It's a print form.

and myself

@_@;

Shadow Wizard

Just a result of window.print() command.

Bug?

watching SU

and myself

10:11 AM

uhh,,, I can't comment on that then ._.

Tinkeringbell

@ShadowWizard 6 :)

forest

Quick question: Is it against the ToS to call for banning gay marriage and call homosexuals evil and "detestable"?

Shadow Wizard

@Tinkeringbell that's the whole infamous team #3? ;)

and myself

@Tinkeringbell took a while for stand-up to finish...

Mithrandir

@forest yes

forest

10:12 AM

@Mithrandir Even if it's on the Christianity Stack Exchange?

Shadow Wizard

@forest it's against the CoC, yes. Flag as rude.

Tinkeringbell

@ShadowWizard Yep. A Product owner, business analist, scrum master, 2 developers( including me) and 2 testers . So technically 7 :P

forest

> As one who has a vested interest in not rejecting God, I do not want my government, acting on my behalf, endorsing that which I detest.

Like that sort of thing.

Mithrandir

pretty much, yes; the ToS includes the CoC, which that would appear to violate

link?

Tinkeringbell

Nov 8 at 9:43, by Tinkeringbell

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!‌!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Shadow Wizard

10:13 AM

lol

forest

@Mithrandir christianity.stackexchange.com/a/7601

Shadow Wizard

@Tinkeringbell lucky 7!

forest

It's not downright abusive, but it is still calling homosexuality detestable.

Shadow Wizard

oh, old answers. That's something else. Thought you talk about comments.

Mithrandir

in... that context it's a bit iffy, but I'd say that can slide

Shadow Wizard

10:14 AM

IMO just leave those old answers alone.

forest

OK

Mithrandir

it's presented in a respectful enough manner

forest

The religious sites always contain the... weirdest things.

Hell I even saw something promoting wife-beating recently.

Derpy

@ShadowWizard I think you will fall in the "holy field of theology".

Shadow Wizard

Digging old skeletons from their grave will only cause harm with no benefit.

forest

10:15 AM

By a moderator, no less.

@ShadowWizard Can't tell if that was intended to be dark irony...

Shadow Wizard

@forest this time it's not. :)

Derpy

Basically, you can say what you wish, only requirement is that you pass it as "being part of the religion/culture/whatever" you were talking about and not a personal endorsement.

forest

The person who posted that answer died, so it seemed like it was. :P

Tinkeringbell

@ShadowWizard Unhappy 7, more likely :P

Magisch

morning

forest

10:18 AM

morning

Derpy

So, for example, you can say that "teaching xyz condones [insert evil thing here]" but probably you could be reported if you say that "you condone [insert evil thing here]"

Obviously, this works on paper...

forest

I wish there were a way to flag without signing up to the site. :/

I don't want to be seen on Islam.SE just to report someone saying why wife-beating is good if your wife isn't subservient.

Derpy

keep waiting

Shadow Wizard

@forest there is. Hint: a bird.

and it works much better and faster than flags.

</rant>

forest

Ah good point.

Shadow Wizard

10:20 AM

watching Christianity site closed in 10... 9... 8...

forest

Hey I wouldn't be against that. That and Islam sites have a lot of...

objectionable content, to say the least.

Magisch

can y'all just not

Derpy

I think that is someone was to start a tweet about some of that thorny stuff...

forest

Actually that's not a bad idea.

Mithrandir

*long sigh*

Derpy

10:21 AM

this would be the time SE shuts down

so let the thorny stuff stay were it is now.

forest

"Am I allowed to beat my wife if she doesn't <insert some barely pronounceable thing here>?" "Yes it's acceptable, as the <holy book> says women must obey their husbands." linked in a tweet would do the job. lol

Mithrandir

Let's not get into this now please

forest

lol ok

Mithrandir

religion sites do sometimes deal with concepts that in a modern context sound strange. that doesn't mean that it's actually practiced in the modern day; abstract discussions do happen. debating whether or not those should happen belongs on their meta, not here

forest

I'm pretty sure saying that wife beating is acceptable and encouraged as long as you don't break bones is... not acceptable in any modern context.

(And yeah, it is practiced in the modern day, unfortunately. Hopefully never because of an encouraging post on SE...)

Derpy

10:24 AM

Some say that allowing for sites like Life Hacks or Medical Advice was a bad idea. Actually, having religion themed sites was probably a worse one. Drawing a line between religion and inquisition, exposition and promotion is just hard.

And probably something I wouldn't have had to meddle with, IF I were the one to decide.

but it is too late now.

forest

In general SE is supposed to be a repository of information, not of superstition. But you're right, it is too late now (though it's always possible to be a little more strict and not have site-specific moderators who actively encourage wife beating).

Tinkeringbell

@forest And the religion sites are that, repositories of information on how different religions look at different 'problems'.

rene

@forest if you keep going on that beating theme I'll kick you from this room.

and that crossed the line

Can we now move on to a different topic? Thanks

and myself

mass-cutting forest...

Tinkeringbell

I could scream again?

rene

10:28 AM

→ 1 message moved to Trashcan

forest

OK OK, I'll use less offensive examples.

and myself

@Tinkeringbell this time, without "A"?

forest

@rene Was the issue that it was offensive or could be triggering? I'm genuinely curious so I know what exactly to avoid doing. I can use less upsetting examples when reporting or mentioning problematic behavior on the site if that is required.

Tinkeringbell

@andmyself EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK‌KKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!?

2

I messed that one up. The AAAAHHHH looked much better on the star board :P

Anyways.

We have this wonderful scrum mistress.

master? What's the female version of scrum master?

and myself

that's.... a good question... I think...

rene

10:32 AM

@forest your examples are just off-limits. And not needed. And not here in this room. And you were told so by at least two RO's before I stepped in. Continuing on that path contributed to my action as you didn't seem to be eager to stop.

Tinkeringbell

She has just spent half an hour pushing us to 'find a way to finish this sprint'. While DTAP-street issues and processes are going to make it impossible to do so. But, in a true agile way, of course the processes go first!

Sooooo...

I'm not allowed to help by manually propagating changes between Development, Test, Acceptation and Production

I'm not allowed to help the testers with their workload

I'm not allowed to pull any new programming work into this sprint either

So basically we won't get this sprint done because I'll be eating from my nose.

rene

Yes, calling a sprint a miss is hard ...

and myself

'find a way to finish this sprint' -> 'drop all current sprint targets' :)

Tinkeringbell

@andmyself We're not allowed to do that either :P

rene

@Tinkeringbell wait. what? Are they on your team?

Tinkeringbell

10:35 AM

@rene Yep. 2 devs, 2 dedicated testers. Bogus team.

No automated tests either.

I guess it's time to shout that it's only 26 more workdays after this one ;)

rene

but then you should be allowed to help the testers ....

"SINO" it is ...

Tinkeringbell

@rene Tell that to miss scrum master

and the product owner btw.

@rene Probably, yeah. And I thought we were doing so well :/

rene

The scrum master should be managing the external blocking issues while the team still makes progress.

as long as they focus on adding business value

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Tinkeringbell

@rene Well... She's kinda both. She wants to be in the middle of everything but I don't get the impression she's actually able to allow us to make progress.

I'm used to be on a much more independent team. This is really, really stifling.

Derpy

10:53 AM

@Tinkeringbell does she care about the success of the work? Does she want to make something actually working? Or she just need to justify her work and push responsibility over someone else?

forest

Well at least that gave me some time to half-finish some code.

Gah, where the hell do I find the room rules? (can someone link it?)

Mithrandir

here

rene

we don't have specific rules. We use common sense.

Shadow Wizard

@Derpy no. Just shrink back to SOFU.

forest

I didn't know that mentioning <what was mentioned> was unacceptable. My bad.

I would appreciate a more specific warning in the future, since I had stopped talking about <what was talked about> but still got kicked. I'm not very good at guessing what things people are uncomfortable around if it's not patently offensive. Apologies to anyone who might have been triggered or upset at anything negative I mentioned. I will avoid mentioning upsetting or heavy topics from now on.

Shadow Wizard

11:09 AM

@forest common sense and the CoC. :)

forest

Well, the CoC I know I was following at least. :P

Shadow Wizard

And "listen to Room Owners" is also a common sense rule.

forest

How do you tell who is a room owner?

Shadow Wizard

Name in italics.

Blue is mod, italics RO.

forest

All I saw was one person say not to mention bea****, then kicked me even after I stopped. So I couldn't tell who did what.

@ShadowWizard Oh that makes sense.

Shadow Wizard

11:11 AM

@forest yep chat got some sense. :)

forest

I still prefer IRC where an ASCII symbol is prepended to names. :P

Plus then you can PM ops to ask for clarification.

And/or suck up to another op in the room who sympathizes. lol

and myself

^rene

rene

@forest let's say that the escalating nature of your messages to inflict pain on humans were disturbing. You playing innocent now isn't appreciated either, at least not by me.

forest

@rene You might have misunderstood me. I was never advocating those things and think they are reprehensible. I was talking about how upsetting it was to see a moderator on another SE site advocating them.

rene

And we have asked you to stop.

So let's do that

forest

11:16 AM

OK, then please try to explain in a private message rather than here (otherwise it looks like trying to force the last word / refuse to clear up misunderstandings). I would be happy to understand the actual situation in private.

So, on to a new topic...

rene

@forest there is no private here and I'm not going to rehash what I already said

forest

I thought you could create a custom room for individuals?

rene

sure, that is still not private

forest

Anyway, it appears you have misunderstood what I had said or my intentions. I just wanted to clear that up so there isn't any further tension (I don't condone bad stuff).

rene

great

forest

11:18 AM

Oh I get what you mean. I meant private like, direct and out of the way.

Shadow Wizard

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google-chrome

@andmyself ^

Let's see if anyone can solve this weirdness...

@forest we can create new rooms for one-on-one discussion that better not litter existing room, but those rooms won't be private. Anyone can see them, and if the room isn't Gallery, anyone can also write in there. It is useful, e.g. that's how I brought @publicstaticvoidmain in here. /cc @rene :)

So even in those rooms, we must keep the CoC and guidelines.

forest

@ShadowWizard Yeah I don't mind that it's not private. I just don't want to risk getting banned for attempting to clear up a misunderstanding (which I'm sure would happen if I had explained what I had said and why it was misunderstood).

Shadow Wizard

Only moderators can create real private rooms, that ordinary users can't access unless invited by the moderator.

forest

But I don't know the name for those rooms and am used to the term "private message" to describe a 1-on-1 communication.

Shadow Wizard

@forest no official/common name. I call them "one on one rooms".

forest

11:30 AM

huh

Shadow Wizard

@forest so you can create such a room and invite those you want, can also be more than one. Just don't push it, if those you invite not showing up, let it go.

You can invite users via their chat profile.

(i.e. you don't have to post here)

forest

Sure, and I doubt he would show up anyway. I just didn't want the understanding that I was sending "messages promoting hurting people" or whatever uncorrected.

I tried that before but it appears to have changed locations. Where is it now?

Shadow Wizard

@forest where is what?

forest

Wait nevermind. The button to create a new room. It must have just disappeared while I was temporarily suspended.

Shadow Wizard

Yup while chat banned you can't create new rooms.

forest

11:33 AM

Ah makes sense. Thought I could since I could still chat on other site rooms.

Shadow Wizard

@forest you mean different chat domain. You could create rooms there just fine.

forest

I probably should have realized that lol

Shadow Wizard

MSE chat has its own 100% independant domain and server.

Derpy

3

forest

huh

lmao

Shadow Wizard

11:34 AM

That's @Derpy being artistic while sending a message. ;)

forest

It's ironic that Twitter probably is actually the best place to cause change. :D

Mithrandir

@forest If you've been kicked three times you get blocked from creating new rooms, I believe. I can't check if you've hit that without mod tools, though.

Shadow Wizard

If it works for worldwide things, why not SE, heh? :)

Derpy

The above image should sum up our current chat status, and give you a pretty good idea about why you shouldn't mention "yokai" here

Shadow Wizard

@Mithrandir blocked forever? :/

Mithrandir

11:36 AM

@ShadowWizard forever or until a mod clears it, I think

that might only kick in when you've reached the point where a kick lasts 30 minutes

pun intended

forest

@Mithrandir I think I have. Was kicked once from a room for... I forget what, I think arguing with someone. And here I was kicked twice, once for hitting submit the split second after I was told to drop it, and another time because the ro thought I was promoting violence rather than condemning it a second later.

Shadow Wizard

@Mithrandir buh... so complicated. giving up

forest

@Mithrandir Well my kick did last 30 minutes. :D

Shadow Wizard

So you might indeed be banned from creating new rooms, @forest.

forest

Lemme test that out, one sec.

Shadow Wizard

11:39 AM

oh. You can. lol

Got your invite. :)

forest

OK looks like it worked.

Yeah I just said testing.

Mithrandir

chat.meta.stackexchange.com/admin/user-permissions/384528

forest

@Mithrandir That shows as 404 for me. Must be mod-only.

Shadow Wizard

@Mithrandir 404, even when I put my own ID. What's that?

Mithrandir

Yep. Even I can't see it.

Tinkeringbell

11:40 AM

@Derpy She wants us to reach goals. She also only wants us to reach that goal her way ;)

forest

What does that imply?

Mithrandir

That's where someone with a diamond on this chat server would check if you can create rooms or not.

forest

Ah

Derpy

@Tinkeringbell her goals?

Tinkeringbell

@Derpy Not only 'hers'... goal here is e.g. also a story we said we'd finish this sprint ;)

forest

11:43 AM

Need to read scroll log more fully. :P

Shadow Wizard

At least not backlock. ;)

Derpy

@Tinkeringbell there is a great difference in working with someone and working using someone. I was wondering what is your situation, for I know the second one is far more common.

Tinkeringbell

The problem is here is partially that nothing is automated, and partially that she's counting storypoints as workdays.

@Derpy Definitely the second, while pretending the first.

Shadow Wizard

I think I still have a story I started 2 years ago running and not finished. lol

and myself

@Derpy yokai watch

Derpy

11:46 AM

@Tinkeringbell welcome to the club then.

Tinkeringbell

@Derpy I know. We just had a really nice lunch and we spent it ranting :P

rene

@Tinkeringbell :/

Tinkeringbell

@rene I'm having sooo much fun! :D

Derpy

@andmyself well, our chat room right now can probably be also summed up to another image.

This one.

forest

<3 Uboa

Derpy

11:53 AM

4 starred messages? Must be an academy record.

rene

any MSO reopen voters that want to review this? Needs 2 more votes. OP will self answer.

that is solved

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Tinkeringbell

Screaming in the same chatroom thrice a day is a bit much, isn't it?

Shadow Wizard

Depends.

Derpy

12:10 PM

oh, hi Queen @doppelgreener

no changeling here, only ponies and parrots

doppelgreener

hoi!

How can you be so sure? :D

Tinkeringbell

@Derpy That sounds like a really bad parody on dungeons and dragons :P

doppelgreener

XD

Derpy

@Tinkeringbell which one?

@Tinkeringbell Btw, there is an official MLP tabletop rpg.

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doppelgreener

12:20 PM

@Derpy Is that an actual produced official one, or the april fools gag?

Derpy

amazon.com/Little-Pony-Tails-Equestria-Core/dp/1626926190

oh, no longer onebox?

oh, well

doppelgreener

Oh, fantastic

Derpy

ignore the free Bart-tongue on the cover, first image on google search

@doppelgreener the character card has a space for "drawing and coloring your pony"

so... I guess that either the actual game took that idea from the original show episode or the opposite

As far as I saw, it is pretty close to Fate

doppelgreener

awwww :D

that's a great thing to have

Derpy

they even call them talents and quirks.

Tinkeringbell

12:32 PM

So that's what a naked pony looks like?

Shadow Wizard

Aren't they all?

Tinkeringbell

@ShadowWizard Apparently, some wear wigs? This one doesn't look like it has a tail or any hair. And the one's in that other image are wearing some kind of armor

Derpy

I doubt the term "pony base" would trigger any clue, right?

Tinkeringbell

@Derpy ;) Just kidding. If we take it too far, let us know.

Derpy

don't worry.

Tinkeringbell

12:47 PM

Okay, I won't ;)

Derpy

@Tinkeringbell btw, know that there was an episode that featured a made up rumor that the tails of a pony was actually an extension.

Derpy

1:08 PM

.... and the room is silent again

time to sleep

Tinkeringbell

Sleep well. I'm going to bang my head on this desk for a while ;)

and myself

The meaningful silent

Derpy

> Said the master: “You seek to determine whether truth is regarded as the presence of a one, or the absence of a zero.”

Said the God of the Silence Between Words: “The absence of a zero implies a presence. The presence of a zero implies an absence. When the serpent devours its tail up to the tip of its tongue, then what remains?”

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Andras Deak

1:51 PM

@ShadowWizard no poke mon

Shadow Wizard

Too late you're already poked!

@Tinkeringbell what desk?

oh wait. @Andras did you mean #PokeMonday? :P

Andras Deak

sounds like the perfect game for ^ that guy

Derpy

or her

Andras Deak

2:06 PM

Is that an SE moderator? Judging from the diamond on their forehead

Mithrandir

no comment

Derpy

that is an eye, not a diamond.

still, very strange since she has 6 eyes, not three.

so that single "diamond" is not a single eye.

it is four closed eyes, somehow taking that shape.

yep, you know, DC

artwork consistence

Andras Deak

oh, that's the whatshername, the one who is so bad in the new series or something?

or it's the other someone who I've seen here and there

raven?

Tinkeringbell

@ShadowWizard This one!

Derpy

2:22 PM

@AndrasDeak ? what?? but, yep, that one is indeed Raven

doppelgreener

if you're referencing the new live-action Titans TV series, everyone is bad in that because it is bad

Andras Deak

I prefer the real Raven

Derpy

Do you realize that one is Marvel, one is DC?

Andras Deak

Noooooo

(yes)

If it were Marvel I'd be slightly more familiar with it. You know, on account of marvel being better

Derpy

considering that Tera was almost totally rewritten from the original meh character to the one in the animated "jp" show, I suspected your message was a joke about that

Andras Deak

2:28 PM

I understood some of those words

Derpy

(and I still suspect that Terra is the main reason that animated show was cancelled, but that is another story)

Andras Deak

Terabytes the dust?

Derpy

this one

Andras Deak

yeah, with one r I get weird (tentacly) results

Was "love me" etched into the ground behind her on that cover? Hehe, that's horrible

I'm sure there's context I'm missing

Derpy

I am not a big fan of American superhero comics, so I can't really reply.

What I can tell, is that the first Teen Titans show is a product of a collaboration between America and some Japanese studio

Apparently, they took some liberty with the original scripts and background stories of the characters

as a result, the final product seems to be far more "anime" like than other superhero cartoons

I know that Terra backstory and character progression in that show is very different from the one she has in the original comics.

that show was also suddenly dropped and left without an ending

I think that some form of "executive meedling" may have been involved

I know that Disney is very famous for "censoring" plots that go against established status-quo

I don't know if DC is the same.

Journeyman Geek

2:45 PM

the new titans seems good

Derpy

@JourneymanGeek define "new titans"

and please, don't use the word "Go!"

Journeyman Geek

@Derpy live action show

its grimdark a little

but they're actually doing a pretty good job at charecter development IMO

Shadow Wizard

@Tinkeringbell I don't see it

Tinkeringbell

@ShadowWizard You never will, it is my desk. Not yours ;)

Shadow Wizard

@Tinkeringbell is it really yours? Did you pay for it?

Journeyman Geek

2:50 PM

oh ya

Tinkeringbell

@ShadowWizard It is mine, I've laid claim to it. It's called theft.

Derpy

@JourneymanGeek I missed that trailer. And I wish it stayed that way.

Shadow Wizard

@Tinkeringbell did you mark your territory on the table?

Tinkeringbell

@ShadowWizard Course I did! I put empty coffee cups on all four corners.

Shadow Wizard

@Tinkeringbell aren't those cups falling when you bang your head on the desk?

Tinkeringbell

2:52 PM

@ShadowWizard Nah, it's a really good desk. Really stable. More stable than me at the moment :P

Shadow Wizard

@Tinkeringbell Good. So just don't break it. ;)

What's on your stable desk? @Tink

Tinkeringbell

@ShadowWizard 4 empty coffee cups and my head?

Shadow Wizard

Oh, so that is your "BANG YOUR HEAD HERE!" desk. Nice.

Anyone should have such a desk.

People bang their head into things they actually need then rant about how it breaks them. :D

Tinkeringbell

(gotta run. We'll talk head banging desks more tonight if you like :P)

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Shadow Wizard

2:55 PM

omg someone was faster than me at closing as duplicate!! o_O

@Tinkeringbell of course I'd like! Cya! :D

user1271772

@ShadowWizard which question was it?

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