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jo1storm

12:14 AM

@πάνταῥεῖ indeed. Do you want to hear the saddest thing about this whole issue?

πάντα ῥεῖ

No

jo1storm

I haven't seen the moderator message.

Shadow Wizard

@jo1storm well to be serious for a second, lots of people get punished these days for things they did lots of years ago as result of #MeToo. Bad things, but 30 years back guess things were much different.

jo1storm

@ShadowWizard I am not going political on this chat.

Shadow Wizard

That is not political... But yeah can see your point.

My point is that sometimes we do pay for past mistakes even if it is not fair.

@πάνταῥεῖ no expert in Yoda speech I am, too lazy using a tool me. ;)

So consider this as Shadow Speech! :P

jo1storm

12:19 AM

@ShadowWizard There is such thing as intentional crimes.

Anyway, as I was saying... Moderators send me a message. I don't reply to it, because I am not logged in. Once I log in, my account is already temporarily suspended. I see bunch of edits on my answers. Then, 10 edits down, after a lot of scrolling, I see a message.

Thing is, because I didn't see it there and I didn't know how to appeal ban, I already opened a ticket on meta. I wouldn't even have seen it if I didn't come to this chat and somebody told me there was a message from moderators there.

πάντα ῥεῖ

@ShadowWizard Point of fairness is arguable.

@ShadowWizard Me neither an expert is :)

jo1storm

@πάνταῥεῖ fairness, justice, law... All those things are so separated from one another.

Shadow Wizard

@jo1storm you should also got email about it. Maybe it reached your spam folder, or you use a fake/wrong email address.

jo1storm

@ShadowWizard got a mail. Only checked mail after opened a ticket.

@ShadowWizard no link towards message in the body of the mail they sent me.

Literally

the only way to access the message is from notification.

Shadow Wizard

@jo1storm so what else you expect? How would you make it more noticeable?

πάντα ῥεῖ

12:22 AM

justice isn't equivalent to fairness. I believe that's one of the fundamental things tought at the basic Jura semesters, no?

Shadow Wizard

If you have solid idea, start a feature request asking for this, bringing your case as example why it is needed.

πάντα ῥεῖ

@ShadowWizard A prototype justice case. That well follows the UK/US legal system.

jo1storm

@ShadowWizard two ways. 1) in the body of the mail, attach link where I can reply to that notification 2) among notifications, I would put messages from moderators on top, always, with edits coming after those. In addition, I would make message from moderators different color than other notifications 3) I would make a different area with only those messages. Right now, I can't see how you can access those messages except via notification the same color and shape as "Edited answer".

Seriously, look at this. A moderator edited my answer 3 times after the message. Then 5 more different answers after it. Message from moderators is the same colors as "answer edited."

Seriously, if you click on your profile, you can't find messages from moderators anywhere. You can only go there if you click on notification. And if that notification is buried 12 edits deep...

I really wish I have seen it earlier :( . Wouldn't have escalated to meta ticketing system if I have.

πάντα ῥεῖ

12:50 AM

@jo1storm That kind of mod messages regarding bans are usually sent by email as well.

Hi @journey BTW. Another night shift?

Shadow Wizard

@jo1storm sounds like a good idea, feel free to start a feature request on MSE. :)

2 hours ago, by πάντα ῥεῖ

@publicstaticvoidmain Avoid that please!!! Such behavior already had been contributing to chase important users away from this room.

;-)

πάντα ῥεῖ

@ShadowWizard Unless you're sure the particular user won't be annoyed ;)

@ShadowWizard That's blatant sarcasm, and you well know it you bitch!

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