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12:14 AM

parenting.stackexchange.com/q/30288/7017. Suggested method: Send her a text that says "Hey, check out this cool site: parenting.stackexchange.com/q/30288 "

user315433

12:44 AM

You should be ashamed of yourself, doing a kid's homework to earn fake internet points. — Air ♦ Mar 14 at 15:47

user315433

too chatty?

user315433

Engineering is otherwise a pretty quiet site.

Jason C

1:17 AM

How come sometimes when I ask a question on SO, linked and related are missing entirely from the sidebar? Is that normal?

Oh wait actually, nevermind, I think it just takes a few seconds for it to be generated for a new question.

Shog9

1:29 AM

...someone has a very skewed idea of poker

user315433

To be fair, the question did mention a backdoor.

user315433

ELU got late into the game, but got 4K views anyway: What does “covfefe” exactly mean?

Jon Ericson

As always, I question the newsworthiness of Twitter.

user315433

1:44 AM

Not clear if the question will be closed (it's asked by a mod after all) but protecting it would make all the sense... flagged.

user202362

clown show produced a new word, crowds doped

user202362

I tried to find the meaning too, then I found the history ... and feel doped

Jason C

2:05 AM

@JNat If you find it useful, you're welcome to edit anime.meta.stackexchange.com/questions/4050/… into your announcement.

user315433

Joel has a new photo on the management page: cdn.sstatic.net/Sites/stackoverflow/company/Img/management/big/…

user315433

I didn't notice before they have larger picture linked to the headshot. stackoverflow.com/company/management

user315433

Hm, 3781 by 5664 px

user315433

Suitable for a large framed portrait, I'll think about putting one up.

Jason C

@Gerry Tell me where you put it up, I'll think about vandalizing it. I have sharpies.

user315433

2:16 AM

Use MS Paint, it's easier...

Jason C

But less real and therefore less satisfying.

And also too NSFW to be posted here.

Plus I still might apply for a job, lol.

user315433

Speaking of SE/SO management, one of the people on that page found a #lifehack today:

user315433

> Turns out that bitters DO settle an upset stomach. Just in a slightly faster and more exciting way than I was expecting -- Alex Miller at 6:39 PM - 31 May 2017

Shog9

Sour apples also work for this... Purpose

user202362

2:31 AM

@Gerry unless J cat uses mac instead

user202362

in which the case, he can use paintbrush or gimp

user202362

also the idea of 'I want to work for company X, but I really can't stand their CEO' kind of statements does not compute

user315433

There are 15 sites where /q/1 is deleted. From the earliest to the most recent deletion, they are Sound Design, Theoretical Computer Science, Personal Finance & Money, Video Production, Skeptics, Stack Overflow, Personal Productivity, Christianity, Physical Fitness, Cryptography, Computer Science, Stack Overflow em Português, Data Science, Health, Ethereum.

user315433

SO waited until 2011 to get rid of its /q/1

user315433

Of these, Data Science /q/1 had the highest score (24) and Ethereum the lowest (-7)

user202362

2:38 AM

I need to stop wasting time on chats

user315433

Among the non-deleted first posts, Android has the highest-scoring one, at 265: I've rooted my phone. Now what? What do I gain from rooting?

user315433

The lowest score for a non-deleted q1 is held by MO: Ignore this question

user315433

SEDE says that Patents site also has q/1 with score of 0, but the link redirects to... site tour. ??? patents.stackexchange.com/q/1

user315433

I see: its tour is customized, so some bits of it were created as posts before the site started off.

user202362

3:22 AM

Aqua - Barbie Girl

►

Derpy

8:04 AM

@JasonC are you online by any chance?

rene

It is his bed-time ...

Derpy

no room owner then.

rene

8:55 AM

@Derpy yeah, there is no 24/7 RO coverage ...

I'm seriously thinking we're being trolled here ...

Derpy

I could ask a staff member, but I wouldn't want to start a bigger tantrum

which reminds me....

@Oded What about changing the "♦" to "💎" since you are called "diamond mods"? More colorful.

rene

Does IE11 already support those?

Derpy

(also, are diamond mods poachers too? And do they hide behind trees?)

@rene Does StackExchange support IE?

rene

9:29 AM

@Derpy based on this I say yes.

Derpy

> we support the last two versions of the browsers that we see the vast majority of our visitors actually use

Bart

@rene maybe he doesn't understand what counts as a condition for test failure?

Derpy

@rene do IE qualify? Last time I checked Wikipedia, IE page just had a redirect link to "Scourge"

rene

@Derpy I'm not going to make statements about the support of IE because I have been called out before by SE Staff for making the wrong claims.

@Bart that is probably true but that is not what the question asks.

Journeyman Geek

12:54 PM

@Derpy woof?

Jason C

1:48 PM

@Derpy what's up

→ 12 messages moved to Chimney

hi

Good morning

evening...

Night

and it looks like I need to work saturdays, and my "I'll come in early cause classrooms need setting up" might end up in me being expected to work extra time ._.

Jason C

1:53 PM

Dude

Every day this job sounds a little more fun, lol

Journeyman Geek

(unpaid, and seriously, the only reason I didn't tell em no is the new manager might actually be able to fix this madhouse out. Or quit. I could use a good reference)

@JasonC I believe at one point I might have muttered "this job is going to kill me" under my breath. A few times. Today

going to see if I can push out some applications over the weekend. With my parents away, I also end up needing to keep the dog mostly happy and fed.

also, according to my watch, I'm walking 14k steps, or about 9km a day....

(its probably the same distance I'd take to walk from home to work and back, and about 5k more than when I was essentially going from one end of marina bay sands to the other a few times a day)

.... actually, wasn't HR asking me about my times in my first week?

... ok, at some point I might just wait for them to notice and see what happens ;p

(I was at work 8 to 6.30 at one point. HR realised I was exceeding my contracted hours and... asked me to clarify)

anyway, lulzy stuff... apparently our PBX system has a certain setting that makes it play bad, 90s phone style ringtones...

in a loop

the lady at the front desk was like "can you stop the phone singing?" .... I was like "er... I don't do phones usually but you have my interest"

turns out on those panasonics, if you press and hold down 1, it stops..

user202362

2:10 PM

have you already had your first pay check?

Journeyman Geek

yup

Not banked it yet tho

need to do that over the weekend

user202362

lol, no electronic transfer?

Journeyman Geek

Yeah, I was a little suprised by that

Jason C

@JourneymanGeek Probably a good plan, lol

@JourneymanGeek Also: wat

Phones sing?

Also, I was craving milano cookies all night last night and I just bought some and opened the package and it turned out I accidentally bought milano minis. Which, I had no idea existed.

Journeyman Geek

@JasonC apparently those things have a random backtround music feature.

Jason C

2:21 PM

I can't tell if I'm disappointed or not. They're... not nearly as satisfying.

Journeyman Geek

fixya.com/support/t1370983-panasonic_kx_t7730_plays_music_when

2

Jason C

Haha

That's so absurd

Journeyman Geek

@JasonC its... annoying

it placs something in a loop

._.

Jason C

Not the most flattering picture. But they're very weird.

Why?

What is the actual goal of it doing that, lol

Journeyman Geek

Beats me!

Jason C

2:23 PM

Just to make the office more pleasant?

Journeyman Geek

errr

it freaks out people

I have no idea. I think its primarily meant as a tool for breaking one's will to live ;p

Jason C

The manual doesn't seem to mention it

Haha

Derpy

@JasonC sorry was away. Please, no need to flag or start the usual tantrum but... move that cat image near Shog "sour apple" message if you didn't already.

Jason C

It makes exactly one casual reference:

DIALING BUTTONS WITH BACKLIGHT
(KX-T7731/36): Dialing buttons are backlit
when (1) you receive a call, (2) during a
conversation, or (3) when BGM is activated
at your phone

→ 1 message moved to Chimney

Journeyman Geek

man, speaking of cookies

its been ages since I've had chocolate hobnobs ;p

Jason C

2:31 PM

Oh they don't have hobnobs here I wonder what the equivalent is

Journeyman Geek

there isn't really one

Yanno those chocolate covered digestives?

I suppose that's kinda similar, but hobnobs have a very different texture

Jason C

The hobnobs, are they chewy or crunchy

Journeyman Geek

somewhat crumbly

Hobnob biscuit

Hobnobs is the brand name of a commercial biscuit. They are made from rolled oats and jumbo oats, similar to a flapjack/digestive biscuit hybrid. Among the most popular British biscuits, McVitie's launched Hobnobs in 1985 and a milk chocolate variant in 1987. They are primarily sold in the United Kingdom, the Isle of Man and Ireland but are available in Australia, New Zealand and several European and Asian countries (e.g. Taiwan and Hong Kong). In Italy they are now marketed as a variety of digestive biscuit, having previously been known as Suncrok. They were also released in Canada in November...

Jason C

Already there lol

Journeyman Geek

I mean, they're tasty

but milk chocolate ... maaaaan

Jason C

2:34 PM

It looks like they're in canada. I miss the days where there were virtually zero border controls at the canada border.

Journeyman Geek

lol

Jason C

"Reason for your visit?" "I need to stop at walmart real quick"

Journeyman Geek

Yeah, the good old days, when roving gangs of bootleggers would cross the border with hobnobs and irn bru...

Jason C

Lol

Journeyman Geek

Another thing I miss.

oh and pizza oil.

Jason C

2:36 PM

Whoa

Journeyman Geek

which I attempt to replicate from memory every few years.

Jason C

Cold pressed from italy's finest hand-picked organically grown pizzas?

Journeyman Geek

naw, its actually probably fairly neutral oil

with a bunch of dried herbs in it

Jason C

Is it the oil that comes off a pizza?

Journeyman Geek

naw

its something you eat with pizza

Jason C

2:38 PM

Or something you put on your pizza to reduce friction

And keep it from rusting

Pizza oil: Lubricates, cleans and protects

Journeyman Geek

hmm

I think it has a a stalk of thyme in it, and dried chillies...

Jason C

They say you should regularly oil your pizzas annually, it's pizza care 101.

Journeyman Geek

oddly...

I NEVER ATE IT WITH PIZZA.

Jason C

dun dun DUNNNNNNNNNNNNNN

Journeyman Geek

(I throw it on fairly neutral instant noodles)

and holy cow, its been a long time

Jason C

2:41 PM

Fairly neutral oil on fairly neutral noodles. Sounds... fairly neutral, lol.

Journeyman Geek

naw

you'd have thyme, bay leaves and other spices ...

Jason C

I jest

Journeyman Geek

so the oil was pretty herby/spicy

My varient actually uses olive oil, so it tends to not be neutral at all

Oh and coriander!

Jason C

In actuality I am intrigued by this pizza oil, but I can't find much info about it. Or at least I'm not sure if what I've found is what you describe.

Hmm

Thyme chillies and coriander; sounds good but why is it called pizza oil?

When I think pizza oil I think, like, oregano, basil

Journeyman Geek

lol

You're thinking oil from pizzas!

Jason C

2:43 PM

Well, or oil designed to impart the sensation of a pizza

Journeyman Geek

Chances are I got this in europe - the UK or france most likely

This is almost as bad as my obsessesion with the seeded batch loaf ;p

Jason C

Lol

Journeyman Geek

(oddly, the things I miss most of the UK, were food related)

Jason C

Oh I don't know if it's called that here is that the same as sprouted grains?

Journeyman Geek

warburtons.co.uk/products/bread/seeded/…

Jason C

2:46 PM

Yeah I'm looking at it

Journeyman Geek

Here, lucky for you, I remembered what the heck it was called. Or unlucky.

Jason C

Do they let the seeds sprout a tiny bit?

Journeyman Geek

naw

just a ton of seeds.

absolutely divine with nutella

Jason C

Looks awesome

Sprouted grain or a good sourdough are my favorites though. Good sprouted grain bread is hard to find although lately it's also become "trendy" so I'm hoping it'll start popping up more.

Journeyman Geek

Most of my bread is home made/made in a breadmaker

Jason C

2:48 PM

I think it's hard to stock because usually you keep it in the freezer not on the bread rack

I've never made bread. I should.

I do like good bread.

Journeyman Geek

My 'favourite' now is the varient of shio pan that we (kinda amusingly) reverse engineered on root access from a brazillian video on youtube and a random google translated link

Jason C

On the other hand it's hard to motivate making my own bread because there's a good number of awesome bakeries around here.

That is... epic, haha.

Journeyman Geek

Jason C

Military cheese butter?

Lol what

Journeyman Geek

bad google translation

Jason C

2:52 PM

Haha

@TheDarkSide You seem intense.

Also you look suspiciously like the inside of that pan.

Journeyman Geek

Jason C

starts putting the military cheese butter on @TheDarkSide want to keep

@JourneymanGeek Did you make that

Journeyman Geek

@JasonC yup

Jason C

Looks flawless, how's it taste?

The Dark Side

@JasonC Hahahaha ...

Journeyman Geek

2:54 PM

@JasonC pretty darned good

Jason C

Sweet plate, btw

The Dark Side

BTW That's my first comment in the Tavern ... #Debut

Journeyman Geek

basically its a bun baked with a pat of butter inside it, so its just perfectly soaked through

Jason C

Lol

Journeyman Geek

@JasonC if you're ever in singapore, mustafa center, 4th floor ;p

Elephant

2:55 PM

@TheDarkSide Welcome to the Tavern, here, have a beer! ( ^^) _旦~~

Jason C

@TheDarkSide Damn I wish I still had the chat scraper. There's an inordinate amount of "haha"s and "lol"s in here. You'll fit right in, lol.

Journeyman Geek

buns

Jun 26 '16 at 9:38, 26 minutes total – 65 messages, 4 users, 0 stars

Bookmarked 10 secs ago by Journeyman Geek

@JasonC mor jems there

The Dark Side

@Elephant Thanks dude

or dudette

?

Journeyman Geek

> "who is to hand in the warm milk and suffering it"

Jason C

@JourneymanGeek You know I would seriously take you up on that offer if I ever were in Singapore, lol. And expect bread. Be careful what you offer.

The Dark Side

2:56 PM

@JasonC Yo :)

Journeyman Geek

@JasonC lol, I mean that's where you'd get such plates ;p

Jason C

Oh

Why did that halt all processing in my brain

Journeyman Geek

@JasonC cause that's one awsome looking bun

Jason C

I just closed all the tabs that came out of this conversation, which reminds me, I'm still baffled by this phone music.

Journeyman Geek

lol

SO WAS I!

Elephant

3:11 PM

too bad I couldn't find a video of that phone music :(

user315433

3:45 PM

ru.SO is getting new topbar: ru.meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/5312

user315433

Like SO, minus Jobs and Docs

Elephant

and apparently they don't like it too..?

all.SO are getting new topbar.

ja.SO just accepted it silently, but I couldn't find meta post on Stack Overflow em Português and Stack Overflow en español

Apparently, pt.SO as an answer to feature-request, but still, nothing on es.SO?

user315433

4:28 PM

@Elephant Yeah, Qwertiy picks it apart. The topbar design sacrifices some features to make room for Docs and Jobs, and then gets put on the sites that don't have them. Net loss.

user315433

> When a sack of 200 locusts in the mail starts sounding "normal" or "Thursday", it may be time to reconsider some of your life choices. -- Marc Gravell at 1:19 AM - 1 Jun 2017

user315433

I wonder if other SE employees would like to get 200 locusts in the mail... only one way to find out.

Jon Ericson

We've been trying to figure out how to deliver spiders via the mail system. My front porch has the best supply, but I'm not going to collect them myself.

user315433

My (unused) fireplace and adjacent wood storage are a fertile breeding ground.

user315433

(Spiders, not locusts)

user315433

4:57 PM

@Elephant They tweeted instead:

user315433

> Llego ya la nueva nav en el sitio. ¡A ver cómo la ven! pic.twitter.com/uaKOYislXc -- SO en Español at 9:38 AM - 1 Jun 2017

user315433

es.SO is the only site with an official but non-robotic Twitter account. (SO Twitter is more about the company than the site)

user315433

Oh, and there was an answer: La navegación nueva se aplicará aquí muy pronto by fedorqui on es.meta.stackoverflow.com

Elephant

Ah, I see..

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Manually reported answer: Is it possible that a native German speaker doesn't put the verb to the end of the sentence after a "weil"? by Andreas Steinberg on german.SE

user315433

5:07 PM

-1

Q: What are HTTP Error messages pages that i must have in laravel?

I have created error 404 page. What other error pages should i create to make my site a bit friendly and secure ?

user315433

Nothing makes a site feel friendly and secure like getting error pages on it.

Elephant

5:20 PM

(Since I have been working so hard to design those error pages, let's increase the chance for them to be seen! Main content? What's that?)

user315433

5:42 PM

I didn't realize /questions/linked/id works for deleted questions too. For example stackoverflow.com/questions/linked/1 (h/t meta.stackexchange.com/q/296658 though I don't consider this a bug)

user315433

Why do these questions link to q/1 ? Usually, it's because they include URL such as https://stackoverflow.com/questions/1...tream-access-l

user315433

which they copied from somewhere else and didn't notice it's broken

user315433

Community diligently replaced http by https in that broken link: stackoverflow.com/posts/31180044/revisions

SmokeDetector

6:02 PM

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Offensive answer detected: How to send an email with Arduino and a WiFi shield? by Chris on arduino.SE

user315433

7:15 PM

> Truths are illusions which we have forgotten are illusions.

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Blacklisted website in answer: Whats the difference between mentor, tutor and professor in a University context in the UK by Anthony Smith on english.SE

user315433

@SmokeDetector gone

user315433

7:34 PM

> Grown-ups ought to drink 1.5 to 2 liters (8 to 12 mugs) of PLAIN separated water a day; youngsters ought to be urged to drink 1 liter (6 glasses) every day. Beverages, for example, espresso, dark tea, liquor and soft drinks have a getting dried out impact and ought to be devoured with some restraint (on account of pop - maintain a strategic distance from it totally) metasmoke.erwaysoftware.com/post/70708

user315433

devouring coffee with some restraint

user315433

AJ Henderson is trying to get his 4th diamond, and has a pretty good shot at it.

Elephant

Except SE devs and CM, who has a record of being the richest user (aka most diamond)?

Travis J

re: "8 to 12 mugs"... water at excessive levels is poisonous, and you need to be in shape enough to process that much water. For an athlete that is good advice, but for other people it can be kind of dangerous.

user315433

7:50 PM

@Elephant Rory Alsop

Travis J

"richest"?

Ah, as in can mod on most exchanges?

user315433

Easy to find at stackexchange.com/about/moderators?by=users

Travis J

Is it Jeff's built in mod button?

Jon Ericson

@TravisJ Most burdened.

Travis J

lol

user315433

7:53 PM

Monica Cellio is in the second place (5 diamonds), Rory has 7

user315433

ChrisF is in the third place with 4. Quite a few people have 3.

Travis J

$('.mods-container').append(function(){
 return $('.mods-container .mods-item').sort(function(a,b){
   return $('.mods-summary-list a',a).length > $('.mods-summary-list a',b).length ? -1 : 1;
 });
});

mod sort desc by diamonds

user315433

The most common moderator names are Andrew, Daniel, and rob, each appearing twice. (If ignoring the case, add Dan/dan to the list.)

user315433

8:14 PM

* Ryan also appears twice.

user315433

> We stand on the shoulders of giants who bothered to login to StackOverflow and explain their problem in words easily indexed by Google. -- SwiftOnSecurity at 12:43 PM - 1 Jun 2017

user315433

Covfefe question on ELU got closed but hey, 100K views.

Jason C

9:56 PM

Is there a way to pull custom close reasons from sede?

Shog9

yes

@JasonC but, what do you mean by "custom close reasons"?

site-custom, or comments?

Jason C

Comments

Shog9

ah...

that's... tricky

Jason C

I didn't find what I was looking for in an actual comment search.

data.stackexchange.com/stackoverflow/query/679794 for meta.stackexchange.com/questions/296664/…

I can't remember if close comments get auto deleted on close or not.

Shog9

no, they stick around

well, usually

but, the data linking them to close votes isn't in SEDE

Jason C

10:01 PM

Maybe whoever was doing that deleted their comments.

Shog9

neither are most of the close votes

Jason C

Yeah. I was hoping to just get a superset of the close comments with that emoji reason to see if it looked like a single user.

But I found 0. Which was even less than I expected.

Shog9

collation, I suspect

Unicode sucks, blah blah blah

Jason C

I'm not sure about that. I found matches. Just none that looked like close reasons. I could try a ci_ai one I guess.

Too bad meta.stackexchange.com/questions/294590/… doesn't exist.

Hm, no that's not it.

Whatever. Weird.

Shog9

@JasonC oh, I see the problem... All of the comments are deleted, except for the ones that are on deleted posts. So none of 'em appear in SEDE

Jason C

10:09 PM

Ah

user315433

10:48 PM

-1

A: What are these white spots on my Purslane leaves?

Can you rat it if washed in hot water?

user315433

11:44 PM

New Senior Product Designer:

user315433

Piper Lawson, Columbus, OH, United States

1 1

user315433

Here's hoping some site gets custom design this year... Something that hasn't happened since 2016-10-06

user315433

Sales team added >20 people at once (on /company/team page, that is), bringing the total headcount to 317. Last year at this time, it was 263. That's 20% growth.

user315433

Does this mean they are selling a lot more stuff now than a year ago?

Journeyman Geek

Presumably

user315433

11:55 PM

Don't have the data for the # of job postings as a function of time.

Journeyman Geek

Or are trying to

I guess both private SE instances and ads are products. I don't suspect massive volumes for the former tho

user315433

Sales-Talent team, i.e. Careers/Jobs, has 122 people now.

user315433

That's separate from display ads etc.

buns

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