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12:03 AM
[ SmokeDetector ] Few unique characters in answer, repeating words in answer: Windows 8.1 System process using High CPU by james on superuser.com
sd rude
It would really help if you'd follow normal .NET naming conventions, format your code more readably, and provide a Minimal, Complete, and Verifiable example rather than bits and pieces. — Jon Skeet 5 hours ago
hmm, I thought Jon Skeet and Eric Lippert didn't vtc stuff
It's always nice to see Charcoal members' names in the Triage tests
Triage? You need to get more SO rep for better queues. ;P
I can't even insta-edit, man
1 min ago, by hichris123
Triage? You need to get more SO rep for better queues. ;P
I'm in the fourth camp of users at the moment
12:13 AM
The 1-4 train? You don't have enough rep for that one. :P
I don't have enough rep not to give a shit? huh.
Well, usually the 1-4 train involves apathy from closing questions, etc. So it usually only happens when over 3k rep. :)
I was nearly a 10k user on CR before I started nosediving in motivation
now I just rant in chat and complain about the ROs
Hopefully you're talking about a different room... ;)
What happened? I thought CR was a great community.
yesterday, by Quill
some of the regulars on Code Review are suffering from no longer having graduation as a goal
yesterday, by Quill
they aren't motivated to answer any more and voting is down which makes that even worse
in The 2nd Monitor on The Stack Exchange Network Chat, yesterday, by Quill
for most groups to work, they need an enemy. they need an enemy to rally against and to work together to defeat. Our enemy was bad site health blocking graduation. We defeated that enemy, and now our group is bored without a new enemy
12:22 AM
yesterday, by Bookend
CR power users indeed seemed fixated on graduation more than anyone else on the network.
except for PPCG. :P
They were more annoyed that they didn't have community feedback
SE told CR their blocker. They kinda left PPCG hangin for a while
Eh. Some of your mods bothered the CMs a lot until you graduated. :P
Yeah, 200_success super pinged Joel Spolsky
More than that...
in The 2nd Monitor on The Stack Exchange Network Chat, Jun 11 '15 at 3:11, by rolfl
I have been sending a progressively worsening pun to the CM's every single day for the past month or so.
Q: Where can I submit a coding challenge and get it resolved by others?

lalongoooNot sure if TopCoder is a good option. Any others?

12:29 AM
I was hoping site health would be a town hall topic, but there's really not much to discuss
@Bookend Ooh, I know an answer to that one.
I'm sure there's some freelancing site...
obviously ppcg is the place for that
just tag it pop con and use a really clickbaity title
1 hour later…
1:37 AM
heh. A colleague just emailed a news article about a "study that finds pasta isn't fattening" with the email subject "some goods news"
1:55 AM
Q: Tricky Q and A which answerable by yes or no

Don2xHi guys please help me with my task today. I need to gather some tricky question which answerable by “YES” or “NO”, Concerning Javascript, jQuery and PHP. Thanks in advance.

@Quill Pasta is carbs, not fat...
Is this question appropriate to S.O =no. will it be closed=yes — Dagon 6 mins ago
the snarks
Should be unclear, not TB.
He's asking for interview questions
interview questions are bad, you should let the candidate ask you questions
@bjb568 What I voted. :)
Oh wait, I see how it's TB now too.
1:59 AM
@hichris123 my amusement isn't at the content's truth, my amusement is the article's lack of any links to said study, and my colleague's instant belief of truth
If you're not skeptical of anything that starts with "a new study shows" then you haven't lived enough yet
@bjb568 ... it's literally every close reason in one.
Except for duplicate...
I flagged as too localised, yes and no are english words, and english is the language of england, thus it's too localised
Example Question: 1.) Have you created a database driven web app before? — Don2x 1 min ago
Tricky? I can answer yes to that even if I just touched a CMS...
I can't get behind the term "web app"
What term do you want to use then...?
2:03 AM
"thingy which uses a browser"?
Just because your website does things doesn't mean you can just start calling it an app
Noun: app ‎(plural apps)
  1. (computing) An application (program), especially a small one designed for a mobile device.
  2. (informal) appetizer
  3. 2007, Evelyn Spence, Explorer's Guide Colorado's Classic Mountain Towns
  4. The food is some of Breck's best: apps like sweet potato gnocchi with smoked chicken and sage cream […]
  5. 2009, Robin Asbell, New Vegetarian
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"appetizer"? I've never heard that usage...
> 2007, Evelyn Spence, Explorer's Guide Colorado's Classic Mountain Towns
2009, Robin Asbell, New Vegetarian
@Quill Oh, those are quotations... I guess a oneboxing bug.
2:08 AM
oneboxing is a bug
2:47 AM
@Quill Web Applications draws its scope around the term: a website has to behave like an application, doing things on behalf of user. Browsing nytimes.com wouldn't be on topic.
why do I keep on finding all those retarded images on the internet?? >_<
3:14 AM
[ SmokeDetector ] Blacklisted website in answer: Android SDK having trouble with ADB by Rozen Gupta on askubuntu.com (@kos)
sd k
3:27 AM
This is what a terrible query looks like on a primary, offloaded to a replica, improved a bit, then squashed: https://t.co/ekqtwl0Dgc
Ouch, 100% CPU.
3:52 AM
Only JavaScript test runners include smiley faces in their test failure reports.... github.com/mochajs/mocha/blob/…
Q: What is the word for individuals who unwittingly post very similar questions asking for the same words, without doing any previous research?

Mari-Lou AMany newcomers on EL&U post very similar single-word-requests, all asking for more or less the same words. The two main categories appear to be asking about verbosity and thriftiness. What is the word for: Users who don't do any previous research and unwittingly post similar questions on Q&...

That generated some unusual NAAs
what exactly is NAA
Nice And All
That generated some unusual Nice And Alls
3:58 AM
doesn't compute
Nutella And Abalone
Actually speaking of "doesn't compute", it doesn't specify whether the problem is that it's not compiling or it crashes while computing.
Once I saw a sign in a fresh seafood store that said 'Please report if you see an abalone escaping from the tank'
Single White Robot Stack Exchange and Swap Meet
I am not sure whether I should be supportive of Abalone Freedom Movement
4:09 AM
Someone flagged an abalone?
It's not even escaping!
in SO Close Vote Reviewers on Stack Overflow Chat, 21 secs ago, by SmokeDetector
@Quill No, you are not a privileged user. See the Privileges wiki page for information on what privileges are and what is expected.
SOCVR don't normally add users under 3K to privileged list
4:24 AM
I don't actively hangout in the room either
> I am new to computer language at all so I am not sure I am asking clearly but I hope I have given enough explanation to understand what the question is.
It seems that straying from the party line is tolerated in CV review for longer than in LQRQ (in terms of failed audits leading to review ban)
party line?
is that like the party van?
@Telkitty no answers available
define party line
@Bookend try swapping to a google tab when you type that next time
4:31 AM
define swapping
Used to work, though
I changed bachelors and the university is sending me the whole propaganda package like I'd just started >_>
They might all be terrible, but some are better at getting certain jobs
4:44 AM
@Bookend forgot the colon:
Verb: define ‎(third-person singular simple present defines, present participle defining, simple past and past participle defined)
  1. To determine with precision; to mark out with distinctness; to ascertain or exhibit clearly.
  2. Sir Isaac Newton
  3. Rings […] very distinct and well defined.
  4. the defining power of an optical instrument‎
  5. (obsolete) To settle, decide (an argument etc.). [16th-17th c.]
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Noun: define ‎(plural defines)
  1. (computing, programming) A kind of macro in source code that replaces one text string with another wherever it occurs.
  2. 1996, James Gosling, Henry McGilton, The Java Language Environment
  3. From the computer programming perspective, Java looks like C and C++ while discarding the overwhelming complexities of those languages, such as typedefs, defines, preprocessor, unions, pointers, and multiple inheritance.
  4. 1999, Ian Joyner, Objects unencapsulated: Java, Eiffel, and C++ (page 309)
  5. Anyone who has attempted to do OO programming in a conventional language using defines will find out that it is impossible to realize the benefits easily, if at all, without compiler support.
Adjective: recursive ‎(comparative more recursive, superlative most recursive)
  1. drawing upon itself, referring back.
  2. The recursive nature of stories which borrow from each other
  3. (mathematics, not comparable) of an expression, each term of which is determined by applying a formula to preceding terms
  4. (computing, not comparable) of a program or function that calls itself
  5. (computing theory, not comparable, of a function) which can be computed by a theoretical model of a computer, in a finite amount of time
  6. (computing theory, not comparable, of a set) whose characteristic function is recursive (4)
@Quill So what's your new one?
5:08 AM
[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword in body, link at end of body, pattern-matching website in body: Critical Facts About Grape Seed Extract by Tommycfox on superuser.com
[ SmokeDetector ] Link at end of body, pattern-matching website in body: Natural Tooth Whitening Tips - Nurse's Guide by chawersrles on superuser.com
[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword in title, link at end of body, pattern-matching website in body: Building Chest Muscle by louisegin on gaming.stackexchange.com
@Bookend I went from Information Technology to Computer Science
[ SmokeDetector ] Blacklisted website in body, blacklisted user: Lotus Notes to Outlook Converter by Johny Parker on superuser.com
sd 4k
5:55 AM
Just realized the logo change updated design on Aviation. While I knew what the logo is, I'm not sure the others can easily guess it...
I still prefer the old beta's airplane though ._.
[ SmokeDetector ] Offensive answer detected: Is Nen related to Haki? by Tghhhhh on anime.stackexchange.com
sd rude
[ SmokeDetector ] Manually reported question: What is the best music app for Android? by logwolf on android.stackexchange.com (@meatball)
6:50 AM
[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, pattern-matching website in body: Is it down to earth to reviews and distinguish whether its custom best essay writing service? by KristanPoindexter on cstheory.stackexchange.com
You say the site met your threshold; what threshold is that? The linked post mentions 10 questions/day. Philosophy gets 5.8 questions/day, trailing about 13 beta sites in that category, some by the factor of 2. — Bookend 19 secs ago
There's a conspiracy there, I'm sure.
Theory #1: some mods want to retire, so an election is needed and the site is scheduled for graduation because of that.
Theory #2: The content is good and SE want more "culture/recreation" sites
Just when I want to suggest theory #1 to CR people...
6:55 AM
Theory #2.5 Totally need a philosophy site for SE to look deep
Q: Cannot complete signup in firefox

kungI recently tried signing up at security.stackexchange and I have a profile, however, in firefox it always says "complete signing up" and never finishes. On firefox I have 21 rep and in chrome, which does not complain about finishing signing up, I have 1. Does anyone now how to fix this?

Theory #3: SE is trying to reduce the number of 5-year-old beta sites, lowering the bar for them.
Theory #3.14: random.org
Theory #4 The Philosophy mods cashed in their unicorn bucks
[ SmokeDetector ] Link at end of body, pattern-matching website in body: White Light Smile by user562109 on askubuntu.com (@kos)
7:04 AM
Theory #6.28318 Nobody knows what they're doing.
When is your internship over?
6 weeks
That's a lot. I'm going back from UTC+10 to UTC-4 in two days.
Well, I'm in a typhoon.
Metaphorical or real?
7:12 AM
A typhoon of JavaScript frameworks, of course.
> billions of U.S dollars of damage in Taiwan and China and killed at least 36 people.
Caused by the frameworks, obviously.
7:17 AM
feel free to hop on a plane and fly down to australia, telkitty can show you his chickens and I'll show you how to hunt drop bears
gr8, m8
I never knew there was a method for that
also I will be heading towards China in 8 weeks time
7:30 AM
Whatever happened to the concept of files in chat? They're a bad idea but they're an interesting thought
What is a (signal) wave that doesn't have amplitude, frequency, etc at all called? Silent wave? Empty wave? Neutral wave?
no wave
Didn't think it's that simple... (´・ω・`)
Q: Stack Exchange CDN very slow lately

mplungjanI have seen the other answers from 2011 and such, but just this week both JS and CSS have this issue:

There's a problem with Seattle CDN recently, and elsewhere.
7:42 AM
[ SmokeDetector ] Link at end of answer: How to type in Cantonese in OS X? by dphans on apple.stackexchange.com
Not sure that's spam.
he's not on the collaborator list and it's open source with 900+ stars
sd f
Q: Flash CS4 refuses to let go

EnderI have a Flash project, and it has many source files. I have a fairly heavily-used class, call it Jenine. I recently (and, perhaps, callously) relocated Jenine from one namespace to another. I thought we were ready - I thought it was time. The new Jenine was better in every way - she had lost som...

I haven't read this one before
@rene close, but enough for me to flag
Yeah, I assume good faith here. The target site isn't a paywall and not riddled with ads...
Although I just recently learned that most Stack Overflow users like ads and want them to be also of high quality.
8:45 AM
What is it with people taking you seriously these days?
Don't know why you got all the downvotes though ...
No, me neither, I expected the answer to be an expansion of my first comment on the Q. Maybe the comment from Donna flips the sentiment against me.
people are stupid and can't vote
That is helpful, thanks for cheering me up ...
Never fear, bjb is here
9:26 AM
[ SmokeDetector ] Phone number detected in body: How can resolve canon printer issues? by James Smith on webapps.stackexchange.com
9:47 AM
@Bart Eh, lemme guess . . . @rene seemed to be pointing out something harsh about something they like. Let's downvote @rene so he wouldn't do that ever again.
Although he didn't.
@Bart Next year April Fool Easter egg should be a remake of Alley Cat with @bjb568
@TIPS I'm am guessing I don't need my fingers to count the f*cks rene would give :D
9:51 AM
10:07 AM
now that TIPS ruined yet another joyous event......
time for a topic change :)
Pokémon GO is an augmented-reality game developed by Niantic for iOS and Android devices. The game was released in July 2016. The game allows players to capture, battle, train, and trade virtual Pokémon who appear throughout the real world. The game is free-to-play, although it supports in-app purchases. A small wearable device was released alongside the game, called the Pokémon Go Plus. The device uses a Bluetooth connection to notify users when a Pokémon is nearby with an LED and a light rumble, and is sold separately from the app. == Gameplay == Different Pokémon live in different areas of the...
@Quill Let's talk about TIPS ruining joyous events
@TIPS like that one time when someone wanted to make a blog on LL and you crushed their hopes and dreams
it was so beautiful I nearly cried
@Quill Arqade is undergoing a Pokémon Go question boom lately.
So far, what I saw of the game seemed pretty underwhelming
Yeah, the HNQ is full of them. I wonder whether it's a good idea to do some selfies for the future rep
@Derpy pretty much. It's a bit buggy and their servers are "under heavy load" like every half an hour which forces you to login all over again
@Quill nah
10:10 AM
@Quill Good times good times.
We still can do this, man
@BJB dream of something.
oh yeah, how's your typhoon going @bjb?
@Quill It is not that. I was expecting the battle and catch mechanics to be the same of the actual games. I get a ball toss minigame and can battle only at gyms against CPU opponents?
It was such a "perfect shape" it seemed like it was blowing away everyone in the CNN report
@Derpy yeah... it's like the Safari Zone but much worse
@Quill I didn't think of the Safari zone.. but now that you mention it, the comparison seems pretty spot on.
I've already caught 6 spearows
10:44 AM
[ SmokeDetector ] Manually reported answer: Restore whatsapp messages from one number to another by matteorgan on android.stackexchange.com (@meatball)
[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, blacklisted website in body, link at end of body: make skin clean and glowing with Truve Serum by kathryinshaw on arduino.stackexchange.com
I should take tomorrow off work and walk around Brisbane doing this
10:59 AM
so, first annoyed police station that has a PokeStop inside. I wonder how long before someone tries to go catching a rare pokemon in a military no-access area.
1 hour later…
12:10 PM
Just when you thought Unity could not screw up their community sites any more, they introduce a new forum which looks terrible and invalidates all existing links.
12:24 PM
@Bart why you need them in the first place?
Because it is still the de-facto site to go. And a lot of links lead there ... (which are now all dead)
Should learn from MSO/MSE split...
Gamedev has some good unity questions
@meatball yup. Run a job to fix the links. Run a second job to fix the mess left by the first job.
(but guess @Bart means external links, which can't really be controlled)
12:28 PM
Yeah, external ones mostly. Although they also have tons of internal ones going wrong.
@Telkitty Microsoft in a nutshell.
@Bart so they're not really professional. No biggy. :D
@ShadowWizard some time ago they started a Q&A because people were asking for a SO-style place. So they installed a clone .. and left it at that. Upon request I wrote a 4-page document on what was going wrong and how they could improve, which they shelved and never did anything with.
@Bart well, at least they put a clone...
:D don't get me started
12:31 PM
getting @Bart started
And that clone interfered with Android app due to same link pattern~
> 4 page document
r u a wizerd?
@Quill no, that's @ShadowWizard
@Quill heh, think @Bart could easily make the SEDE tutorial.... he's a wasted talent! :P
@Bart I'm 80% Shadow, 20% Wizard.
it's open source, so if he wants to contribute ;-)
12:35 PM
@Quill but that would offend Monica... :/
I'm 40% Smiley, 20% cat, and 40% general disdain for everything
So 40% smiley and 60% cat?
@Bart Maybe
12:51 PM
@Magisch hmm.... so you have 2 lives?
Q: When reputation drops to 0, Is asking not allowed?

Matthew RohIn Privileges, It says creating posts is a privilege limited with 1 reputation. Then If someone's reputation drops to 0, can't he create posts?

I'm like 50% cynicism, 30% sarcasm, 20% programmer and 25% bad with numbers
@Quill Was actually asked that at my initial interview with the central bank
I can't remember what I answered but it boiled down to "5 words is too short to describe me"
I like how in all interview ads, people are smiling
1:03 PM
interview is not a smile faking session
Well all of my interviews (all three) so far have been pleasant and not stressful
did you get the job though
all three of them?
I first had 2 offers, chose the central bank dual uni thing, and then failed out of that (failed algebra), they wanted to hire me directly instead (all 5 of us in that uni had failed out), but I went to work for a company in my home town on a voc. apprenticeship instead
So far in my life I wrote a total of 3 applications, had a total of 3 interviews (2 of those were more like assesment centers) and got 3 job offers out of that
And as I am not really outstanding or particularly intelligent in either way, I can extrapolate from that that IT industry in germany is just not finding candidates right now so they hire most people :p
1:11 PM
Although your high rep on Workplace is probably not a coincidence.
Not deliberately being a bellend is apparently an asset :p
[ SmokeDetector ] Manually reported answer: Should I sell my stocks to reduce my debt? by Myra Kelly on money.stackexchange.com
@Quill not here yet
okay. stay safe :)
@Magisch you're just a bellend by accident then?
1:15 PM
@Bart Maybe. I don't have particularly great self valuation skills
@Magisch and self esteem?
@ShadowWizard Meh
@Magisch sounds good enough :D
People here love kids :p
1:27 PM
Interviewer: How much you value yourself?
Interviewee: Meh
Interviewer: The job is yours!
Q: One answer to a Q. is suited to ELL, but the other answer is suited to EL&U

TrevorDThis question: dogs, not cats -> why 'not' originated in EL&U, but was migrated to ELL. I agree that the original question and the first (my) answer are probably more appropriate to ELL than EL&U. But the second answer (from @NVZ) seems to me to be more appropriate for EL&U. Is there any way...

One heck of a discussion there.
@Bart one dot for each kid?
I guess I should find a meta to link regarding overzealous moderation.
Answering a question about one's self esteem is an unfortunate situation
@ShadowWizard if you're implying I have kids, then there's something I don't know about.
1:28 PM
If you respond negatively, people think you're depressed, if you respond positively, people think you're full of yourself.
The only winning move is not to play
> Interviewer: How much you value yourself?
Interviewee: Not to play
Interviewer: The job is yours!
@Magisch or to give a careful answer which is somewhere in the middle...
"I know I'm a capable X, but there is always room for improvement, which is part of the challenge" ... blahblah, question answered. Gimme moniez
I hate boilerplate interview answers
@Bart without glasses, you might forget what you did..... :P
1:29 PM
@Magisch If the interviewers hate them as well, they shouldn't ask boilerplate questions.
I've found there to be a fine but very walkable line between being polite and respecting the interviewers and not answering with meaningless platitudes
@ShadowWizard I read something between the lines, but I never thought you were a sarcastic person like the rest of us ... so I am not sure I was reading what you were really saying >_<
> Gimme moniez
This should work more often than it does
"Why do you want this job?"
Let's be honest. The real answer is always "I need the money". The job being a good fit, nice challenge, whatever, is always secondary.
@Andy to learn, widen my horizons, contribute to the community.... :D
1:33 PM
@ShadowWizard cough lies cough
@Telkitty you see bears where there's not even a wood... ;)
sour bears are good
(and @Tel - here in this room we are all sarcastic, it's a must... ;))
1:35 PM
@Telkitty I prefer those bears:
@Telkitty I will NOT give in
@ShadowWizard I WILL NOT GIVE IN
We'll see...
@Andy you mean this specific review?
> Oh man...words cannot express what happened to me after eating these. The Gummi Bear "Cleanse". If you are someone that can tolerate the sugar substitute, enjoy. If you are like the dozens of people that tried my order, RUN!
going to buy some just for the experience :P
Really, any of them if you need a good laugh.
@Andy that poor woman didn't laugh... but think I can handle those things. ;)
2:01 PM
@Quill is this your secret key? stealing it
keys are useless unless you know what's for
@Telkitty you can try on any door
So many dots.... dots anywhere... ... ... :D
2:08 PM
A: In which countries is Pokemon Go available?

kelseyI am an American with a USA android living in Saint Kitts and Nevis, Caribbean. I was able to download and play a little last night, but now the game is completely empty. I am hoping they eventually officially launch it here, but I am worried they wont since hardly anyone even knows where this ti...

[ SmokeDetector ] Manually reported question: ищу спеца по Zend Framework by Андрей on ru.stackoverflow.com
@Bookend You just found Robinson Crusoe!
So... Friday was an android?
@Bookend undroid
2:19 PM
an droid ... if we ignore the grammar error
iOS and roid are the best!
I don't think they singed up for this many puns.
The red cross is getting annoying lately
@Magisch ?
"You've been eligible to donate blood again for 4 days now"
And I always come in on a saturday, so there is no need to tell me this on thursday
2:25 PM
Oh, they introduced rate limiting and notifications.
Apparently O- is a deisreable blood type to donate although should I ever need blood I'm severely screwed
Then make sure you'll never need blood. Runs
What is this?
Off-topic for MSE but it reads as a rant?
to book publishers? or to their authors?
@rene screenshot?
already deleted by lurking animuson ..
2:34 PM
Oh boy ... the rant I could write in response to that ...
I was actually thinking about finding some book authors that would get annoyed about that post ;)
@rene Reads like a "concerned mom".
I'm not at all setting people up ...
@Bart you can still do it... (only comment, not answer)
Q: Are the packages listed in CRAN Task View: Official Statistics & Survey Methodology reliable? Are book publication by Springer validated?

Jaki AndanSpecifically, are the theories, definitions and processes in books published by Springer validated? This question is coming from the fact that most Statistical books being published nowadays introduce the use of certain R packages that are likely created by the authors who are Academecians for t...

It wouldn't fit in a comment :D
2:37 PM
So make it two comments... ;)
Or three.
Or, you could be even smarter and comment normally but noisily, so they take it to a chatroom.
And then . . .
Or Answer.
We'll be supporting you ... from a distance ...
@rene Bart got no diamond, he can't do that
Ask @nicael to get that fixed?
2:48 PM
@rene @nic can hack diamonds, not grant them :P
Oh, well ...
I'll grab the popcorn while Bart post all his comments
@rene don't you prefer @meat over @popcorn?
Gimme diamond
What's the magic word?
2:53 PM
In the end all civilization is forgotten ... let's go on a rampage ...
@Bart wrong! Try again
@ShadowWizard Gimme!
@Bart wrong! Try again!
2 more tries wrong and you'll be suspended
nah, just spanked
2:54 PM
He might like that ...
That would be unsettling ...
It already is ...
taking cuffs just in case
Take some of those furry ones
2:56 PM
@Bart pink. Deal!
This got weird, quickly.
Yes, I'm known for that, sorry
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