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12:10 AM
[ SmokeDetector ] Repeating characters in answer: Word for group of noisy people by vhjvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvy on ell.stackexchange.com
 
@SmokeDetector tpu-
 
@InfiniteRecursion done
So... what did I miss from WWDC / everything?
 
Yay, I'm enrolling in the Apple Developer Program now.
 
> In preparation for the move, we will be relocating these services to our New York facility in a window of around 8-9pm EST
Oh, well great.
Also, I think you meant EDT.
If chat goes down right now... :/
 
12:28 AM
@hichris123 A lot
 
@hichris123 Nothing you couldn't have guessed
 
@hichris123 … then you can move to DD!
@KevinBrown Really? There was a lot of great stuff in there…
I just watched the keynote in its entirety. I wasn't entirely unsurprised.
 
Heh, so a lot of what we saw at I/O.
 
Data Explorer (http://data.stackexchange.com) will be down for a few minutes while we migrate it to New York.
 
@hichris123 with less invasion of privacy…
 
12:31 AM
Swift 2.0 looks nice but other than that...
@bjb568 That's what they want you to think.
 
Oh, right, like there isn't a concrete measure of privacy in the legal documentation…
 
'cause there isn't.
 
Lack of privacy is rarely a secret. It only comes as a surprise if you choose to ignore it.
@hichris123 What do you mean?
 
'cause your (lack thereof) legal documents on DD isn't supportive of anything at all.
 
What's DD have to do with anything? It's a startup and the legal docs are being drafted.
 
12:33 AM
@bjb568 Alright, some of the iOS 9 things I didn't see coming, but the announcement of Apple Music, OSX 10.11, and the Watch(kit) updates... not as much
 
Apple and Google both have very complete privacy policies.
 
@bjb568 ... and do you really think Apple cares more about your privacy than Google does?
 
@KevinBrown Well, sure, iOS and watchOS are going to have some incremental improvements.
@hichris123 Obviously. Data is fundamental to Google's business model.
From tosdr:
> Google keeps your searches and other identifiable user information for an undefined period of time
> Google collects a lot of information about the services you use and how you use them, including when you visit a website using a Google service for advertisement. In the past, Google stated in their Privacy Policy: *“We strike a reasonable balance between the competing pressures we face, such as the privacy of our users, the security of our systems and the need for innovation. We believe anonymizing IP addresses after 9 months and cookies in our search engine logs after 18 months strikes t
 
@bjb568 same with Apple. How else can they provide you with relevant information on your iOS device?
 
Oh, parsed "on" wrong.
 
12:39 AM
At least you can use Google to create a Weapon of Mass Destruction
You also agree that you will not use these products for any purposes prohibited by United States law, including, without limitation, the development, design, manufacture or production of nuclear, missiles, or chemical or biological weapons.
 
The can provide information that's good for anybody with anonymous aggregate data collection. Or, locally they can personalize my results in a way that keeps my data secure. They don't sell data to advertisers like Google does.
 
@KevinBrown Markdown doesn't work in mutli-line messages.
:(
 
Second time this week I learned that lesson :(
 
It works properly on DD…
You can even have multiple onebox images in one post!
Or, a damn caption.
 
@bjb568 ... and you know this... how, exactly? How do you know they don't sell your data to advertisers? And how do you know Google sells your data to advertisers? (there's a difference between providing aggregated data & selling specific information)
 
12:42 AM
It's stated in their respective ToSs.
or privacy policy or whatever doc it is
 
Data Explorer is back online, we're working on moving the chat data now - outage will be a bit later.
 
:(
@bjb568 And you've read every word and paragraph of both documents?
 
Of course not, you have?
 
no, but you seem to be an expert on the situation, so I'm asking how you became an expert.
 
> Non-personally identifiable information: This is information that is recorded about users so that it no longer reflects or references an individually identifiable user.
> We may share [snip] non-personally identifiable information [snip] with [snip] publishers, advertisers or connected sites.
That's pretty broad.
@hichris123 I make no claim of expertise, but I have heard about each respective company thru publicly available information and drawn conclusions on such information.
 
12:46 AM
@bjb568 Your local grocery/chain store does it as well, they just don't tell you about it.
 
> Apple and its affiliates may share this personal information with each other and use it consistent with this Privacy Policy. They may also combine it with other information to provide and improve our products, services, content, and advertising.
 
@KevinBrown Oh, sure, I know about that. Especially with all the rewards cards and stuff…
@hichris123 That's then further limited in other parts of the privacy policy.
 
> Apple shares personal information with companies who provide services such as information processing, extending credit, fulfilling customer orders, delivering products to you, managing and enhancing customer data, providing customer service, assessing your interest in our products and services, and conducting customer research or satisfaction surveys. These companies are obligated to protect your information and may be located wherever Apple operates.
 
@bjb568 They tell you about the rewards cards (usually), I'm talking about the semi-anonymous purchase data that is sold
 
I don't know much about that since it isn't me that goes shopping, but I'll look into it.
It seems less offensive for, well, data about how many watermelons I buy.
But I am still concerned about targeted advertisements in meatspace.
 With your consent

            We will share personal information with companies,
            organizations or individuals outside of Google when we
            have your consent to do so. We require opt-in consent
            for the sharing of any sensitive personal information.
 
12:51 AM
[ SmokeDetector ] Phone number detected: Form Template Failed to Load Error by Gopi on sharepoint.stackexchange.com
 
It's not clear here what "opt-in" means, you'd think you already kind of opted in to using their service at that point…
 
sd fpu
 
@Doorknob Registered question as false positive, whitelisted user and added title to Bayesian doctype 'good'.
 
@bjb568 opt-in = checkbox/etc
 
Which checkbox, specifically?
And is its default value set to granting permission? (like Facebook)
 
12:55 AM
@bjb568 opt-in = I have to explicitly say that I want to use that feature/characteristic/etc.
 
But how specific is "that feature/characteristic/etc"?
Is it "I am signing my name and telling google explicitly that they have permission to sell my name to adcorpinc"? I doubt that…
 
@bjb568 that doesn't matter
the case is that it isn't active unless I said so by default
 
Or is it "Uh, you deliberately landed on the google home page! Hooray, you must consent to all the business strategies employed by Google…"
 
@bjb568 Well, uh... I think that's accurate for Google+ (just like how it is for Facebook)
 
@Braiam The problem is how hard it is to know and control what's happening with the information.
@KevinBrown What? Facebook doesn't do that…
 
12:59 AM
@bjb568 it doesn't happen anything until I say that I allow to happen, the object in question is irrelevant in the definition of "opt-in/out"
 
But what does it mean to "allow" something to happen?
 
@bjb568 PII is excluded for advertisers, but the rest still applies: facebook.com/about/privacy
 
There's a lot of personal stuff beyond identifying information…
 
I have a recipe for shortcake that's pretty personal
 
Yes, see: Shog supports teh kitteh!
 
1:03 AM
I support not posting recipes on Facebook.
Who knows what they'll do to them
 
Totally agree.
 
You could be in a cheesy diner ordering "gramma's rhubarb pie" some day, only to realize with horror that it actually is your gramma's recipe.
5
 
The horror!
 
instead of the stale, over-sweet, faintly fermented pile of glop you were expecting to wash down with some terrible coffee.
That sorta thing'll just ruin your whole day.
 
It happens to the best of us.
 
1:08 AM
Sooo.... only Shog.
 
Yeah… man… if you want to think of it that way.
 
You know what I like about Shog? That he always have first hand experience in everything he shares with us.
 
Also he is our lord and savior.
I don't even know what those words mean, but he is them.
Oh, something about high authority and esteem.
 
@Braiam ... what hands? He's a floating head!
 
@hichris123 It's a freaking saying! ¬_¬
 
1:13 AM
BTW, should I add figure and figcaption to the DD markdown parser?
 
No, add some fig trees.
@Braiam Still a floating head. ;P
 
@hichris123 "a floating head" [citation needed]
 
[dubious - discuss]
 
user259867
Both experimental beta elections are kind of anemic. On Network Engr, nobody wanted to ask questions.
 
user259867
First mod candidate on Chemistry is ... [drumroll] ... Manish
 
1:23 AM
[ SmokeDetector ] Offensive answer detected: How to find the length of a curved path. by jeremy on math.stackexchange.com
 
sd tpu
 
@michaelpri Blacklisted user.
 
@HomegrownTomato Hi Manish!
 
considers earning 49 rep on Chemistry to vote for Manish
 
That's only like 25 quality edits
 
1:31 AM
[ SmokeDetector ] Offensive body detected: Button works on emulator but crashes on device by Lucas Vienna on stackoverflow.com
 
user259867
had the foresight to farm rep on Chemistry just for that purpose
 
user259867
@SmokeDetector ignore- not really offensive, though could be edited
 
1:52 AM
> What is a sibling?
Really, health textbook?
palmface
Jun 4 at 3:01, by bjb568
user image
 
2:34 AM
Ugh, it keeps using the "someexampledude thinks nobody knows how he feels" cliché.
 
[ SmokeDetector ] Phone number detected: import long number from csv into access by YHTAN on stackoverflow.com
[ SmokeDetector ] Phone number detected: import long number from csv into access by YHTAN on stackoverflow.com
 
@SmokeDetector ignore-
 
[ SmokeDetector ] Offensive answer detected: A word used to describe someone who loves to be photographed by dmeskam on english.stackexchange.com
 
2:49 AM
Just came across this Apple support forum post: http://t.co/rPfzocWs90
 
user259867
@SmokeDetector ignore- it's a mention
 
chat still hasn't gone down.
I'm disappointed.
 
Aww, I see you care about us all…
@hichris123 session id?
 
@hichris123 who said it wasn't down when you weren't looking?
 
Would a tree in a forest…
 
2:59 AM
[ SmokeDetector ] Phone number detected: Insert GEOMFROMTEXT (lat lng) by user4056231 on dba.stackexchange.com
 
user259867
Percentage of answered questions:
SO: 74%
ru.SO: 74%
ja.SO: 76%
pt.SO: 84%
 
[ SmokeDetector ] Offensive answer detected: How do I make money quickly in Uplink? by desmond on gaming.stackexchange.com
 
user259867
A little more energy and enthusiasm there, it seems.
 
user259867
@SmokeDetector tpu-
 
@HomegrownTomato heh
pretty bad thruout tho
 
3:03 AM
@HomegrownTomato you need to watch closely that pt.SO... I'm suspecting more than 1% are NAA's
 
user259867
@Braiam But they'd need to be accepted or upvoted to count.
 
So I had my first day of work today. Good news: it went great!
Bad news: I came home to find my internet has been replaced by a toaster.
That "1.74 Mb/s" is more like 7 Mb/s 20% of the time, 20 kb/s the other 80% of the time.
Halp!
 
@AlexisKing did you move to my country?
 
Now if you were in Australia.... That's considered a fast internet connection
 
I'd be pretty okay if it were a consistent 1.74 Mb/s. But it's not.
 
3:15 AM
@HomegrownTomato do you still have the patents data?
If so, how many questions have 3+ links?
 
@AlexisKing sue ISP class action
i want teh monehz too
 
user259867
@hichris123 I don't remember, but the historical record is not so relevant: those well-researched posts are a thing of the past. At present, I would say that if you report every question by a 1 rep user with 3 links, that will not give a lot of fps.
 
Hmm, OK.
Eeek.
I can type. Kinda.
> An exception occurred while processing your request. Additionally, another exception occurred while executing the custom error page for the first exception. The request has been terminated.
3
 
@hichris123 in summary, YOUR FACE IS AN EXCEPTION!
2
 
Yay, we're back.
@Braiam UR MOM IS EXCEPTIONAL
wait what?
 
@bjb568 I KNOW!
 
@_@
 
@bjb568 go to bed
 
3:35 AM
404
doing health hw anyway
 
wat
Those are some incredible data transfer speeds.
 
We have finished moving chat to New York - that's all the fun for tonight.
 
We have finished moving chat to New York - that's all the fun for tonight.
 
user259867
That's not all the fun. We still have skin care products and muscle-boosting meds to have fun with. Coming to a chat room near you in ~30 minutes.
 
3:41 AM
will listen maybe later
 
4:04 AM
[ SmokeDetector ] Nested quote blocks in body: Receive Error in import opencv in python by KunalBhai on stackoverflow.com
[ SmokeDetector ] Repeating characters in answer: Can water be magnetized? by YUHU on physics.stackexchange.com
 
user259867
@SmokeDetector tpu-
 
[ SmokeDetector ] Email in answer: Strategies for paying off my Student loans by loveth on money.stackexchange.com
 
sd tpu-
 
@SmokeDetector tpu-
@Doorknob lol
 
@Undo FOX implemented that! It actually works now.
sd tpu
 
4:16 AM
lol
 
... yunoreply
 
sd tpu
 
@Doorknob oh, is that what that message that I ignored said? :P
 
it worked before
 
@Undo Lol, probably
I think it's because it can't act on the same message twice. Or something like that.
 
4:17 AM
tired thots: take part and partake are like the same two words, maaaan
 
it was acting twice/thrice earlier
 
@SmokeDetector tpu
 
@Doorknob Blacklisted user.
 
Huh.
 
sd tp
 
4:18 AM
Did @ProgramFOX implement the no-reply-by-default thing for sd *?
 
That's actually pretty awesome
 
Defaults to last report?
 
Yes.
 
user259867
Supposedly. For all we know, there is an Easter egg in there that blacklists a random user.
 
4:19 AM
12 hours ago, by ProgramFOX
Privileged SmokeDetector users: you can now use sd tp, sd tpu, sd fp and sd fpu (with or without silent mode) as shortcuts to perform the given action on the latest report of SmokeDetector. (The other shortcut commands will follow later, but they are more difficult to implement)
 
Okay, is chat search completely messed up for anyone else?
 
@Doorknob that's not different to how it was before (hint: search "code")
 
@Undo Search is borky, but my original feature request was actually larger (FOX just implemented part of it; I might do the rest and pull request later). sd tpu would tpu the last message, sd 2tpu would be the 2 last messages, sd tpu fpu would tpu the last and fpu the second last, and sd - tpu would tpu the second last (and "-" the last, which is a no-op).
@Braiam No, there's way too little results.
 
user259867
@Doorknob Yes, it only shows result preceding late May 2014.
 
Ex. I get no results for chat.meta.stackexchange.com/…, which I know is false.
@HomegrownTomato Any idea why that is?
Did it break recently?
 
user259867
4:22 AM
Because of that data transfer to NY. We are talking through NY now, not OR.
 
Ah, I see.
 
user259867
@Doorknob Looks like way too much complexity for a pretty unimportant feature.
 
user259867
I mean, when was the last time something was detected purely due to blacklist?
 
user259867
(Oops, can't search...)
 
@HomegrownTomato hrm? It's not adding anything. It only gives an easier way of replying to SD messages, without having to hit the reply button.
 
4:29 AM
I would blame caching
 
Night!
 
[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword in body, blacklisted website: How to improve strength and metabolism? by hirmawalky on drupal.stackexchange.com
 
sd tpu
uh
 
did it work?
 
4:34 AM
@SmokeDetector tpu
 
@Dronehinge Blacklisted user and registered question as true positive: added title to the Bayesian doctype 'bad'.
 
@Doorknob it worked earlier .. something borked with "sd" now @pro
 
Yeah, it was working before
Aha! Found the commit that broke it: github.com/Charcoal-SE/SmokeDetector/commit/…
(specifically, lines 60 and 113)
Lines 60 and 113 should have the [-1] removed.
 
@Unihedron ???? ???? ????!!?
 
5:08 AM
[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword in title: muscle Fitness Workout Routines by tiyeni wioz on meta.stackexchange.com
 
sd tpu
@SmokeDetector tpu
 
@michaelpri Blacklisted user and registered question as true positive: added title to the Bayesian doctype 'bad'.
 
The rep income for "this feature is annoying" answer has stopped :(
 
5:29 AM
[ SmokeDetector ] Repeating characters in body: Linking Oracle 10g XE with SQL server using ODBC by user3541877 on dba.stackexchange.com
[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword in body, blacklisted website: NITROXIN To Keep Your Brain Healthy As You Get Older by erineliz14 on meta.stackexchange.com
 
@SmokeDetector tpu
 
@michaelpri Blacklisted user and registered question as true positive: added title to the Bayesian doctype 'bad'.
[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword in body, blacklisted website: NITROXIN Keeping Fit Includes Exercises For The Brain by erineliz14 on drupal.stackexchange.com
 
@SmokeDetector tpu
 
@michaelpri Blacklisted user and registered question as true positive: added title to the Bayesian doctype 'bad'.
[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword in title: Body Building Muscle Mass suppliment? by betty vank on superuser.com
 
sd tpu-
 
5:36 AM
@SmokeDetector tpu
 
@michaelpri Blacklisted user and registered question as true positive: added title to the Bayesian doctype 'bad'.
 
@James I think something's broken with that command
 
[ SmokeDetector ] Blacklisted website: Stretch out the trivial. a bit by rimsha dpk on superuser.com
 
@SmokeDetector tpu
 
@michaelpri Blacklisted user and registered question as true positive: added title to the Bayesian doctype 'bad'.
[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword in body, blacklisted website: Best Saving Diet For A Bodybuilder by Bajrangi Bhaijaan on askubuntu.com
 
5:41 AM
@SmokeDetector tpu
 
@michaelpri Blacklisted user and registered question as true positive: added title to the Bayesian doctype 'bad'.
 
@michaelpri nah if you put a - sign at the end of a tpu smokey doesn't reply
 
Oh, really?
 
yeah
 
5:55 AM
[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword in body: By virtue of what do big shots trip over low? by akakawds Roed on askubuntu.com
 
sd tpu
@SmokeDetector tpu
 
@michaelpri Blacklisted user and registered question as true positive: added title to the Bayesian doctype 'bad'.
 
@ProgramFOX why doesn't the sd seem to be working?
 
6:15 AM
[ SmokeDetector ] Blacklisted website: I'm sets five goals away from home by dianamaur on drupal.stackexchange.com
[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword in title: As a Healthy Spirit Of Muscle Competition by Bajrangi Bhaijaan on askubuntu.com
 
6:31 AM
blacklist candidate actionfuelprosite.com
 
[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword in title: Muscle Building Using Only Bodyweight by Kathryn Stern on drupal.stackexchange.com
 
6:50 AM
[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword in title: Where can your people have meritorious Weight Loss recipes? by Guyue Hiloay on meta.stackexchange.com
[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword in body, blacklisted website: When Expection of this Product? by nixerjuriya on drupal.stackexchange.com
[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword in username: replica rolex daytona replica uk mad about the boy by babylisscurl on drupal.stackexchange.com
[ SmokeDetector ] Email in answer: Remedying poor interpersonal skills by Allen Seay on matheducators.stackexchange.com
[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword in title: How to claim free trial of Muscle Forge X? by Angel Blum on drupal.stackexchange.com
 
@SmokeDetector tpu-
@SmokeDetector tpu-
@SmokeDetector tpu-
@SmokeDetector tpu-
@SmokeDetector tpu-
 
7:10 AM
[ SmokeDetector ] Blacklisted website: Upcoming days and seeing a leaner by john ernesto on drupal.stackexchange.com
 
@SmokeDetector tpu-
 
blacklist candidate safehomelockandkey.com
 
7:26 AM
 
@SmokeDetector tpu-
 
[ SmokeDetector ] Email in body: sell ponzi script 2015 by Bitcoin Miner on bitcoin.stackexchange.com
 
I can't find an M.SE equivalent of this:
4
Q: Can I edit my own answer in a way that changes its meaning?

Bruce AldermanThis site appears to have a consensus about guidelines for editing others' answers: "Edits are to improve and fix posts, not to change them." But there's an answer to an old question that I want to edit in a way that does significantly change its meaning. It's my own answer, from three years ago...

does anyone happen to know of one?
 
7:47 AM
@SmokeDetector tpu-
 
7:58 AM
[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword in body: Displaying single vowel or consonant with Kotex package by Alex on tex.stackexchange.com
[ SmokeDetector ] Blacklisted website: Just don’t get them both by abut shah on meta.stackexchange.com
 
8:15 AM
@ProgramFOX What about a command for SmokeDetector which you feed a post URL in and it reports it everywhere?
privilege only
 
[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword in body, repeating characters in body: Now download video in any format you like! by mhnb werfg on drupal.stackexchange.com
 
Morning
 
@SmokeDetector tpu
 
@Manishearth Blacklisted user and registered question as true positive: added title to the Bayesian doctype 'bad'.
[ SmokeDetector ] Blacklisted website: Deltoids which is really good by qwerty dpk on superuser.com
 
@SmokeDetector tpu-
@SmokeDetector tpu-
 
8:42 AM
[ SmokeDetector ] Repeating characters in body: nova-api service shuts down automatically by Vikram on askubuntu.com
 
@SmokeDetector ignore
 
@James Post ignored; alerts about it will no longer be posted.
[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword in title: Foods to Naturally Improve Your Memory and Brain Power by Eqih Ewit on drupal.stackexchange.com
[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword in body: There are always a large amount of by susan riiley on stackoverflow.com
 
@SmokeDetector tpu-
@SmokeDetector tpu-
@SmokeDetector gone
 
[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword in title: Consuming To Construct Muscle mass? by lara hall on meta.stackexchange.com
[ SmokeDetector ] Blacklisted website: single new workout they air every by yesaw zewqa on drupal.stackexchange.com
[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword in body, blacklisted website, repeating characters in body: Why do I recommend Alpha ZXT Pill? by Tina juriya on drupal.stackexchange.com
 
and again one client had to stick his nose in the Pandora Vase of SharePoint development.... handling transactional activities on SharePoint.
 
9:07 AM
[ SmokeDetector ] Email in body: Please help me convert single URL to separate page by Santosh Kumar on webmasters.stackexchange.com
 
9:18 AM
[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword in title: Muscle Supplements For Extreme Growth by kiette wioz on meta.stackexchange.com
 
9:39 AM
@SmokeDetector tpu-
@SmokeDetector tpu-
@SmokeDetector tpu-
 
[ SmokeDetector ] Blacklisted website: I use more horny and month funny by Henry Moore on drupal.stackexchange.com
 
@SmokeDetector tpu-
@SmokeDetector tpu-
 
NEWS FLASH: recently found documents prove that @bjb568 is actually a moderator on spiceworks.com
 
[ SmokeDetector ] Offensive body detected: Sicko And Bill Clinton On Health And Wellness Trends by malcol mbridget on meta.stackexchange.com
[ SmokeDetector ] All-caps title: ABOUT SYNTAX IMPORTANCE IN COMPUTER PROGRAMMING LANGUAGE by sara rauf on programmers.stackexchange.com
[ SmokeDetector ] Blacklisted website: I'm competes with movies video games TV mom by Greg Weber on drupal.stackexchange.com
[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword in body, blacklisted website: Dorseyflexion and that's where you by Ruth Allen123 on stackoverflow.com
[ SmokeDetector ] All-caps title: HOW TO CONNECT MS SQL SERVER WITH C#ASP.NET by Dd Kumar on stackoverflow.com
 
10:10 AM
@SPArchaeologist Noooooo, that is @bjb512.
 
[ SmokeDetector ] Email in body: override contacts form in magento by venu gopal on magento.stackexchange.com
 
@InfiniteRecursion the cat is with the enemy! the cat betrayed us all!
 
[ SmokeDetector ] Offensive body detected: GetItemDataSource() in Reporting Services by Vishal Mittal on stackoverflow.com
 
@SmokeDetector why
 
first sentence...
 
10:23 AM
@Doorknob indeed. wall-of-text...
 
Flag as NAA / other -> should be a comment, depending on how generous you're feeling
 
[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword in body, blacklisted website: The restaurant look at Anne’s the thing by dianamaur on drupal.stackexchange.com
 
sd tpu
Come on, nobody fixed the bug yet? Fine, I'll do it and pull request.
@SmokeDetector tpu-
Wait, someone did fix it... O_o
Why is it still not working then?
 
10:43 AM
 
Ooh, nice!
I wonder if Firefox finally implemented that too.
 

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