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Andy

Has there been a post on MSO about the close vote stats and possible new close reasons? I have a proposal, but want to make sure I didn't miss anything

rene

@Andy you mean the new 10K tooling?

bjb568

CB is still d00med right? :p — bjb568 30 secs ago

rene

Admit we are not good at that!

Andy

5:54 PM

@rene Yeah

hichris123

@bjb568 github.com/bjb568/DevDoodle/pull/205

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, phone number detected: *~*1-844-780-6766*~* yahoo technical support-yahoo technical support number-yahoo technical support phone number by Kishan kumar on meta.stackexchange.com

hichris123

@SmokeDetector tpu-

cybermonkey

@SmokeDetector tpu-

rene

@Andy Except for some bug reports I haven't seen any new requests.

bjb568

5:57 PM

@hichris123 seems legit, I have no idea what that does

hichris123

@bjb568 Basically makes it more secure. :P

You were getting a B in SSL Labs, now you should get an A.

bjb568

Uh… secure Good!

rene

beyond secure

Doorknob

What's that word that means how many users stick around as opposed to, say, visiting a single page and leaving? User... keepage? arrggghhh I know what the word is but I can't seem to think of it right now

bjb568

stick around rate?

turn around rate?

hichris123

5:58 PM

A+ is for HSTS.

user259867

@Doorknob retention

rene

@Doorknob Conversion

Doorknob

Retention! Thanks, that's the one.

bjb568

yeah those rates

rene

at any rate

user259867

5:59 PM

> If there's enough moderation for a public beta site to consistently remain free of spam...

user259867

This room is trying hard to skew this data, though.

Unihedron

@HomegrownTomato Close Drupal. Please.

bjb568

force HTTPS images md, cipher whatevers and etc are rolling out

user259867

Bad news: it's graduated.

Unihedron

We should all stop flagging spam from Drupal so it gets closed.

rene

6:00 PM

And then have that crap on SO? No thanks.

bjb568

I should really stop putting random crap on the Q&A branch.

too late

Andy

@rene Now there is :)

gah! @AlexisKing shakes fist

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, phone number detected: //1-844-780-6766// yahoo support phone number yahoo Tech support phone number Yahoo tech support number yahoo technical support number by deepak basnal on meta.stackexchange.com

Doorknob

@SmokeDetector tpu-

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector ] Offensive body detected: using foreign keys in insert queries by sundeqvist on stackoverflow.com

rene

6:03 PM

@Andy oh...that is a dupe

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, phone number detected: IS CALL 1-844-780-6766#$%^@ YAHOO technical support phone number=YAHOO tech support phone number=YAHOO customer service phone number by Herry Parkar on meta.stackexchange.com

Andy

Sure is. I wonder why that didn't appear in my searches.

user259867

Among betas, Code Review leads in traffic with 41000 visits/day; Stack Overflow на русском leads in questions, with 79 per day.

Doorknob

@SmokeDetector tpu-

bjb568

hichris123

6:04 PM

@SmokeDetector tpu-

Doorknob

is faster

hichris123

:(

rene

@Andy you are seeing those because of legal

JonasCz

stackoverflow.com/search?q=dynamicdrive.com+is%3Aa Most of these are NAA. / Link only.

hichris123

@bjb568 ssllabs.com/ssltest/analyze.html?d=devdoodle.net

SmokeDetector

6:06 PM

[ SmokeDetector ] All-caps title: A SHUNT ACTIVE POWER FILTER CONTROLLED BY FUZZY LOGIC CONTROLLER FOR CURRENT HARMONIC COMPENSATION AND POWER FACTOR IMPROVEMENT by Rahma Abd El Moumane on programmers.stackexchange.com

bjb568

> Not valid for "www.devdoodle.net" CONFUSING

there ain't no www

Andy

@rene Makes sense. I'll look again in a month or two and see if a new reason would still make sense.

Let's say it again: makes sense

rene

makes sense

bjb568

> (1 seconds to go)

Do I need to do anything about community.qualys.com/blogs/securitylabs/2011/10/31/… @hichris?

hichris123

@bjb568 Not sure.

JonasCz

6:15 PM

need cv stackoverflow.com/questions/2487045/…

hichris123

@bjb568 nodejs.org/api/…

bjb568

Yay! I don't need to do anything!

hichris123

@bjb568 I notice your logos aren't svgs. :P

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector ] All-caps title: FUZZY LOGIC CONTROLLER FOR CURRENT HARMONIC COMPENSATION by Rahma Abd El Moumane on programmers.stackexchange.com

bjb568

@hichris123 go make them SVGs then

cybermonkey

6:23 PM

developing a new multiplayer server network to replace the failed Gamespy system, called Wildfire

Jason C

Q: On http://unicode.org/faq/casemap_charprop.html#4 and in related publications, shouldn't "titlecase" be "title case" or "title-case" instead? I don't think "titlecase" is really a word... although it seems to be in use, if rarely, but not in any dictionaries that I know of (as opposed to "lowercase" and "uppercase").

A: Thank you for your comment. The editor has replied: that spelling is our house style. We have many spellings for technical terms that may not match regular English usage. The use of "titlecase" on our website matches our usage in the Unicode Standard, Version 7.0 (and pr…

cybermonkey

the logo I made for it, opinions?

hichris123

@bjb568 Not me, just found it ironic that you wanted SVGs everywhere... but your own site.

> Eat my big, orange traffic cone, or I will continue to bang my head on your bridges.

7

A: Cannot send a message to moderator

A mod has to respond because so many contacted by a moderator continuously reply with something like this: Eat my big, orange traffic cone, or I will continue to bang my head on your bridges. It also (unfortunately) sometimes looks like this: I will kill your whole f**king family you n...

Jason C

@cybermonkey I commend the fire-styled WF.

bjb568

@hichris123 I don't have a vector editor.

im poor

cybermonkey

6:24 PM

@JasonC you noticed it :). thanks ;)

hichris123

@bjb568 How about the thing @Undo showed me?

Inkscape I think it was.

Doorknob

Inkscape is really great.

bjb568

Doesn't really work on macs.

It claims to, but doesn't.

Doorknob

It... should

bjb568

It requires installing some utility that was deprecated in OS X, then I do, then it still doesn't work.

hichris123

6:26 PM

@bjb568 Yeah, when you have a 5K display... totally.

bjb568

I don't.

I really need one tho.

hichris123

Oh, nevermind.

Mooseman

@hichris123 You committed that to memory? What bjb said? You're weird.

hichris123

@Mooseman huh wha?

bjb568

chat.meta.stackexchange.com/…

Mooseman

6:29 PM

@hichris123 That bjb talked about a 5k display

bjb568

Yeah, just like I remember that you failed obvious audits.

Jason C

@cybermonkey If you're finding that people don't often recognize it, perhaps making the components of the F slightly more orthogonal could help. But I'm definitely not a graphic designer, don't take that as sound advice.

hichris123

0

Q: If 3 is the least prime factor of number ‘a' and 7 is the least prime factor of number ‘b'.Least prime factor of a+b is

....................................

number-theory

cybermonkey

@JasonC I literally made it 5 mins ago.

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector ] Repeating words in answer: Applescript IF statement with click and keystroke? by Balm on apple.stackexchange.com

cybermonkey

6:30 PM

@SmokeDetector tpu-

Jason C

Oh word.

hichris123

One more close vote: stackoverflow.com/questions/30578776/cant-write-partition-table

bjb568

kapluum!

cybermonkey

@hichris123 confused, why are both users' accounts deleted?

last message they posted was 8 mins ago

hichris123

@cybermonkey When a question is migrated, the accounts aren't migrated (the user has to manually create an SU account attached to their SO account).

cybermonkey

6:34 PM

@hichris123 makes sense

bjb568

wot

It's deleted ∵ I deleted it!

Braiam

teh kitteh scrapped it!

Mooseman

Ask Microsoft proposal on Area 51: area51.stackexchange.com/proposals/80369/…

user259867

@SmokeDetector fpu-

bjb568

Should I buy iDraw? indeeo.com/idraw/mac.html

hichris123

6:51 PM

Ugh Travis's question just reminded me how much I dislike the new nav system.

@hichris123 "Are you saying that it's possible for a site to stay in beta forever?" Yes. — Ana ♦ 56 secs ago

Braiam

this is funny

hichris123

Not sure how to feel about this.

And a wild @Carrie appears.

cybermonkey

what hardware do you guys use for development (seeing as the majority of us a devs)?

user259867

@hichris123 Then it's not "beta" anymore. Let's propose new terminology.

user259867

Also, why is everybody posting comments there? No answers yet.

cybermonkey

6:59 PM

that's my baby, built her last month.

hichris123

@cybermonkey 970?

user259867

What is another situation in which promotion is possible, but not necessary?

cybermonkey

@hichris123 960

hichris123

Ah. I have a 750 Ti.

cybermonkey

only 8GB RAM, but it's enough

Undo

7:01 PM

@cybermonkey 2012 13" Macbook Pro.

Everything I need.

Although I'm not a gamer

Alexis King

@hichris123 Ooh, 750. I still do all my development on a TI-83.

Jason C

@AlexisKing My HP-48GX will destroy you.

Just kidding, somebody stole it out of my apartment years ago :(

Probably you. Because you were jealous.

GIVE IT BACK.

Undo

> When a site starts to consistently receive 10 questions/day, we’ll consider it for graduation.

Alexis King

Hold up with the accusations there—I'm still looking at the Wikipedia page for RPL and trying to decide if it's more horrifying than TI-BASIC or not.

Undo

Doorknob

7:06 PM

> consider

:P

user259867

@Doorknob consider it considered

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector ] All-caps title: UPDATE COM ARRAY MULTIDIMENSIONAL NO MYSQL COM PHP - AJUDA URGENTE! by José Damião on pt.stackoverflow.com

user259867

@SmokeDetector URGENTE you say... some things transcend language boundaries.

bjb568

user259867

@HomegrownTomato feel free to start a meta post! — Pops ♦ 24 secs ago

user259867

7:11 PM

(about renaming "beta").

Undo

@bjb568 I still have your previous image in Chrome's cache >:D

Braiam

@JasonC please, tell me that's not a thing.... PLEASE

Undo

(and there isn't much anyone can do with your serial number, anyway)

bjb568

whatever

Jason C

2 hours ago, by Jason C

No I'm not! GeoJason is a thing. Should've discussed it on meta. Suck it, Jason!

geojason.info

Braiam

7:12 PM

@JasonC oh god

bjb568

2 hours ago, by bjb568

@JasonC nuuu, jason!

Jason C

I share the dismay.

user259867

Well, I want to come up with a better gradation first... "private beta" should be simply "beta". Then the site is... a village. And graduation is when it gets incorporated as a town.

Jason C

The tag keeps getting misused by people spelling JSON wrong.

Carrie Kendall

@hichris123 i got lost :P

SmokeDetector

7:14 PM

[ SmokeDetector ] Url in title: [XKCD: Keyboard Mash](xkcd.com/1530) Anomalies by MickyT on codegolf.stackexchange.com

Jason C

@HomegrownTomato Lifehacks Village sounds like a frustrating place to live.

hichris123

@CarrieKendall We don't bite. Typically. :P

cybermonkey

@SmokeDetector tpu-

hichris123

Anyway, I've always wondered @Carrie: why a strawberry?

user259867

@SmokeDetector 4 criteria, good move there.

Carrie Kendall

7:15 PM

i had my picture up for a while, then i got hit on sometime later

Jason C

@hichris123 Because Carrie Strawberry sounds awesome.

cybermonkey

@SmokeDetector gone

bjb568

me eat strawberry!

:3

Carrie Kendall

so i went back into hiding with this dope ass strawberry

Jason C

It is pretty baller.

Carrie Kendall

7:16 PM

and my steam pic is a strawberry.. it used to be a mango

hichris123

@JasonC Well, I was listening to the radio a while back (I know) and there was an ad for Sherri's Berries (or whatever). So it kinda fits... :P

bjb568

-1 pelo titulo "ajuda/urgente" e o uso desnecessário da caixa-alta — Guilherme Nascimento 7 mins ago

numbers too!

Braiam

if you didn't know, get the heck out of Steve house

hichris123

@CarrieKendall gotcha. Well, hopefully SE is getting better for all women.

bjb568

and strawberries!

Carrie Kendall

7:20 PM

equal pay for strawberries is third on my agenda

hichris123

How about tomatoes?

Doorknob

or inanimate objects

hichris123

@CarrieKendall Oh, please don't tell me strawberries are gaining sentience and taking over the world.

Doorknob

(in general)

hichris123

Skynet one day... strawberries the next.

Braiam

7:21 PM

yeah, lets talk about doors...

bjb568

Sooooo… doors have knobs.

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, phone number detected: //1-866-978-6819// Gmail Customer service phone number Gmail customer service number Gmail Customer support number by deepak basnal on meta.stackexchange.com

Jason C

Check out these cat toys I got:

Doorknob

waits

Jason C

Why is the toast so sad??

hichris123

7:23 PM

Anyone else here running the Win 10 preview? I'm... quite lost trying to use the "Insider Hub" (whatever that means)

Carrie Kendall

@SmokeDetector i dont even...

hichris123

@CarrieKendall We've been getting a deluge of support spam recently. Not sure why they thing it's an effective method of advertising, but...

Jason C

I kind of want to call them.

It's toll free.

Undo

Do it.

hichris123

That's what you think.

Jason C

7:26 PM

Oh but then they'll have my number.

Undo

And record it so we can all laugh at it

hichris123

Until you get charged for it.

> •Windows 95 Plus! was the first product to ship the Comic Sans MS font family.

So it's Windows 95's fault we have Comic Sans.

Jason C

Clearly "Plus!" was an understatement.

Carrie Kendall

it will probably be your long lost prince uncle from Tanzania

Jason C

I do miss him.

Carrie Kendall

7:27 PM

rumor has it that he's lookin to hide some money in your bank account

cybermonkey

@hichris123 Reminds me of this:

Jason C

Only interested if it is a sum of 100000000 US DOLAR or larger.

Undo

YES

bjb568

TRUE

Undo

I GOT AN A IN A FOREIGN LANGUAGE CLASS

Jason C

7:30 PM

hichris123

@Undo A-. ;P

Undo

@hichris123 still an A :P

Jason C

I haven't checked cyanide & happiness in a long time. I forgot how great it was.

2

hichris123

Ooh, I finally figured out what the Insider Hub's purpose is. It's supposed to point to you the Feedback application so you can view feedback.

How... interesting?

Jason C

Oh god. Last one I promise:

I feel like that should be a 404 graphic somewhere.

bjb568

7:35 PM

@Undo u r suk

Undo

@bjb568 u r haz SR accownt. >:D

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, phone number detected: :::1-866-978-6819:::Gmail password recovery number-Gmail password recovery contact number-Gmail password recovery phone number by Kishan kumar on meta.stackexchange.com

Doorknob

@SmokeDetector tpu-

Undo

Oh look our friends are back

I was beginning to wonder if we were too rude and they left

Mooseman

reopen-pls meta.stackexchange.com/q/257622/202832

Undo

7:37 PM

@Mooseman why?

Doorknob

@SmokeDetector fpuu-

err whoops I guess that worked

Undo

yeah. It checks for fpu at the start, then silences if - is anywhere in the message

So fpu foobar-baz would work

Mooseman

The answer on the "duplicate" question is only a link to Google. Although it does provide an answer, it is not an official source. — Mooseman 5 secs ago

cybermonkey

@SmokeDetector gone

Doorknob

@Mooseman How does that make it not a duplicate?

bjb568

7:39 PM

Should anchors in comments have target blank like in chat?

Mooseman

@Doorknob Erm. Nevermind.

cybermonkey

@Mooseman There's a bounty reason especially for wanting an official source: Looking for an answer drawing from credible and/or official sources..

Mooseman

@cybermonkey I left a comment and may start a bounty in the future.

Undo

Why is my 21,650 rep showing as 21.6k instead of 21.7k?

Mooseman

@Undo Blame caching!

AstroCB

7:45 PM

@Undo That should have been fixed (?)

hichris123

@Undo ... because you think an A- is an A? :P

Undo

@hichris123 close enough :P

Anna Lear

@ᔕᖺᘎᕊ Woof, I'm really not 100% with it today. :P but yeah, good call. Normally I wouldn't care but since I posted an actual code screenshot... a separate answer is probably best.

Jason C

0_0 Holy crap... @JasonC: You're amazing... (WOW...) — SarahofGaia 4 mins ago

bjb568

@hichris123 It is at my skewl

Mooseman

7:47 PM

Jason C

I'm the best. Ha ha. Does the best-person dance. \o/ \o/ Go me!

2

Doorknob

@SmokeDetector tpu waffles-ponies

SmokeDetector

@Doorknob Blacklisted user and registered question as true positive: added title to the Bayesian doctype 'bad'.

Undo

@SmokeDetector gone

cybermonkey

tpu-

Doorknob

7:48 PM

@Undo you lied

Anna Lear

could probably just ban "rohit kumar" as a username as this point...

cybermonkey

@Doorknob dammit

Undo

@Doorknob what?

Doorknob

@Undo I put a dash, but it still replied to me. :P

user259867

@bjb568 No. In chat this makes sense because they point to a resource of a different nature.

hichris123

7:49 PM

@Doorknob You need the dash at the end of the command, like tpu-.

Undo

no, tpu foo-bar should work

Doorknob

11 mins ago, by Undo

yeah. It checks for fpu at the start, then silences if - is anywhere in the message

cybermonkey

Last one, I swear:

AstroCB

11 mins ago, by Undo

So fpu foobar-baz would work

Jason C

@cybermonkey "Does your face hurt? 'Cause it's killing me!" My dad said that to me at least twice a day for the first 15 years of my life. It's why I'm the best-person-ever now.

Doorknob

7:51 PM

According to the source code, the dash has to be in the first word.

cybermonkey

hichris123

@Undo Mm my guess is we split at word boundaries.

Doorknob

So tpuwaffles-ponies would work, and so would tpu-stuff, but not tpu -stuff.

Undo

Ohhhhh now I get it

yeah

AstroCB

2 mins ago, by cybermonkey

Last one, I swear:

cybermonkey

7:52 PM

@AstroCB it's a bonus panel to that one, so doesn't really count ;)

Undo

message_parts = ev.message.content_source.split(" ")

I'm an idiot

13

user259867

@Undo Why do you assume 21.65 should be rounded to 21.7?

user259867

I like rounding to the even digit.

Undo

@HomegrownTomato because that's how it's worked for years and I don't like change

Doorknob

I made a tool to create keyboard cheat sheets like this:

Jason C

7:53 PM

@Undo I've been waiting for one of those for a while.

Doorknob

But I have no idea what to name it. Ideas?

(trying to think of a name has been the hardest part so far -_-)

Undo

@JasonC lol, I wondered whether it was you or @Inf.

hichris123

@michaelpri Sorry to startle you and rene! Subject has been edited. — Ana ♦ 2 mins ago

Jason C

@Doorknob "Keyboard Cheat Sheet Creator"

hichris123

New title: "Health.SE shutting down due to @michaelpri and @rene's negligence"

9

Mooseman

7:57 PM

@Doorknob KeyCheat?

Jason C

That sounds like some trainer / cheat engine style program.

michaelpri

@hichris123 :)

rene

Your welcome @hichris123 I always want to help

hichris123

:D

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