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12:02 AM
@JasonC frying removes most of the nutritious elements food has
I think that only proteins and oil (obviously) can survive the heat
 
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<-- quit frying 7 years ago. No frying pan.
 
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Yeah. But if I had it, I'd probably use it for frying. It's addictive.
 
@Yes then you don't live in US/EU
 
How's my button look? jsfiddle.net/jbadva9z
 
12:19 AM
@Yes Psh, pans. I'm talking a half a gallon of canola oil in a pot.
 
burn off an extra 5 calories by hitting your review limits
 
Or by working for DD!
 
or walking to the freezer and grabbing the ice cream
 
best calorie burning method ever
 
12:35 AM
@bjb568 Does working for DD burn off calories because it doesn't pay well enough to eat?
 
Yup :)
 
You could split your allowance between your employees.
 
1 candy bar per week…
 
What kind of candy bar?
 
what is dis
@JasonC whatever's in the vending machine
 
12:56 AM
Tomato? @Homegrown
It's a little early in the season for tomatoes.
 
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Early development.
 
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(I used to be back in the days; not so much now)
 
@hichris @uni @programfox github.com/bjb568/DevDoodle/pull/203 Pull request #203!
Yes, that includes SSL.
 
How enthralling.
 
Oh right, I'm not logged in.
 
1:08 AM
Homegrown Tomato
I like it.
 
@bjb568 That is a big commit.
 
:D
Some of it is just getting rid of the modules.
 
devdoodle feature request: state actual password requirements on account creation screen
 
There are no hard password requirements.
Except 8 chars min, but often you need more.
Just make a better password until it works.
 
Then why is the submit button grayed out?
 
1:16 AM
∵ it requires a good password
 
@bjb568 I have no idea what your site considers to be a good password.
I have been trying to create an account for 5 minutes. I cannot. Therefore, -1 user.
 
The more entropy, the better!
Generally, the more length, the better!
1234567890 is literally a valid password.
 
After randomly typing letters, symbols, and numbers, until the site inexplicably accepts the password, the only passwords I have come up with are ones I can't remember. Therefore, not registering.
 
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DevDoodle is designed to be the Malbolge of websites.
 
1:19 AM
@JasonC You should not remember your password.
 
Yes I should. The only important thing is that a computer can't easily brute force it.
This is not the same as a human not being able to remember it.
Anyways I picked 0123456789 (complexity requirement fail). Now I have to figure out what your captcha wants from me.
 
@JasonC Why would you ever want to remember your passwords? To use the same one on other sites? To have it tie in with easily found personal information like your pet's name?
 
I remember all of my passwords...
And they're not easy to brute-force.
 
I use lastpass to generate 20char random passwords.
 
Expand (x+1)². Nope not "(x+1)(x+1)". Crap now I have to type a password again. Nope, not "xx+2x+1". Crap now I have to type password again. "x^2+2*x+1" there we go. Oh username taken. This oughta be fun.
You just made your registration process take > 12 minutes for a reasonably intelligent user. Congrats. :P
@bjb568 No. To log in to a site without having to consult a document containing all my passwords.
I currently use a different password for (almost) every site I have an account on, and none are easy to brute force, and I remember all of them.
 
1:26 AM
Use a password manager!
 
Why?
So that I can log in to DD?
 
No, because it's a commonly accepted security best-practice.
 
I see. Is that why your registration process just failed? :P
 
!xkcd find passwords
 
1:27 AM
@JasonC Since when did (x+1)² -> (x+1)(x+1) make sense?
 
This conversation couldn't go on any further without that.
 
@xkcdBot Any passphrase would have been accepted too.
 
@bjb568 Since you forced me to recall algebraic expansion rules that I haven't needed in 20 years with your weird captchas.
 
You should know this stuff.
 
Your UX attitude is all wrong, I'm afraid. :P
 
1:30 AM
@bjb568 It is correct.
 
Fwiw I do actually write down my important passwords, but I only do that in case I have a stroke some day. Which... is an admittedly weird reason to use a password manager, now that I think about it.
 
It's not most simplified, but...
 
Why would you think that's all you have to do?
 
But the boy scout motto is "be prepared".
 
Should I say "to the form ax² + bx + c"?
 
1:32 AM
The irony is you're talking about "commonly accepted security best-practice[s]" and yet you're rolling your own!
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@bjb568 Why are your captchas math problems? That's easier for computers to decipher than are regular captchas.
 
^
 
@AstroCB It also filters out users, to a degree.
 
...
 
And I really don't want to use Google's borked captcha.
 
1:33 AM
16 secs ago, by AstroCB
...
 
So I'm assuming that DD's user base is 99% bot, 1% bjb.
 
So, it's raining here. How's the weather for you guys?
 
You'd have to write a custom bot to solve that.
Most people won't.
 
@bjb568 If it's enough to end DD, I think @JasonC would be happy to.
 
@bjb568 I suspect most people's bots wouldn't get past the "guess the password entropy requirements" stage to begin with.
Actually you may be pioneering a new idea of making the password itself be the captcha. :P
 
1:37 AM
@bjb568 needs to implement BitSpray.
 
Anyways, I probably already have an account. Do you have a pw reset thingy yet? @bjb
 
@JasonC Of course
@hichris123 something tells me you're not serious
 
@bjb568 Where is it?
 
@bjb568 Think of the bits!
 
@JasonC on your user page
 
1:39 AM
I wonder if you could do something similar to this using SE usernames...
 
How do I get to my user page without being logged in?
 
@JasonC … you need to be logged in to change your password
 
@JasonC you pout.
 
@bjb568 But I forgot my password. So now, going back to the original question: Do you have a pw reset thingy yet?
 
1:41 AM
Are you running locally or on devdoodle.net?
 
devdoodle.net
 
@JasonC Oh, for if you forgot it? You ask me to nuke your account.
Wait… forgot your password? Like, you didn't use a pw manager?
 
Nuke my account please. Username JasonC. I am 99% sure it's me but you may want to verify that the email address is mine first.
 
...
 
@bjb568 More like I typed in a random pw just to see what the site did back when you first opened it, then never used it again.
 
1:42 AM
 
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The SO user list has 111110 pages right now.
 
ur moms user list has 111110 pages
 
1:50 AM
 
@AstroCB You can't do that in your head?
 
@bjb568 Links are more self-explanatory than just "62."
 
Meh
 
I don't know why, but I love this comment so much:
@Scimonster Oh you are one of those people who are afraid of bugs? I'm only afraid of spiders and slimy things like slugs. Flies are fine. I like trying to catch them; it's quite fun. If you aren't afraid, and they're just gross, just wash your hands afterwards. Or you can not wash your hands and just improve your immune system. — Quincunx Dec 14 '14 at 20:08
 
@HomegrownTomato 63 pages?
Oh right, forgot to subtract another 1. :P
 
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2:02 AM
But now it's 63. :)
 
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Saved for posterity.
 
So I was right anyway. heh.
 
2:16 AM
> Edmodo is an education version of Facebook.
sigh…
 
I ran into a CAPTCHA, but when I clicked the checkbox, it didn't believe that I was human, so it gave me a bunch of pictures and told me to select the foods. Suffice it to say that I failed because the images were so low-res that I couldn't tell what was in them.
 
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When does Community lock questions (other than spam and rejected migrations)?
 
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That would probably depend on what specifically the question is, as there are many fields that pertain to ants. Can you give us a more specific idea of what your question is about? — AstroCB 4 hours ago
Turns out that there was a very specific question in mind:
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Q: What Ants do with our finger nails?

Aishwarya ShivaThere is place in my house where I cut my nails daily. At that place there is a ant hole to a ant colony. Whenever I cut my nails on them, they take my nails inside their colony. I was wondering what they do with them? They protect their houses with them or feed them to their young ones? Check o...

 
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And the questions about ants in keyboard can be asked at LifehacksHomegrown Tomato 20 secs ago
 
2:28 AM
FSM this edmodo thing is confusing.
 
Free mistrakes for everyone!
 
Aha! @Homegrown finally has a new name. I was wondering how long it would be...
 
Haha, my health textbook lists new vocab words: heredity, environment, peers, culture, media, technology o_o
 
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Hope I didn't disappoint.
 
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2:43 AM
@bjb568 Is "health" a school subject now?
 
Yes, it's a required semester class.
I'm taking it this summer, along with PE.
 
The username changes make me uneasy, lol. It gives you this sort of... disorienting transience.
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Idea: schools set up clones of Area 51 where students propose, define, and commit to subjects to be taught.
 
inb4 lifehacks class
 
Good old health class.
Good old rant about how schools never have a mental health class.
 
2:45 AM
This book supposedly includes that.
 
Supposedly. But guess what you get if you don't pay attention in health class and fail it? All the amphetamines you can swallow! Yay! \o/
 
If the question asks you something that's literally right there in the book, you can just copy the sentence word-for-word, right?
 
You should copy it word for word, but reverse the order of the words.
 
Oh, ok.
#bestadviceever
 
#urwelcome
 
2:48 AM
I'll just merge the book and wikipedia stuff.
 
If you get a copy of somebody's paper that you don't like, I bet you can edit wikipedia to match the paper then tell the teacher that they plagiarized it.
I wish wikipedia was around when I was in school.
 
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Q: Bluetooth adapters not found in ubuntu 14.04 ??How to overcome this problem?

Manjeet SinghGive me the command lines or give me way to get away from this..

 
> Health is a state of complete physical, mental and social well-being
Boom, WHO, done.
 
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New take on "give me liberty..."
 
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> Best part about email support? Hanging up on abusive people literally requires no effort. Worst part? No visceral satisfaction of hanging up -- Joshua Heyer at 2:58 PM - 31 May 2015 via Twitter
 
2:57 AM
@JasonC I'm legitimately surprised that no one has done that before.
 
[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword in body: Driver's license, UK, change of address by Joe Blow on expatriates.stackexchange.com
 
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@SmokeDetector fp- bumped by NAA, which I flagged
 
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If you have 10K and open a question with delete votes, it's not clear whether you voted to delete: you have to hover over the "delete (x)" link to find out. Userscript idea: do this automatically and change the color of the delete link.
 
AAAAAAGH I PUSHED BUTTONS AND LOST MY ANSWERS
edmodo sucks.
I'm writing my answers in jsfiddle now.
 
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> I have some bad news for you... Mathematics has nothing to do with reality. We are just a small community of weirdos who spend their lives on this website since we're too scared of real world.. – V..

> @V.. Some of us are even scared of this website. –
 
3:04 AM
:p
RLY? My textbook says I need 8 cups of water per day.
 
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43
Q: Do people need to drink 8 glasses of water a day?

Monkey TuesdaySince I was a kid, I can't remember how many times I've heard that a healthy person needs to drink at least 8 glasses of water a day. There are definitely plenty of reasons to remain well-hydrated. However is there any scientific evidence of harmful effects to those who don't drink at least th...

 
no
 
@bjb568 will review when I'm @ home & have time
 
ok
What are you going home from?
 
3:14 AM
I'm @ skool
 
Sunday?
> The health continuum is a scale of physical, mental, and social well-being that spans from very poor health that can result in a premature death to a high level of health characterised by optimal efficiency and a feeling of energy and well-being.
Too much effort?
 
@bjb568 it's monday here
timezones member :D
 
You still have skewl? How long does that last?
 
I have an hour and a bit more of time to slack off, but I can't do H on a school computer
 
I meant on a days/weeks scale, everybody's out of skewl here already.
 
3:19 AM
Huh, so soon? I haven't even taken the major exams yet, only the minor ones.
So I'm still stuck until my holidays arrive, which are so short and crammed with stuff to do I won't even call it a holiday.
 
@Unihedron University people got out a month ago over here.
@uni should go to uni!
 
why no skip skool ensted?
 
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*skewl
 
@HomegrownTomato No.
 
3:35 AM
[ SmokeDetector ] Email in body: Difficulty setting up CiviMail on Bluehost by Laurie on civicrm.stackexchange.com
 
> For valid health information, stick to Web sites that have .gov or .edu in their addresses
sets up notsuspicious.edu.devdoodlr.io
 
@bjb568 Guess what? Most of these "valid" sites aren't even HTTPS'd
 
But DevDoodle almost is!
 
4:00 AM
facedesk
 
u suk.
 
Blame edmodo.
 
[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword in body, blacklisted website: Alpha Shred Exercises You Should Be Doing by noraleah27 on superuser.com
 
@SmokeDetector tpu
 
@Unihedron Blacklisted user and registered question as true positive: added title to the Bayesian doctype 'bad'.
 
4:13 AM
oops forgot quiet mode
 
Wow, every Main Idea marked in the beginning of every section of my textbook is a tautology (which my autocomplete helpfully suggests to be ⊤): "Regularly participating in health-promoting behaviors will help you reach a high level of wellness"…
 
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4:26 AM
*behaviours... if that is a correct word to use at all. More like activities.
 
[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword in body, blacklisted website: Assists you to get whole result satisfaction? by caryjonosy on drupal.stackexchange.com
 
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It's annoying to see "read this post in our app" on top of spam.
 
@HomegrownTomato LQ textbook
> maintaining a health weight
pfft
> balancing caloric intake with energy expenditure to achieve a healthy weight equilibrium
sounds way more kewl
 
[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword in title: Can You Build Muscle With Weight Bands? by Pinrel Anone on meta.stackexchange.com
[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title: How to Have Fast Weight Loss by Hazel Rizzo on drupal.stackexchange.com
 
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4:45 AM
@SmokeDetector fp-
 
[ SmokeDetector ] All-caps title: HELP ME MOVIE NAME by jbwilkins662 on movies.stackexchange.com
 
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@SmokeDetector ignore- whatever garbage that is
 
4:59 AM
Finished chapter 1 of 3. Is 0:59.
 
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* Assessments
 
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"brushing teeth daily" doesn't seem often enough.
 
[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword in body, blacklisted website: Supplements for Better Skin by aineea wioz on meta.stackexchange.com
 
@HomegrownTomato whatever, I'm just copying from the textbook
don't overthink it! we're going for quantity here, not quality!
i.e. it's too damn late for this crap
 
user259867
With all those typose? Spell-check?
 
user259867
5:06 AM
Late night is when I do my best crap-writing, too.
 
Wrote it in github, no spellcheck.
besides, it'll look more authetic
 
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When the part of the brain responsible for critical assessment of one's writing is less active.
 
These people think 0/0 is 0% for some reason.
Dev must have been writing wabsite late at night too.
What's with all this about breakfast? I just ain't hungry in the mornin'.
 
[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword in body, blacklisted website: What did you think liquids any comments please by keiraroger on drupal.stackexchange.com
 
@bjb568 % is just % -- notice it already has a numerator and denominator, and they are the very ones that confuse people..
 
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5:18 AM
@bjb568 It doesn't have to be huge...
 
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@HomegrownTomato When I wake up I don't want to eat anything for like 4 hours.
Something like juice is basically the max I want.
 
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^^ breakfast of Arie Litovsky, iOS dev for SE.
 
I'm not going to be eating or sniffing up whatever the iOS devs are having.
 
[ SmokeDetector ] Blacklisted website: Normally I would just be terribly by suma lhrd on superuser.com
 
5:20 AM
Then you aren't getting enough exercise, or are eating too much too late.
 
hey, I can eat pizza at midnight whenever I want!
and what is an "exercise"?
 
No, you can't.
Midnight comes but once a day.
 
:o
how does time?
what can possible?
 
midnight != whenever
 
5:23 AM
We need bounties on spammers.
 
user259867
@tchrist It's midnight somewhere...
 
user259867
By solar time, at least.
 
Like $5,000 per spammer, dead or alive and no questions asked.
 
> Session two meets Monday, one meets Tuesday
D'oh.
Ok, then I'm not going tomorrow!
facedesk
Seems pretty backwards tho.
 
The moon is full. It is very bright. THINGS are out there.
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5:25 AM
Unless it's cloudy/raining, like here.
 
No, it's very bright ∵ I have my laptop brightness turned up all the way.
y'all are very bright
 
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@SmokeDetector fp-
 
user259867
So it's not just summer homework, but you also have some sort of class meetings in summer? Weird preppy school is weird.
 
[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword in body, blacklisted website: Intensely is an immensely neurologically by good hoty on superuser.com
 
The class meetings are for taking tests for summer health.
I'm doing it ∵ I want to I want to avoid taking health and PE during the skewl year.
 
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5:29 AM
Triple dot notation is not math. It's some silly thing invented in U.S. schools and not used anywhere else.
 
I like it.
There are such dots.
Phone autocaroot is so smart!
 
@tchrist Got most of my peppers, eggplant and some tomatoes in now. The rest are in my cold frame. Later than I'd have liked, but considering the weather as early as possible.
Corn is juuuust coming up...
 
Agh, is this more meatspace stuff?
 
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I can confirm changed behaviour. For the last 6 days, the number of downvotes on questions per day has increased by more than 50%. I do not know what to make of this. — mixedmath ♦ 2 hours ago
 
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I wonder if the mod's use of "behaviour" is intentional...
 
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@SmokeDetector fpu- what keyword?
 
@uni Remember to look at the DD pull req!
Night!
 
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Smokey missed the title "Endosurge is a Most Effective Testosterone Booster"; url was powerupmale.com @ProgramFOX
 
[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword in title: Best Anti Aging Serum by estel ahahn on meta.stackexchange.com
 
Same user but non-linked accounts this time
 
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blacklist candidate cacherealestate.com ^^ on three sites so far
 
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5:56 AM
@PeterJ How do you find these?
 
@HomegrownTomato, just checked a few sites they hit last time, nothing automatic
 
6:23 AM
[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword in title: Natural Herbs For Skin Care Supplement by Daisy Miler on askubuntu.com
 
[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword in body, blacklisted website: Antiaging serums cost a great? by Thozu Mock on superuser.com
 
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@HomegrownTomato know spam AFAIK
 
6:34 AM
@bummi Yes, flagged as spam
 
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Blacklist candidate proposal. Blacklisting facts\\.(com|net|org) worked very well: not a single fp that I've seen (although legitimate sites with such URL exist, they are rarely mentioned). This pattern actually made 10 other entries of Smokey's blacklist obsolete, since they also end in "facts". I suggest extending this way of blacklisting to recovery(pro)?\\.(com|net|org), which would include 14 of existing patterns. And maybe password\\.(com|net|org), including 5 existing patterns.
 
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Fun fact: when I went to check how often legitimate "recovery.com" sites are mentioned, I found two old spam posts. ^^
 
6:57 AM
poke some Smokey devs to take a look at the suggestion ^
pokes @hichris123 and @ProgramFOX for this ^^
 
Inb4 hichris123 doesn't like the math wiz's name change...
 
user259867
@InfiniteRecursion Not "inb4", you're late:
 
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6 hours ago, by hichris123
It's a little early in the season for tomatoes.
 
@HomegrownTomato :(
 
7:04 AM
[ SmokeDetector ] Url in title: http://testosteroneboosterup.com/lreve-24k-cream/ by jainyhone on drupal.stackexchange.com
 
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But later experimental evidence supported the name change:
 
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2 hours ago, by Shog9
@tchrist Got most of my peppers, eggplant and some tomatoes in now. The rest are in my cold frame. Later than I'd have liked, but considering the weather as early as possible.
 
:D
@Roombatron5000 is late. He needs a new name...
 
@SmokeDetector someone is trying to improve the post
 
@bummi :O
gone
What was the mistake? Unsuspending a friend, using "testing" as the reason, or leaving in the middle of things? — random 16 hours ago
 
7:11 AM
uff ... never ending story :/
 
yep, got a ping in this regard some time ago, the story continues...
in Shadow's Den, 2 days ago, by Shadow Wizard
@DroidDev it was testing, I think he didn't realize the impact until it was too late. He left poor @Inf and @Uni with 1 rep, and reduced my rep in 30k or so.
in Shadow's Den, 2 days ago, by Shadow Wizard
@DroidDev well, those left with 1 rep and without any privileges didn't think so... if nothing would have been done, they would've been really furious and for good reason
lol
I never asked for niceal's suspension, but users speculate.
 
Tabloid on the Meta: Feud between Infinite Recursion and nicael? Shadow Wizard has the inside story...
 
I think there was no need to ask for ... it was to obvious and Meta will be monitored
 
[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword in body, repeating characters in body: Why Bounds to the amount of fat every protein by Frances juriya on drupal.stackexchange.com
 
@SmokeDetector tpu-
 
7:21 AM
[ SmokeDetector ] Blacklisted website: How to take care of oily skin by Maureen Stark on drupal.stackexchange.com
 
@SmokeDetector trpu-
 
@HomegrownTomato same here: english.stackexchange.com/a/249670/30774
 
[ SmokeDetector ] Offensive body detected: For this, it is heavy that your debase by japalrans on superuser.com
 
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@SmokeDetector tpu-spam
 
7:26 AM
@bummi Failed spam, the link does not work.
 
@JonasCz I know ... ;)
 
Shog's answer stackoverflow.com/questions/179713/… has reached 1000 votes, his first one to do so !
 
[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword in title: Fabriqués muscles déchirés effort by capucinesauve on superuser.com
 
blacklist candidate usamedicalsurgical.com
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@JonasCz now it's a fairy tale
 
user259867
A fairy tale people can look up in jQuery doc, but they won't.
 
 
@HomegrownTomato, Your name changes are really confusing, see the third comment here: meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/295713/… What ?
 
[ SmokeDetector ] Offensive body detected, offensive title detected: That’s what a shit about up all right by claralrichard on askubuntu.com
 
@SmokeDetector tpu-
rude spam today
 
[ SmokeDetector ] Offensive answer detected: Why does Bateman's lawyer call him Davis? by crystalj on movies.stackexchange.com
 
@bummi What does tpu- mean?
@SmokeDetector fp
 
7:49 AM
@MadaraUchiha Registered answer as false positive.
 
- = no reply needed from smokey
 
Good morning
 
Good morning
 
Good morning
 
7:54 AM
@DarkAshelin Actually, Muffin is a name Hasbro sometimes use for Derpy. Also, probably was just a joke... still worth something since last jokes were actually pretty clever red herrings
 
blacklist candidate beautyskintry.com
 

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