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Unihedro

11:00 PM

plz do ^_^

bjb568

ok, add it as a github issue

You could also do it by yourself!

user259867

DD chat should have at least three themes: dark, darker, and #001 on #000.

tchrist

OK @James - please explain WHAT IS WRONG WITH THE FORMATTING? I followed the instructions as shown on the page? F*** your opinions about what is "welcomed" on the site - Lame A** Jackoff — user3826864 30 secs ago

Terms of Service Violation #2.

Unihedro

@bjb568 I'll try to!

bjb568

user259867

11:01 PM

@tchrist Post deleted

bjb568

@Unihedro Maybe just a client-side thing. Like a cookie with some extra CSS added if cookie present.

tchrist

@pizza Self-deleted even.

Unihedro

@bjb568 declined - Nah, not yet.

James

already flagged

bjb568

LQ stackoverflow.com/q/24871677

Unihedro

11:04 PM

School starts today for me, which means I have to head out soon.

bjb568

Skewl starts tomorrow for me.

La escuela comenza mañana para me.

tchrist

*para mí

bjb568

ugh

such complicate

tchrist

*comienza

bjb568

yeah, yeah, I have a C

tchrist

11:06 PM

I’m here to help. :)

bjb568

> CMYK monitor user here

I didn't know there was such thing.

Unihedro

CMYK color model

The CMYK color model (process color, four color) is a subtractive color model, used in color printing, and is also used to describe the printing process itself. CMYK refers to the four inks used in some color printing: cyan, magenta, yellow, and key (black). Though it varies by print house, press operator, press manufacturer, and press run, ink is typically applied in the order of the abbreviation. The "K" in CMYK stands for key because in four-color printing, cyan, magenta, and yellow printing plates are carefully keyed, or aligned, with the key of the black key plate. Some sources suggest that...

yellowantphil

@bjb568 I read that as, “school eats apples for me”... think I need to work on my Spanish

Unihedro

The entire issue tracker is filled with [enhancement]...

bjb568

heh

If there were bugs, I would fix them.

tchrist

11:08 PM

@Unihedro Where printer magenta = 330° instead of web magenta = 300° as in RGB.

bjb568

Except when I don't.

Unihedro

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector ] All-caps title: INTERNET BROWSER ICON by Meghin on android.stackexchange.com

tchrist

@yellowantphil Las manzanas me las come la escuela.

And it would be por mí in that case if you really needed to put it there.

Unihedro

spanish?

yellowantphil

11:11 PM

@tchrist why is escuela at the end? it looks like apples eat the school, except it isn’t “comen”

tchrist

@yellowantphil Because the object is being emphasized, so you put it first.

The subject is still the school, which is singular.

yellowantphil

sí

@tchrist gracias

Unihedro

2015 Moderator Election primary voting begins soon! Remember to vote for @bjb568.

10

^ star for PSA plz

yellowantphil

!//so2015

tchrist

@yellowantphil You can tell which is subject and which is object because when the direct object comes before the verb, it is mandatory to double it with an accusative clitic, here las. That way you can tell which is which even when no personal a applies.

And no, I am not talking dirty. :)

Like in English when we say "This one I will not eat."

Unihedro

11:15 PM

@yellowantphil Oops, wrong trigger.

yellowantphil

all I know is what duolingo tells me... not sure it's possible to get good at Spanish with only an app

Unihedro

!!/so2015

SmokeDetector

@Unihedro Yay for the 2015 Stack Overflow Moderator Election! Primaries begin in 0 days, 20 hours, 44 minutes and 49 seconds.

Ixrec

@tchrist My Spanish is pretty bad too, so...how does "me las come" mean "eats for me"? Wouldn't there have to be a "para" or "a" or some other word in there?

yellowantphil

@Unihedro oh right

tchrist

11:15 PM

@Ixrec It’s a dative of interest.

On my behalf.

Indirect object.

Ixrec

ok, indirect objects I know

bjb568

We'll maybe get around to learning that this quarter.

Ixrec

so an indirect object on a non-bitransitive verb implies acting on the direct object on behalf of said indirect object?

tchrist

Te lo diré en seguida.

bjb568

@Ixrec u wot?

tchrist

11:17 PM

There’s your indirect object.

bjb568

nonbitransiblaberwot?

tchrist

Yes, give is bitransitive.

So is tell.

Tell me a story.

Ixrec

yeah, those are the verbs I'm used to seeing indirect objects on

bjb568

@tchrist It was a dark and stormy night…

tchrist

You can use an indirect object whenever you what to indicate the interested/affected party.

bjb568

11:18 PM

3 men sat around a fire.

Ixrec

@tchrist okay, cool

bjb568

One of them, named tchrist, said, "Tell me a story.". And this is the story bjb told:

> It was a dark and stormy night…

Ixrec

@bjb568 a verb is intransitive, transitive or bitransitive based on how many "objects" it acts on; eg "I run" is intransitive, "I eat X" is transitive, and "I tell X that Y" is bitransitive

bjb568

> 3 men sat around a fire.

tchrist

No me queda nada de la ensalada, pues me la comieron.

Alexis King

11:19 PM

0

Q: Is an answer in another programming language if the question is specifically about a certain language a valid answer?

Recently, I came across this question asking about collecting a list into sublists in Scheme. The OP received a very comprehensive answer, which was accepted. However, another answer was posted in a completely different language, Java. In my opinion, this is completely ridiculous for a number of...

Ixrec

in Spanish there are separate pronouns for direct and indirect objects, which means you can often leave out the "that" between X and Y

tchrist

No salad left for me, as they eat it all up on me.

Ixrec

which I thought was one of the neatest things about the language

and that's about where my knowledge ends

tchrist

I could tell you a tale.

hichris123

cv-plz stackoverflow.com/questions/29528780/…

bjb568

11:20 PM

-3

Q: Burninate [element]

I hate elements. They make chemical things. Chemicals are bad. BURNINATE!

discussion burninate-request

hey, people really do hate fun.

tchrist

> Cuentan los hombres dignos de fe (pero Alá sabe más)
que en los primeros días hubo un rey de las islas
de Babilonia que congregó a sus arquitectos y magos
y les mandó construir un laberinto tan perplejo y
sutil que los varones más prudentes no se aventuraban
a entrar, y los que entraban se perdían. Esa obra
era un escándalo, porque la confusión y la maravilla
son operaciones propias de Dios y no de los hombres.
Con el andar del tiempo vino a su corte un rey de
los árabes, y el rey de Babilonia (para hacer burla

Enjoy!!

Ok, so they’re telling you the tale. Same diff.

@bjb568 It’s because you’re being flip, Wilson.

hichris123

@tchrist Are those supplemental mathematical symbols?

yellowantphil

count the men something of something something and... therefore he doesn't die?

tchrist

@hichris123 Some are, some aren’t. Would you like me to tell you?

bjb568

@tchrist edited

tchrist

11:23 PM

Thanks, Bill.

hichris123

@tchrist No, but you're forcing me to plug in my external hard drive.

tchrist

As you please.

U+0003D ‭ = BLK=Basic_Latin SC=Common EQUALS SIGN
U+00347 ‭ ○͇ BLK=Combining_Diacritical_Marks SC=Inherited COMBINING EQUALS SIGN BELOW
U+0034C ‭ ○͌ BLK=Combining_Diacritical_Marks SC=Inherited COMBINING ALMOST EQUAL TO ABOVE
U+01DFD ‭ ○᷽ BLK=Combining_Diacritical_Marks_Supplement SC=Inherited COMBINING ALMOST EQUAL TO BELOW
U+0207C ‭ ⁼ BLK=Superscripts_and_Subscripts SC=Common SUPERSCRIPT EQUALS SIGN
U+0208C ‭ ₌ BLK=Superscripts_and_Subscripts SC=Common SUBSCRIPT EQUALS SIGN

Thank goodness it autohides.

Please don’t use U+E003D: it’s strongly deprecated.

hichris123

Canary doesn't do much better... but what about with my patch?

tchrist

@yellowantphil Recount, not count.

Alexis King

cv-pls stackoverflow.com/q/29595851/465378 too broad or unclear

yellowantphil

11:26 PM

@tchrist I suspected that. I’d have to take a day to get through that whole thing though :-\

Ixrec

something about Babylonians constructing a labyrinth that none dared enter...and that's about where I stopped

hichris123

Quite a bit better, but still some boxes.

bjb568

I see no boxes over here.

yellowantphil

¡un rey de las islas de Babilonia! I can read that part

bjb568

Fix it.

Ixrec

11:27 PM

that makes it look like "@pizza" is a unicode character

hichris123

@bjb568 I am.

Unihedro

I can't decide which one I hate more - white, bright yellow, or light blue...

user259867

yellowantphil

@Ixrec 🍕

2

Ixrec

@yellowantphil 🍕

user259867

11:27 PM

If you use \therefore or \because, I hate you.

hichris123

Supplemental Arrows & Miscellaneous Mathematical Symbols hrm...

bjb568

@pizza Why?

tchrist

> As recounted by the worthy men of faith (but God knows more), in the
earliest days there was a king of the isles of Babylon who gathered
together his architects and mages and commanded them to build a
labyrinth so perplexing and subtle that the most prudent men would not
dare to enter it, and those who did enter would be lost. That work was a
scandal, for confusion and wonder are attributes peculiar to God, not to
men. Over time there came to his court a king of the Arabs, and the king
of Babylon (to make a fool of the simplicity of his guest) forced the

user259867

Because it's stupid. Use English instead.

bjb568

Ok, I do that.

Ixrec

11:28 PM

@pizza not when you're doing formal logic

I see no QED box there, that disappoints me

only a generic empty box

user259867

QED box is not a binary relation.

tchrist

@yellowantphil Done.

hichris123

yeah we render pretty much none of those.

tchrist

It’s Borges, of course.

hichris123

To icu-project.org/apiref/icu4c/uchar_8h.html I go.

terdon

11:30 PM

@tchrist I read one of the previous posts out of context so imagine my surprise when "me las come" was translated as eats for me as opposed to...

:P

AstroCB

!ping 🍕

xkcdBot

Prepare to be pinged, @🍕.

yellowantphil

@tchrist Thanks. I’ll compare those two texts when I have enough time. Won’t take a full day now

tchrist

@Ixrec Q⃞E⃞D⃞

Unihedro

@AstroCB

Does that ping? ^

@bjb568

bjb568

11:32 PM

Nope

Zero width space after @?

Unihedro

:D

yep

Ixrec

■ there we go

tchrist

@terdon Cállate chaval, que no te la coman. :)

Unihedro

Now we know, the more you know :p

yellowantphil

@tchrist there's a stray windows-1252 character in that English text. contamination!

or something weird happened when I copied it

terdon

11:34 PM

:)

AstroCB

@Unihedro No.

Unihedro

@AstroCB Thanks!

bjb568

somebody unbork this developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/API/Element/…

Unihedro

> There was a scripting error on this page. While it is being addressed by site editors, you can view partial content below.

haha

tchrist

@Ixrec Don’t think of there being "non-bitransitive verbs" when you have datives of interest. It is still the indirect object.

@yellowantphil I promise I emitted no Microsoft crap.

yellowantphil

11:36 PM

@tchrist hmm, I’ll see if I can find where my U+0092 came from...

AstroCB

Problem executing template APIRef:
    1 | <div>{{APIRef("DOM")}}</div><h2 name="Summary"><br></h2><h2 id="Summary" name="Summary">Summary</h2><p>Returns a non-live <a data-cke-saved-href="/en-US/docs/DOM/NodeList" href="/en-US/docs/DOM/NodeList" title="DOM/NodeList"><code>NodeList</code></a> of all elements descended from the element on which it is invoked that match the specified group of CSS selectors.</p><h2 id="Syntax" name="Syntax">Syntax</h2><pre class="syntaxbox"><em>elementList</em> = baseElement.querySelectorAll(<em>selectors</em>);

tchrist

@yellowantphil I beg your pardon? U+0092 is PRIVATE USE TWO from the C1 control set.

yellowantphil

it smells like an apostrophe from Windows-1252

tchrist

% byte2uni --enc cp1252 0x92
cp1252       92  ⇒  U+2019  ＜ ’ ＞  \N{RIGHT SINGLE QUOTATION MARK}

But 0x92 is not U+0092. U+0092 is PRIVATE USE TWO.

yellowantphil

ok, but why do I have a U+0092?

tchrist

11:39 PM

You don't!!!!!

yellowantphil

I don’t know if chromium is messing me up, and I don’t know how to wget this page

well I do, but it didn’t have that text in it

tchrist

U+0092 is "\xC2\x92" in UTF-8.

It is a control character.

If you are talking about a byte whose value is 0x92, that is not legal UTF-8, and it is not a Unicode code point. It is some legacy encoding.

AstroCB

status-indev

tchrist

cp1252 0x92 is U+2019.

yellowantphil

I have a U+0092

tchrist

11:41 PM

Bifmhzarre.

yellowantphil

as if windows-1252 got incorrectly converted to utf-8

tchrist

Rather.

yellowantphil

I'm not blaming you

but a U+0092 is staring me in the face

tchrist

professes innocence

yellowantphil

why can't I wget this page? I don't trust chromium

SmokeDetector

11:42 PM

[ SmokeDetector ] All-caps title: HOW CAN I HELP? by Andy Berlino on askubuntu.com

tchrist

@yellowantphil wget the logue

yellowantphil

I wgot (?) the permalink, and didn't see the text

AstroCB

@SmokeDetector By not posting all-caps titles and triggering Smokey.

yellowantphil

maybe it uses AJAX to fetch the rest of the text... it's below the expand button

tchrist

Sometimes I imagine that every third one of you is a girl.

user259867

11:43 PM

And by not posting too broad off-topic questions.

tchrist

I’m always wrong.

And the actual girls I always think are boys. Life is tough.

AstroCB

^ Out of context on the star board.

user259867

Blur - Girls And Boys

►

Unihedro

@tchrist Be gender-agnostic :p

It's of a very low chance that you'll meet anyone here irl anyway.

AstroCB

I wonder what you people look like in real life...

yellowantphil

11:46 PM

@tchrist OK, wget this: http://chat.meta.stackexchange.com/messages/89/3296353
look at the fourth from the last line, after “captive”

I look like a yellow ant

Unihedro

@AstroCB I can take a selfie right now and post it if you really want to know :P

tchrist

That sounds . . . indecent. :)

AstroCB

Let the mystery live on.

user259867

@Unihedro wait until Astro finishes his message-deleting userscript.

tchrist

@Unihedro Not completely.

Unihedro

11:47 PM

I'll wear a figurine head first, of course.

I'll never show my face :P

tchrist

There are distressingly many Google images of me at the top of the search.

yellowantphil

you're famous

hichris123

@tchrist And a bio.

tchrist

Does it say “Like your maid, I don’t do Windows”?

hichris123

@tchrist See for yourself - play.google.com/store/books/details?id=IzdJIax6J5oC "About the Authors"

AstroCB

11:50 PM

tchrist

@hichris123 Please don’t post The Oatmeal. :)

hichris123

@tchrist hrm?

tchrist

lalalala

AstroCB

I wont downrate because you are new, but this doesn't even remotely answer my question. I can read documentation, and your command is missing a lot, like the instance name. I should note to be fair though, that this is part of an installer so the instance name is pretty critical. — JABFreeware Apr 6 at 9:49

Roombatron5000

can i vote for bjb yet?

bjb568

11:52 PM

@Roombatron5000 not quite

@AstroCB downrates

hichris123

You know someone's made it when their SE username is on their Wikipedia page. glances at @tchrist

tchrist

I hope you know I have utterly zero to do with that ugly page.

yellowantphil

how bout them renegade control characters in running text 😒 chat.meta.stackexchange.com/messages/89/3296353

AstroCB

hichris123

You're Mr. Sunshine today, aren't you, @tchrist?

tchrist

11:55 PM

@yellowantphil What the hell?!

> Then he untied his captive\N{RIGHT SINGLE QUOTATION MARK}\N{PRIVATE USE TWO}s
bindings and abandoned him in the middle of the desert, where the King
of Babylon died of hunger and of thirst. Glory be with That which does

yellowantphil

blame stack exchange? I don’t know

tchrist

blames SE

AstroCB

@tchrist I wasn't aware that you're a "racing driver"

yellowantphil

!!/blame

SmokeDetector

@yellowantphil It's yellowantphil's fault.

yellowantphil

11:56 PM