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Anna Lear

20:00

@Bart ಠ_ಠ

Bart

....

Johannes Kuhn

@CodeMaverick Done. Can you do me a favor? stackoverflow.com/a/20601777/845414

Bart

What is this? International "upvote my post" day?

Code Maverick

@JohannesKuhn I would, however, my daily vote limit isn't reset for another 3 hours

JoshC

@Bart International star my message day

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Code Maverick

20:03

@Bart No silly! It's International Get Hats Day!

Johannes Kuhn

Maybe later then :P

Code Maverick

@JohannesKuhn sure

jadarnel27

Yikes. Yay, webforms! Who new there was a limit to the number of form fields you can submit at once to asp.net?

Johannes Kuhn

200 fields? you are doing something wrong...

jadarnel27

Haha, read the answer =)

Johannes Kuhn

20:06

"No problems with 1500 form fields". What happened to KISS?

JoshC

By the way, those of you trying to get upvotes on self answered posts.. "ask and answer your own question, each with a score of 1 or more" The question needs an upvote too.

Code Maverick

It's that last "S" that always gets you

Undo the Snowman

@AnnaLear Yeah, I don't plan to. And I've done the thing where you run a common phrase through GT enough times and it becomes something completely different.

Code Maverick

@JoshC - I tried that too, but maybe you have to ask the question as well during WinterBash

Johannes Kuhn

@JoshC the question needs a score of 1 or 1 upvote? (the question has 1 up and 1 downvote)

Undo the Snowman

20:07

Where's the question?

prepares upvote gizmo

JoshC

I don't know. I just copy/pasted the description.

Pretty sure score means a "net" score. So it would need +2 if it has a downvote.

Martijn Pieters

peekaboo

Undo the Snowman

Oy @MartijnPieters

You have the perfect avatar for hats.

JoshC

So.. does anyone know how to get Eureka?

Undo the Snowman

@JoshC Yes.

Martijn Pieters

20:09

It's to do with Meta.

jadarnel27

That form field question should probably be closed at too broad or primarily opinion based. But I really like that answer, if for no other reason than it taught me something new.

Undo the Snowman

@MartijnPieters Not... really.

Code Maverick

I've been trying to figure out Eureka as well ... can't find anyone that has it that knows what they did, lol

Undo the Snowman

I know what I did.

Lol

JoshC

Are you going to tell us? xD

Undo the Snowman

20:10

No.

Code Maverick

^^^ booo

Undo the Snowman

That would ruin the fun

JoshC

Hints?

Martijn Pieters

I gave two suggestions to Shog

and he confirmed I got it right.

Undo the Snowman

@JoshC Hints?

Hmm...

It's a hard thing to hint.

Martijn Pieters

20:10

However, that makes two options and I don't know which one. :-P

Undo the Snowman

Hehe. I must be the only one that actually knows.

Code Maverick

Does it really have to do with meta at all?

or chat?

Undo the Snowman

@CodeMaverick Eh, not really.

Martijn Pieters

@UndotheSnowman Is this post related?

If not, then it was the other option I picked..

Undo the Snowman

@MartijnPieters Not beyond the common denominator of hats.

Martijn Pieters

20:12

And the riddles of hats..

Undo the Snowman

This hat kinda has a circular reference. To get it, you have to know how to get it

And with that, I'm done talking.

Martijn Pieters

Oh, I got it! ;-D

Code Maverick

... so YELLING + upvoting isn't the trick?

Martijn Pieters

But then again, I did get it.

Code Maverick

so what did you do? =D

Undo the Snowman

20:13

@CodeMaverick No.

Martijn Pieters

@CodeMaverick Er, no.

Once you get it, you do get it.

JoshC

But to get it, you need to know how to get it.

Undo the Snowman

To figure the hat out, you must figure the hat out.

jadarnel27

I've got it!

JoshC

Eureka!

Undo the Snowman

20:14

hehehe

Code Maverick

Eureka!

?

jadarnel27

I totally figured out how to get the Eureka hat.

Code Maverick

lol

Undo the Snowman

Erhm, no.

Code Maverick

lol this is so confusing

i'm brain teasered out

jadarnel27

20:15

You have to run naked through the streets of some city in Europe.

BRB

Bart

You got it quite recently @MartijnPieters?

Martijn Pieters

I got it yesterday.

Undo the Snowman

@MartijnPieters Isn't it fun to watch people run around mindlessly trying to find a hat?

@Bart You don't have it yet?

Code Maverick

lol

Undo the Snowman

Ya know what, I'm going to don that hat right now.

Code Maverick

20:16

^^^ jelly

Martijn Pieters

@UndotheSnowman I am doing it myself too.

Johannes Kuhn

I got the Eureka hat.

Bart

Hmm, then my hunch is wrong @MartijnPieters. Dangit

Martijn Pieters

I am still trying to unlock the Cool hat.

Bart

No @UndotheSnowman

Undo the Snowman

20:17

@Bart Remember when you wouldn't tell me how to get the Unicorn hat?

All actions have consequences :D

JoshC

I don't know how to get that either..

Bart

I would love to tell you how to get it @UndotheSnowman

Undo the Snowman

Frankly, I don't know how to get the unicorn hat.

@Bart Too late, I have the hat.

Bart

But do you know how you got it?

Code Maverick

I know how to get the unicorn hat

Undo the Snowman

20:18

@Bart Which one?

Bart

Unicorn

Undo the Snowman

@Bart No.

JoshC

@CodeMaverick How?

Undo the Snowman

I got it on SO, actually.

bluefeet

@UndotheSnowman really?

Undo the Snowman

20:18

@bluefeet No idea.

Code Maverick

let's swap hat for hat =D

Undo the Snowman

@CodeMaverick Heh.

Bart

Yep, but it's not for something you did on SO apparently @UndotheSnowman

Undo the Snowman

@Bart Oh, ok.

Code Maverick

It has to do with commenting

Undo the Snowman

20:19

That makes it a bit easier to guess.

I think I know.

Code Maverick

It's called "I See Your Point"

hellurrrr

Undo the Snowman

Hah!

Martijn Pieters

You get the Unicorn hat for useless internet points.

Bart

Plenty of those to go around on this network though @MartijnPieters

Martijn Pieters

There are points, and then there are Unicorn points, to be earned.

Code Maverick

20:20

now ... hook a brotha up with the Eureka! deets!

Undo the Snowman

@MartijnPieters Upvotes on second-class citizens, right?

(or third, I can't remember)

Doorknob of Snow

When you think about it, I see your point makes sense

Code Maverick

it does

Doorknob of Snow

where on SE does everyone talk about unicorns?

:D

Undo the Snowman

@DoorknobofSnow Meta.

(mSO)

JoshC

20:21

Eureka Hat: Attempt to vote on your own post.

Undo the Snowman

@JoshC Almost certainly not.

Doorknob of Snow

Also, speculation for Chuck Yeager: maybe it has to do with answering, the OP commenting on your answer, and you responding very quickly

Undo the Snowman

@DoorknobofSnow Hmm... maybe!

Doorknob of Snow

@JoshC no, I'm wearing Eureka and I know that's not it :P

(all credit to Doorhandle, who I was chatting with on IRC and brought it up)

Undo the Snowman

Who here doesn't have Chuck Yaeger?

Code Maverick

20:22

@DoorknobofSnow - How did you get it?

I have it

Doorknob of Snow

@CodeMaverick it's very meta

Code Maverick

Although it would've been cooler if it was actually Maverick's helmet, then my avatar would be complete =D

Undo the Snowman

Oy @Doorhandle, such a timely entrance.

Doorknob of Snow

< 20 rep he has :(

Martijn Pieters

@JoshC Nope, I didn't do that yet got the hat.

Undo the Snowman

20:23

@DoorknobofSnow ;(

3ventic

I'm pretty sure I know how to get Eureka, but haven't had a chance to try yet

Code Maverick

I do nothing on meta

Undo the Snowman

@3ventic Try it.

Code Maverick

everytime i've tried i get elitist'd down

Doorknob of Snow

@Doorhandle says hi to all of you :P

Code Maverick

20:23

lol

Undo the Snowman

@DoorknobofSnow lol

JoshC

I'm going to try closing my own question. Let's see if that earns me a hat.

Martijn Pieters

@JoshC Nope, won't work.

Doorknob of Snow

@JoshC you can close your own question. I have when I knew it was a dup :P

Bart

I'm going to have my own account deleted. Let's see what hat that gets me.

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Code Maverick

20:24

lol

Undo the Snowman

Heh

rofl

Doorknob of Snow

@Bart brilliant idea!

I'm going to try it too

Code Maverick

So what was the hint for Eureka other than very meta?

Undo the Snowman

@CodeMaverick You have to know how to get it to get it.

Bart

Think "baths" @CodeMaverick ....

3ventic

20:25

I got the hat for closing my own question on MSO

Undo the Snowman

@3ventic Which hat?

Doorknob of Snow

@CodeMaverick It has something to do with knowledge.

3ventic

Passed Judgement

Undo the Snowman

@3ventic Oh.

3ventic

I already had it from Arqade though

Undo the Snowman

20:26

@Bart you are despicable.

Leading the poor little lightbulbless people astray

Code Maverick

Soo running in circles

Doorknob of Snow

@UndotheSnowman No, it's actually a very clever hint :P

Undo the Snowman

Baths... fries brain trying to decipher hint

Doorknob of Snow

How does the word "Eureka" and "bath" connect?

Undo the Snowman

@DoorknobofSnow At Archimeedieeees.

Doorknob of Snow

20:27

yay :D

Undo the Snowman

(I never learned how to spell that name)

3ventic

Eureka is a light bulb and light bulbs don't like taking baths?

JoshC

Are you suppose to read the help section to get Eureka?

Undo the Snowman

@JoshC No comment.

3ventic

It's a seeekret

Doorknob of Snow

20:28

@JoshC no, it's about knowing stuff, not finding out stuff

3ventic

Right?

Undo the Snowman

(watches @JoshC run off to read what he should read anyway)

Doorknob of Snow

so tempting to just give it away :P

Undo the Snowman

@DoorknobofSnow If you do, I will shogsnipe you.

3ventic

Secrets are always tempting to give away

Undo the Snowman

20:29

@DoorknobofSnow You and me could rule to world of lightbulb hats!

JoshC

@DoorknobofSnow You know you can give it away

Code Maverick

^^^

Undo the Snowman

@JoshC Of course he could, but then I would try to do something bad to him.

I would... umm...

Doorknob of Snow

The battle of Undo vs Josh... who can convince Doorknob to do what they want? :P

Undo the Snowman

Hmm...

Doorknob of Snow

20:30

@UndotheSnowman lock me? NOOOOOO!

Undo the Snowman

@DoorknobofSnow I have four times more meta repz. Therefore you should listen to me.

Doorknob of Snow

11725 * 4 == 12834??? :P

Bart

@UndotheSnowman that is actually kind of a perfect indicator that you should be ignored. ;)

Undo the Snowman

@Bart Well... yeah.

But you're supposed to trust me, dangit!

Bart

(Says me with over 3 times more meta rep than you)

Undo the Snowman

20:32

@DoorknobofSnow 3000 * 4 = 12000

Doorknob of Snow

lol

@UndotheSnowman I have 11.7k meta rep, not 3k :P

JoshC

I have 3k

Undo the Snowman

@DoorknobofSnow I'm talking about Josh

Doorknob of Snow

oh ok :P

JoshC

-.-

Code Maverick

20:32

I mean shouting Eureka! means you've discovered something ...

Undo the Snowman

Rep is a "rough measure of how much the community trusts you". Therefore, you should trust me four times more.

Doorknob of Snow

^ getting closer... :D

Undo the Snowman

Plus, I can vote to delete your horribly downvoted closed questions! :P

JoshC

@UndotheSnowman Well I have 2x more rep on SO

Undo the Snowman

@JoshC SO doesn't count.

You actually have to know stuff to get SO rep

Doorknob of Snow

20:33

haha

JoshC

Exactly

Code Maverick

^^^

Bart

Oh man, dangit. Eureka actually is pretty simple.

Code Maverick

... so what is there to discover ...

Undo the Snowman

To get mSO rep, you have to be skilled in agreeing with the voters and disagreeing with the new people. Kinda like a politician.

Tim Stone

20:34

@Bart Do you feel...Well, you know.

Doorknob of Snow

yes, once you figure it out (hint hint) it's so obvious

Johannes Kuhn

I'll figure it out.

JoshC

still nothing

Johannes Kuhn

Sooner or later.

Undo the Snowman

@JohannesKuhn I'll give you a hint: The hat isn't automatic.

It takes time.

(and thought)

Doorknob of Snow

20:35

so I'm pretty sure I know how I got all my sekrit hats, except Chuck Yeager... anyone figured that one out? :P

(hint hint hint)

JoshC

Spend your entire day on Meta.

Undo the Snowman

@DoorknobofSnow No.

Code Maverick

tried ... winterbash2013.stackexchange.com/eureka ... that didn't work

Doorknob of Snow

@CodeMaverick remember my first hint: it's very meta. (not the site, the meaning of the word.)

Undo the Snowman

tries to push down knowledge that I'm not supposed to have

3ventic

20:36

I figured out Chuck Yeager pretty quickly..

Doorknob of Snow

@3ventic I know it's something to do with fast things, and something to do with commenting, I believe...

Code Maverick

meta is simply data that refers to itself

Undo the Snowman

@CodeMaverick Yes.

Doorknob of Snow

the key part is having to do with itself... or its kind...

JoshC

Conduct a search query in the data explorer..?

3ventic

20:38

I don't think data explorer has hats

Johannes Kuhn

@Doorknob Answering.

JoshC

Or does it?

Doorknob of Snow

@JohannesKuhn huh? What is that a response to :P

Johannes Kuhn

@DoorknobofSnow To this.

Doorknob of Snow

oh ok

wait but:

For some reason I think commenting here will get me a hat. I hope I'm right. — Santa Claus Dec 16 at 4:06

Well, that is part of getting Chuck Yeager, but there's a bit more to it. — Tiny Tim 2 days ago

Bart

20:40

@TimStone it's not what you were going for .... but "stupid" might best describe the actual feeling.

JoshC

Favorite a question....?

Johannes Kuhn

Mhh, I gained it on SO and Meta.SO and I believe I know for what.

3ventic

I know exactly which actions got me Chuck Yeager

Shog9

Next year, we're gonna have to do a better job of leaving intentionally misleading comments in the discussions surrounding secret hats.

5

Undo the Snowman

ignores shog's misleading comment

Bart

20:41

Oooh, ooh, @Shog9 ooh, can I have that job?!?

Undo the Snowman

I want that job too!

Code Maverick

... but we're just sheep that are to be lead

Undo the Snowman

I work cheap.

And I would even work remotely!

JoshC

I can't even get the secret hats without misleading comments..

Undo the Snowman

As long as you tell me what the hat reasons are before hand.

Bart

20:42

You don't even need to tell me what those hats are about. I'm so good at misleading that I confuse myself

Undo the Snowman

@Bart I would pay them to give me a job!

(let the inane bidding begin)

Gah.

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A: How did this answer manage to garner 50 incorrect "not an answer" flags in less than an hour?

You are correct. The formatting threw me off. FWIW, it ended up in the flag queue.

^ This post is in the queue again.

With an NAA on it.

Ooh someone deemed it invalid

Code Maverick

@JoshC - You figure out Eureka! yet?

JoshC

That was probably someone trying to get a hat.

@CodeMaverick Nope - i'll tell you when I do

Undo the Snowman

@JoshC The 'invalid flag' hat?

Code Maverick

LoL ...

JoshC

20:44

@CodeMaverick In other words, I'll never tell you

Code Maverick

Same

Undo the Snowman

I will tell you how to get the hat on January 3rd.

JoshC

Thanks.

>.>

ElfSlice

Doge hat is the only hat for me

Undo the Snowman

I need to hit 10k on SO.

JoshC

20:46

It's not that hard

Undo the Snowman

@JoshC When you only know about iOS and objective-c it is.

Johannes Kuhn

I'll figure Eureka out.

JoshC

I got 10k answering CSS questions..

hichris123

@Undo Learn java.

Undo the Snowman

@JoshC In how long?

@hichris123 Not a bad idea.

Johannes Kuhn

20:47

Learn regex

Undo the Snowman

And HTML?

3ventic

I want to replace my 3 with a light bulb

Bart

cough jQuery cough

JoshC

@UndotheSnowman I joined 4 months ago.. So within that amount of time.

HTML/CSS/JS

Undo the Snowman

@JoshC Wow.

JoshC

20:48

pretty easy.

Undo the Snowman

Just wow.

You are amazing.

JoshC

Fastest guns

3ventic

Parse HTML with regex

Bart

See, my answering strategy is completely wrong

Code Maverick

Mine is too ... I get a complete answer all decked out and by that time, there are 10 answers, yet mine looks the nicest

Bart

20:50

"Ooh, I know that. Terrible title though. Let's edit that. Ah, and fix the posts. Great, remove that tag, add that one. Good, let's answ....ah, 5 answers"

Undo the Snowman

Sometimes I'll wander over to SO and see something really easy that I can FGITW.

Code Maverick

Could someone upvote this to see if my theory is correct on a hat? stackoverflow.com/a/20690557/682480

Pops

@Shog9 Or just come up with wackier hats in the first place.

Like the Abby T. Milliner.

Abby T. Miller

i resemble that remark!

Pops

You sure do!

Abby T. Miller

20:53

@Pops there was one named after me last year, but i didn't pick it

Pops

Yeah, I remember talking to you about that when we were discussing this year's hat triggers.

Undo the Snowman

It's a trick!

Don't listen to them!

Abby T. Miller

@Pops it was one of the ones where the trigger made NO SENSE w/r/t the hat

3ventic

I know how to get it now

Code Maverick

how

3ventic

20:55

seekret

20 mins ago, by Undo the Snowman

@JohannesKuhn I'll give you a hint: The hat isn't automatic.

That's a pretty good hint tbh

Code Maverick

Are we talking Chuck Yeager or Eureka!?

3ventic

Eureka of course

Chuck Yeager's easy

Code Maverick

the opposite of automatic is manual

so you have to do something

3ventic

Well, yeah

but now you're just thinking inside the box

Code Maverick

or do you mean automatic with respect to time

... and thinking inside the box goes against the definition of what a Maverick is ... so I should be ashamed

3ventic

20:59

I don't know what a Maverick is

other than the name of a helicopter in GTA

Bart

A Maverick is not a Goose

Code Maverick

Look at my profile and you can read the definition

Tim

21:12

Doesn't anyone remember the 2008 election? John McCain is a Maverick

jadarnel27

Oh crap, a generic Tim.

Run, @Tim! Run while you still can!

Tim

I am the Tim

the others are fakes

Tim Stone

D:

Code Maverick

How'd you like my song? meta.stackoverflow.com/a/212483/159514

Tim

very... topical

Bart

21:16

"We tested our Stone Tim against an unnamed generic Tim. Tests have show that .... "

yesterday, by Bart

Anything that starts with "To the tune of.." deserves unimaginably cruel punishment anyway.

^^^^ @CodeMaverick

jadarnel27

It's because of all the prepositions.

Code Maverick

it doesn't deserve punishment ... it's awesome!

Weird Al made a career doing that

lol

Bart

He's on my list ....

Tim

I don't remember his album about stack overflow hats

Code Maverick

He should have made one

Pops

21:22

Weird Al has a good ear for meter.

Yep, I'm still complaining about that.

Tim Stone

whistles innocently

Code Maverick

Soooo ... Eureka! hat ... does it have to do with a meta discussion?

hichris123

@CodeMaverick Someone will correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe it has to do with a feature request.

Tim

To get it all you have to do is jump out of your bathtub and run naked through the streets... trust me.

Code Maverick

I get the Archimedes reference ... but for whatever reason, I think all that will get me is arrested

... or does that mean we need to remove profile picture and info and hats ... as a symbol of being naked?

Shog9

21:31

@CodeMaverick yes

On a completely unrelated note, I love phrases like "to do with" - they're just so versatile!

hichris123

@Shog9 How do people not think you're really weird? Well, how did you even get elected a mod? :)

Or did you not get elected at first?

Shog9

@hichris123 I was soundly beaten and then given a diamond anyway.

Bart

"How do people not think you're really weird?" ... don't they?

hichris123

@Bart I don't see it said much. Maybe it's just whispered.

3ventic

Everyone's weird

or maybe it's just me

Tim Stone

21:36

datacenterrapbattle.com ...wat

RyanCarlson

@3ventic It's not just you.

Everyone is weird.

Shog9

Ryan and 3ventic are pretty weird.

3ventic

Happens

RyanCarlson

@Shog9 I'm very weird

Doorknob of Snow

I'm weirder

I mean, I'm a doorknob

hichris123

21:41

And you have snow on yourself.

Tim

is this a weird-off now?

RyanCarlson

@DoorknobofSnow I'm afraid I'm even weirder than you.

Doorknob of Snow

@RyanCarlson Noooooo! This cannot be!

RyanCarlson

@Tim Apparently

Tim

I have no idea why I am even in here

Doorknob of Snow

21:48

I like waffles

RyanCarlson

@DoorknobofSnow Have you ever had a conversation about the effectiveness of silverware on force fields?

Bart

I see you're new here @Tim

Tim Stone

I have no idea what you're talking about.

Doorknob of Snow

@RyanCarlson What? Who uses silverware for forcefields? Everyone knows potatoes work better...

RyanCarlson

@DoorknobofSnow Nonono. Silverware is far superior.

Especially forks

Bart

21:49

Not you Tim. I meant Tim. Not Tim either. Nor Josh, Josh or Joshua....

RyanCarlson

knives and spoons are fairly effective, but forks are the best.

Doorknob of Snow

@RyanCarlson Wait, I thought forks were for writing with. The knives work mildly well on forcefields, but potatoes (especially rotten) are good at warping them with their legs.

ben is uǝq backwards

Funny you should say that @Ryan: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spoon_bending

Undo the Snowman

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Q: Don't autoflag answers on [community-ads] posts in the 10k queue

This answer just showed up in the 10k queue with an automatic quality score flag. Of course it has a low quality score - the rules pretty much say that they have to be low quality. Can we at least tone down Community's inspection of answers to questions tagged community-ads?

RyanCarlson

@benisuǝqbackwards XD

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