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Dan Grossman

5:00 AM

Yi Jiang

Hahaha

Dan Grossman

that's a big shirt

that room looks familiar

Yi Jiang

> In our first meeting with Brandon Watson and members of the Windows Phone 7 team about homebrew on the WP7 platform on-campus at Redmond, we received a “I was the first to jailbreak Windows Phone 7, and all I got was this lousy t-shirt.” Our meeting is now complete. Just kidding.

Dan Grossman

woo, new Portal 2 video

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> Valve says there are 13,000 lines of dialog in the game

Michael Petrotta

@Dan: "that room looks familiar"
I had the same thought.
Think that's the standard "large corporation" look?

Dan Grossman

5:10 AM

I think it's the standard Microsoft conference room, of which probably over 100 exist :/

Michael Petrotta

unless we work for the same large corp

nope. Another large corp.

Dan Grossman

I could go through my photos from when I worked there to see if the rooms all looked like that, but they're on a drive in a box somewhere, in an encrypted file system on a hidden encrypted partition...

too much effort

maybe I have some public ones on flickr...

different color panels on the trash/recycle bins under the counter... hmm

Michael Petrotta

We don't have foliage that nice outside our windows.

Dan Grossman

this picture was taken through my office window

I could use some of that summer weather right now

hehe, steve.

Michael Petrotta

PONY RIDES?!?

Dan Grossman

5:21 AM

Michael Petrotta

ok, stop that. too beautiful to take.

Dan Grossman

looks at the snow outside

one last photo

Reno

im so jealous &_&

Tim Stone

Yeah, I wish we had those kinds of company perks, heh.

Dan Grossman

what is that giant windows logo made out of?

Tim Stone

5:25 AM

Cupcakes

Dan Grossman

oh, yum

Yi Jiang

"Wait for it" Ha!

Reno

i work for a giant corp, but they never do this -_-

Dan Grossman

I got to attend one company meeting, which at a company of 90k employees is always a big deal

it was at some sports stadium

steve ballmer shouted and danced like the monkey clips

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Reno

oh yeah he sweats like a pig too, ive seen some of them

Dan Grossman

5:29 AM

he's awesome lol

"WHO SAID SIT DOWN?"

Reno

i wish SO badges were like this

gizmodo.com/5727988/time-to-collect-all-nerd-merit-badges

Dan Grossman

I'd spend a lot more time on the site if I got real badges like that

employers could start asking you to bring your SO patches to interviews

drachenstern

But would you pay for such a site?

Dan Grossman

There would be some models under which I would pay

I used to pay monthly for StartupSchwag.com to send me t-shirts and stickers with website names on them, after all

Reno

nice site, but why is a fat guy wearing those tee shirts :s

Dan Grossman

5:36 AM

lol

I don't know, they've already shut down the service and are just selling extras they printed

Reno

bustedtees.com must have ruined their business

Dan Grossman

Michael Petrotta

"If you close this question, you need to close these other questions!". This pushes my buttons. There must be a name for this logical fallacy.

Yi Jiang

@MichaelPetrotta Hasty generalization?

Michael Petrotta

@YiJiang: not quite right...

drachenstern

5:42 AM

Benjol

morning all, problems with stackexchange, or is it just me?

Reno

actually knowledge is just information, wisdom is knowledge .. .that like .. works

Michael Petrotta

"problems".Expand()

Tim Stone

@Benjol Yes. Let's blame @Zypher

Benjol

Oh, no, I've looked again. Let's blame SmartFilter :(

drachenstern

5:44 AM

@Benjol not I ... nm

Benjol

ExpletiveDeleted

"Your request was categorized by SmartFilter as 'Technical Information'."

Michael Petrotta

I like @drachenstern's poster better. The more you know...

Benjol

well, yes, we certainly want to block that in an engineering company :)

Yi Jiang

@MichaelPetrotta False dilemma could also be; you're suggesting that it's either don't close this question, or close every single one of the other questions plus this one

Dan Grossman

"Technical Information" is filtered?

What, then, isn't filtered?

Benjol

5:45 AM

@Dan, this, apparently!

Michael Petrotta

@YiJiang: ooh, that sounds right.

Tim Stone

@Benjol Oh, well, I'm getting timeouts for some of the sites right now too.

Dan Grossman

Well, I better write your IT department to let them know you might obtain technical information here.

Tim Stone

@Benjol No information for you!

Benjol

@Dan, wow, how'd you do that?

oh, I see :)

Reno

5:47 AM

@Benjol you are in Seoul ?

drachenstern

@MichaelPetrotta I like this poster better tho ;)

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Benjol

@Reno, look at the url of the image. He had me for a minute there :)

Yi Jiang

Anyway, if anyone is interested, Wikipedia has a list

Informal fallacy

An informal fallacy is an argument whose stated premises fail to support their proposed conclusion. The deviation in an informal fallacy often stems from a flaw in the path of reasoning that links the premises to the conclusion. In contrast to a formal fallacy, the error has to do with issues of ratiocination manifest in language used to state the propositions; the range of elements that can be symbolized by language is broader than that which the symbolism of formal logic can represent. Deductive and inductive informal fallacies Informal fallacies of deductive reasoning contain a fundam...

Dan Grossman

@Benjol What's significant about the URL?

George Marian

Wait, wait...WTF? SourceForge supports OpenID, but wants me to set a password for my account?

Benjol

5:48 AM

@Dan, it's not imgur

Dan Grossman

oh

drachenstern

@DanGrossman that it's not an uploaded image of course

Dan Grossman

drachenstern

@MichaelPetrotta did I do that too fast for you?

Reno

oh lol

Michael Petrotta

5:49 AM

@YiJiang: sounds like a fancy name for "bad argument".

@drachenstern: yep, missed it

drachenstern

@MichaelPetrotta see :456031

George Marian

@DanGrossman Mmmm...cable monsters.

drachenstern

@DanGrossman that yellow is a mess

Reno

noodles yum

Yi Jiang

@drachenstern The yellow cable image is used for SF's 404 image

drachenstern

5:50 AM

@YiJiang I can see why they would choose that :p

Yi Jiang

Together with a link to sysadminday.com/horrors.html

Michael Petrotta

@drachenstern: still comes up as deleted at that message ID, unless I'm missing something.

Reno

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Benjol

Anyway, today was the day I swore I was going to get some work done, so maybe SE being blocked is a good thing. Just out of curiosity, can someone tell me what/who the last @Benjol here says?

Michael Petrotta

@drachenstern: bummer.

drachenstern

5:52 AM

@YiJiang oy, that's rough

@MichaelPetrotta check the pen

@Reno lol wtf

Dan Grossman

@Benjol: interesting. I actually meant that the downvoter can get his -1 rep back, so there's no point in not downvoting, but yeah, you're right: the downvoted person can reclaim his rep, too, so there's no point in not not downvoting... Hmm. – RegDwight 8 hours ago

George Marian

Hmmm...SourceForge fail?

> Please enter the correct information in the highlighted fields: Invalid Unix Name.

Michael Petrotta

@drachenstern: Ah. Not my type, but thanks.

drachenstern

@MichaelPetrotta lol, I rather meant better than the other poster ;)

Benjol

@Dan, thanks. Ok, I'm gonna be 'good' today. Bye. Forces self to hit close

George Marian

5:53 AM

But, nothing is highlighted and my username should be valid. =/

drachenstern

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Q: jQuery: "Doesn't have" selector?

I see this has selector, where's the hasnt selector? I want to find tables that don't contain images.

jquery

at first blush that seems so easy to answer

upon reconsideration I am scratching my head ... there's a double list, removing has from the list of potentials

not doesn't really work

ok, since four people immediately tackled it with not, does that mean my first blush observation was wrong?

or is my gut correct and "not" doesn't quite work here?

Yi Jiang

@drachenstern table:not(:has(img)) should work

drachenstern

but not only matches sibling selectors right?

Yi Jiang

I think, never tried it before, hmmm

drachenstern

not descendants like has does?

$(parent).has(children) versus $(parent).not(parent-exclusion) is how I read the api

Yi Jiang

6:00 AM

$('.question-summary:not(:contains("discussion"))') works on the MSO homepage, so :has in the :not pseudo-selector should also work

Tim Stone

Aye, I'd think so to.

drachenstern

@YiJiang ah, but you nested a contains within

contains does descendants right?

Yi Jiang

@drachenstern :contains searches the text content, not child nodes - :has does that. I was just using it as an example of how this might work

drachenstern

oh ok

Tim Stone

jsfiddle.net/vb2BZ/1

drachenstern

6:09 AM

cool

farm5.static.flickr.com/4059/4459593318_12a4e0d364_z.jpg?zz=1

Moshe

Wow. Just spent two hours porting JS to Objecive-C.

Tim Stone

O_o

drachenstern

Why would you do that?

George Marian

@Moshe WTF?

Moshe

Well, @drachenstern, Do you know about Parshiyos?

drachenstern

6:12 AM

no

Reno

Steve Jobs

@ceoSteveJobs, Apple

More than meets the i. As you should expect from a parody account.

738 tweets, 402k followers, following 50 users

great tweets

Moshe

Basically, in synagogue, we read a portion of the Bible.

That is called the Parsha.

drachenstern

And what does that have to do with porting JS to ObjC?

Moshe

There are a number of "types" of jewsih years.

Yi Jiang

  `/profile <site> <name>` - searches the `<site>` for users with display name
  matching `<name>`. `<site>` will go through common abbreviations like MSO, AU
  and 8bitlavapwnpwniesbossstagesixforhelp before defaulting to `<site>.stackexchange.com`

Moshe

6:14 AM

And the schedule of the reading varies as such.

George Marian

And, here I thought I was loquacious.

Moshe

A friend wrote a library in JS to determine the current weekly portion and I need that information. So, I worked on it with him. There were some complicated if statements.

Yi Jiang

8bitlavapwnpwniesbossstagesixforhelp is an abbreviations for Gaming, of course

Moshe

Its not done yet.

George Marian

@Moshe Talk about burying the lead. :P

Moshe

6:16 AM

But it's a bunch of calendar calculations and such that need to be potted.

George Marian

Seems like someone got "potted" alright... ;)

Moshe

@George - I tackled the most complicated part.

George Marian

@Moshe Sometimes that's best done by starting w/ the simple stuff. :)

Moshe

@George - we are going in order of the code. But that's certainly true.

Hopefully I'll be done soon.

George Marian

Heh.

Spoken like a true developer.

Moshe

6:18 AM

Okay, time to call it a night.

likes my new iPhone 4

George Marian

@Moshe My point is that this could have been the first message (with some modification) and the rest could hae explained all that.

@Moshe G'night, man.

Moshe

Thanks.

George Marian

@Moshe I dunno. I'm seriously considering an Android phone next.

Reno

i own an iPhone but i work on the android OS

(is not saying that iPhone > android )

George Marian

I'm tired of the battery issues, for one. Don't most Android phones have user replaceable batteries?

Reno

6:27 AM

yeah battery is a huge problem ... i have a spare phone that i use for travel

Yi Jiang

* `/me <message>` - wraps the `<message>` in a pair of `*` to italicise it in a
  lame attempt at emulating IRC `/me`

Reno

the iPhone lasts for a day ... 2 at the most

Yi Jiang

I suspect rchern won't be happy with me saying this

George Marian

I've been quite careful about managing my battery, and I still have issues. =/

Reno

People often say that Apple overcharges, so from now on all products will ship with only 23% battery life.

Tweeted by ceoSteveJobs on January 16, 2011 at 9:22 PM

George Marian

6:29 AM

lol

Dan Grossman

@GeorgeMarian ^ My Android phone with back cover popped off, simple as can be

Reno

looks sexy under the hood

Dan Grossman

and apparently in the dark with camera flash, you can see every speck of dust

George Marian

I don't understand why Apple couldn't have come up with a workable solution. Other than the fact that usability isn't their first priority. :)

Yi Jiang

I don't know why people might want to drink Snapple :| it doesn't really taste that good and is even more expensive than other brands of imported 100% natural fruit juice

drachenstern

6:32 AM

I don't know why people use Prototype.js, jQuery does everything I need it to do

George Marian

@YiJiang I love their peach ice tea, otherwise I agree.

Dan Grossman

that is peach iced tea

Reno

Either apple wants everyone to be great hackers and find workarounds or they want the users to be really really dumb as fuck

Yi Jiang

@GeorgeMarian Will give that flavor a try the next time I see it in the supermarket then

drachenstern

I don't know why people quit using MySpace, Facebook doesn't even let you customize your page layout!

Dan Grossman

6:33 AM

Yi Jiang

@DanGrossman Hello Mr. Blurrycam!

drachenstern

Hey it takes whole seconds of practice to get pictures that blurry!

George Marian

Well, I'm off to bed. I have a bunch of stuff to do tomorrow.

g'night everyone

Dan Grossman

drachenstern

gnight

Reno

6:34 AM

night'

Dan Grossman

g'night

drachenstern

I should've headed that way a half hour or more ago

Tyler Chacha

Can we add an H to Snapple?

Shnapple?

almost needs a c

Schnapple

Yi Jiang

Diet Snapple? :|

Dan Grossman

snapple iced tea + peach schnapps = shnapple?

Yi Jiang

6:35 AM

@TylerChacha That would be the German version

Tyler Chacha

No, I just want a new word..

Schnapple..

Dan Grossman

@YiJiang Just means they add aspartame instead of sugar to the tea

drachenstern

alright, I'm following the general crowd. Gonna walk the dogs and pretend like I know where my pillow is

Dan Grossman

ciao drach

it's snowing hard outside here ^_^

Tyler Chacha

Schnapple!

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That is pin worthy..

Things that are pin-worthy are actually star worthy, but most of you don't realize it..

Dan Grossman

6:42 AM

idrink.com/v.html?id=36134

Michael Petrotta

Sandy Bridge parts arriving tomorrow. I'm probably too old to be this excited.

Dan Grossman

So, what's exciting about Sandy Bridge?

Michael Petrotta

it's faster!

and gets installed in a shiny new case!

Dan Grossman

Don't worry, we'll just continue bloating our software until it all runs just as slow on Sandy Run processors as the 1995 version ran on Pentium 90s.

Michael Petrotta

and we'll just sell more. No worries.

Dan Grossman

6:56 AM

I'm pretty sure it takes Microsoft Word 2007 longer to open a document than it took Microsoft Word '97 to do the same.

badp

7:58 AM

I'm trying to write a feature-request asking to unlist closed questions from Google, but I'm having difficulty wording it

so I guess I don't really have strong points for it

closes tab

Dan Grossman

Don't do that. Some awesome questions are closed for stupid political reasons. I've found them through Google.

badp

@DanGrossman Well, I was thinking of mainly unanswered and closed questions.

They just don't bring any value...

Dan Grossman

It's really Google's job to decide what's on Google anyway

:moved laptop to bed:

badp

Dunno, if Google was perfect w3fools wouldn't exist

Dan Grossman

w3fools shouldn't exist, w3schools deserves its traffic

I lost a lot of respect for those idiots that made the site

Yi Jiang

8:04 AM

@DanGrossman Please, there would be a lot less JavaScript questions on SO if that site even made a modicum of attempt at being accurate

Dan Grossman

Who the heck are you or anyone else to dictate the quality of their site?

Do I have any right to tell you not to publish something?

Yi Jiang

There are objective measures of a quality of a resource

Dan Grossman

Should nobody be able to attempt to teach others unless they are certified accurate?

Yi Jiang

@DanGrossman No, but the same would apply to w3fools wouldn't it?

badp

No, but I guess the problem is w3schools is invariably at the top of Google searches

Yi Jiang

8:06 AM

We have the right to say that the site is wildly inaccurate in a, b and c

Dan Grossman

They have the right, but I am free to think less of them for wasting their time on that instead of doing something helpful like w3schools

Yi Jiang

It teaches people things that are actively harmful

Dan Grossman

One site is a fricking free school, the other is a bunch of people whining about the free school

badp

@DanGrossman If you scroll at the bottom there's the reply to your point

Yi Jiang

@DanGrossman Meh, even w3school's biggest apologists admit that the site's admins don't respond to these criticism

Dan Grossman

8:07 AM

So?

Why should they?

Yi Jiang

@DanGrossman Because they are wrong and by not responding to criticism they continue being wrong

Dan Grossman

...and?

badp

Somebody is wrong on the internet!

Yi Jiang

And being wrong is actively harmful to the development of the web

Dan Grossman

They're doing much, much more good than harm. And they have no responsibility to not do harm anyway.

Yi Jiang

8:08 AM

You get hundreds of new JavaScript programmers making the same mistakes every single freaking day

You see a fraction of them on SO, and you get sick already

badp

The reason for the site, I believe, is that they see the content, they see the errors, and w3fools is the only way they've found to point them out and have them corrected.

Yi Jiang

There are better resources. If they can't responsibly teach others, then they should let others do the job

badp

As they said, if they could just edit the site themselves they would.

Dan Grossman

For each error, they should create a page about the same exact topic, with better information, publish it and share it. They've got enough people interested to spread the word. It'll outrank the w3schools page, and people will find it when they search.

badp

@DanGrossman Yeah, that's the point, they tried and it didn't outrank.

Yi Jiang

8:10 AM

@DanGrossman It already exists, MDN has better documentation - it's not perfect, but it's pretty darn good

Dan Grossman

Hell no.

Yi Jiang

And they get outranked anyway

Dan Grossman

Not in any way.

badp

> An oft-repeated mantra in OSS (and a critique we've already received) is that you shouldn't criticise something unless you're willing to put your money where your mouth is and build something better. It's an admirable ethos, but not really applicable here.

Dan Grossman

There is no comparison between the w3schools tutorials and MDN. The people that read w3schools tutorials CANNOT read MDN.

badp

8:11 AM

> W3Schools has put a lot of effort into positioning itself at the top of search results and, despite our efforts (such as the PromoteJS initiative), appears to be there to stay. Other, better resources already exist, but none of them are capable of overcoming the inertia that W3Schools has built up over the years.

Yi Jiang

@DanGrossman So the people who are wrong continue been wrong?

Dan Grossman

You can't take a newbie and dump them in an arcane syntax reference where they can't even figure out what heading to click on because all of the headings are words they don't know.

1 min ago, by Dan Grossman

For each error, they should create a page about the same exact topic, with better information, publish it and share it. They've got enough people interested to spread the word. It'll outrank the w3schools page, and people will find it when they search.

Yi Jiang

Until they come to places like SO where we have to reeducate them?

Dan Grossman

Topics are "how to find a string in a string", not "String.prototype.substring function reference"

Yi Jiang

We could create a "companion site" to W3Schools, but the corrections we'd have to write would probably be longer than the site itself

W3School's biggest crime is it's omission of key facts

Dan Grossman

8:13 AM

No, that's its strength

Bite sized tutorials that beginners can actually read, with "try it out" and demos to go with them

Everyone else is a reference book

Yi Jiang

They omit far too much - the page on DOM events, for instance, only mentioned inline events

badp

The criticism isn't about the method, it's about the contents...

Dan Grossman

Yet nobody wants to try to do better at the content w3schools is good at

badp

> […] professional web developers often prefer HTML editors like FrontPage or Dreamweaver, instead of writing plain text.

Dan Grossman

They just want to whine that their expert reference sites don't outrank the newbie-level content beginners want to find

Yi Jiang

8:15 AM

@badp That's... that's...

I'll just pull out a few examples, these are not comprehensive because I don't read as many js questions as I used to

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Q: Anyone can explain to me document.cookie

I founs this code in w3schoool javascript coookie section, which is to read the cookie: function getCookie(c_name) { if (document.cookie.length>0) { c_start=document.cookie.indexOf(c_name + "="); if (c_start!=-1) { c_start=c_start + c_name.length+1; c_end=document.cookie.ind...

javascript cookies

The W3School's cookie script carried no explanation - to newbies, it's a black box. String goes in, cookies comes out

Dan Grossman

So?

Yi Jiang

@DanGrossman So, questions like these get asked

Dan Grossman

And why is it the author's responsibility to do better? From where does this responsibility originate?

Yi Jiang

Surely, even a link to the reference for what the hell is document.cookie would be a good idea?

Dan Grossman

Whoever wrote the page is no more responsible to include the reference to document.cookie you want than YOU are to publish a page about it just because I'm telling you to, right now.

Yi Jiang

8:20 AM

@DanGrossman From the fact that the site has so much traffic, from the fact that you waste everybody's time if you don't, from the fact that sites like this give JavaScript a bad name

Dan Grossman

Do it, or else I'll create a YiJiangFool.com

They've done a service to the web, they published a page that tells you how to read and write a cookie, which is something a lot of people want to know how to do. You get in, you get the code, you get out. Great. You think that's awesome so when someone else asks, you point them to that page that helped you. Oh you want to know WHY it works how it works? Well go look it up in a language reference, don't complain to the person who helped you for not helping you more! He has no responsibility to!

badp

@DanGrossman Bingo; it's a problem right there when you say, "you get the code" and the code has bugs.

Dan Grossman

Good thing you didn't pay for it, then. But the code does work, or people wouldn't have linked to it thousands of times.

badp

I don't think people do SQL queries via string concatenation because they want to, they do because they were told to

@DanGrossman Pagerank doesn't work on page granularity AFAIK

Dan Grossman

Yes, it does.

badp

8:25 AM

anyway gotta leave

Dan Grossman

Every URL is a node in the link matrix of the web, the links are the edges, pagerank is just an eigenvector of that matrix

I had to calculate pageranks by finding eigenvectors on paper once on an exam in grad school... :x

> Nitpicking to be sure, but Unix has supported arbitrary 255-character file names since 1983

Disgusting, the people writing the corrections are clueless. The 3 letter file extension was because of Windows not Unix. Windows 3.1 is quite a bit newer than 1983.

badp

8:41 AM

@DanGrossman Uh, that's what they're saying

Dan Grossman

Please, please explain

badp

The .htm remark is made from the Windows-only perspective; Unix didn't need any of that since 1983, apparently.

Dan Grossman

And all people that make webpages are running Unix operating systems and only host on Unix?

badp

Linux is the major OS for servers IIRC.

Dan Grossman

Now you're advocating the equivalent of teaching IE6-only code

badp

8:43 AM

no, the countrary

Dan Grossman

> We use .htm in our examples. It is a habit from the past, when the software only allowed three letters in file extensions. With new software it is perfectly safe to use .html

This is what w3fools is trying to "correct" by saying UNIX didn't have that problem

badp

So why even mention .htm at all?

it only is relevant in Win3.1-

Dan Grossman

To explain why they use .htm in their examples!

badp

Then don't use .htm!

It just doesn't go with your theory of "strip away unnecessary yadda yadda"

Dan Grossman

Or do it, since there's no reason not to, and no good reason to go and update 400 tutorials that might mention it

There's nothing there to criticize, why is this listed as a correction?

badp

8:44 AM

The reason is it contradicts the philosophy of the site as you see it.

Dan Grossman

I don't think the site needs a philosophy, they can publish whatever they want

badp

Anyway, I'd just like to point out that you're whining about whiners

Dan Grossman

That they tended to be simple and easy to read is why they were successful

Yes, I am

badp

it's not much better than whining about websites

also it'll ruin your sleep

Here, watch this and cheer up:

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Dan Grossman

It upsets me tremendously that people can be such worthless pieces of s**t to spend that much effort putting down others' hard work, that they spent years creating for the good of others for absolutely free, and that people like you cheer them on and think this free work should not appear in Google

badp

8:49 AM

Correcting what's already there is the path of least resistance, or of least reinventing of the wheel. It doesn't make it necessarily right, I guess

Dan Grossman

Picture someone walking into an elementary school, finding the most senior teacher in the building, knocking her to the ground and kicking her in the stomach repeatedly.

That is how I picture each and every name at top of w3fools.com, as the person doing that.

The teacher's not perfect, she probably taught the kids a few wrong things, but she doesn't deserve that. Especially since she's teaching in a free school in Africa on her own dime.

I think I'm done now.

badp

and the teacher offers for-pay certifications on doing additions?

Dan Grossman

It doesn't matter that she has a side job outside of school. That doesn't make the teaching she does any less good. Nor does it oblige her to be a better teacher to those free students.

badp

anyway, yeah, I guess you get what you pay for at the end of the day

Dan Grossman

Damn, I really want to visit a west coast state right now

I need some mountains on my horizon, and some salt water in the wind

Luca Matteis

9:18 AM

hello

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Q: How do I list all the questions I've *answered* under a specific tag?

How do I list all the questions I've answered under a specific tag?

support

Dan Grossman

@LucaMatteis blog.stackoverflow.com/category/cc-wiki-dump

Yi Jiang

@DanGrossman The date explorer should be better data.stackexchange.com

Dan Grossman

you're right

write a query using that to join your answers to the posts to the tag you want

badp

@LucaMatteis is searching user:me [tag] isaccepted:1 good enough?

it'll give you all your answers for the given tag that have a checkmark

I tried combining isaccepted:1 and isaccepted:0 without success

Yi Jiang

This is odd, why are the bullets not of equal size?

Dan Grossman

9:44 AM

:yawns: it's getting a little late

Luca Matteis

@badp - thanks yes, it works great!

Dan Grossman

I need to rotate this mattress

well, that was easy

oooh, comfy.

Dan Grossman

10:31 AM

> Einstein, Newton and Pascal decide to play hide and seek. Einstein is it, closes his eyes, counts to 10 then opens them. Pascal is no where to be seen. Newton is sitting right in front of Einstein, with a piece of chalk in his hand. He's sitting in a box drawn on the ground, a meter to a side. Einstein says "Newton, you're terrible, I've found you!" Newton says "No no, Einy. You've found one Newton per square meter. You've found Pascal!"

> Q: How many Microsoft engineers does it take to change a light bulb? A: None. They just change the standard to darkness.

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> In September, a privately held and highly secretive U.S. biotech company named Joule Unlimited received a patent for “a proprietary organism” – a genetically adapted E. coli bacterium – that feeds solely on carbon dioxide and excretes liquid hydrocarbons: diesel fuel, jet fuel and gasoline.

> This breakthrough technology, the company says, will deliver renewable supplies of liquid fossil fuel almost anywhere on Earth, in essentially unlimited quantity and at an energy-cost equivalent of $30 (U.S.) a barrel of crude oil. It will deliver, the company says, “fossil fuels on demand.”

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badp

11:54 AM

@DanGrossman groans

Dan Grossman

Sun's rising, time for me to go to sleep

badp

12:49 PM

@TimStone You could just SELECT * FROM Unicorns there you know

come think of it, if you accidentally hit a pwnie instead, you could do with its weaponry too.

Yi Jiang

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