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4:00 PM
Doing fine. Was out of town over the weekend. (:
 
Labor Day adventure?
 
Ok. Fixed. It should be there now @PopularDemand.
 
@Diago Got it, thanks.
 
Yay, Fogbugz 8 beta available :)
 
@rchern And here I was wondering why no one ever mails me with complaints :P
 
4:01 PM
Is that the real domain, or a standin for your name?
 
@Diago, hehehe
 
@PopularDemand Real domain. Apple Mail.
@LasseVKarlsen Dammit, I still haven't finished using 7 yet.
 
Yeah, I've seen it used both ways, and didn't want to have another "I got confused!" discussion tomorrow.
 
@PopularDemand But will be interesting to see how many people get it right.
It took me 3 years to standarise my email address. I am not going through it again.
 
4:03 PM
@Diago Standardize how?
From name1@domain1.com and name2@domain2.com to name1 at both domains?
 
@PopularDemand Moving from 4 addresses to just one.
 
Also good.
 
Since I am one of the few idiots out there that still pay for an email address. I decided I was going to use it.
 
Do you get better features than you would with a free mail service?
 
Ok having the [discussion] badge on one meta is enough, but on two?
 
4:06 PM
lol
 
Ugh, that was such a disappointment.
 
@PopularDemand My phone, mac, and pc's all sync into the cloud, and I can access it all everywhere. Yeah, I guess I am. At the Apple premium
 
I was happy to get a tag badge at last, even if only for discussion, but then I found out it was only because they introduced a bronze-level badge....
 
@PopularDemand I am sorry. I didn't mean to disappoint. Want another drink?
 
I suppose, though I don't blame you for that new feature.
 
4:07 PM
Hmm, I've always wondered if there were more features compared to syncing everything with Google.
 
I guess having the badge for [feature-request], [support] and silver in [discussion] is not all
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@rchern When I started using it you couldn't sync with Google
 
Wait, sorry, I'm very Apple-ignorant... if you pay for an Apple e-mail address, you get to have the whole contents of all your Apple products accessible from the cloud?
 
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So at the time yes, but since I am now used to it, I don't want to change
@PopularDemand Pretty much. Everything syncs into MobileMe
 
@Diago Seems like an odd thing to tie to your e-mail. Or am I getting it backwards and the e-mail address is a side benefit you get when you pay for that cloud hookup?
 
4:09 PM
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@PopularDemand Side benefit. Although originally it was the main feature, it has since become the less important feature.
 
@Diago Okay, I'm all caught up now.
 
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4:11 PM
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When this gets pulled you'll get a [status-hated], @Chacha102 :P
 
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4:12 PM
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4:14 PM
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4:14 PM

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[status-for-all-your-abuse-needs]
 
@MichaelMrozek [status-you-can't-link-in-status-tag]
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4:16 PM
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Oy. That was not worth checking to see what the new messages were.
 
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Actually @rchern return indicates the end of 5 minutes :P
 
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ok, now everyone star the status messages
 
20 hours ago, by Michael Mrozek
That's why I hang out in here; the drive to Chat feedback just isn't worth it
 
4:20 PM
ok, now back to normal chatting
@mmyers Hello
 
[status] tags are like salt; a little can really enhance everything nicely, but too much and everything is ruined forever.
 
Um, wow. I think this room has been ruined forever.
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@PopularDemand But you gotta admit it was kinda fun
 
No, I am ashamed to have participated.
 
Childish, stupid and all that.... But fun.
 
4:22 PM
Soon we'll be telling people about how stars used to represent good posts back in the day, instead of just posts containing tags
 
What status posts are starred?
 
Oh, a mod killed all the stars. I didn't know they could do that
 
Nah, I removed them
 
@Chacha102 I didn't know you could do that.
 
You know it's going to be a long night when your blocked on your favorite chat site.
 
4:23 PM
Man, room ownership is awesome. I should take advantage more.
 
Well I starred all them, I should be able to remove my own stars..
 
Ah, that makes more sense
 
@PopularDemand Maybe you can try blue on for size sometime. It out awesomes room owners :)
 
@Diago We made a room called The Trash Heap where you can migrate unwanted messages to.
 
@Diago Somehow, I don't see that in my future. At least for a very long time.
 
4:26 PM
Ok, everyone make useless messages so I can test the migrate to trash heap idea
 
@Chacha102 I can remember you mentioning that in a drunken haze from last night
 
→ 9 messages moved to The Trash Heap
Ok, there goes all the useless messages
 
....
I'm not a big fan of this situation:
 
Especially that horrible one about @PopularDemand for moderator..
 
4:28 PM
@PopularDemand have you actually tried proposing yourself?
 
That was real trash..
 
@MichaelMrozek It's been fixed
 
@badp I am the proud owner of the now- (and quickly) closed bikesheds proposal.
 
@badp Don't post any more useless messages, that thing is over!
 
@badp It has?
 
4:29 PM
@MichaelMrozek Yes it has
 
My personal favorite is CMU, but that's unlikely to happen as I'm no longer a student and can't advertise.
 
See @chacha, it's not useless.
If we bothered to retype it twice it isn't.
 
@badp Apparently SEDE hates me then
 
@MichaelMrozek Tried forcing a full refresh?
was it Ctrl-F5?
 
Right people. I now have a serious problem. I am in way too many rooms
 
4:30 PM
@badp I did; I think it's Shift+F5 in chrome
 
@Diago Confirmed; I am also seeing the "Diago is in too many rooms" bug.
 
10. I don't even talk to that many people in a day
At least I am omnipresent
 
@badp Oh, for mod. That would be rude, and possibly gauche. And even if I really wanted a diamond, isn't asking how to become a mod the quickest way to get removed from consideration?
@Diago Heh. That reminds me of the scene near the end of Bruce Almighty.
When he's getting a divine message while standing in front of the OMNI Presents Company building.
 
@PopularDemand I know of a few self moderations that were accepted.
 
Not very subtle, but good for a chuckle every time.
 
4:33 PM
Hmmm.. That's a movie I need to download actually
 
I think self-nominations are pretty common on the SE betas
 
@MichaelMrozek See my earlier, heavily starred message:
20 hours ago, by Popular Demand
If I have learned one thing from the SE process, it's that I am not an expert in anything.
 
Well this is disappointing... the closest google result to what I'm seeing on one of my servers is a mailing list thread where the last message is, "I spent a while trying to fix this problem and didn't have any success. I ended up reformatting the hard drive and reinstalled from scratch. Everything is working fine now"
 
(For those who are too lazy to even check the starred list)
 
That's not great news for me
 
4:35 PM
@Josh Perhaps not. That is, however, why they invented SF.
 
@PopularDemand On SO, the last election was only for self-nominations.
 
@PopularDemand Yeah, I'm about to post on there :-)
 
@PopularDemand It that a rationale for not proposing yourself? I don't think you need to be an expert in the topic to be a mod, particularly on the trilogy sites where you're not worrying about defining on-topicness and that sort of thing
 
@MichaelMrozek Maybe it's just me, but I feel like that would be antithetical to what SE is trying to achieve.
 
@Shog9 For SU MOD
@PopularDemand For SO MOD
@Chacha102 For SF Mod
 
4:37 PM
The whole process focuses on trying to build communities of experts, and I feel like very few, if any, of my questions or answers are expert-quality.
 
Which means you become MSO mods
 
@Diago Is that still true? I thought they stopped automatically making trilogy mods MSO mods as well
 
:P
 
So I feel like I should not participate, for the betterment of the community.
 
Which is where the real action is
 
4:37 PM
@MichaelMrozek I think trilogy still are, but new SE site aren't.
 
@MichaelMrozek As far as I am aware the trilogy will still be, but not SE mods
 
At least until they leave Beta and get "real" mods.
 
The Trilogy is the one ring to rule them all!
 
Anyways, if I'm not participating, then I certainly shouldn't be a mod.
So... yeah, there's my thought process on that.
 
@PopularDemand One way to look at it is, if you're spending all your time moderating you're not posting questions/answers, so it might be better to not have the really knowledgeable people switch to moderating since you'll lose some of the posting activity
 
4:39 PM
Based on my actual content output, you would be surprised how many hours a day I spend thinking about Stack Exchange.
 
@MichaelMrozek True for everyone except Marc Gravell, I think.
 
I just got my first vanity google alert for a chat transcript because of these two messages:
in Chat feedback, Sep 2 at 7:20, by Diago
@balpha Do you think I should open a bug regarding the per site meta's not syncing profiles 24 hours later?
in Chat feedback, Sep 2 at 8:14, by Benjol
@balpha, there's probably some clever algorithm to work out, but I'd like to know how many users are chatting right now in a my favourite rooms, (where 'right now' has a suitably fuzzy definition)
 
@MichaelMrozek Perhaps. I remember hearing certain beta mods complaining about having small rep next to their diamonds though, I think people weren't taking them seriously?
 
@balpha (ducks, rolls, runs)
 
And on other sites there are mods who are in the thousands, I think even 10k in one case.
Not that your point isn't valid, @Michael, it is.
But there's gray area.
Hm, should I eat lunch today?
 
4:41 PM
@Diago You know, ducks and rolls could make a good meal with the right beverage.
 
@mmyers Would they give you the runs?
 
Not even going to go there.
 
@mmyers Yeah. I suspect my sense of humor is out of line tonight. Maybe time to log off for a bit.
For the record I don't have a sense of humor in the real world either.
 
@Diago You mean everybody likes you? (ducks and rolls)
 
@mmyers Now that you put it that way
 
4:44 PM
Completely tongue-in-cheek, by the way. Maybe crossing the line.
 
@mmyers I don't even know where the line is anymore. I automatically take everything as an insult. :)
 
@Diago Fine, let's step outside. Do you choose the weapons or do I?
For the record, my choice would be ducks and rolls.
 
@mmyers I believe it's challengee's prerogative.
 
Okay I'm quitting IT and becoming a farmer.
 
4:49 PM
@balpha Um. Totally did not see that one coming.
 
@Josh Say what?
 
@PopularDemand I love computers, except when they decide to fail for unexpected reasons, soooo frustrating!
 
@Josh You'll love farming, except when your crops decide to fail for unexpected reasons, soooo frustrating!
At least if SimFarm is any indication.
 
> The only problem with the speed of light is that it gets here too early in the morning.
 
lunch took a detour to Best Buy.. hello new pair of headphones
 
4:53 PM
@Fosco Wait... Best Buy sells headphones that can pass a Turing test?
 
@mmyers I intend to grow RAM chips :-)
 
@Fosco Best Buy's headphones tend to be high in cholesterol
 
> "The Internet: where men are men, women are men, and children are FBI agents."
 
@PopularDemand they were expensive enough that I would expect they'd give it a good try.
 
OK. I finally fixed this damn server. There were a lot of error messages upon boot, but none of them were actually relevant in any way to what the real issue was!
Now I need a drink :-)
 
4:54 PM
@Josh that's linux for you!
 
> "Unix is user-friendly. It's just very selective about who its friends are."
 
@Fosco that's computers for me :-)
@Chacha102 Ha, exactly!
 
Feature request: increase speed of light by 10%
 
> Microsoft: "You've got questions. We've got dancing paperclips."
 
@Chacha102 apparently I'm not on the list today :-)
 
4:55 PM
I suspect @Chacha102 is trapped by a spell that forces him to only speak in tech quotes
 
lol
 
@MichaelMrozek and not serve any alcohol?
 
> "Men are from Mars. Women are from Venus. Computers are from hell."
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> "A computer lets you make more mistakes faster than any invention in human history - with the possible exceptions of handguns and tequila"
 
@Chacha102 And then only when combined, I suspect.
 
I have to stop reading these quotes, people around me are thinking I'm weird..
 
4:58 PM
@Chacha102 what does that have to do with the quotes?
 
@balpha I'm trying to keep myself from laughing and its hard...
 
OK first problem of the day solved. Now to get some lunch and then determine why one of my brand new UPS units thinks it's a cricket...
 
Have you disabled Cricket-mode?
 
Why did I just get a bunch of popups for my question?
 
What @Chacha102 said.
 
5:04 PM
@LasseVKarlsen I disabled the whole unit, lol
 
@balpha YOU COMPLETELY BROKE CHAT.
:P
@balpha Well, you didn't completely break it... but it is broken...
 
(In addition to barely using facebook and never even signing up for twitter, I've never used an RSS feed beyond the minimal testing I once had to do for one I wrote.)
 
@balpha I mean all the windows and functionality is there, but there are these stupid things popping up about my question on Meta.So
@balpha So its broken...
 
Well, you'll know now if there are new name suggestions :)
 
(So, those shiny orange icons just mean " Ignore this! " to me.)
 
5:06 PM
my friend says hi
 
@Chacha102 Did you see we had a celebrity here today.
 
and apparently she scared you all off...
@Diago Who?
 
2 hours ago, by Popular Demand
Should I know who Sara Chipps is? I just Googled her, didn't get a Wikipedia entry.
 
9 hours ago, by Sara Chipps
how awesome is this room?
@PopularDemand girldeveloper.com
 
@Diago Yeah, that was covered later.
 
5:09 PM
Did someone give her a drink?
 
Well for completeness sake
Ok, who's seen I spit on your grave?
 
It's on my list for "things to check when I get home." And also on my list of "potential blogs to follow"; we'll see if it's any good.
 
@PopularDemand Do you actually have a list for that? Or is it abstract?
 
Who else thinks the ticker should actually behave like the starred list? (separately from the starred list)
 
Someone say Hi to my friend for pete sakes. Don't embrace the programming anti-social stereotype!
 
5:11 PM
@Chacha102 I have a list for the former; it's part of a Gmail draft e-mail that never gets sent. (And has my own e-mail in the "To" field in case it gets sent accidentally.) The list for the latter is the Programmers SE question, for now.
 
You didn't even tell us how he's called, @Chacha102
 
@badp What ticker?
 
"Hi friend of Chacha102" sounds incredibly lame.
 
@badp GMTA
 
@PopularDemand it's the name for that thing adding to the top with the "Naming the tavern" links
 
5:12 PM
@Chacha102's friend HELLO!!!!
Now go ahead and stereotype
 
@badp Yeah, I suspected as much. Thanks.
 
Right now it should rather be named Awesome Notification Bar, Jr. (and Not As Awesome)
 
hi i'm Chacha102's friend. how's it goin y'all?
 
@Diago Considering your prominence on SO relative to your prominence on SU, I'm not certain we can use you as an example of breaking the stereotype. (waffles and fried rice)
 
@Chacha102 Procrastinatingly okay
I'll go now downvote programming related names for the tavern
 
5:14 PM
anyone London based going to the Jetbrains Community Night (jetbrains.eventbrite.com)? Free beer and nibbles
 
@PiersMyers At first I read it "nipples"
 
@badp doubt there will be many of those as probably male only
 
@PiersMyers Males also have nipples.
 
@badp not ones I want to see
 
@PiersMyers That's not the point.
 
5:18 PM
@PopularDemand For some reason that made absolutely no sense whatsoever, but sounded very very cool!
 
@Diago Fried rice sounds cool?!
 
@badp That does concern me. How did @PopularDemand know what I had for lunch today?
 
Well, you didn't say anything about the popular "ducks and rolls" meal, so I went on to the second-most-popular meal.
 
(Yes I have lost the plot completely. I am just going with it. Go with it, we will be on track again shortly)
 
I don't even know what fried rice looks like...
 
5:21 PM
I like the new 'mention' highlighting - well done whoever was responsible for that
 
This is so ridiculous. I talk more nonsense when I am sober then what I do when I am drunk. I think I need a drink.
@PiersMyers You can thank @balpha for that little trick
@Chacha102 This will be my next T-Shirt
 
actually Jeff suggested it. I just wrote it.
 
26 mins ago, by Chacha102
> "Men are from Mars. Women are from Venus. Computers are from hell."
@balpha Right. Now I really need that drink.
 
@balpha so much better than the bouncing gravitar. Nice shade of green too
 
can't take credit for the color, either :)
but I'd like to stress that bouncy wasn't my idea either. Just sayin... ;)
 
5:26 PM
Yeah @balpha, I agree with @PiersMyers, the new notification icon is great
 
@Josh Hi Josh, how's it going - was your server issue due to spiders? :)
 
@spoulson Testing
Damn. Can't highlight myself.
You guys think of everything!
 
@spoulson Closed as dupe of
in Chat feedback, Aug 30 at 18:08, by balpha
SEE? WE'VE THOUGHT OF EVERYTHING! MUUAAAHAHAHA
 
Oh, so there's no bouncing avatar at all now?
 
@PiersMyers Hey there @PiersMyers! Yes, it was, how did you know???!!!111
 
5:32 PM
I was hoping for some 3d demo effects or something
just because you can
 
@Josh and crickets in your UPS - quite a zoo you have there
 
Though, admittedly, there was
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Q: It is currently possible to notify all users in a room

badpMy self-censoring attempt ended up highlighting for the whole room. Apparently, most combinations of three or more non-letters after the @ symbol will work, including the original @#$£ or less imaginative @###, @$$$, @£££. @@@@ also works.

But boy, was that [status-completed] fast.
 
I know SO is the master Q&A repo, but is it ok to ask quick coding questions here? That is, particularly when the chat room for the subject is empty?
 
@PiersMyers More like an insect habitat! I need to get an exterminator in here :-)
 
@Josh something like the T1000
 
5:36 PM
@spoulson Maybe check out The Roach Motel, too.

The Roach Motel

Interactive help with bug testing, code review, anything that
Hm, actually it seems to be dead.
 
@PopularDemand Yeah I've been trying to get it started
@spoulson That's exactly what I designed The Roach Motel for is questions like that
 
Did it have to be named as such? :)
 
@Josh Isn't that always the problem? Once The Tavern exists, everyone else's challenge is getting people to visit "some other" room, never mind what it is. Once the iPhone was invented, everyone was trying to invent "an iPhone killer," not just "a great phone."
 
@spoulson Nope, that was community suggested :-) I'm open to new names
@PopularDemand too true :-)
 
@Josh Maybe you should make a contest for naming it :P
 
5:41 PM
@Chacha102 A good plan! I'll wait until the other contests die down, and also until the heat from my /me comment blows over :-)
 
So the Roach Motel is the new Tavern killer?
 
I think @devinb is angry with me :-)
@balpha I highly doubt it, very dead in there :-)
 
Tavern killer? The Tavern is already dead. The only people in here are code zombies recently slain by their evil overlord bosses...
 
@Josh Hey, that's right! You're the guy who was responsible for that whole /me mess! I won't forget this! <sub>(again!)</sub>
 
 
5:44 PM
Wait. @Josh is the reason?
 
LOL
 
@Josh Have a already threatened to come to your house and bludgeon you to death with a /me? If not, considered yourself threatened.
 
I think I'd better duck outta here before I get made into a zombie, lol
@Diago Yes, I consider myself doubly threatened now :-)
@Diago And saddened I would piss off a peer I respect!
 
@Josh I would suggest you aim much, much higher :)
 
@Diago :-)
I'm off to lunch, bbs!
 
5:47 PM
 
@Josh A "peer"?! Ha! As if! (Whether this is an insult to Josh or to Diago is left as an exercise for the reader.)
 
@Diago keeps threatening people, the list is so long now that I don't feel like it is an elite group anymore! :P
 
@rchern It never was, and I don't keep track. Which makes it easier :)
Hmmm... I think it is time for a meta name change.
Suggestions?
 
@Diago Oh, boy! Firing up the memes page....
 
@PopularDemand While your at it we need to add Jeff's pluralise bug to it :)
 
5:56 PM
is "/" allowed in a display name?
 
@Diago Eh. That one's all you.
 
@rchern We can find out.
 
@Shog9ForModOnSU
 
if so, you should totally be /me (:
 
@rchern No :(
 
5:57 PM
):
 
just a-z A-Z 0-9 space period and probably dash
 
@badp Beat me to it
slash-me?
 
@badp @rchern Will you two settle on one direction for me to tilt my head?
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Doesn't work so well
 
@PopularDemand, say what now?
 
5:58 PM
I was thinking along the lines of enforcer?
@rchern You type your smileys the wrong way round. Must be a female thing
We don't have that many female visitors.
 
@rchern @badp If you people keep using both ): and :(, I'm going to get sideways-whiplash. And that's not even a thing!
 
@PopularDemand ): ._. :( ╵▔╵
 
@PopularDemand, well, then I guess you need to get everyone to use (:
 

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