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Coding Gorilla

7:00 PM

I miss clippy... he was the only friend I had for a long time

Octavian Damiean

wouldn't be clippy awesome on SO?

mootinator

It looks like you're asking a subjective question! I can help you re-word that.

Octavian Damiean

It looks like you are struggling to paste your code. Can I help you?

Coding Gorilla

2

A classic :D

Octavian Damiean

lol

Tim Stone

7:06 PM

It looks like you forgot to put vowels in your words. Do you need help locating those keys?

drachenstern

How do I find out the currently hottest SE questions?

Octavian Damiean

:D

@drachenstern ask clippy

drachenstern

lol

mootinator

wtf?

Coding Gorilla

@TimStone that's awesome, I love SLaks comment

drachenstern

7:07 PM

stackexchange.com/questions/custom <-- right?

see #2

mootinator

It's deleted...

drachenstern

also, should that be protected to prevent additional 1rep answers?

deleted?

WTF?

mootinator

Page not found...

drachenstern

I see that

WHY?

@balpha you around?

mootinator

Were there useful answers on it?

drachenstern

7:09 PM

There were.

balpha

@drachenstern yep

drachenstern

why? what did it do to anyone that was so bad?

Coding Gorilla

OMG!

My eyes!!

badp

@drachenstern honestly I don't think it was @balpha deleting it?

drachenstern

I know it wasn't, but I know that he can look at it

he has powers, no?

mootinator

7:11 PM

Supreme 10k powers on english?

drachenstern

he's like a blue diamond ... they have powers

mootinator

oh ahh

drachenstern

and he expressed an interest in that question earlier

balpha

yeah, I actually found it interesting

drachenstern

I thought that it was a perfectly acceptable question and I was pretty sure my answer made it a legitimate question with acceptable answers

mmeyers and others seemed to think it was fine, figured if anyone can deduce why, a blue diamond mod could

mootinator

7:14 PM

I want to read this question now.

I'm supposing it was legitimate despite the title :)

Michael Mrozek

You could just ask on their meta

drachenstern

poking about, but at the time there was an indication on the question itself in the comments that this was already established on their own meta

that this sort of question was acceptable. I can't exactly pull it up now to quote it

Moshe

@Zypher - Added you.

Zypher

schweet

Moshe

Assuming that you were the random email I got this morning with a UDID.

:-D

mootinator

7:18 PM

7

Q: Offensive/NSFW words: what are the boundaries?

We have already established that this is a language site, and even offensive words are part of language. As such, these may be discussed on the site from time to time, in which case they might appear uncensored (at the writer's discretion). I think this is appropriate. On the other end of the ...

discussion

drachenstern

0

Q: What was the motivation to close "tits and boobies" because that was a valid question, no?

I don't have the text anymore (caching) so I can't quote it, but I know that the commentary already had some discussion from site-mods saying that it was acceptable, and quoting meta questions here. So why was http://english.stackexchange.com/questions/9293/what-is-the-difference-between-tits-...

discussion appropriate-questions

badp

oh, come on

Zypher

@Moshe haha

balpha

@drachenstern the onebox contains the full text

drachenstern

but not the comments

it's the comments that I want access to, one of the posters linked to two meta discussions, and a snapshot of the whole list would be nice

badp

7:20 PM

I had to wipe my Chrome profile. Now I can't anymore set my sans serif default font because the settings UI don't expose it.

drachenstern

ok, asked on meta and chat so let's see if anyone responds

badp

Now Plain Clothes changes everything to Arial. Gross!

Moshe

@CodingGorilla Heh, Clippy was enough to drive anyone to do that.

Tim Stone

@badp Ew! Unacceptable!

badp

I don't even know how to phrase this in a googleable form...

Moshe

7:21 PM

@drachenstern Where did that site get those icons from?

badp

because it appears I can change the font, except it's only the sans serif default

drachenstern

idk, I linked the article

balpha

> Seeing how this has collected two offensive flags within 50 minutes of being posted, I would like to remind everybody that this is a totally valid question for this site. (See meta question one, meta question two.) I do understand your frustration if you're browsing from a workplace where tits are not tolerated, but please take that up with the workplace and not with Sergey.

– RegDwight 3 hours ago

drachenstern

you'll have to scroll up and check

@balpha number one, thanks

Coding Gorilla

any know what domain emails from SE come from? I need to put it on a whitelist

Moshe

7:22 PM

@Zypher - Any ideas for what achievements to add to the game?

Zypher

hmm not sure, not gonna get a chance to really play until my ride home tonight .. but there are the normal score based one

and sold x amount of x ones

drachenstern

Thanks again @balpha now to see if the community over there responds

Moshe

@Zypher - Okay, fair enough. Well, there's an achievement called "Reminisce" (Awarded for downloading the game.)

Got this on my profile's envelope: Sam
403210
commented on
BRAVO FOR BEING CONSICE & TO THE POINT Please forgive us who need so many unnessary words, making this comment area dirty and off topicy!

drachenstern

@Josh scroll up to my most recent OB

Moshe

@Zypher - There is a minor cheat, but nothing to exciting.

Anyone know what's up with that "BRAVO FOR BEING CONCISE..." link?

Zypher

7:26 PM

ah

Moshe

Which was unclickable, btw.

Zypher

i don't like cheats till my second or third playthough :)

Tim Stone

@drachenstern Well, it's probably not super likely you'll get the six people who flagged it offensive to explain why they did. :P

Zypher

although i do miss the way doom let you know you where in GOD MODE

Moshe

@Zypher - Okay, let me know when you're ready for me to tell you what it is. Just a little quick cash.

Josh

7:26 PM

@drachenstern just got back

drachenstern

@TimStone so you think it was removed by flag and not by delete?

Tim Stone

I'd suspect so.

Moshe

@TimStone I'll explain if necessary.

Tim Stone

But, I could be wrong.

drachenstern

Regardless, it needs to be sorted out on the meta over there, because they've got a conflicting community

Josh

7:27 PM

WTF they deleted it?

drachenstern

@TimStone would be handy if @balpha would tell me wouldn't it? ;)

@Josh that's the idea :(

makes me want to go and post other similar questions :p

also, causes me to have a reprecalc serious loss over there </wah>

Tim Stone

@drachenstern There are moderators on that site that can sort it out for you, hopefully they'll see your meta post. :P

mootinator

"What is the difference between ** and **?"

drachenstern

@TimStone oh yeah, the highest rep user there commented and said it was acceptable. Go figure.

Moshe

@mootinator Where * and * are not potentially offensive words.

drachenstern

7:29 PM

"The one person we trust the most said it was ok, but it creeped me out so I'm going to flag it anyways"

badp

@drachenstern I wish edit proposals were on

mootinator

@Moshe What is the difference between cock and rooster?

Moshe

@drachenstern Not everyone always looks for the highest rep user. Rep indicates knowledge of the subject matter and involvement.

@mootinator In that context, one is you trying to be a wise-guy and the other one is irrelevant because of the first one.

drachenstern

@Moshe on this particular site you would have to admit that the subject matter is rather narrowly focused

Tim Stone

@drachenstern People saw the title on the front page an immediately went for the flag button, I'm sure, heh.

drachenstern

7:30 PM

I think it's evident that he's involved if he has the highest rep, so most everyone would know the name

Tim Stone

Reading on English? Not required!

mootinator

@Moshe It's not just me trying to be a wiseguy, I really don't know the difference ;)

drachenstern

imagine if JeffAtwood said "this question is acceptable on SO" and six people flagged it as being not acceptable?

Moshe

@mootinator Your example is slightly different, because it wasn't the comparison between two obscene words. I wouldn't flag that if it were serious.

drachenstern

@mootinator a cock can be a male bird, it doesn't have to be a rooster.

@Moshe so you thought that boobies was obscene? You wouldn't teach your child to say boobies instead of breasts?

mootinator

7:31 PM

@drachenstern Thanks. I did not know that.

Tyler Chacha

So, I just came up with this really cool idea...

Josh

@drachenstern I have an older copy of the question open, do you need any of the HTML?

Moshe

@drachenstern - Nobody, not even Jeff himself, can dictate what other people are sensitive to. That's the point.

drachenstern

boobies is seriously a child friendly word

Moshe

@TylerChacha I'm listening.

drachenstern

7:32 PM

@Moshe no, you're missing my point and trying to be pedantic

Moshe

@drachenstern Why do children need to be discussing that?

Tyler Chacha

Basically, I want to clean out an old 70s van with a jacquzi.

drachenstern

@Josh the comments of the question really, so yours is likely too old

Tyler Chacha

And take it around 100 miles off the coast of africa

drachenstern

@TylerChacha say that again?

Josh

7:32 PM

@drachenstern probably so

Moshe

Honestly, those are usually immature conversation. That is not something to be encouraged.

drachenstern

@Moshe little girls emulate women, women have breasts, little girls are curious

mootinator

@Moshe Why is it off color for children to discuss something they spent the first 6 months of their lives sucking on?

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drachenstern

@Moshe you don't have children do you?

Josh

@Moshe what world do you live in where kids don't joke about "boobies"?

Moshe

7:33 PM

@drachenstern Okay, so it depends on context.

drachenstern

it's RATHER EVIDENT THAT YOU DON'T

Josh

@mootinator hear hear

Moshe

@drachenstern Ok, so?

Tyler Chacha

@drachenstern I want to take one of those old vans, the ones with shrag carpet and whatever, with a jacquiz

drachenstern

so it makes a huge difference

Moshe

7:33 PM

@drachenstern Why?

Tyler Chacha

Then, we go about 100 miles off the coast of Africa, and get in the jacquzi

drachenstern

you're worried about what people are going to think when they see it on your screen.

I'm thinking it's a valid way for a person to learn more about English

Moshe

@drachenstern Right, so?

drachenstern

@mootinator you should also post that on the site btw

Tim Stone

@TylerChacha This...sound a bit strange. :P

Tyler Chacha

7:34 PM

We put a brick on the gas, set at 60 MPH, and let it just start driving for the coast of Africa.

drachenstern

@Moshe so then don't open the damned page

Moshe

@drachenstern True.

Tyler Chacha

We enjoy the jacquzi, along with the thrill of the ride, because..

drachenstern

@TylerChacha you're making this sound really odd

Tim Stone

I'm definitely missing some context/reference here.

Fosco

7:34 PM

I think his point was that he didn't have a choice about opening the page... the one box does it for you.

Josh

@TylerChacha is this rant directed at anyone in particular? ;-)

Tyler Chacha

The car won't stop. Every person is given a parachute and has to jump off before it reaches the cliff..

Rebecca Chernoff

Oy

2

Moshe

@Fosco That was my original point, yes.

drachenstern

@AlisonS welcome, are you by chance here on account of my English.SE post?

Moshe

7:35 PM

sighs at how quickly oy was starred

Josh

@TimStone regarding the boobies discussion or the car with the jacquzi?

Fosco

/me is fast.

Tyler Chacha

Once the car reaches the cliff, it tumbles into the ocean, releasing environmentally enzymes and chemicals that will help clean up the ocean

mootinator

@drachenstern I've just gotten a deluge of e-mail. I'll likely not remember once this is dealt with.

Rebecca Chernoff

@Moshe, never fails, sigh

drachenstern

7:35 PM

@Fosco and my point is it's a fracking question, we come here to discuss the validity of questions, you can't escape that in this room

Tim Stone

@Josh What Tyler is on about, yes.

drachenstern

that is the point OF THIS ROOM

Moshe

@drachenstern Okay, okay, stop shouting.

Josh

@TimStone I missed it too, LOL

Tyler Chacha

So yeah ... a bunch of people enjoy a jacquzi for about an hour and a half, and then we all jump off and watch it sink into the ocean

Fosco

7:36 PM

well, I don't think this room is really the place to discuss the validity of questions...

Moshe

@TylerChacha and it lands a hunk of metal in the ocean.

Tim Stone

@Josh OK, as long as I'm not the only one.

Rebecca Chernoff

@drachenstern, you posted the question on their meta, that's the proper place for it.

Tyler Chacha

@Moshe Yes.

badp

@Moshe The truth is, there's always a valid reason for an "Oy", even if she doesn't know why.

Fosco

7:36 PM

as in, that's not the purpose of this room.. but it's a valid place to do such a thing.

Tim Stone

@RebeccaChernoff Indeed.

Moshe

@TylerChacha Terrible for the environment.

drachenstern

@RebeccaChernoff he's complaining about the OB of the question in the first place

@RebeccaChernoff sorry but you're missing context

Moshe

Ok, for the record:

Josh

@Fosco wait, you're saying this room does have a purpose then?

drachenstern

7:37 PM

his complaint was that the fact that this room OB'd the question on * that it showed up on his screen and he couldn't prevent it

Tyler Chacha

@Moshe I'll find some way to clean it up... but the Pacific waste dump isn't that sparkly either..

Josh

if so, I totally missed it ;-)

Fosco

@Josh It's purpose may be the lack of purpose.

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Josh

@Fosco I find this profound somehow

Moshe

Can we please not post OneBox links or photos that people might find offensive? Forget wether it it's right or wrong. I'm not here to pass judgement on people's morals. Please do me a favor and be sensitive.

drachenstern

7:38 PM

@Fosco ok, better than mine, I agree ;)

Fosco

@Josh Hehe... I often plan to not have plans.

drachenstern

@Moshe well for starters I've never heard anyone say that * is offensive, so that's new by me, thus making it harder to avoid such a post

Rebecca Chernoff

@drachenstern I'm simply speaking generally.

drachenstern

(edited for Moshe)

Josh

@Moshe ...maybe you're in the wrong room...

Moshe

7:38 PM

@drachenstern Fair enough.

@Josh Whoa.

drachenstern

@RebeccaChernoff well yeah, hence why I asked for bluemod help here then went there and posted it

Fosco

You cannot expect safety in an internet chat room.

Rebecca Chernoff

I think everybody needs to calm down. ):

Moshe

True.

I'm calm.

I'm going to pretend this never happened.

drachenstern

are we not calm? I passed tension about ten minutes ago

Rebecca Chernoff

7:39 PM

It doesn't seem calm in here.

Tim Stone

@RebeccaChernoff I'm playing WwF, I'm not sure what's up with everyone else ;)

Josh

@Moshe No, what I mean is, this room is hardly the place where everyone is serious and posts only on-topic, non-offensive images/oneboxes/messages/etc

Moshe

Everything from before this message did not happen.

drachenstern

@Josh indeed, we've posted more than one marginallyNSFW pics in here

Moshe

@Josh Not sure what you're talking aobut.

Rebecca Chernoff

7:40 PM

WHY CAN I NOT TYPE CALM (and I totally just added the n again...) CORRECTLY THE FIRST TIME?!

Josh

This room is a free-for-all. If you aren't comfortable with that, then you should be in a room that stays on topic

Tim Stone

CLAM!

drachenstern

@RebeccaChernoff because you're not calm?

mootinator

@RebeccaChernoff You know what makes me calm down? Looking at pictures of ___.

Moshe

@Josh Interesting point.

Rebecca Chernoff

7:40 PM

...

Jin

this calmed me down today:

@mootinator LOL

@mootinator lolcatz!

@mootinator kittens? flowers? daisys? puppies?

Moshe

7:41 PM

@Jin - KNow where I can get some 512x512 images for my Game Center achievements?

Michael Mrozek

Raindrops on roses and whiskers on kittens?

Jin

@Moshe no

Moshe

@RebeccaChernoff Hey, it's not oy.

mootinator

Somehow Jin just knew it was ST:TNG characters.

Josh

To emphasize, @Moshe and @RebeccaChernoff, I am not upset at all, I'm very calm and didn't mean to upset anyone with my comments. My tone (which cannot be conveyed through text alone) was not angry, upset or demeaning.

Moshe

7:42 PM

@Josh Valid point.

Michael Mrozek

My tone is always demeaning

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Josh

@MichaelMrozek that's why I am voting for you for SO mod ;-)

Jin

@MichaelMrozek oh yeah gl with that.

drachenstern

@Josh I get upset when people tell me * is offensive and obscene and I shouldn't post that word on IRC style rooms ... so I'll admit to getting upset

Fosco

Yeah I'll also vote for @MichaelMrozek

and Lasse V Karlsen

Michael Mrozek

7:43 PM

@Jin Thanks. My original hope was to make it through the primaries; now I've settled for hoping I make it to the primaries

drachenstern

I'm also told I routinely sound like I'm talking down to people, which I don't intend, except like maybe one in a thousand or two thousand posts, but I tend to make it obvious then that I'm talking down

@Fosco your sentiments mirror mine

Tim Stone

Owe, my stomach hurts. Damn you chicken lo mien!

drachenstern

speaking of food, I should eat and walk my dogs ... I'm gone for the next 45 or so guys

Josh

@TimStone Yuck :-( I hope you feel better!

Fosco

I love boobs.

drachenstern

7:44 PM

gone meaning on my iOS instead of my desktop

Jin

@TimStone i told the chinese place to put some "special sauce" in your lo mien, for beating me in WwF...

Tim Stone

@Josh I'm hoping it's just because I'm a pig and stuffed myself. :P

SwDevMan81

Whats on tap in this tavern?

Tim Stone

@Jin I made it myself ;)

Though I did just save myself from giving you a very nice place to play your Q..

SwDevMan81

homemade jin... sweet

Josh

7:45 PM

@SwDevMan81 Today? The Brew of Discontent, apparently ;-)

SwDevMan81

haha

Jin

@TimStone oh. well i'd keep an eye open if i were you next time you go to a chinese take out place...

Josh

Shall I pour you a tall frosty mug of it @SwDevMan81? :-)

Tim Stone

@Jin I'll be on guard now. That might be problematic when I go back to Hong Kong though...damn

SwDevMan81

yes, as long as its as cool as the droid beer app

Rebecca Chernoff

7:46 PM

Oh that reminds me. @drachenstern, boooooooooooooooo at your last move.

Fosco

@RebeccaChernoff I thought my last move was pretty cheap too..

balpha

@drachenstern you might want to do that the other way around :)

Josh

HAHAHA

drachenstern

Do what the other way round?

Josh

That's awful and hysterical simultaneously, @balpha

drachenstern

7:48 PM

Also, see here mrs 150 on one play ...

Yeah it was cheap ;)

Josh

@drachenstern eat and walk your dogs

drachenstern

Of course

But eat comes before walk

Damn you mind that does ORDER BY 1 ASC by nature ;)

Tim Stone

He eats them, then walks it off.

SwDevMan81

haha, that how u get cramps

Josh

I think @balpha meant, um, how to explain... OK. $('.dogs').eat().walk()

balpha

7:51 PM

once again, jQuery to the rescue

Rebecca Chernoff

Really? You're explaining by using jQuery?

Oy.

Tim Stone

It's the solution to all things.

Why does this surprise you?

Josh

@RebeccaChernoff Look who my audience is. Gotta talk at their level!

Tim Stone

Prototype heretic!

Josh

@balpha, I notice that the list of starred items grows and shrinks to fir the available real estate it has. So bigger windows show more stars and hiding the rooms shows more stars. This is amazing and impressive and gives me a great idea...

mootinator

7:53 PM

Vegas Starring Odds: Really? You're explaining by using jQuery? (1%) Oy. (67%)

drachenstern

Cos it should be $(this).eat().find('dogs').walk()

balpha

@Josh interesting that you notice that now, it's always been like that

Josh

If you use a userscript to remove starred "Oy"s and starred "..."s from the right hand list, will more starred items appear???

balpha

(the room list does the same)

Josh

@balpha I've always known that, the idea above I just had this morning

Ah, @MarcGravell is here to help with my great idea as well!

drachenstern

7:54 PM

Good question!

Tim Stone

Run Marc, run!

Josh

yes, it works!!!

Right @balpha?

Moshe

I was wondering what I forgot to install on my iPhone 4.

Wwf it is.

Marc Gravell

@Josh (rubs tired eyes) you what now?

Moshe

@Josh I've thought of that before. It is a good idea.

Tim Stone

7:56 PM

I think he's just entered in a delusional state, don't worry.

balpha

@Josh The answer, my friend...

►

Josh

@MarcGravell If I use jQuery to .remove() <li> elements from #starred-posts that contain, oh I don't know, "Oy" for example, will new starred posts appear automatically to replace them?

Fosco

@Josh .I'm guessing no.

Rebecca Chernoff

@balpha, grrr, I was typing out the rest of that sentence. >_<

balpha

@Josh no, there's just 10 in the DOM

Marc Gravell

7:58 PM

I would agree no... unless I special-case your event queue to drip-feed you fake "Oy"s every so often.

balpha

(just make the window high enough, you'll see it)

Josh