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3:00 PM

I was going to say "Top tag" should be "Top non-required tag" since it's unlikely on meta to have a non-required tag as your top tag. — Mooseman 5 secs ago

J. Steen

I seem to recall there being a meta-question somewhere on the usefulness of "my regex no worky plz fix" kind of questions. Does anyone remember it? My google-fu is lacking.

Braiam

@J.Steen you need to train more your google-fu

J. Steen

@Braiam Obviously. In the meantime...

bjb568

TIL forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?p=20777045#post20777045

J. Steen

Bananas. Who knew.

Braiam

3:13 PM

The close queue on SO is dropping, while the LQRQ is growing

Mooseman

/me tracks USPS package. Page says it's coming yesterday. o.O

J. Steen

Best title: stackoverflow.com/questions/28857939/problems-in-application

Mooseman

@J.Steen Better still: stackoverflow.com/q/27669373/1234256

J. Steen

At least it's jQuery. jQuery does all things.

Screw this. I'm going home. o/

Mooseman

@SmokeDetector fp

SmokeDetector

3:22 PM

@Mooseman Registered question as false positive and added title to Bayesian doctype 'good'.

Braiam

I don't even *want* this package! Why did I join the stinging insect of the month club, anyway?

Mooseman

@Braiam At least that isn't self-contradictory. ;)

Lynn Crumbling

naa stackoverflow.com/a/27400288/656243

^ read his profile. it's a great waste of 15 seconds.

Bart

"great"

nicael

3:37 PM

naa

Lynn Crumbling

@Bart too late to edit, sorry.

cv-pls broad|ot-nocode|? stackoverflow.com/q/28858611/656243

^ I "love" the codeblock with just "Sorry".

@Bart Look! I used the sarcastic quotes correctly!

@gunr2171 nice

gunr2171

I was trying to find a duplicate, that came up first

@LynnCrumbling you know, I might actually answer that

Lynn Crumbling

3:54 PM

@gunr2171 Go for it.

@gunr2171 +1

gunr2171

thanks

Lynn Crumbling

@gunr2171 eh, you put the time in to research it, and cited docs... seemed useful to me :)

gunr2171

True, thanks.

Bart

@LynnCrumbling you learn fast young grasshopper

SPArchaeologist

@LynnCrumbling the bad is that if someone was to reply "yes to both question" his answer would get downvoted.

Lynn Crumbling

4:00 PM

@SPArchaeologist Yeah, I've actual held off casting a close vote...

@Bart David Carradine would be proud.

user259867

4:26 PM

user259867

^ seems to be new: the text and number of bounties in the heading change with the option choice.

user259867

(In user profiles network wide)

Travis J

o/

So I want to duplicate some content in meta and figured I would come in here first.

Braiam

@TravisJ you can... just remember to change all $sitename and $siteurl

Travis J

The SO meta (mSO) is still terribly lacking in high quality questions. If you sort by votes it is pretty obvious. All of the long running community posts from mSO came to MSE, and some of them had a wealth of knowledge.

I am thinking of reproducing with citation some of the meta posts as wiki on mSO from MSE.

Does this seem like I should raise it as a question at mSO or MSE first?

I couldn't find a flag for "please duplicate this question" :)

Frank

4:41 PM

wat

not very nice to blondes...

Travis J

Then why post it?

Frank

I post a lot of stuff.

see, awesome and irrefutable reasoning ^^

(jk)

Travis J

Well it is more of a tautology, but I was going to let it go :P

rene

@Frank Do I need to feel bad if I admit I liked it?

Travis J

5:16 PM

I raised this issue on mSO.

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Q: meta Stack Overflow was robbed

tldr; Can we duplicate content verbatim with citation from Meta Stack Exchange that originated at meta Stack Overflow? Or is there another process to facilitate this? It is no secret that meta Stack Overflow (mSO) was "robbed" (migrated) of all of its questions - 60,000 of them. Over the course...

Frank

5:41 PM

@rene No, it was kinda funny...

Lynn Crumbling

Why is a 35.6k user posting a question like this?

^ ot-rec

Yes, it's self-answered... but it's a link.

Travis J

That is very odd.

Funny how you can accumulate a lot of reputation but still not understand the basics of question asking (that is only their 35th question).

Frank

lol

Travis J

btw, I deleted that question I asked as it seems people are really stoked to spend the next 5 years on mSO reliving the same discussions as the past 5 years.

nicael

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A: How do the various means of finding unanswered questions differ?

'Questions' section, 'unanswered' tab: 8,074. This is the section for questions that have no answers with score > 0. So some of the questions do have answers, but they have a score of 0 or less. But questions with accepted answers with score of 0 are included in this tab. 'Unanswered' secti...

Frank

5:48 PM

bug fixed 7 hours after posting? very nice. meta.stackexchange.com/questions/250574/…

nicael

and the bug (in the third point of my answer) I discovered only today :)

user259867

@nicael "But questions with accepted answers with score of 0 are included in this tab" evaluates to false

Braiam

@LynnCrumbling because they can

Jon Ericson

@TravisJ I have an answer but it would have cribbed heavily from Respect the community – your own, and others’. If you want to ask again, it might help to not load the question with the word "robbed". ;-)

Travis J

@JonEricson - Yes, the word robbed was a bad choice :( I agree.

Frank

5:51 PM

lol

Lynn Crumbling

@TravisJ I totally understand that he found a fairly canonical list and wants to tell the world about it.

Travis J

@JonEricson - So my issue raised would fall under "Cross posting: technically multi-posting, asking the same question verbatim on different sites without tailoring it to that site’s audience."? While I understand that the blog post is aimed at content in general, isn't this more of an edge case? For example, the XY problem post here on MSE.

Frank

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gunr2171

@Frank Looks like they are going to take a low pass at some crap

Travis J

@LynnCrumbling - Yeah, I get that aspect :) But that seems like it is more fitting for a blog than a self answer.

Frank

5:52 PM

@gunr2171 yeah, lol

Lynn Crumbling

@Frank THAT PICTURE WAS DOCTORED. That was originally a Plymouth Horizon behind the flatbed.. not a Porsche.

Jon Ericson

@TravisJ One of the reasons we gave SO its own meta was to increase the sense of community. While I think some of the conversations on meta would have been cut off as duplicates, most of them probably wouldn't. We see the same tired feature requests and support issues over and over again even on MSE.

Lynn Crumbling

@TravisJ Yep.. exactly.

Frank

@LynnCrumbling but it's more funny this way

how bout this

Lynn Crumbling

@Frank "or yard work" - grin

Frank

5:54 PM

:P

Lynn Crumbling

@Frank Ever look at any of the demotivational posters?

Jon Ericson

@TravisJ One of the costs of per-site metas is that every single one needs a copy of the "Why aren't downvoters required to comment?" and "How do I PM someone?" questions. As more sites grow, we are seeing more "Why are people so mean?" questions too.

Travis J

@JonEricson - And I definitely think the new direction works for new content, especially at MSE and for the network as a whole. But I feel like it was slightly at the cost of meta Stack Overflow. I think that some of the conversations can be created, or even discussed at length, but it is hard to compete with a discussion that has lasted for 6 years - especially considering the model of good content reaching the top over time.

@JonEricson - Hm, so this also pertains to other metas in some ways as well? As far as content at MSE not being as readily available at other site specific metas.

Frank

@LynnCrumbling where?

Lynn Crumbling

despair.com

check out their 2015 calendar...

one of my favorites

Travis J

5:59 PM

@JonEricson - This reminds me of a request to include MSE posts in per site meta searches and question lists.

Jon Ericson

@TravisJ Absolutely. Winter Bash was frustrating because lots of sites asked more or less the same questions. I rigged up a winterbash-2014 filter to keep track.

Lynn Crumbling

another favorite

user259867

@TravisJ I think it's easy to complete with a discussion that lasted for 6 years... an old thread with many old answers is not an attractive thing to post new answers to. I do wish that per-site metas had a tab showing MSE posts, but this is probably difficult to implement (different databases).

Jon Ericson

@TravisJ I like that idea quite a bit. If you were to post it on MSE, I'd upvote.

Maybe limited to nondiscussion?

Travis J

@JonEricson - Okay, I will write up something with no bias ;)

@JonEricson - Actually, I think this question was what I was thinking of meta.stackexchange.com/q/171655/178816

Frank

6:04 PM

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Travis J

"What I would propose is to make faq-questions on Meta.SO available on all per-site metas in some form. They should appear in search results on that per-site meta, but maybe not directly in the regular questions list but in some separate tab." from that linked post

While it uses meta.SO, it was pre split and in many ways applies still right? I just don't want to post a duplicate :P

Frank

Jon Ericson

@TravisJ Hmmm... I'll have to check with our developers to see how doable that is. I suspect the search results would be simple and a new tab would be tricky.

gunr2171

Just use jQuery, that solves everything!

Travis J

@JonEricson - I can see how the new tab would be undesirable, but perhaps just include the search results from MSE in only the "frequent" and "votes" sort tabs from per site metas?

(In addition to including them in search results in general)

Frank

6:10 PM

bummi

Is there a way to interpret this as not offensive? askubuntu.com/a/592765/184892

Lynn Crumbling

@bummi no.

Frank

@bummi why didn't you flag it?

Travis J

Well, it is rather crass. At least it isn't targeted at anyone aside from the slang used.

Would definitely flag it.

Lynn Crumbling

Probably one more.

Gone.

bummi

6:12 PM

I don't know if the used word could probably be used in a not offensive context (poor english of me :/)

Frank

@bummi now you know :P

bummi

one word more ....

Travis J

@bummi - It is usually considered derogatory.

bummi

There are words in german that were considered very rude but meanwhile part of the slang, so the uncertainty ...

Frank

@bummi well, better safe than sorry.

this is still not fixed, and annoys me every day.

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Q: Please show proper weekly/monthly etc. reputation on mobile

On mobile, if I search users by ?tab=reputation&filter=[week][month][quarter][year], the users are listed properly for the respective filters, in proper order of rep gained in that time period, but their reputation shown is their all-time rep. It would be more useful if their reputation shown act...

bug reputation mobile-web tabs

@SmokeDetector gone

Alexis King

6:27 PM

NAA stackoverflow.com/a/28861413/465378

Travis J

@AlexisKing - Looks like key presses to me, wasn't that the question? :)

Alexis King

NAA stackoverflow.com/a/8631732/465378

NAA stackoverflow.com/a/28861097/465378 and by a high-rep user, no less

Travis J

@AlexisKing That one was interesting though.

nicael

-1

A: I'm looking for a package that provides a collection of Darts reserved words

"Questions asking us to recommend or find a book, tool, software library, tutorial or other off-site resource are off-topic for Stack Overflow as they tend to attract opinionated answers and spam."

oh crap... In fact, the whole question is completely off-topic for SO.

Alexis King

@TravisJ It's also a completely false chain email copypasta.

NAA stackoverflow.com/a/28861386/465378

bummi

6:32 PM

out of delete votes ....

Braiam

@AlexisKing isn't asking for an algo ot?

user259867

Lifehacks are mentioned in today's xkcd [title text]

Alexis King

@FamousBlueRaincoat Aww, I was hoping the SE site was mentioned specifically.

Frank

lol

funny title text

gotta try that sometime

bummi

first reopen vote here: stackoverflow.com/q/28861197/1699210

Lynn Crumbling

6:41 PM

^ Why??

bummi

not from me ....

Lynn Crumbling

Yeah, I figured :)

I bet it was from the OP.

Can you vote to reopen your own question?

nicael

@FamousBlueRaincoat am I the only who can't find life hacks there...

Lynn Crumbling

Great. Now its in the reopen queue.

Alexis King

@LynnCrumbling Yes.

Travis J

6:44 PM

rude comment on the self answered question stackoverflow.com/questions/28861197/…

ProgramFOX

last flag given

Alexis King

@TravisJ gone

Lynn Crumbling

@TravisJ the "is only valid for adults"?

Ahh.. I see what's going on here.

Travis J

@LynnCrumbling - Yeah that part, it is kind of demeaning. Almost as if to say "clearly you didn't know that and only children wouldn't know this type of thing".

Lynn Crumbling

q2: stackoverflow.com/q/28861197/656243

That commentor is the author of the other q.

Travis J

6:46 PM

@LynnCrumbling - Ah you are right, there is a connection there.

Alexis King

That's sort of odd.

Lynn Crumbling

Read the comments. stackoverflow.com/users/1737201/…

Travis J

Definitely some history between the two.

Hobo Sapiens

cv-pls OP is trying to recruit teammembers: stackoverflow.com/q/28862454/1864610

Lynn Crumbling

^ spam, or no?

Andy

6:51 PM

I spammed it

I also verbed "spam"

Lynn Crumbling

ok, flagged as spam.

Hobo Sapiens

It's gone now.

Santa Claus

Hey @bjb did you get coffee or time on the PARCC?

Frank

he hates coffee

user259867

17 hours ago, by bjb568

Apparently I was inexcusably absent from by study hall that I don't have in a bell that didn't exist do to the parcc test!

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user259867

6:59 PM

The Trial of modern times.

O_O

@Mooseman - lol

7:24 PM

"Answer similar question" isn't a thing anymore

Mooseman

^^ Good.

AstroCB

Robo: stackoverflow.com/users/1383356/…

reject-plz stackoverflow.com/review/suggested-edits/7236733

SmokeDetector

7:50 PM

[ SmokeDetector ] All-caps title: ATG REST MVC FRAMEWORK 10.2 by Himaprasad Tumati on stackoverflow.com

Frank

yaawn

Lynn Crumbling

sigh

@SmokeDetector fp

SmokeDetector

@LynnCrumbling Registered question as false positive and added title to Bayesian doctype 'good'.

Lynn Crumbling

@SmokeDetector still needs to be closed - ot rec

HA stackoverflow.com/q/28863643/656243

rene

@LynnCrumbling needs one more

SmokeDetector

8:05 PM

[ SmokeDetector ] Numbers-only title: (-1)^3=(-1)^(6/2)=((-1)^6)^1/2=1^(1/2)=1 by thierry on math.stackexchange.com

Lynn Crumbling

@rene Hi Rene - thanks for letting me know about the Sandbox fix.. it was pretty surprising when I found out what the cause was!

user259867

@SmokeDetector ignore... it's math, what do you expect

SmokeDetector

@FamousBlueRaincoat Post ignored; alerts about it will no longer be posted.

AstroCB

This is bizarre: stackoverflow.com/questions/28863885/…

user259867

Failure is always an option.

Tweeted by kevinmontrose on March 3, 2015 at 1:47 AM

Lynn Crumbling

8:14 PM

@GünterZöchbauer - thanks for sharing this. Even if the SOverlords don't approve ;) — Greg Lowe 18 mins ago

^ nice! we're overlords! @gunr2171 @bummi @ProgramFOX

Jan Dvorak

\o/

gunr2171

@LynnCrumbling I always thought of myself as an overlord. Glad someone recognizes it.

also no, I don't have an ego

Braiam

@gunr2171 You need to be a lich and govern a catacomb to be considered overlord ¬_¬

shirish

does anybody know of how to track implementation of https in stackexchange sites. It seems everything is in Q&A only and just jumping around from one link to the other. Is there a publically available bug/ticket or something that can be tracked.

newbie here.

gunr2171

@shirish what do you mean by "implementation"? You want to see if they are done working on it or not?

You can start here: meta.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/ssl

shirish

8:23 PM

@gunr2171 let me share the queries I raised today which were marked duplicate . Specifically meta.stackexchange.com/questions/250599/… and meta.stackexchange.com/questions/250620/…

Frank

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A: How to subscribe for a tag on all pages

Different tags are made for each site. When you see a tag with the same name on more than one site, they're not really the same tag, they just tag that topic on that particular site. For example, the apple tag on Seasoned Advice is totally different to the apple tag on Super User. To subscribe t...

that user thinks sites == pages xD

gunr2171

@shirish so what do you want to know?

shirish

@gunr2171 where are the stackexchange sites and what is the roadmap to have compatibility with https-everywhere. The last answer seems to be about a year ago, see meta.stackexchange.com/questions/223520/… but there hasn't been any recent updates. If there are any alpha pages or sites where the stack people want regular folks to test, can be counted.

but there doesn't seem to be a way around, is there ?

gunr2171

you're right, https is not supported and the devs have been very sparse about keeping us updated with the status

shirish

it seems this blog post shares quite a bit of what is/was supposed to happen, nickcraver.com/blog/2013/04/23/… . I am going to try to see if I get something useful in the comments, once I have finished reading about what they want/ed to do.

user259867

8:31 PM

Here's how we do meetings at @StackExchange. Remote & on-site folks getting stuff done. #StackOverflow rocks remote. http://t.co/Sqshi9GY3M

Tweeted by haneycodes on March 4, 2015 at 8:12 PM

user259867

Let's see how many are recognizable around the table... Counterclockwise from the left: Fullerton, Hanlon, Montrose, Rahjerdi, ?
And I don't know what's the windowsill sitting is about.

Frank

gunr2171

@FamousBlueRaincoat isn't that Anna Lear on the windowsill on the left?

user259867

@gunr2171 I thought so too, wasn't 100% sure. Poor lighting there.

user259867

And perhaps Laura on the windowsill far away?

gunr2171

8:36 PM

possibly

user259867

Anyway, what's this "chairs for men, window sills for women" policy of SE?

gunr2171

doubtful this is an established policy

Lynn Crumbling

New question for meta: Does working at SE effectively translate into celebrity D-list or E-list status?

user259867

@LynnCrumbling W-list

Lynn Crumbling

nice.

Frank

8:38 PM

that ^

Andy

@Frank Noobs

Frank

ha

yeah

I've seen it tho

so funny

Andy

It is funny. I'm beyond that stage, so I just chuckle as I walk past

Frank

lol

I just pick the stuff I'd like to eat if I was the baby.

user259867

@FamousBlueRaincoat The last ? might be Joel?? Among the remote people: Dixon, Beavers the new designer, Craver... many too small to recognize.

user259867

8:46 PM

The most interesting part is the whiteboard, but it will take some image processing to read.

GnomeSlice

@Unihedro 4mat.bandcamp.com/album/i-know-this-ost

Frank

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A: Help us test the shiny new "User Activity" page! (Plus a bunch of new features.)

bug status-regression This was reported and marked as completed but the problem is (still? again?) here today: Clicking on Track the next one after earning a badge fails: The console tells me: Failed to load resource: the server responded with a status of 404 (Not Found) jquery.min.js...

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A: Help us test the shiny new "User Activity" page! (Plus a bunch of new features.)

status-completed - with you in the next build. When I click Track the next one after having completed a badge, I get the message: Unable to load popup - please try again The following error shows up in the console: http://meta.stackexchange.com/users/activity/badge-card/next-badge-po...

I haz that bug :(

my answer is way better: gardening.stackexchange.com/questions/17485/…

but I answered after the other answer was accepted :(

nicael

9:04 PM

@Frank meta.stackexchange.com/questions/250627/…

Frank

saw

bjb568

@SantaClaus No skewl today, many snowz

4

Braiam

@Frank U haz a bug?

Frank

@Braiam yeah, the one that was reported twice that I oneboxed

Braiam

o rly?

Frank

9:11 PM

why'dya ask?

I only get +35 on GL today. :(

nicael

@Frank so? It is possible, therefore your answer is incorrect.

Mine is... Or, maybe I am missing some point in the question?

0

A: How to subscribe for a tag over all SE sites?

Log in to http://stackexchange.com Go to http://stackexchange.com/filters/new choose your tag name your filter subscribe save changes

Santa Claus

@bjb568 Excuse my language, but fuck you.

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Frank

@nicael yeah, edited.

Sukminder

9:30 PM

I'm an artistically inspired soul with a pedant gnome fighting to get attention whilst a mood sick adrenaline junkie ride shotgun kicking the wheel by whim as the confused, short attention spanned, driver laugh and cries over the result in a wild ride trough a red forest, with tall grass!, and that pink unicorn drinking milk from a cat holding the destiny of moments left to become a memory of good or bad if they are loured to meld into the existence called my life.

bjb568

okay

5

Travis J

But how do you really feel?

Sukminder

9:46 PM

Like a panda on the back of an alligator in the spring.

Lynn Crumbling

cv-pls ot stackoverflow.com/q/28281293/656243

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector ] All-caps title: DROP ITEMS FROM SHOPPING CART BY SHOPPING CART QUOTE ID by user23134 on magento.stackexchange.com