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Rob
12:00 AM
@rene Page 27 of ^ the second link details the microphone.
 
Rob
12:15 AM
Spec sheet for the image sensor: ams.com/cmv20000#tab/documents
 
 
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1:57 AM
What's the difference between a room being "frozen for inactivity" and "deleted for inactivity"?
 
Time I think
 
it gets frozen (which is read only) then deleted (which makes it invisible to non mods)
 
I'm a non-mod and I saw a room with the message that it was deleted for inactivity.
 
I'd poke at meta, I'm sure the exact details are there
hm, that makes 2
 
 
1 hour later…
3:08 AM
stackoverflow.com/company/work-here/2351469/… looks like they have another opening
though I'm unfamiliar with what a staff CM is
 
Make me CM. I will destroy you all. >:D
>that url
>406 Not Acceptable
how rood, nginx
 
@TheforestofReinstateMonica there's an opening
All you need is 3-5 years of experience. Go apply
 
https://stackoverflow.com/posts/46344443/revisions

has the post history view always page-stretched horizontally like that?

I couldn't figure out why the diff was not showing correctly.... I had to scroll way to the right.
 
3:30 AM
@TheforestofReinstateMonica if it meets a certain threshold of past activity, it's considered to be valuable enough to retain and gets frozen instead of deleted; if that threshold isn't met it's deleted
 
@Mithical Then why can I see it if I'm not a mod?
 
deleted chat rooms are visible to 10k users
(aggregated rep, same as flags)
 
 
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@JourneymanGeek Cross-site spammer (on sites you moderate): stackexchange.com/users/20784987/anchal-kapoor
 
6:51 AM
@pkamb it's due to the code blocks, they don't wrap on purpose, as it might break the code when copied and pasted.
We don't want people blaming SO for critical bugs.... ;)
 
@pkamb my instinct is "no," I think this used to behave the way you'd expect, but I'm not certain. Maybe an artifact of the CommonMark migration?
 
@Mithical yeah, think it's less than three overall users in a week.
@RyanM it used to wrap even code blocks?? If so, it was a bug, IMO.
 
No, I'd assume it used scrollbars, like it does everywhere else (for example, on that question)
 
ohhhhhh
wait
The whole page now has the scrollbar... duh.
Yeah, it used to be only in the code block. bangs head on screen
So yes, bug report is due.
 
7:41 AM
I think they changed the layout of that page. Usually the first post would be in one of two columns, now it's stretched over the 2 columns
@Sha regarding Staff badges, IIRC Nick Craver is the one to do that, but they are on Sabatical
 
@Rob it is going to beam back some awesome images and it only just has began to do so
 
Does anyone else strike it as odd that you hire new team mangers from the outsides, when there are plenty of capable people on the CM team?
I also wonder how large the CM team will become, when there is one Director and 3 managers
If you devide the 5 CM's that arent managers over 3 managers, there is less then 2 people to manage per manager
hardly in need of a manager IMHO
 
8:04 AM
I have the impression a lot of roles acquire the title "manager" without actually managing stuff like a project manager does. At least I hope that is the explanation.
Much like every software engineer likes to call themselves "architect".
 
8:30 AM
55 messages moved to Chimney
 
8:51 AM
@rene What? No way.
 
@rene I thought architects designed buildings. I wouldn't trust a software engineer with that. We'd all get those DDR style apartment blocks then ;)
 
@JNat Is this something that'll just happen, or should there be a meta post first? ;)
 
@Luuklag if you are an architect by profession then you have all the rights to be upset seeing these low-brow information-architect, process-architect, performance-architect and worse of all lead-architect job titles.
 
very much agreed @rene
 
9:21 AM
Any diamonds around? It's not urgent.
 
@JNat another one for the backlog of cross site spammers: stackexchange.com/users/20218482/sakshingo?tab=accounts
 
10:08 AM
@Xnero I have approximate 3 minutes, 17 seconds... what's up?
 
@Tinkeringbell Can you please remove the star on this message? I starred it by accident and I only want to keep specific things starred. Thanks.
 
Gone :)
 
Thanks! :)
 
@Tinkeringbell I was gonna bring it up internally before making any changes. Doing so may end up in starting a conversation on MSE, so if you wanna get a head-start on that, you certainly can ^_^
 
@Xnero Next time, you can do it yourself ;) You're a room owner of that room :P
 
10:11 AM
@Tinkeringbell Nope, there was no button to do so. Is there supposed to be?
 
@JNat Well I don't think I have the time for it right now, I was just wondering if anyone was still doing anything, or if it was entirely dead :D
@Xnero Not on the message itself, but in the starboard itself :)
 
@Tinkeringbell Oh sorry. At least I know for next time :-)
 
Try cancelling the one I just left ;)
Great, looks like you figured it out ;)
 
Thanks, sorry about that.
 
No worries :)
 
10:15 AM
@JNat and another cross site spammer for the backlog: stackexchange.com/users/19198808/nicole-cmie?tab=accounts
 
@Luuklag was discussing it elsewhere 😁
The most optimistic theory is it provides a framework for future expansion without drawing away too many CMs
I don't recall a specific ad for the job either
 
@JourneymanGeek I don't find that odd. When we hire people in our company we might have an opening for position A, but if the applicant is really more suited for position B we would hire them for that. Even if there is no explicit offering for position B, but we could do with some extra hands there.
 
@Tinkeringbell yeah, as I typed that message I realized maybe you just wanted to make sure we didn't bypass discussion before editing the tags ;)
 
@JNat Whahaha no... I wanted to know if anyone was going to edit the tags :P
(or at least still thinking about it)
 
@Xnero not sure if you're into userscripts but I have created one that allows removing stars from the transcript, in case you want to remove stars that are no longer on the starboard: meta.stackexchange.com/a/270121
 
10:26 AM
@rene I'll take a look, thanks.
 
10:46 AM
editing a post with a stack snippet while being opt-in on the Alpha Editor isn't a good idea ...
 
YOU FOOL! YOU HAVE DOOMED US ALL?
(I mean ow...)
 
Well, yes. it first refused to fix my link and once I gave in and removed the troublesome url parts I noticed my stack snippet was no longer a correct stack snippet. I had to edit in the language parts again.
But it is mentioned in the announcement post that snippets are not supported. Me not being able to read or remember crucial info is the real problem here.
 
 
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12:38 PM
Hey everyone, please welcome @Ayo!
 
Hi Ayo
(psst, @YaakovEllis, you're late, he's already been here :D )
 
I know. Just be nice, ok?
 
@YaakovEllis You don't have to tell that to Geek.
 
I am just showing @Ayo some of the sites, and recommended this as a good place to hang out with users
6
 
Ayo
12:41 PM
@JourneymanGeek Haha, hey Journeyman 👋 Great to see you here :)
 
@Ayo I'm always here :D
(well not always, but I tend to be in/around the chatrooms of the sites I'm active on :D )
 
Ayo
@JourneymanGeek Hehehe
@JourneymanGeek That's awesome! Looking forward to seeing you around every day all year, haha
 
@YaakovEllis Is that a hint for everyone to be on their best behaviour? ;-)
 
@MadScientist a very subtle hint
 
Don't expect any sharp messages from me ...
 
12:46 PM
only blur ones?
 
yep
 
@rene How long do you think you can keep that up?
 
until someone figures out how to use autofocus?
 
till sint juttemus
 
@rene I'll keep you to that :P
 
12:54 PM
Yes, I expected that ...
 
Rob
@JourneymanGeek Maybe they only advertised in Germany. :)
 
You mean india, but then that would be a german speaking CM :D
 
Rob
Dec 9 '20 at 21:17, by Mad Scientist
@JourneymanGeek Maybe they could put that German-speaking fellow in India on that, once they're hired ;-)
 
1:09 PM
@JourneymanGeek you became part of the furniture here ;)
 
What kind of furniture would Geek be?
 
the dog
 
Where do you prefer to sit and/or sleep? On which piece of furniture?
 
in Root Access on The Stack Exchange Network Chat, Feb 15 '17 at 14:56, by Journeyman Geek
I'm part of under the furniture ;p
hm
 
Could be comfy, I suppose
 
1:20 PM
that's an old joke :D
 
I hope there is carpet on the floor ;)
 
@JourneymanGeek Thats on the furniture, not under ;)
 
I need to find a photo under the bed, but Ash hasn't been able to go there lately, his old legs
 
Ash really looks old in that picture.
 
1:26 PM
He is really old
 
How old is he/she/they?
 
He's almost 16
 
Yeah thats quite old for a dog
Hope you can enjoy his company a lot longer
 
Actually one of the reasons I'm trying to swap jobs is the current job dosen't leave me that much time with him
 
@JourneymanGeek :/
@Luuklag see comment(s) ;)
!!/summon Snow
 
1:37 PM
@ShadowWizardisVaccinating No such command 'summon'.
 
wait, wrong dog
 
@JourneymanGeek huh?? lol
You have more dogs?
 
@ShadowWizardisVaccinating the GSD is my cousin's dog
 
oh
Global Search Dog?
Great Swedish Dog?
 
1:42 PM
@ShadowWizardisVaccinating German Shepherd Dog, IIRC ;)
 
oh
As usual, low chances that I can guess those...
 
that's two of them
 
@ShadowWizardisVaccinating They're pretty, but in my experience can also be very noisy.
 
@JourneymanGeek two out of... how many? ;)
 
Especially if they get bored, and they're pretty high energy dogs.
 
1:43 PM
(@ShadowWizardisVaccinating there were 4 - 3 streetdogs and the GSD
parvo claimed one
 
@Tinkeringbell any dog can be very noise... :P
@JourneymanGeek who's parvo?
 
@Tinkeringbell this one is chill
 
@ShadowWizardisVaccinating its a disease - affects puppies
 
@ShadowWizardisVaccinating True :P It's a particular kind of noisy, the heavy barks of a big dog vs the annoying higher pitched ones of a smaller one :P
 
1:44 PM
so they're down to 3 :(
 
@g3rv4 how's your daughter? Any better?
 
@JourneymanGeek Sweet :)
 
@Tinkeringbell he's usually fairly quiet. tends to amuse himself hunting coconuts
 
hunting?
Weird coconuts.
 
@JourneymanGeek bumps into a coconuts tree, make them fall and playing with them?
@JourneymanGeek oh, sorry to hear...
 
1:46 PM
he waits for them to fall, picks em up and piles them up upstairs
 
@JourneymanGeek lol, he also drinks from them once someone opens it up?
 
nope
I think he's herding them :D
 
Coconut doesn't have a shape easy to grab, no?
 
but it burns off a lot of energy
He's got big jaws :D
 
i.e. it's not really round.
My brother's dog love to hunt down hedgehogs.
 
1:49 PM
@ShadowWizardisVaccinating 0_0
 
I don't think he kills them, just bark on them for hours, not letting them move, until he gets tired and let them go away.
Used to do it in the past, not sure if still doing it, worth asking my brother sometime. ;)
 
one of my gran's old dogs was a born ratter
 
Mom's neighbour friend sometimes brought her daughter's pomeranian over ... the little fuzzball was terrified of our rabbit XD
 
@Tinkeringbell was it a heir of caerbannog?
 
1:57 PM
@JourneymanGeek Nah. Our rabbit was a Hollander :)
 
2:07 PM
@Tinkeringbell LOL
 
2:25 PM
@ShadowWizardisVaccinating yeah, she didn't add any symptoms so officially not covid suspected... now, I'm still a bit worried about an unexplained fever, but we'll keep monitoring her. Thanks for asking :)
 
Our cats got spooked yesterday when there was a swan at our front door
fighting its reflection in the glass xD
@ShadowWizardisVaccinating Thx for the ping
 
2:41 PM
@g3rv4 cheers, and while not a doctor, I can tell you that both our daughters had fever many times when young (until age of 3), usually just for one day, and it just went away all on its own. So looks like it's just something that happens, no need to worry too much. You give her something to lower the fever? (e.g. syrup)
 
@ShadowWizardisVaccinating yup yup, only once and that was enough
 
@Luuklag lol! You know the cucumber trick with cats? Funny, but not so nice to do...
@Luuklag pong
 
@ShadowWizardisVaccinating Yeah I laugh about the vids, but find it kinda cruel at the same time
@ShadowWizardisVaccinating ping
 
@g3rv4 good. Hope she'll be back to sleeping full nights and running around the house during day soon. :D
@Luuklag exactly
 
@ShadowWizardisVaccinating <3
 
2:43 PM
Cat jumping five feet into the air is funny, but... doesn't feel right.
 
@ShadowWizardisVaccinating same here, just use some kids "paracetamol" (asprin in english?) and usually they feel much better the next day. Could be just some flu they picked up somewhere
 
@Luuklag paracetamol and aspirin are two different drugs
 
@Luuklag yeah, it comes here as syrup with several possible flavors, or for older kids (3+ I think) also as a powder you can just give them to eat.
 
@Luuklag good to read :) we're new parents and this is the first... unaccounted fever... we've seen. To me, it rings an "infection, infection" scary bell
 
@g3rv4 no no... all good. Put those alarm bells down. :)
@MadScientist yeah, and aspirin isn't for kids.
 
2:47 PM
Paracetamol is seriously dangerous when overdosed, very safe when not. I assume you have to be careful with children with the dose because they are much smaller
 
@g3rv4 check the toddler for rash on her body, we once had case of fever and rash, turned out to be some nasty virus that required antibiotics. But otherwise, nothing to worry about if it's just fever.
 
@MadScientist good to know, here everything just kinda goes by the same name.
@ShadowWizardisVaccinating here we have those pills for rectal use, work really fast
@MadScientist yeah usually they have doses just for kids
@g3rv4 when in doubt just call your GP, their more then happy to tell you not to worry too much. And if there's any reason for concern theylll tell you to come over.
 
@MadScientist sure, it always come with a precise measure spoon, must follow the orders according to the kid's weight.
 
you have to be careful about combination meds that also contain paracetamol, which is not that uncommon.
 
@Luuklag yup yup, we did that :) and that was exactly what they said :)
 
2:50 PM
@g3rv4 cool :) You'l llearn to understand your kid better with age, untill you no longer understand them I guess xD
 
@Luuklag never used those, it just feels... terrible, not something I want to do to my kids, though it's only mental, I know it doesn't really hurt. Luckily we were always able to give the syrup, somehow.
 
So you have a feeling what's normal and whats not.
@ShadowWizardisVaccinating I don't know if we even have Syrup here.
 
@Luuklag sure you have... at least for 6+ months.
 
@ShadowWizardisVaccinating never noticed it in shops, ill have a look next time I order groceries
 
It's not in ordinary shops.
Only pharmacy.
@M.A.R. surely know, his parents own one. ;)
 
2:52 PM
Our supermarket also has a pharmacy brand they combined in the webshop
 
@Luuklag oh, neat. But does it have full inventory, like "actual' pharmacy?
Might have partial items only.
 
@ShadowWizardisVaccinating anything that isn't prescription meds
 
@Luuklag I see. So yeah it should have syrup for kids.
 
yeah google told me it exists here as well
 
2:54 PM
different pharmacy, but they probably carry it everyhwere
 
So next time, no rectal stuff please. :P
The syrup also affects pretty fast, about 10-20 minutes.
 
I don't know if I'll get my kids to take it. I had to give them Antibiotics as syrup, was a real struggle
the're still pink spot on some walls
 
@Luuklag struggle indeed, but it's worth the efforts, IMO.
@Luuklag LOL
Just promise to give them chocolate if they take it.
 
The package stated raspberry flavour, but it didn't taste a bit like it
 
Works for one daughter for me, not the other.
 
2:57 PM
@ShadowWizardisVaccinating they just turned 2, so their not really that bribe-able
 
@Luuklag lol of course it's not, it tastes like medicine. ;)
 
Would work for our 4yo, but she can deduct a bit more. So she knows she has to take it to get rid of X. So then she no longer objects
 
@Luuklag hmm... yeah that's tough.
So only by force, trying to make it gentle.
Also the 4 y/o might help with the twins, assuming they adore her already. :D
 
@ShadowWizardisVaccinating She feels like shes their mother
@ShadowWizardisVaccinating yeah, using a syringe, holding their mouth shut untill they swallow
Not the nicest thing to do, but its for their own good
 
3:21 PM
BTW anyone knows if Catija is having a warm home again?
Heard they were having a hard time lately
with that snow
 
in TX?
or
 
@user400654 yup
 
most of the people i know from there have power, but are under a boil water advisory
 
@Luuklag situation seems improved but I'm not sure its my place to say more than that
 
@JourneymanGeek nah that's cool. Could be she dropped a few lines somewere publicly, but other then that I just hope their okay :)
 
3:37 PM
Hah I see Yaakov saved the new hires the trouble of having to create their own accounts network wide
There goes there initiation rite ;)
 
I know that Ayo manually joined each site. I do not know if Rosie did.
 
Hello. I also manually joined each site. I also wanted to say hello. I'm excited to be here.
5
 
Hi! We're excited to have you here. Glad you also went through initiation ;)
 
3:53 PM
*waves to @Rosie*
Standard welcome: We don't bite. Except for @JourneymanGeek, he bites.
 
@Rosie ugh. They really need to fix that 🤣
@Mithical only the deserving
 
🚽
 
^this is our resident toilet-poster
 
(we have no idea what it means either)
 
I'm not thirsty enough to find out
 
3:57 PM
I can't figure out if I should call you a good dog or bad dog for that statement.
 
Oh hey @Rosie! Welcome! :)
 
@Luuklag good! But no worry it will change drastically before you notice..... ;(
 
Rob
@JourneymanGeek
Feb 17 at 19:38, by JNat
no script needed
 
@Luuklag indeed. You're a practiced parent, I see. :P
 
4:07 PM
@Rob meh 🤣
 
@Luuklag oh my, she's in Texas?? They had terrible couple of weeks, yeah.
@Rosie hello! Nice to meet you. :)
@Mithical dogs drinking from toilets is not bad, dog do what dogs gotta do.
:D
(dog owner should always remember to flush though)
 
Rob
Worse if the power bill is a variable plan with wholesale pricing.
 
@Rob sounds like USA
 
Rob
Freedom of choice.
 
Here we have one single company that generates and sells electricity.
 
Rob
4:11 PM
Choose fixed rate, if you prefer.
 
Surprisingly enough, the prices are sane and blackouts are rare.
 
Rob
That is surprising, Govt regulated?
 
@Rob yeah. More like "bottomless pit of costs that the government must cover to keep it alive".
 
Rob
So, cheap electricity; higher taxes.
 
When you don't care a bit if you're going to owe billions, knowing it will be given, you just don't bother to try and save.
@Rob won't call it cheap, rather "sane".
I think? Average family of 5 pays about $200 per month for electricity. Is it high? Low? Dunno to be honest. @Rob
 
Rob
4:14 PM
I thought that was the borrowing strategy of a different country; I guess it's a popular financial model.
 
Another huge downside is the absolute power given to the company employees. They can demand whatever salary and bonuses they want, and they'll get it, because otherwise they'll bring Israel back to the Stone Age.
 
Rob
@ShadowWizardisVaccinating I live in the dark, like any cat can see in the dark too, and only use electricity for essential things like electronics, cooking and coffee. - My bill (one person) is average $25 per month.
So, it's high but not the highest.
 
@Rob that's... good? :)
You do it just to save money, or also to keep our planet bit more clean? @Rob
 
@ShadowWizardisVaccinating a good chunk of the country works that way, but texas is one area that doesn't, :p
 
@ShadowWizardisVaccinating @terdon @JourneymanGeek @Mithical and everyone else ;)

Thank you for the warm welcome. 👋 I hope everyone is doing well.
 
4:22 PM
@Rosie yes, and if you want anything, just ping and ask. As others can tell, I love pings. :-)
 
@ShadowWizardisVaccinating you do?
 
@JourneymanGeek 🐶 + 🚽 = 🗞️
 
*squints* Is that a coffin?
 
@Mithical Eeeek! No!
newspaper
rolled up newspaper, to be precise.
 
Aha. Computer doesn't play nice with emojis :P
 
4:28 PM
@rene I do
 
@Mithical yeah, neither does mine. One of my favorite features of this system, actually. I just see:
 
looks like some kind of pill
 
@terdon dog drinking from toilets then bringing newspaper?
 
💊
 
Rob
4:29 PM
@ShadowWizardisVaccinating If you want to save move to where electricity is nearly free:
 
@ShadowWizardisVaccinating No, and keep your lazy fantasies to yourself! :P
"Dogs who drink from the toilet get punished" was the idea.
 
@user400654 when in doubt, zoom in! :D
 
i mean
 
I call animal abuse
 
that still seems quite pill like
 
4:31 PM
Looks a little clearer in black and white, oddly enough
 
@Rob I'll keep that in mind. :)
 
Not much though. That looks like a leg of ham to me.
 
@terdon oh lol
@user400654 click the image to see full size
 
📰
 
@terdon that is what the dog would prefer ...
 
4:32 PM
heh, true dat
 
Rob
@terdon 🐅💦🚽 = 🐕🍹
@ShadowWizardisVaccinating Not everyone has the same emojis, and occasionally they are drastically different and don't translate.
 
@ShadowWizardisVaccinating IIRC she is.
Heard her say something about spending time in her car to stay warm I think. Must be somewhere in the logs here
 
4:53 PM
@Rob If the toilet contains tiger piss, the dog considers that a great cocktail?
 
Rob
✔️
 
yay! Communication, it is happening.
 
It's definitely happening. Can't say much else, though...
 
Rob
Cats use the toilet (after training), and frequently flush; while some dogs drink from the toilet - not heard of them sitting.
 
I would hope they'd use the shower after training instead.
Aaaaaand, I'll show myself out.
 
4:56 PM
:rolled_up_newspaper:
 
Rob
So it begs the question: If the cat didn't flush would the dog drink?
 
@Luuklag Twitter said she's back on flipflops now though ;)
 
5:10 PM
@Luuklag gone
 
@Tinkeringbell good!
 
@Luuklag gone
 
@Rob depends what the cat ate?
 
@RyanM gone
@Luuklag gone
I thought we were playing a game, @ShadowWizardisVaccinating, and that you'd be interspersing my messages with yours... ;P
@SonictheCuriouserHedgehog gone
@Ollie gone
@Luuklag gone
 
@JNat oh lol I didn't even notice... :D
I just cleared my own ping backlog. ;)
(or in that case, messages I could reply to)
 
5:21 PM
@Luuklag gone
 
;)
@Luuklag gone
and that was the last of that
 
Nice! No more weeks worth of backlog? :P
dang... headache is back, it beat the pill... :(
Maybe vaccine symptom?
 
5:38 PM
@ShadowWizardisVaccinating been trying to keep on top of it ;)
when there's only a couple, it's easy to go "heh, can take care of those two later"
but suddenly they turn into 20 ;)
 
They breed like rabbits...
 
they sprout like mushrooms
wonders if mushrooms sprout, or if some other term is more appropriate
 
I think mushrooms always magically appear overnight. so 'pop up'? ;)
 
sounds legit
 
That reminds me... I saw no mushrooms at all this year :(
I guess the garden was too dry this year.
 
5:57 PM
@Tinkeringbell this, or @Journeyman ate all the shrooms...
 
🐇
 
@user400654 The bunny is long dead, and didn't eat any mushrooms, strangely enough.
@ShadowWizardisVaccinating I should dog-proof my own garden then, was thinking of getting a moss/shroom patch.
 
@Tinkeringbell just spread something dogs don't like.... ;)
 
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