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7:06 AM

@JourneymanGeek why did you roll back Sonic's edit to the dupe faq from back in August?

> If, on the other hand, you don't believe the question is a duplicate, then go ahead and answer it, and consider editing the question to make it clear how it's different.

Don't you think that's correct? ^

Sonic the Anonymous Hedgehog

1 hour ago, by Sonic the Anonymous Hedgehog

Because editing an question to fit an answer for deduplication purposes is poor advise, especially for newer users. It might be possible people removed it from earlier drafts for a reason — Journeyman Geek ♦ 10 mins ago

He already answered that question

Journeyman Geek

@andmyself 2 clicks

@ShadowWizard no ^^^^^^^^^

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Manually reported answer (94): Creating wordpress user registration form by kelvin on wordpress.SE

Journeyman Geek

@SonictheAnonymousHedgehog eh. It speeds things up. And makes a wonderful THUNK

@JourneymanGeek I disagree then. That sentence stands by itself, I for example had no idea Sonic added it just to "fit in answer so he can close as dupe". It's not really relevant why someone edits a faq post (or any post actually), as long as the edit is good and adding correct information.

And faq answer should cover as much as possible.

7:13 AM

3

Q: Where did the "E" in Salesforce go?

To whom should I reach to fix it? Looks like SVG is a bit problematic SVG URL : https://cdn.sstatic.net/Sites/salesforce/img/logo.svg?v=b2886f87beec

Sonic the Anonymous Hedgehog

@ShadowWizard I don't see where in that comment he made a statement about my motive. He disagrees with your assertion that it's "good and correct information".

Right, @JourneymanGeek?

Journeyman Geek

@ShadowWizard well on my reading it was bad advice

Especially if someone isn't totally aware of how to do so.

@SonictheAnonymousHedgehog oh, I thought by "editing an question to fit an answer for deduplication purposes" he meant your edit.

Journeyman Geek

It's CW so I can't use intent as a benchmark on it's own but the suggestion dosen't seem useful

(since you do vote to close a lot of questions as dupe of faq posts)

Journeyman Geek

7:16 AM

@ShadowWizard I rolled back to remove the suggestion that folks do that

Sonic the Anonymous Hedgehog

@ShadowWizard But it's been a long time since I edited an FAQ answer just to close another question as a dupe.

Journeyman Geek

Closing other questions as dupes shouldn't be a goal anyway

Rather that the faq would be more useful with that information

@JourneymanGeek well, I still think that's a valid advice but meh... not strongly enough to ~~fight~~ keep arguing over this. :)

Sonic the Anonymous Hedgehog

cv-pls meta.stackexchange.com/questions/318667/…

@andmyself so you really woke up and went to the office?

7:23 AM

@ShadowWizard I did :(

Oddly enough, I also remember part of my dream of last night (it's pretty rare, usually I don't remember anything)... it wasn't really vivid, in the dream I changed my baby diaper and got my clothes dirty without noticing, discovered it only when arriving to work (in the dream). Think then I was woken up, that's why I probably remember. ;)

I even once had a deja vu inside a dream...

@andmyself it's like installing Minecraft on CPU inside Minecraft! :D gamesradar.com/guy-makes-minecraft-playing-computer-minecraft

Journeyman Geek

@ShadowWizard tbh... I have totally seen it being done and it was messy

7:48 AM

Coffee?

morning

!!/coffee

@Mithrandir brews a cup of Cappuccino for @Mithrandir

delv-pls 20K pr0blam meta.stackexchange.com/q/318656/158100 (needs 1 more) /cc @ShadowWizard @Glorfindel @Bart

!!/coffee rene

7:51 AM

@Mithrandir brews a cup of Mocha for @rene

\o/

should add an easter egg - give the bot a very small chance to reply with "brews a cup of Java for ..."

there is already is jQuery in that code-path ...

inb4 Java != JavaScript...

@JourneymanGeek example?

@rene nuked by diamond. I wonder what sound it should make. KABOOM doesn't sound right. Ideas? ;)

8:02 AM

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword with email in answer (86): How to post comments on websites without being traced back by Sandra william on security.SE

@Derpy already got jQuery... and blame got a Jeff, so... :)

sd k

if diamond is the hardest(?) element, and roaches are the most survivable creatures, then what will diamond roaches be...

@andmyself JavaScript.indexOf("Java") is 0 though.

user image

@ShadowWizard thanks, but I'm afraid one-boxing that might scare anyone ;)

But... diamonds!

Story time. Once upon a time, a person who was a government minister was arrested for crimes of bribe and corruption. He served few years in prison, got out, and elected to become a minister again. Then did exactly those crimes again and now facing a new trial and probably longer time in prison. Sounds real of fictional? ;)

This requires...

!!/coffee

8:09 AM

@ShadowWizard brews a cup of Espresso for @ShadowWizard

@SmokeDetector thanks

@ShadowWizard woosh

@rene hmm... sounds too "gentle"

maybe... KAWOOSH!

blast

Better than woosh, but still.. missing some "KA"

8:11 AM

@ShadowWizard sounds like SE suspension...

@andmyself LOL!!!

haha, you're so right...

@ShadowWizard not nuked, migrated ...

@rene nope.

> deleted by Nicol Bolas, rene, Journeyman Geek♦ 10 mins ago

@andmyself brittle.

@ShadowWizard huh: electronics.stackexchange.com/questions/408188/…

8:16 AM

@rene that's a different question than the one you asked to del-vote. :)

Oh ...

Still need moar Coffee

!!/coffee reno

@andmyself brews a cup of Latte for @reno

@andmy you appear to need coffee yourself, calling @rene after a car brand... ;)

!!/coffee andmy

@ShadowWizard brews a cup of Americano for @andmy

8:20 AM

oh it's Renault, no Reno... blames Hebrew

Reno is city in Nevada. Oh well. :D

@ShadowWizard Renault ...

> Reno is a city in the U.S. state of Nevada by the Sierra Nevadas and Lake Tahoe. Dubbed “The Biggest Little City in the World,” it's known for its casinos and its proximity to many ski resorts. Downtown’s National Automobile Museum showcases more than 200 vintage cars. The MidTown District is lined with shops and restaurants. North of downtown, Animal Ark is a sanctuary for rescued bears, cheetahs and other wildlife.

I drive a Twingo ...

@rene isn't it that small car?

hehe @rene driving a Renault. Priceless. ;)

@BART you happen to drive one of those?

user image

:P

@ShadowWizard yes, I don't need a big car. And I only use it once or twice a week.

In Suisse every citizen have their own train ...

8:25 AM

@rene makes sense. I also had a small car when I was without a family of my own, Daihatsu Charade.

1000cc engine, but it reached 140 km/h when I needed to. ;)

cv-pls discussion off-topic I can not understand how a Learning algorithm can build classifier in a paper “The Foundation of Cost-Sensitive Learning” - Sungyun Park‎ - 2018-11-22 08:13:03Z

Shree gone

Thanks.

Sonic the Anonymous Hedgehog

@ShadowWizard I took a ride on that during my trip to the SF Bay Area

@JourneymanGeek when you migrate away from MSE to proper site, maybe better also retag it on the other site? Or do you prefer to leave that to OP/mod on that other site?

8:27 AM

@ShadowWizard yep, and cheaper in petrol costs

@SonictheAnonymousHedgehog so, you rode Bart. Neat. ;)

@ShadowWizard what, oh my, no, don't imagine...

Journeyman Geek

69

Q: Differences between Cherry mechanical keyboard switches?

I want a comfortable, responsive mechanical switch keyboard. My only concern about mechanical switch keyboards is the noise. Boards based off of the Cherry MX Blue seem to be the loudest, but apparently offer increased tactility. I don't mind a clicky noise (I would actually prefer a bit of noise...

@rene actually not really.. maybe because I bought an old car to begin with.

Journeyman Geek

@ShadowWizard ehh ya

Should have

8:28 AM

@andmyself too late!

@JourneymanGeek never too late.... ;)

heh that came weird in conjuction. :D

@JourneymanGeek what about it?

Journeyman Geek

Check out the edit history. Also there's a meta post

Oh BTW do you now get a new hat? @Journeyman

@JourneymanGeek edit war with Jeff? lol

Journeyman Geek

4

Q: I'd like to get the question on mechanical keyboards opened

I'd admit at this point of time that i'm apparently the resident keyboard geek and i have a bias towards getting this question reopened, and this is a blatant attempt to get it some attention, and comments arn't large enough for my reasons. The reason the question was closed was it was 'localise...

Now you can roll back to your edit safely and if Jeff starts a war again... you know what to do.... ;)

Journeyman Geek

Naw. I don't think you get a new hay

Hat

8:32 AM

lol

Journeyman Geek

Not sure what a MSE mod rates swagwise. Didn't even think about it

Ticket to SE company tour

Free card game

Journeyman Geek

I think the important bit is to work out how to look like I know what I'm doing :p

eh

I don't think any of the three new mse mods are controversial

Journeyman Geek

8:41 AM

@Magisch I don't think anyone thinks so

I'm having trouble parsing that

too many negatives

Well, I think Chris made a mistake closing Evan's question, it does seek input and even got a good reply. But... not about to start a drama over this.

(did vote to reopen.)

...asked the first question in what might be a series of feature-requests about improving the keyboard shortcuts...

:)

Journeyman Geek

@Magisch I do not think that anyone thinks that it's a bad idea

8:47 AM

ahh, ok

Gotta get used to you in blue geek

Journeyman Geek

Actually I suspect they're fairly safe bets :p

@Magisch I do too. I didn't realise it would be this fast

Yay! Morning!

Journeyman Geek

Hi!

@JourneymanGeek no swag? XD

morning

8:51 AM

I thought appointments didn't earn swag

gotta get used to you in blue here too tink

@Magisch I haven't seen myself in blue yet : P

So much blue here.... :D

Still on mobile

Journeyman Geek

@Tinkeringbell idk. I didn't think to ask

8:53 AM

user image

yw

:D

Hahaha thanks!

Journeyman Geek

In typical fashion my acceptance was 2 lines

@Tink so do you want to be included in the plz-delete @rene and me post here sometimes, now that you can actually delete those? :)

This tavern make like Eiffel now

@ShadowWizard It's something most regulars have advocated for for a long time, joyous to finally get some community mods on here

@Magisch ?

@Magisch agree

8:56 AM

Blue (Da Ba Dee)

"Blue (Da Ba Dee)" is a song by Italian music group Eiffel 65. It was first released in October 1998 in Italy and became internationally successful the following year. It is the lead single of their debut album Europop. The song is the group's most popular single, reaching number one in many countries such as Ireland, the United Kingdom, the Netherlands, France, Sweden, Switzerland, New Zealand, Finland, Norway, Australia, Germany and Hungary, as well as reaching number six on the Billboard Hot 100 in the United States.In the United Kingdom, the song originally entered the top 40 purely on import...

oh lol

New Order - Blue Monday

This may be a small thing in the grand scheme of things, but things are looking up when positive change happens so \o/

\o/

Journeyman Geek

@Magisch hopefully. If nothing else it's a slightly taller soapbox

I'm more ecstatic about off topic cruft and spam being gone faster on meta

And this is bound to relieve some however small measure of strain on the CM team

9:05 AM

Nah that's minor side effect IMO, those are gone quickly anyway. I see this step as rebuilding the trust between SE and their users, even if it was planned long ago.

Plus, flags. I can finally flag again. :D

in any case, strictly positive

SE++

2

Q: I'm entitled to a cheese board? Really?

I'm sure you know about all the cheesy happenings here on Meta. I understood that only the top 25 answers would receive a cheese board. Mine did not come close to the top 25. Yesterday I received an email from JNat saying Hello there! You're receiving this because your answer on this Me...

discussion swag 10th-anniversary

hehe in Hebrew it's called שאלת קיטבג. /cc @Mithrandir ;)

Journeyman Geek

@Magisch and we can deal with some flags

You get a cheese board, YOU get a cheese board, EVERYONE GETS A CHEESE BOARD

@ShadowWizard the "we could only order in batch of 50 pieces" is still the best guess

9:10 AM

@JourneymanGeek say, did you have those in your army?

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that's a קיטבג ^ :D

Journeyman Geek

Ya

option b.... did your form by any chance include a "credit card number" field?

@Magisch I haven't been asked if i wanted a cheese board or something else yet

Journeyman Geek

We switched to better ones though

@JourneymanGeek lol so you really copied everything from us...... :P

9:10 AM

@Mithrandir I think they dropped the option.

Journeyman Geek

@ShadowWizard yup

*shrugs* that'd be a question for JNat and / or Tim Post

@Derpy ooooops... seeing a $10000 withdraw

@JourneymanGeek oh... we didn't. Yet. I think. Not sure. lol

Journeyman Geek

I use the old one for my boots and helmet and the new wheeled onw for stuff

@JourneymanGeek what?? You get to keep it? lol... we didn't, had to give it back when finishing army.

Journeyman Geek

9:12 AM

dgsoldiertalk.com/hauler-duffel-bag.html

@ShadowWizard we got to keep it

Lucky bas****! :D :D

Journeyman Geek

Mine seems used though

Actually, better not keep it in my case.... it was torn, dirty, full with oil etc. :D

that's what you get when pushing it inside a mobile gun...

anyway, we got to keep only one set of uniform and the army boots.

Journeyman Geek

Lol

We kept all of that

My old uniform is too small and obsolete

I keep a set for painting (shhhhh)

"You paint like a soldier, sir!"

Journeyman Geek

9:16 AM

@Mithrandir it's full sleeved and comfy

I have to figure out what's happening with my army service....

Journeyman Geek

And soldiers paint a lot

@Mithrandir medical condition?

@JourneymanGeek we painted on the rockets we launched sometimes.

possibly

Journeyman Geek

@ShadowWizard they used to touch up vehicles with lead based green paint

9:18 AM

going to (hopefully) get a letter from the allergist in December, and then I have to figure out if I want to volunteer

Journeyman Geek

I love the color when it faded. It was a pinkish green

@Mithrandir here they would probably find you a desk job.

volunteering has some benefits, like... they have to give you a position you're satisfied with

but it's at least a 3 year commitment

Journeyman Geek

Basically the only way to get out of the army here is complete utter violent insanity

@Mithrandir how long is it otherwise?

@Mithrandir what are you allergic to? My brother has a deadly allergy to mango fruit and yet got 72 profile and served as officer.

Journeyman Geek

.... Deadly?

9:20 AM

(navy)

pretty much all fruit

oral allergy syndrome

@JourneymanGeek yup. If he'll eat even small amount of it... he'll probably die.

Journeyman Geek

Also rather unlikely the enemy will pelt you with carefully selected fruit

@JourneymanGeek who knows! :D

@journeyman two years for women, two years eight months for men

9:22 AM

@Mithrandir going to be 2 years soon-ish according to recent news.

how soon is "soon-ish"?

6-8 years? lol

Journeyman Geek

Ah ours was 2 years 6 months, now 2 years

Men only thought

I'm 16... I should be getting my first summons soon

@JourneymanGeek so now Israel copy from you! lol

Journeyman Geek

9:23 AM

Well, very different society

@Mithrandir but if you do eat fruit, you might die or "just" rush and pain?

depends

for shesek I break out in hives

o_O

most other fruits, just a tingling, but it could get worse at any time

I also have e.g. asthma, which is made worse by the allergies

Journeyman Geek

Ow

9:28 AM

ok, found the cheese board on etsy.

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only regret: it seems they supported having logos engraving too, not just text.

@JNat I suppose it is too late to add Stack Exchange logo (or Pinkie Pie) on the cheese board, right?

I believe it'll have an SO logo

@Derpy the actual boards they're sending? How?

@Mithrandir hmm... well, can see why you might not serve. So the ball is in your field, I guess. :)

first i have to get the appropriate medical docs

9:33 AM

And not being in school doesn't affect army?

well

it lowers your score, but providing e.g. proof that you did the the GED gets it back up. I have to do that as well soon

I see. Good luck with everything then! :)

Thanks :)

@ShadowWizard I don't know if it is the same shop, but the model seems to be the same

the picture matches the one posted by Tim.

@Derpy but what makes you think they didn't put a logo at all?

9:38 AM

the fact they just said "Engraved with Cheese Overflow 2018"

IMO having a logo is implicit.

Kind of like with email signature.

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^ I think this is the same board, so technically it is possible they added the logo (or an unicorn face) but...

We'll see in 6-8 weeks for ourselves, I guess. :D

@ShadowWizard Ehh. I'll think about it. Let's see how it'll go without pings first :P

@Tinkeringbell sure! :)

First flag in New Mods Era has been cast!

9:45 AM

@ShadowWizard Now wait 6-8 weeks :P

Journeyman Geek

Lol

We have it down :p

nooooooooo

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@JourneymanGeek We certainly do :P

It's called improvisation ;)

Sonic the Anonymous Hedgehog

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@SonictheAnonymousHedgehog Thanks, I guess?

Sonic the Anonymous Hedgehog

9:55 AM

@Tinkeringbell Um, I just published a picture of a mural I found near Downtown Austin?

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Sonic the Anonymous Hedgehog

I was out of film for the day, having used my entire roll doing aviation photography at the airport.

So I took a digital photograph of this one.

That's a chicken, not a parrot... I think

Sonic the Anonymous Hedgehog

@Mithrandir No, a chicken would have a wattle.

a wittle wattle

9:58 AM

@SonictheAnonymousHedgehog a what? :)

Sonic the Anonymous Hedgehog

!!/lmgtfy wattle

@SonictheAnonymousHedgehog No such command 'lmgtfy'.

@SonictheAnonymousHedgehog nice, thought you posted something you found online. When did you take the picture?

Sonic the Anonymous Hedgehog

Thought that existed

@SonictheAnonymousHedgehog not for Smokey

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