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12:26 AM

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Mostly non-latin answer, non-latin link in answer, potentially bad keyword in answer, potentially problematic ns configuration in answer (139): Trans-ocean shipping and patent jurisdiction by Mohamed kelany on patents.SE

Sonic the Anonymous Hedgehog

Happy Thanksgiving!

Andras Deak

12:52 AM

@JourneymanGeek pacifying the angry masses, ca. 2018, colorized

Sonic the Anonymous Hedgehog

cv-pls duplicate: meta.stackexchange.com/questions/318702/… (@Shadow)

cv-pls meta.stackexchange.com/questions/318703/…

Journeyman Geek

@AndrasDeak one of those bunnies looks a bit.. porky

Besides I don't think it's my job to pacify the masses. It's to let people know that the peasants are restless and throw out the riffraff

SmokeDetector

1:21 AM

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in answer, bad keyword with email in answer, email in answer, pattern-matching email in answer (346): Post-apocalyptic book involving the Catholic Church by sonia on scifi.SE

Andras Deak

@JourneymanGeek hehe

let me find a "frying bacon" gif...

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Link at end of answer, potentially bad keyword in answer (61): How do you find someone on Facebook by a photo? by aomp on webapps.SE

and myself

2:23 AM

mor...😴

Journeyman Geek

3:08 AM

GOOD MORNING 💂🐕🐾

SmokeDetector

3:19 AM

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Username similar to website in answer (51): Rich Snippets only appear with "site:" search in Google by Palanivel Raja on webmasters.SE

Sonic the Anonymous Hedgehog

3:30 AM

cv-pls meta.stackexchange.com/questions/318710/…

cv-pls meta.stackexchange.com/questions/318709/…

forest

4:03 AM

railgun

105 6

How does this person have 105 rep and a 4yo account but no posts on any sites?

and myself

4:15 AM

@forest 2 approved suggested edits

forest

@andmyself That explains how they got 4 rep, but not 101.

It says association bonus, but they don't show up elsewhere on the network.

and myself

They hide their other accounts

Thus no "Network Profile"

forest

Ah. I thought hidden accounts just appear as anonymous. Guess not.

Sonic the Anonymous Hedgehog

!!/report meta.stackexchange.com/a/318713/377214 "harassment towards a specific religious group"

forest

@SonictheAnonymousHedgehog How is that harassment towards a religious group?

It just looks like it's off-topic and kind of stupid.

Frivolous reports tend to result in bad things happening.

SmokeDetector

4:25 AM

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Manually reported answer (94): Is there a different standard for Christianity.SE? by Jesse Steele on meta.SE (@SonictheAnonymousHedgehog)

Journeyman Geek

@SonictheAnonymousHedgehog not seeing it as RA.

Sonic the Anonymous Hedgehog

@JourneymanGeek In my opinion, it's violating the Code of Conduct.

forest

It just looks like NAA to me.

@SonictheAnonymousHedgehog How is it violating the CoC?

Journeyman Geek

Two questions - why do you think it is? And how can we improve it?

Sonic the Anonymous Hedgehog

> IMHO, this is not a problem on SE, but an understandable difficulty Christians have in knowing a given type of question and answer and discussion in general.

(quote from answer)

forest

4:29 AM

What is wrong with that?

This person is saying they are Christian and politely saying that there are some things Christians struggle with understanding, which is why a QA site for them is useful.

Sonic the Anonymous Hedgehog

What in this quote is not blatant bigotry?

forest

The whole thing.

Journeyman Geek

Which is an opinion in that sets his context on the rest of his post

forest

I mean I'm not one to defend Christianity, being an atheist, but I see no issue with the post. It's just someone stating their opinion, right or wrong.

and myself

Still not seeing as a violation to CoC... it's a valid opinion to a question about "believe in evolution while being a Christian"

Journeyman Geek

4:31 AM

It's somewhat inarticulate and oddly phrased but that's no crime

forest

@SonictheAnonymousHedgehog Who are they being bigoted against?

Christians? Non-Christians? People who understand evolution?

Sonic the Anonymous Hedgehog

@JourneymanGeek Can you please escalate that answer toward the SE CMs so we can see what they have to hear about it?

Journeyman Geek

No?

Sonic the Anonymous Hedgehog

@JourneymanGeek Why hide it from the CMs?

Journeyman Geek

Who said anything about hiding?

forest

4:33 AM

@SonictheAnonymousHedgehog What do you think the answer is implying? They're saying that they are Christian and that them, and many others, struggle with understanding certain things. I completely fail to see where the bigotry is.

and myself

@SonictheAnonymousHedgehog You can escalate it by yourself, though I won't recommend it...

Journeyman Geek

So Sonic - while MSE is unique , how us moderators are expected to act dosen't change

We are expected to be independent and act in the best interest of the community, and as fairly as possible

forest

It's hard to escalate something when you can't even explain what's wrong with it.

Especially if it's not even borderline, but straight up benign.

Journeyman Geek

Quite honestly what that needs is copyediting

forest

I agree. It's not a great answer, but not offensive...

Sonic the Anonymous Hedgehog

4:39 AM

@forest It's an ad-hominem attack on Christians. It's essentially boiling down to, "you're Christian so you don't understand how Q&A works".

and myself

I... fail to see that connection... so I agree to disagree, and disengage

forest

@SonictheAnonymousHedgehog But... this person is a Christian themselves.

Journeyman Geek

Nope

forest

I'm an atheist. I think there are a lot of stupid atheists out there. Am I now a bigot?

Journeyman Geek

Anyway...

It dosen't answer the question.

> Hi - this was brought up elsewhere and there seems to be a little confusion over how precisely this answer relates to the question specifically. In it's current form, it seems to relate to Christians rather than the specific site and really could use a little tightening up. In its current state - I don't think it answers the question. I'm deleting this but feel free to fix it up and flag it for undeletion once it is.

Commented as so and deleted

@SonictheAnonymousHedgehog so - two problems here

One is that spam flags have a rep penalty that seems unfair here

Sonic the Anonymous Hedgehog

4:43 AM

@JourneymanGeek The user has no rep to lose.

As they have 1 rep, the penalty is waived.

Journeyman Geek

Secondly while it's easier to flag we completely fail at educating a new user to where he went wrong by just deleting

forest

Isn't the bigger problem the fact that it was a frivolous flag?

Sonic the Anonymous Hedgehog

Imagine if an onlooker saw that answer. Would they fire a negative tweet about it?

Journeyman Geek

Well + it getting fed into smokey

@SonictheAnonymousHedgehog well if they did, we have a process now

forest

@SonictheAnonymousHedgehog No, and I'm saying that as someone who believes Twitter users get upset over nothing and victimize themselves for publicity.

Journeyman Geek

4:46 AM

And I think one of our CMs is basically eminently qualified to deal with that

@SonictheAnonymousHedgehog so

Here's the thing.

We absolutely need to work past the idea SO Corp will react to Twitter over the community

The mods are working on it

forest

Heh

Mods have even said Twitter is a better place to discuss SE than Meta. :P

Journeyman Geek

And Chris, Tink and I are literally trusted enough to tell SE staff they have crossed the line.

This is scary ass.

forest

The "idea" is an unfortunate reality when we have a corporation that cares so little about their users (the arbitration clause, the new "themes", the Twitter debacle...)

Journeyman Geek

@forest I know a few people inside the company

The most recent drama was quite a shake up it seems

forest

Have you told them that people caught on to their lies that themes are hard to maintain? Especially with regards to custom vote buttons being in the exact same image resource as custom badges... (did they really think we wouldn't notice?)

A shake up, how so?

Sonic the Anonymous Hedgehog

4:51 AM

@forest As long as people don't get confused and post their questions on the wrong sites because the sites look so similar, I'm fine. (I think that in the current form, it's bound to happen.)

Journeyman Geek

@forest well - the focus on the community was lost

But here's the thing - we probably need to rebuild trust, they don't get a pass there.

forest

@JourneymanGeek Are they finally realizing that it's an issue?

Journeyman Geek

@forest they seem to

forest

@SonictheAnonymousHedgehog Tell that to all the other sites who miss their themes, especially English.SE who can actually realize how bad the new fonts conflict.

Journeyman Geek

But they're not exactly nimble

forest

4:53 AM

"Our site is a little different from all the others, here's how" <- no longer true.

@JourneymanGeek Do you think they will eventually learn?

Or will they continue with their crappy Teams thing above all else?

Journeyman Geek

@forest eh. I would rather teams honestly

forest

Teams is fine. Lying to the community that they need to destroy loved features to make way for Teams (and/or for adverts in the left bar) is not.

I mean the "responsiveness" changes have still utterly broken the site for me when I use a browser that isn't maximized to fit my whole screen.

Journeyman Geek

It is often a solution looking for a problem but it's likely to be less destructive than some other initiatives they tried

forest

Well as it is, I'm dreading the day they remove the "disable responsiveness" button.

Journeyman Geek

@forest oh the complaints will continue until things get better

There's a few things though

forest

4:55 AM

But will they listen to the complaints? They seem so eager for "feedback", which they summarily dismiss with extreme prejudice. Like talking to a brick wall.

Journeyman Geek

We would get the same responses with old time design changes

But I think it was literally 'eh. Suck it up'

forest

But in this scenario, we have them caught blatantly lying, as well as making objectively bad and amateur UX decisions (clashing fonts and colors, horrible underlines).

Journeyman Geek

See... Lying is a loaded word

Sonic the Anonymous Hedgehog

Well, actually, there is one more condition on my end. That the sites still get to keep their custom error pages.

Journeyman Geek

But once they get the new themes ...well better...

It might be easier to leverage the stuff we lost back in

forest

4:58 AM

Speaking falsehoods, then? Fibs? I don't want to believe that they're just so ignorant of their own internals that they don't understand that the vote button images (which they claim we cannot keep due to the difficulty of maintaining it) are part of the same resources as custom badges (which they say we can keep).

Journeyman Geek

@forest or they want to save the time

forest

How is that saving time?

We already have custom icons. No need to remove them and claim incorrectly that it has to do with maintainability. Or things like the size of the header which they drastically shrunk (causing enhanced banner blindness, as anyone at UX.SE will tell you).

Journeyman Geek

There's a few hundred sites....

forest

@JourneymanGeek So grandfather it in, like they did with custom domain names?

Of the few hundred sites, how many are not in beta anyway?

Journeyman Geek

@forest which brings us back to technical debt

New designs we're a blocker for years sooooo

forest

5:00 AM

That's a manufactured fault. There's no technical reason it is difficult.

Hell, I could do it in a day or two with CSS, and I don't even know CSS!

Sonic the Anonymous Hedgehog

I figured custom designs for sites would never gonna come to fruition after Jin was laid off

Journeyman Geek

I'd love for more distinctiveness but there's a trick to picking your battles imo

forest

@JourneymanGeek Then what about other issues like banner size?

Journeyman Geek

@forest then how do you know?

forest

@JourneymanGeek Because I know how simple a template can be.

Journeyman Geek

5:01 AM

@forest I haven't really had anyone complain on my end

forest

Not the dozens of complaints in various site metas?

Some even explaining that the simplified logo actually breaks symbolism?

Journeyman Geek

And I literally had my merry band of RA regulars spend hours complaining about it

forest

I mean, that's as simple as changing the height attribute and using a large image.

It's not particularly complicated.

Journeyman Geek

We had that issue. And a beta theme...

We got em to fix it

forest

I'm not even trying to pick on individual faults. The whole thing was botched.

Journeyman Geek

5:03 AM

But it's easier to get them to do that

forest

That's my point. It was botched, and they don't listen to community feedback.

I really hope they do understand what they are doing wrong, but I am pessimistic.

Journeyman Geek

I hope so and where I can I'm going to try my damnedest to be effective about it :p

forest

Well, let's hope you can manage them to revert their changes. The idea of technical debt on a website literally hosted for expert programmers is laughable.

Journeyman Geek

Well - they quite literally hadn't done any updates in years

And that's kinda related to their focus on non QA products which....

But I'm more concerned with the soft side of things

forest

What do you mean?

Journeyman Geek

5:08 AM

Well -one reason that things got bad is that the lines of communication between SO (Corp) and mods broke down

They tried to formalize it but it hasn't worked well

forest

With the CoC crap that their shareholders have been naïvely pushing for?

Journeyman Geek

That bit, least for mods has been slowly improving

Oh more day to day things

forest

So just comms in general then?

Journeyman Geek

@forest see - that makes bridge building hard

We don't know the internals. That said most companies would just push a change over and tell you to leave if they were unhappy

SE comsulted

And yanno what? Quite literally nothing has changed in my day to day moderation

Pardon any typos. On my phone.

forest

I think it's actually worse. Other companies would have been honest that they don't care about you or your opinions. They wouldn't ask for feedback then lie about why they can't implement it.

I mean, it's almost a meme now on various metas that SE staff don't care about feedback.

Journeyman Geek

5:12 AM

.... 'that they don't care....'

._.

forest

?

Journeyman Geek

This is a really difficult conversation

forest

Everyone knows it.

I'm not saying that moderators like you don't care.

I'm talking about the staff who make the decisions.

Journeyman Geek

There's so much 'when did you stop beating your wife'

forest

I don't know what that is a reference to.

Journeyman Geek

5:14 AM

If you're constantly assuming the worst of people, engaging with them is hard

Loaded question

A loaded question or complex question fallacy is a question that contains a controversial or unjustified assumption (e.g., a presumption of guilt).Aside from being an informal fallacy depending on usage, such questions may be used as a rhetorical tool: the question attempts to limit direct replies to be those that serve the questioner's agenda. The traditional example is the question "Have you stopped beating your wife?" Whether the respondent answers yes or no, he will admit to having a wife and having beaten her at some time in the past. Thus, these facts are presupposed by the question, and...

forest

We've tried engaging, but the staff have shown time and time again that they don't care one bit about the community and care more about PR on crap like Twitter than things their users have been talking about for years.

The Twitter thing was just the icing on the cake and almost took it to comical extremes.

Journeyman Geek

Essentially you have a frame of reference that SE is a soulless corporation that has it's hand up the ass of it's friendlier smaller self and is using that Goodwill

forest

I didn't have that frame of reference when I first came here.

When I came here, I thought of SE as highly community-driven.

Journeyman Geek

I have a frame if reference that they kinda lost their way and grew too fast

forest

It's only the events that have passed that changed my mind.

Well sure, "lost their way" is a more polite way to put it.

Journeyman Geek

5:16 AM

But it's not a megacorp

forest

But to the thousands of people who they screw over, "don't give a fuck about the users" is what is being perceived. If it's because they grew too fast, that's no excuse.

Journeyman Geek

Well in a sense that is something I think needs to be put right

forest

It'll be very, very hard for them to correct their image in the eyes of the community.

Journeyman Geek

But that needs folks wanting to work with us

forest

Everyone wanted to work with SE. People spend hundreds of man hours writing lengthy and detailed, comprehensive replies to questions seeking feedback.

And it was ignored. To make matters worse, staff then thanked them profusely for feedback after blatantly ignoring it and often even doing the opposite.

Journeyman Geek

5:20 AM

Eh. The other way too

forest

I mean yeah, there were a few people here and there who just didn't want to get along period, but the vast majority were open and honest, and got screwed.

Journeyman Geek

Maybe I've had better luck

'got screwed' - eh at most they were annoyed. Or eeeked.

Or got a shitty theme

forest

You sure don't read per-site metas much.

Journeyman Geek

Only on the sites I am active on

forest

There were even some moderators and high-profile users who left due to this.

I checked on most sites' metas to see their opinions.

Journeyman Geek

5:24 AM

It's not like I get paid to handle other folks problems

Only one I kinda miss was enderland

forest

And it's almost all very negative, pointing out flaws and lamenting that staff are saying how thankful they are for all the positive feedback, while all of the actual feedback is overwhelmingly negative. Especially on Worldbuilding and English.

Journeyman Geek

He came back, then left again for family reasons

@forest world building got their robot bacl

English is a mess but hopefully they can sort out the font and keming issues

forest

Yes they did, but it still ruined the background and they really, really don't like the primitive banner. They're just happy it wasn't all taken away.

But things like RPG that love their icons? They're hit hard.

I'm just lucky that my main site (Information Security) doesn't make use of extensive theming with the icons. I still hate the shrunken banner that makes the site look so bland, though, and the logo whose subtle symbolism is now broken.

...not that the responsiveness feature doesn't still break the site in my browser...

Shadow Wizard

@andmyself engage to disengage? ;)

Journeyman Geek

@forest ._. what browser?

forest

5:30 AM

Firefox.

The text is crushed so small if I don't maximize the browser.

It looks a little bit like

this with each sentence

broken up into a

number of lines.

While on the left and right are these huge borders with nothing useful.

Shadow Wizard

On mobile?

forest

Nope, desktop.

I just don't maximize my browser.

> Crash at tableview.reloaddata with

> error Unexpectedly found nil

That's the title of the first question on Stack Overflow.

I mean really, why should a single title that fits in one sentence be broken up so bad? I even see a few questions where the title is split up into 4 or 5 lines!

It's actually so bad that the "posted by" and "edited by" icons have to stack on top of each other because there's not enough room to fit them side to side in one post...

Journeyman Geek

Oo

forest

@JourneymanGeek To put it into perspective, the width of the HNQ is about the same as the actual text body of the question and answers. The rest is useless space.

And I'm using an HD monitor, not even a small one!

Anyway, I'll stop my ranting now that my daughter is getting hungry...

ttyl

Shadow Wizard

5:55 AM

@forest that is the problem. Responsive design for non mobile has several "levels" of resolution, i.e. different design rules for each resolution from a fixed list, as far as I know at least. So if you have non standard resolution or just resize the browser, you might indeed get the design looking weird.

If you still get what you describe with a maximized browser, start a bug report and specify your screen resolution.

@forest how old is she? Still a baby? :)

Tinkeringbell

6:51 AM

Morning!

Journeyman Geek

GOOD AFTERNOON

Tinkeringbell

Nope. Definitely morning and waay to early :P

Shree

cv-pls support off-topic Snaplogic Read time out error - Biradar Mallikarjun‎ - 2018-11-23 06:53:46Z

Alex

For some people it's night.

Tinkeringbell

@Alex sssh. We don't want to wake them up

Alex

7:00 AM

@Tinkeringbell Unless they're the people who sleep during the day ad are awake at night.

Magisch

→ 4 messages moved to Chimney

morning

Shree

o/

forest

7:22 AM

@ShadowWizard no lol, she's 10. I've just been telling her "not now" for the past hour. Made ravioli, one of the few things that's not pizza that she likes.

@ShadowWizard So the responsiveness is only meant to work for browsers with maximized windows, screw everyone else who doesn't maximize their browser?

rene

@forest made ravioli ... so you started with plain flour, added eggs, made a dough, rolled it, sliced onions, tomatoes, chopped paprika, put it in a frying pan, added the minced meat, folded the filling in the now ready dough, boiled the ravioli and served it in under 90 minutes ? That is impressive ...

forest

@rene I hunted down a wild pack of frozen ravioli and put it in a pot.

rene

utterly disappointed ;)

forest

:p

rene

7:38 AM

Those newly appointed MSE mods must love their jobs. The flags I put in last night are all handled (and non of them were declined) \o/. Awesome.

forest

Is there any way to disable Google's ad services and related 3rd party JS for SE?

I don't like going to one site and connecting to a dozen domains.

rene

@forest maybe with an adblocker? U-block for example

forest

Ok

Magisch

Yeah ublock can do it

and myself

!!/ravioli

SmokeDetector

7:45 AM

@andmyself No such command 'ravioli'.

and myself

kicked Smokey on the back

Sonic the Inclusive Hedgehog

!!/blame

SmokeDetector

@SonictheInclusiveHedgehog It's John Dvorak's fault.

Sonic the Inclusive Hedgehog

@πάνταῥεῖ @AndrasDeak There is no club.

Mithrandir

8:04 AM

@andmyself Hey! No violence, especially towards bots who can't defend themselves, in the Tavern!

rene

All issues with the content in C++ posts are fixed. We now move on to the root cause, the OP's themselves: What to do when OP uses Variable-Length Arrays in C++?

Journeyman Geek

@forest if you wanted something uglier but more universal hosts.txt file. Though if stuff breaks .... Do remember what you disabled

Derpy

8:20 AM

@forest umatrix?

Andras Deak

@SonictheInclusiveHedgehog he was being sarcastic

@forest use noscript. Does exactly that.

Derpy

@JourneymanGeek right, but in a way, saying that is also doing the same. Didn't want to play devil advocate here, but do not confuse assuming the worst with being frustrated over the latest events. It seems to me that there are many users out of there that will have an harder time than most of us at trying to "brush off / forget" some of the things that happened

Journeyman Geek

@Derpy I'm frustrated with a lot of things too. Phrasing matters thought

Derpy

@JourneymanGeek I don't know. I am more of a fan of sentiment rather than form.

and myself

8:40 AM

#PhrasingMatters

Journeyman Geek

@andmyself it does!

It's a key to soft power. Making friends and all that

It's easier to brush off ranty people :p

Magisch

Eh

Soft power works if you're good at it

Journeyman Geek

@Magisch well it's a process :p

Andras Deak

@JourneymanGeek friends in high places? A-ha! Cronyism caught red handed! :P :D

Journeyman Geek

And there's no real positional power that really matters

@AndrasDeak well - clearly I either impressed or annoyed someone

Maybe both

Andras Deak

8:51 AM

probably both

the ideal MSE mod impresses Tim and annoys everyone else :D

Journeyman Geek

Lol

Andras Deak

which is not to say any of you three are ideal ;)

Journeyman Geek

@AndrasDeak perfect is the enemy of good

Andras Deak

I thought that was "bad"

Journeyman Geek

That said IMO ips is probably the hardest mod job

Andras Deak

8:53 AM

no doubt about that

Journeyman Geek

Doubly so since it's a new site

Andras Deak

maybe politics too?

Journeyman Geek

Chris probably has a ton of experience across a lot of sites

Me? Idk. I bite? :P

Tinkeringbell

And I peck at eyes :P

Magisch

@Tinkeringbell thats not very welcoming

you could try a wing buffet instead as attack

Tinkeringbell

8:57 AM

So Geek gets to bite but I need to be welcoming? :P

Magisch

geek is a tiny terrier

even when they try to look fierce its just more cute

Andras Deak

he's terrier than the average bear

@Magisch those things can still bite

Journeyman Geek

:p

Andras Deak

nothing that can't be solved with a well-placed kick, but still

Journeyman Geek

(to be a fly on that wall XD)

Andras Deak

8:58 AM

And this is also a terrier en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Russian_Terrier#/media/…

Journeyman Geek

@AndrasDeak actually worst idea when bitten by a small dog

Andras Deak

@JourneymanGeek why?

Journeyman Geek

Especially a puppy

Andras Deak

we're talking small and agressive, not small and playful :P

Journeyman Geek

@AndrasDeak they have sharp teeth and a hell of a chomp. That's how you get scars

Magisch

8:59 AM

never met a genuinely aggressive terrier

Andras Deak

@JourneymanGeek I mean once they let go

Journeyman Geek

Also puppies play bite until they realize it hurts

Andras Deak

@Magisch I have, but they're usually on leashes

Journeyman Geek

If they let go

Andras Deak

yeah, sure, if

Journeyman Geek

9:00 AM

If

Andras Deak

The typical aggressive dog I see are little fluffs. Maltese and the like

Mithrandir

@JourneymanGeek "...if I only had a brain..."

Journeyman Geek

Puppies rarely let go :p

@AndrasDeak Ash is chill

Magisch

ash seems like the kind of dog you can just pick up and cuddle

Journeyman Geek

I've seen him cool sidestep a lunging dog and walk away

@Magisch now he is :p

Andras Deak

9:05 AM

@JourneymanGeek most dogs are :)

Journeyman Geek

Took a bit if work as a pup. His ex owner was clueless

Andras Deak

what breed is he?

if applicable

Journeyman Geek

No idea. White scnauzer X something sneaky

He seems stocky so legally westie

But could be anything

Mithrandir

"caninoid"

Andras Deak

Hopefully proper canid

Shadow Wizard

9:11 AM

@JourneymanGeek but at least not abusive?

Andras Deak

Schnauzers are usually chill

Journeyman Geek

@ShadowWizard not very

Andras Deak

And I've yet to see a neurotic westie :D

Journeyman Geek

But a pup needs a lot of work

Sonic the Inclusive Hedgehog

cv-pls one-more-close-vote-needed doesn't appear to seek input and discussion: meta.stackexchange.com/questions/318723/just-plain-disappointed

@JourneymanGeek Wondering why you overruled the other four off-topic votes and closed as unclear

Magisch

9:18 AM

does it actually matter? doubt it was a conscious decision

Journeyman Geek

@SonictheInclusiveHedgehog I picked the close reason I felt was more appropriate. I actually think I complained about that behavior before.... It's silly

As with any vote

M.A.R. ಠ_ಠ

-6

Q: Just plain disappointed!

I was in the process of properly helping someone with their device. As I was about to actually give him the correct answer, I was bounced. Poor guy is probably going to get a bum steer now. I've browsed your Q&A and found %70 of answers are incorrect or for another device. Are you really here to ...

How come JPD isn't a fundamental part of txtspk?

@JourneymanGeek I wanna complain about that behavior so I become a mod

What does the new Theory of Moderation say that the old one doesn't? 15-second read pls

Journeyman Geek

@M.A.R.ಠ_ಠ it's more about SE's social contract with us - that they will try to communicate with us better and back up the mods

M.A.R. ಠ_ಠ

@SonictheInclusiveHedgehog well let me seek input to see if they sought input

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Q: What is the negative score for comment?

At least on two sites: SO on Russian and Русский язык SE Data Explorer returns a lot of comments with negative score (-1): Actual comments look like normal comment without upvotes. What is this? An echo of migration from hashcode.ru?

bug comments data-explorer

Ha, in Soviet Russia it starts from -1 not zero.

Typical communist stuff I imagine

@Mith didn't you take like a blood oath to choose avatars from that girl with a bomb shaped face?

Amazing what can change in a couple of months

Journeyman Geek

9:40 AM

@M.A.R.ಠ_ಠ someone drew it for them

Derpy

ok, wikipedia, I will never again say that bees in Animal Crossing are too big...

Journeyman Geek

@Derpy look up carpenter bees

Mithrandir

> "girl with a bomb shaped face"

Definitely not.

Journeyman Geek

Unrelatedly...

Derpy

9:57 AM

> X. micans is a large carpenter bee, ranging between 15 and 19 mm long

Shree

cv-pls feature-request off-topic Cloud computing - BADRI NATH‎ - 2018-11-23 09:51:34Z

Derpy

The one I posted seem far larger

About 4 times larger

> Some dimensions of the Asian giant hornet are a body length of 45 mm (1.8 in), a wingspan around 75 mm (3.0 in), and a stinger with a length of 6 mm (0.24 in)