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2:34 AM
Morning?
 
2:54 AM
hi
 
I got banned from flagging after flagging comments in order to test out bugs with the way comment flags display in history. (As they were comment flags, I couldn't retract them.)
 
you don't get banned for comment flags
you get banned for repeatedly flagging the same answers as "not an answer", even though your last 4 "not an answer" flags on the same answer were declined
I may have said that before
in this room
to you
I may even have mentioned something about not being in any hurry to handle them
 
Yes, I thought that only "post flags" were considered for the flag ban: See Meta : meta.stackexchange.com/questions/173878/…
 
...well, now you know what happens when they all get handled in an afternoon
 
3:17 AM
@Shog9 Um, it was mostly comment flags that were listed as being declined in the last seven days?
As far as I can see, of the 8 flags declined in the last seven days, 5 are comment flags.
Of which 4 I cast for bug-testing purposes
 
3:28 AM
@SonictheInclusiveHedgehog yup
qualifying flags for the ban are: other, offensive, spam, lq, recommend close, naa
you raised 10 of those in the past 7 days
 
and 3 were declined
that's 30%
which, > 25%
== 7-day ban
 
@Shog9 One flag is from early July, which wasn't handled until today.
 
yup
no more re-flagging the same answers for the same reason, 'k?
 
@Shog9 Yes. In the meantime...
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Q: Do not show comment flags in "declined in last 7 days" view

Sonic the Inclusive HedgehogI went to check my flag history, only to see this big banner: I clicked on the button, and saw eight declined flags. Five of those were comment flags, which do not count towards bans (reconfirmed today by Shog). I was testing out bugs in the new comment flagging functionality in order to ...

 
3:36 AM
waiting for custom question list...
 
4:00 AM
Well, unified theme on Maths came faster than I thought, and many were disappointed (not that surprising?)
 
4:18 AM
-9
Q: Stack Overflow is the worst Website I've Ever Seen in my Life

Krusty the ClownYou know what I have to say about this site? It's about as toxic as the Springfield Nuclear Plant. I can't ask a fucking question without someone spending 12 hours scrounging stack overflow trying to find a duplicate post. You know what I say about that to all of you? Shut the fuck up and answer ...

So we have the comment thing covered, but posts themselves seem to be able to stick around quite a while...
 
aww too lare
 
37 minutes isn't too bad... comments stick around longer since they require mods.
 
Too my mind, a bunch of pretty nasty words ought to give some sort of priority to taking it down...
Those words have absolutely no use it polite discourse.
 
@StephenRauch people don't typically hang out around site metas all day
I don't on SU meta, I just rely on notifications
 
4:34 AM
So @JourneymanGeek Is the SU theme better, at least?
It's very white. :)
 
I personally like it
.... actually I didn't notice it was new for a few minutes...
 
@Catija, it just seems that phrases like Shut the f__ up and s_k my a__ in posts ought to get some special treatment when those posts are flagged.
 
@SonictheInclusiveHedgehog I'm a CM, not a designer, Jim.
 
@Catija Please raise it internally that someone has asked for it
 
@Catija in a perfect world, I'd have a dark option but ehhh SE has never had dark options ;p
 
found lurking on Google Image Search
 
5:02 AM
Chicken and waffle sliders?
 
 
those appear to be meatballs in very small waffles... impaled with golf .... ball holder thingies?
 
@JourneymanGeek Tees?
 
I'm testing a userscript that lets me paste images directly into chat & gives me a ready imgur URL
 
Yes, Tees.
I was thinking ques
@Shog9 ... should be a feature ;p
 
5:05 AM
because I'm sick of opening up meta.stackexchange.com/questions/ask to get image urls. Percentage of total voters voting per day, by election, on Stack Overflow: i.stack.imgur.com/GfF4U.png
 
and image uploads on mobile would be cool too :(
rofl
@Shog9 ... that's kinda what I do a lot of the time ;p
 
image uploads work on mobile?
 
nope
would be nice tho
I just switch to desktop view and back for that ._.
 
oh. Must be internal rooms only :-/
...these should be https urls...
 
oh well
I'm sure chat will get a refresh in 6-8 years or so ;p
 
5:08 AM
there we go. HTTPS!
 
I actually think the top one was stolen from a failed 70s TV show
 
...and the bottom one from a successful 50s TV show?
 
The bottom one is awful.
The top one is based on the NASA meatball.
 
with an odd font
 
Yeah, apparently stencil fonts with no interior floating spaces are spacey.
 
5:11 AM
they should just call it the US Spacey....
and build giant convertable mechs
 
Or, you know... just spend money on NASA instead.
They already have a logo, I hear.
 
;p
Nasa's a bit of a mess :(
I actually think that megalomaniacal billionares are the most cost effective way to get the US back into space
 
Ugh, after midnight. I'm out.
 
night!
 
ok, enough of that. 'nite!
 
 
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6:58 AM
anyone know why the one timestamp (inside red freehand circle) is blue?
I got a notification on my inbox about that comment, because op mentioned me. And I visited it from the link on inbox.
 
what happens when you click on it?
 
the notification is link to the comment..check the url
its the color for activated link I guess
 
@JourneymanGeek that's the permalink to comment as usuall
may be it is highlighted because I clicked a link directly to it. Still strange
 
do you mean the time or the username?
 
time
the same for rest of the comments are shown in gray
for this one, it is blue
 
7:04 AM
its active link
click on any other comment and then check the time
 
@SurajRao clicking won't work
but yeah it's active link. visiting the permalink of any other comment showing it's time in blue
 
ooo, just received the SO CoC email
 
@SomewhatMemorableName email is competing with postal service
 
 
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8:46 AM
9 messages moved to Chimney
 
9:14 AM
Hmm... I have flagged 1 comment as "unfriendly", and 1 comment as "abuse", and they both gone instantly :)
 
How unfriendly ...
 
Well, at first, I was even not sure whether they are gone or just hidden to me...
which... kind of interesting if red-flagging the comments would automatically hide them first from the flagger before they're handled...
 
user194636
more likely yours was the last flag needed to automatically delete the comment
 
user194636
 
9:54 AM
a DIY.SE mod and a Korean.SE mod stepped down
@rene keyboard shortcut is unfriendly ;)
 
10:09 AM
:D
 
 
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11:32 AM
is Tim Post on a vacation? anyone know?
 
He is probably busy
 
asked him something yesterday and he didn't came here yet
It's kinda urgent
 
then send an email
 
will try
 
Chat is a notoriously bad medium to keep a focus on important matters.
 
11:36 AM
is there someone else responsible for swag
other than tim
 
Not sure. I think all those who I know used to be involved with it have moved on
 
Animuson maybe. If you send a mail to team@stackoverflow.com it lands in his inbox.
 
12:09 PM
sent the mail to tpost@stackoverflow.com and team@stackoverflow.com
 
 
1 hour later…
1:27 PM
@gnat if you haven't already, would you mind checking this for voting on a synonym request. You are eligible.
 
@rene that's why it's being replaced by a rigid, radio-based feedback mechanism!
 
feedback mechanism is what the farmer said when he used the cattle prod
 
turned off the mic
 
@Shog9 traditionally, the moderator stance seems to be, "Favor deleting a comment, if flagged." Now that we've introduced such a subjective flag as, "unfriendly," will moderators be more judicious in their processing? I'd hate to have such claims validated simply for expedience.
 
1:43 PM
@canon yeah, unfortunately that's the only way this can avoid the trap we fell into with "not constructive"
 
2:05 PM
I understand that there's a massive amount of comment flags... but if you're trying to effect a culture-shift, people need to know what they were flagged for and if that was validated (and why).
Or at least, I'd hope that we'd want that for the users.
 
 
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3:26 PM
 
3:38 PM
@Shog9 You commented about this earlier:
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Q: Link comment flags in the flag history page to the flagged comment, if it still exists

Michael KjörlingNote: This is not the same as Make comment flags link to the comment, which is about the moderator tool. I am talking about the flag history page that is accessible through the user profile at https://example.stackexchange.com.invalid/users/flag-summary/USERID. I tend to have a pretty good hit r...

 
4:11 PM
yeah, that'd work
 
 
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5:38 PM
45 messages moved to Chimney
 
 
3 hours later…
8:08 PM
@SonictheInclusiveHedgehog just reviewing the recent talk here... was there a specific answer on Stack Overflow that you had a problem with?
 
@AaronHall Sorry?
 
@SonictheInclusiveHedgehog Shog indicated you might have been flagging an answer, and I was curious, if it was on Stack Overflow, what it was, and what I might conclude if I saw it.
But if not, feel free to ignore...
On another subject, what classes of chat bots would we say we have on chat?
we have ones that assist in moderation...
Or are they mostly all about moderation of one form or another?
 
@AaronHall MSE, not SO. An employee had left a meme as an answer to a bug report.
@AaronHall There are fun bots, too...
 
@SonictheInclusiveHedgehog actually smokey is a moderation bot
 
Shouldn't there be a separate bot to handle coffee?
 
8:15 PM
@OptimusPrime It's a fun bot, too...
 
Each bot should do one thing and do it well. :)
 
@AaronHall SU's chat room has (had?) a fun bot
 
there are few fun bots on Den. Moosebot, another bot by rene (I forgot it's name)
 
@OptimusPrime KennyBOT
 
8:16 PM
Gotta go, begin teaching
 
@AaronHall The IPS chatroom has pseudohuman. That one seems to be purely for fun ...
 
@SonictheInclusiveHedgehog wait. are you a teacher
 
@Tinkeringbell They should have a chatbot named Dale Carnegie...
 
Had to sign a document and adobe reader wasted my half hour. I can't draw it properly and they didn't provide an option to include image.
 
@AaronHall runs to Google
 
8:20 PM
@OptimusPrime I used to be a financial advisor, and I tried going paperless, which meant I needed a signature over a transparent background to add to documents... those were the days...
 
Adobe reader doesn't have an option to import picture to file
 
Ah. I have read one such book ( not by him) and I sincerely disgust the manipulative attitude displayed in it :/
 
I googled and found a site, signed it and downloaded the signed copy in few seconds
 
@OptimusPrime I did everything regarding that on Linux.
 
I don't like linux
except kali
 
8:25 PM
@Tinkeringbell manipulation ... or ... cooperation to get win/win? - perhap the former is a dysphemism for the latter...
 
@AaronHall this one was literally treating people as a way to get what you want.... E.g. nothing on saying thanks, being appreciative etc..
There was no reciprocation in it
 
@Tinkeringbell do you recall the title?
 
8:48 PM
@AaronHall The art of people
 
9:04 PM
the reversal badge is weird
What did i reverse by answering a 0 scored question, that is now -8?
 
@KevinB well, your answer pointed out how bad the question was? ;)
 
 
2 hours later…
11:00 PM
@Catija Time for Happy Hour!
Needs another flag to be deleted: meta.stackexchange.com/a/314013/377214
 
11:54 PM
@OptimusPrime that is the Linux I dislike :p
 

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