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12:23 AM
@Catija AFAICT there is no documentation on MSE or MSO that the code filter is SO-specific. In addition, there are quite a few open questions on MSE asking about it that were posted prior to the MSO-MSE-split. Thus, I'd say it's reasonable for the OP to assume that the post is "inappropriate for MSO rather than MSE".
I... don't really care?
Five people voted to close that question.
@Catija Didn't you tell me once that I shouldn't direct my messages and comments at users? Didn't you just do the same thing here?
I'm really not following you.
Feb 4 at 19:35, by Catija
@SonictheAnonymousHedgehog Could you say that in a way that doesn't read like "You f-ed up, do better next time"?
General statement (not about specific other users): I tend to think that I'm the only one here who strives to be as nice to other users as possible. In this particular case, I would have mod-flagged the post requesting it be migrated to MSO. (To be honest, at first I would have done nothing, since I also wasn't aware that posts about the code checker are off-topic, because of the related question that was deemed on-topic, but if I knew this, that's what I would have done.)
I don't see how that relates? I was specifically unhappy with the tone you chose to take with me when criticizing people. You're the one criticizing me... again... and I'm saying that I don't care. Why aren't you telling @ShadowWizard or one of the other three people who VTC that question?
12:30 AM
@Catija I'm actually not criticizing anyone, or anything...sorry if my messages above came across that way. I was just asking a question.
And, again, I'm not going to bother the CMs with a myriad of "can you migrate this Plz" flags. I get them all the time on IPS and they're usually declined.
(I have a tendency to forget tone and focus on being literal instead)
You pinged me in here and on the question. That seems a bit excessive.
@Ano There's no question here. It's a statement...
@Catija That's...still not criticism?
After reading the two messages above, I figured that the second one would come across as criticism, so I addressed that one specifically. I still couldn't see how the first one would.
@Catija I just wanted that one reason to show on the question, and tell you the rest in chat.
A: Coffee consuming amount

Sina ArzanyCoffee understand. coffee does not ask silly question.

I find that too funny to want to flag
Why are you reporting that @Ano It's not spam.
also, why does that need to be on smokey?
Hardly red flaggable
@JourneymanGeek Isn't that R/A?
12:36 AM
Please don't use Smokey to report NAA. Flag it on the answer or move along.
Nobody understands me like my coffee does.
Still not a reason to use Smokey. Smokey is for spam.
how is it rude or abusive? flagging and downvoting is good enough
@JourneymanGeek It's an obvious trolling attempt.
12:39 AM
What's that old phrase...
@JourneymanGeek Obvious to me...
never attribute to malice, what could be attributed to incompetence.
Huh, their profile is interesting. coffee.stackexchange.com/users/5338/sina-arzany - They've got two gold badges for 'Famous question'. And yet... coffee.stackexchange.com/help/badges/28/…
I'm guessing their questions were deleted? In which case, the badges shouldn't show in their profile
the multiple corrections, clearly were intentional...
@Ano but ...that's contextual
and its unlikely OP will keep posting "coffee understand..."
@Rob That's impossible... Unless they deleted their account and recreated it? Maybe? Dunno... the account's only two days old.
12:43 AM
Regular badges (unlike tag badges) are not revoked.
Coffee isn't even as old as some of those badges are earned on dated.
@Rob I don't see any badges?
If a post gets deleted, or is downvoted below the badge threshold, you keep the badge.
But Coffee didn't exist in 2009.
And the inconsistency is a bug. Or everything about that profile is a bug.
12:46 AM
@Rob Could you write up a bug report on MSE? I don't see any reason for that.
Only coffee can understand.
@JonEricson Sure, will do
Though it does look like Catija is correct; all their badges were awarded some time ago, before the account was created
Or even the site. 8-/
@Rob Ah, yes, I see the badges now. I just wasn't looking in the right spot.
12:53 AM
They're gone now?
Yeah, gone for me too. Still worth putting it up on Meta, @JonEricson?
Huh. Yep. Weird.
Managed to screenshot it before it was corrected
Yeah, I have one, too.
@Rob I think it is. We might immediately mark it as norepo, but it might help if the bug comes back.
12:57 AM
Considering the SFF thing... maybe it was mis-matching results to the pages... SFF gets SO tags... this user gets someone else's badges.
@JonEricson I've put it up here: meta.stackexchange.com/questions/307242/…
Quantum badges exist only when they are not observed.
We looked at them and collapsed their wave function.
Looks like it's related to this. Maybe Marc kicked the servers a bit too hard?
And badges scattered all over the place, ending up with random users.
1:11 AM
Yeah that looks like the system was querying Stack Overflow for a bunch of pages (that user ID on Stack Overflow has those exact badges). Appears to have been fixed though. — animuson ♦ 6 mins ago
1:57 AM
@JourneymanGeek I think you might know the answer to my SU question: superuser.com/questions/1297179/…
I don't run edge
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4:32 AM
With recent events of quantum errors (full edit suggestion queue, empty tagged questions, and ghost badges)...
4:50 AM
Reports blocked for 1 seconds in room 111347.
@SmokeDetector ok. huh, wut?
Don't worry about it
I thought we're gonna have another town hall :(
A very short one, too. Brevity is a virtue.
@quartata Sure, and you shouldn't worry about the giant S I happen to carry around.
5:10 AM
Reports blocked for 2 second(s) in room 111347 on stackoverflow.com.
was just a test, sorry
> As sysadmins if we want to update the build tools every month or two we need to automate it. We should be able to do that by issuing 1 command and done whether it's a new server or upgrading an existing one. I'd love to see this added. It's a pain at Stack Overflow today. -- Nick Craver at 6:19 PM - 21 Feb 2018
Looks like Nick needs some tools for automatic update of build tools. And preferably, a way to update those, automatically.
5:21 AM
5:54 AM
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Manually reported answer: Lossy ASCII art compression by Boi on codegolf.SE
The relevant info has been edited into the FAQ, so this is now a dupe.
6:30 AM
@FTP I guess one of the command involves kicking the server.
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Link at end of answer: Interactive plots in Jupyter by Andrey on datascience.SE
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in body, pattern-matching website in body, potentially bad keyword in body, potentially bad keyword in title, potentially bad keyword in username: How Does It Work Tryvix? by tryvix on astronomy.SE
6:54 AM
@SmokeDetector Too long reasons for a short title.
waiting for Long Path Reason Tool spam
7:08 AM
@Catija hmm? What question? Generally, I agree it's useless to ask SE staff to migrate things or to flag asking to migrate. They migrate on-spot, when seeing something worth migrating, but that's about it. /cc @Ano
(same thing as with off topic questions on MSE)
FTP and HTTP... who is the soup and who is the meat balls? o_O
@Catija Again, I'd like to apologize for the tone I used in those messages. After having reread my messages, I see where you are coming from.
@Ano nicely done.
I also realized that something was unclear: I wasn't referring to your "I don't really care" message in my message below that; I was referring to your comment on the dupe. This one:
That popup is specific to SO, so I'm not sure what about your question makes it inappropriate for MSO rather than MSE? — Catija 14 hours ago
7:31 AM
@ShadowtheHedgehog I also mod-flagged the question requesting that the comments be cleaned as they are just unrelated meta-discussion.
Why is Joe Friend's answer not floated to the top anymore, even though it's accepted? Was the behavior changed recently? meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/363148/…
@Ano it's the top one for me.
@HTTP Really? I'm sorting in the default order (votes) and I see the +71 non-accepted answer before the -72 accepted one
I accepted this answer since it properly explains why the 404 polyglot was removed, but have also downvoted it as I want it back. — gparyani Feb 10 at 19:44
I just tried it. Even changing all the sort and it's still at the top.
@HTTP Figured out. Blame SOUP.
@Ano what question?
7:43 AM
@ShadowWizard The one you just used Chaos Control on.
@Ano it is, you're either on "oldest" or "active" sort, not "votes".
3 mins ago, by Ano
@HTTP Figured out. Blame SOUP.
God is such a genius, for putting an organic cpu inside a pile of meat and make the meat think for itself
@Ano uninstall SOUP, since you're really active it's going to give you lots more of those. It's changing the behavior of the sites on purpose so of course you'll be confused.
@TelautonomousKitty we are organic cpu! beep
7:46 AM
@ShadowWizard I've just installed it to fix one bug that's bugging me...that said, I'll take care to disable SOUP before reporting a bug to see if SOUP causes it. Thankfully I didn't ping Shog.
@Ano waste of SE staff time... it's just comments. There are thousands, maybe millions of useless comments on MSE. If SE staff will have to clean them all up, they'll work on this 24/7 for 100 years or so. Not a good idea.
And actually the comments aren't 100% useless, they explain the process of closing the question as duplicate. Personally I'd decline the flag to delete them.
@Ano yeah but you'll surely encounter lots more of those "hey, this doesn't work" or "hey, behavior changed", so don't forget to disable SOUP as first thing.
Next: a browser extension "Am I losing my mind!?" that will open the same website. In incognito/private mode.
8:05 AM
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] URL in title, bad NS for domain in body, bad NS for domain in title, blacklisted website in body, blacklisted website in title: evergreendrug.com/malegenix/ by vmkbntqrh on apple.SE
8:36 AM
@ShadowWizard As I said before, one should be pretty careful when using such words to describe a fandom, since they often carry very different meanings for different persons. To be more specific, that term is mostly used with a negative connotation.
otaku... weebo...
Another day, Same question
@Derpy I lost you. What words exactly? "like"? I start to think it's better to leave you alone since you see any word as negative.
I just said "I think [someone] will like [something]". How can this be negative??????? sigh.
8:48 AM
@ShadowWizard Yep, sorry. Probably it would have been more clear if I replied to Rouge instead, but what I meant is that I would prefer to not be associated with the term "furry fandom"
@Derpy only @Rouge is furry, not you. But since you try to turn her into "your side", think it's just fair she's trying to turn you into "her side". Even though I didn't find any negative meaning to "furry fandom" I'll not use those words while mentioning you any more, after this very message.
As now, I am not even sure I would want to use the term "MLP fandom" since there are also people that think that cupcakes is a fandom work.
requesting list of "safe words" from @Derpy
@ShadowWizard that's probably because the meaning you give to that word is far less negative that the meaning other people give to it. Even on this chat. This is the reason I was suggesting to be careful with words.
@Derpy words are just words.. one can either say them or not say them. I'll not say the "f" word (ending with "dom") any more when replying to you or mentioning you in any way.
I honestly didn't know that word could have negative meaning, so I'm sorry.
Relax... it's a cultural difference... and something that "you know it's bad when you know it"
1 hour later…
10:06 AM
@ShadowWizard it is not the word "fandom", it was the other one. Again, don't worry, it's not like I am angry or anything. I just don't want other users start posting jokes that could easily escalate.
10:16 AM
10:27 AM
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Username similar to website in answer: What is the best icon to represent the shopping cart for an e-commerce store? by Template On Web on graphicdesign.SE
10:55 AM
so like today I visited a building/construction company to discuss a potential construction project, on the monitor of this sales person, one tab was on stackoverflow about looping through something using VBA
@TelautonomousKitty 2018. VBA.
pretty good for a sales person in the building industry :p
11:21 AM
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad NS for domain in body: How to Writing Blogs on Travel by writingtips on travel.SE
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1:27 PM
Unexpected election drama
Q: Can We Have Auto Removal of Election Candidate?

Rajeev K TomyWe have an election happening in Magento StackExchange. One of the candidate who is nominated for the election is now suspended by one of the moderator. But the problem is, his nomination is still there for the election. Before this suspension, he had sufficient reputation score to apply for a...

I edited it since you oneboxed it:
Q: Automatically remove election candidates if they get suspended after nomination

Rajeev K TomyWe have an election happening in Magento StackExchange. One of the candidate who is nominated for the election has been suspended by a moderator. But the problem is, his nomination is still there for the election. Before this suspension, he had sufficient reputation score to apply for an elect...

@Shog9 Since you implemented the feature to disallow candidates who have been suspended in the past year, pinging you.
The feature is a script checking for prior suspensions, but there are edge cases. Some suspensions are reversed.
Maybe this one is unjustified, who knows.
1:41 PM
Magento is an unusual site. 20 candidates already. They should share some with sleepy betas that can't find any.
Also, they don't like comment flags. I got more declined flags on Magento than anywhere else, by a wide margin.
Marius is a notable mod.
I'm under the impression elections are still manual as are disqualifications
and its status rejected already
2:12 PM
Tim is quick today.
and noticed his new DP
selfie with coffee cofie
One thing I noticed in the election page is most of the candidates are from India
2/ 3 of them are from Kerala
@OptimusPrime also his location changed from Mandaluyong, Philippines to Baltimore, Maryland.
2:35 PM
@ShadowWizard no more CMs in my neck of the woods :(
(well, phillippines is... 2 countries and a few small seas away but... CLOSE ENOUGH)
@OptimusPrime pretty certain everyone of those know each other
@JourneymanGeek :(
@JourneymanGeek mod ring!
@ShadowWizard noticed that too. But don't know where Maryland located.
@JourneymanGeek time to migrate
When SO started to show avatar of person who involved in last activity in home page? Previously it was Answered X minutes ago {{Name}} {{rep}}
@ShadowWizard nyc free hand circle by google
@ShadowWizard Can you delete this answer?
For reasons of public reputation, I need to delete the question.
@OptimusPrime hmm?
that deletion looks better for him than you
@ɪʙᴜɢ public reputation? Sorry, please be more clear.
3:02 PM
also, (to tell the truth) I don't think there's any internal difference
@ShadowWizard "liaisional reasons" (sorry for bad English)
@ɪʙᴜɢ so flag your question and ask to disassociate it from your account... I still stand behind my answer and what you asked is legit.
that makes even mess sense @ɪʙᴜɢ
@OptimusPrime screenshot? A/B test?
@ShadowWizard Undo's right. I shouldn't use expressions that sound like "I'm on behalf of Charcoal"
3:05 PM
@OptimusPrime not in home page, only in questions page. There's big difference between those views, always was.
Homepage is quick overview, Questions page has more details.
Click SO logo to reach the actual homepage.
@ɪʙᴜɢ so.... edit your question? Why delete it?
Anyway, the cake is not a lie.
It was real, and very yummy. :P
Where am I now?
Ah right it's the questions page
I had many cakes since then, but none as good as that one was.
@ShadowWizard OK, Art edited it for me
Sorry for bothering
@ɪʙᴜɢ good! :)
@ɪʙᴜɢ all good
In my personal opinion, SO should look like Facebook
or twitter
3:10 PM
@OptimusPrime -1
If SO will look like Facebook it will cease to exist.
Most core users will leave, leaving behind a charred corpse.
or Git hub where people who want to ask question should make a new issue, people who are going to answer will make PR's mentioning the issue. All of them should be done via terminal and there should be no GUI
And all those design tests they're doing lately on SO are dangerous.... people start to lose their patience.
That's what I said. There should be only CLI and no GUI
I am not sure whether SO treated my issue as security vulnerability. If yes, are they still maintaining HoF?
No idea what all those three letters shortcuts are, except GUI.
command line interface = cmd/terminal/bash/etc
house of... friend?
3:17 PM
Hamburger of Fate?
When someone is too familiar with something, they automatically assume everyone are familiar with it.
@ShadowWizard ah CLI Command Line Interface, HoF -> Hall of Fame
They removed the "Hall of Fame" long ago.
@ShadowWizard like, MSE = Math Stack Exchange ;)
I visited the Monero Elections page and many candidates used MSE for Monero Stack Exchange. I left a comment under one of the nomination asking him to edit it to Monero SE
3:21 PM
oh wait, it's there... either my memory failed me, or they removed it and brought it back. stackexchange.com/about/security
So you expect your name to appear there for 2018? @Optimus
And it didn't feel pointless? Not even a bit? On Monero, MSE means Monero SE. On Math, it means Math SE. And so on.
And yet, how about CS.SE ...
Magento down to 18 candidates
Still, that's enough for like 6 sites.
@HTTP I didn't hear anything about CogSci.SE changing name to Psychology.SE ...
3:29 PM
All that matters is that there are 3-4 good candidates for the 2 slots. :)
@OptimusPrime so only Dwarf Fortress players will use the site?
3:39 PM
Wasn't OP of this question suspended recently?
Looks like they're back to their old habits of trolling around. Hope the next suspension is permanent.
@ShadowWizard yes, the suspension wasn't that long (1 week?)
@MarcGravell Given a big enough hammer, every server can be broken even before connecting it to a power line.
@HTTP buh... too bad.
TIL I'm a bad person for shopping at Amazon and using AWS all the time. meta.stackexchange.com/a/307251
3:48 PM
I should also reduce my students' grade if they live in a dorm and consistently neglect to flush. Externalities cannot be ignored.
@ShadowWizard Well, it's not my decision. If they consider it as a security issue, then I hope they will list it there.
Jeremy is in the list. He was a Staff right?
Given the Hardness is very low but the impact is medium
@OptimusPrime yeah, around the years listed. Interesting, didn't notice it before.
Maybe he got hired as result of reporting security flaws....
@ShadowWizard maybe we should stop feeding the edit war
@FTP how you know they neglect to flush?
@rene why? It would raise flags, maybe someone will do something to stop it. (i.e. suspend that troll.)
4:04 PM
could be but a certain CM once said that most trolls don't like being ignored ...
so let's try that ...
In the past I used to post comments about it, but @Adam made me realize at some point it's doing more harm than good.
yeah, I was also about to comment
So I just roll back without commenting about it, which is indeed feeding the troll.
But I was strong, and didn't
4:06 PM
Yeah, it seems there are 3 downvote magnets on Meta (MSE & MSO)...
I flagged it and asked for them to lock it.
There are enough campus gossip sites to know something about everyone.
@Catija curious to know when your flag will be handled. After 10 such flags or so I submitted took over a month each to get any attention I stopped flagging on MSE.
Also, some of the workers that are allegedly treated badly by Amazon were probably engaging in domestic violence. I say they had it coming.
4:10 PM
@ShadowWizard All of my recent flags have been handled, actually... I submitted a few moderator comment flags last night... flagged a post that'd been CWed unnecessarily... comments were removed, CW was, too.
@ShadowWizard the same moment the auto-flag from the rollback war will be noticed :/
Oooh, and now they're on a network-wide suspension...
@Catija on MSE? Nice... maybe it's just me then. Oh well.
@Catija who?
@ShadowWizard Nah, for the longest time I wasn't flagging because of the same feeling... but this recent stuff... I've been doing more. Even if it takes a bit for them to get to the flags. they're doing them. :D
@HTTP noticed != handled
4:12 PM
@ShadowWizard Black and white
@FTP that's creepy!
Yep, just refer to Derpy Hooves page on the MLP wikia.
@Catija well, at some point bluefeet told me to stop flagging after I asked what's going on with my flags... too lazy to find it, but it was the last straw.
I still find myself flagging on rare occasions when I can't resist, but much less than before. :)
@ShadowWizard don't you get it? It is you! They like @Catija more ...
4:17 PM
@Catija oh, not sure who that is. (looks like that one wasn't very active on MSE.)
@HTTP Thanks. I had managed to forget Big Rigs existence. Until now.
Now that's weird, my answer to the spam/rude flag difference went from -3 to +3 after the question was edited. Not complaining, but wonder if it's related.
Some time ago a question was posted on Meta about a offensive post being used as a review audit. Cannot find the question anymore. Was it deleted?
4:35 PM
@Derpy There were a few of them
Hang on, I'll find the canonical
@Derpy It was on MSO. There was another on MSE which I can't seem to find, so if your memory is telling you it was there, then it probably was deleted (though deleted:all isn't turning it up either)
@ShadowWizard Or else he found security issues in modules which he didn't worked
4:53 PM
But Since Adam told me to disclose it, I think they didn't consider it as a security issue @Sha
sock of Shog entered
Can a dev say what happened here please?
Q: Users monthly reputation tab is displaying only one result

SarvabhoumaWhen we click on monthly users reputation page and select month tab, the names of the users and the reputation earned are not shown as intended. It returns only one result. link : https://hinduism.stackexchange.com/users?tab=Reputation&filter=month Only a user name is being displayed. It wo...

@OptimusPrime A good friend. ;)
@rene Nah, I'm pretty sure they don't like me at all :P
@ShadowWizard The have a very... black and white view of things. :P
@NogShine Sounds like a continuation of the weirdness going on from @MarcGravell kicking the system too hard. :P
Uhh... should I be worry about SE server being in a quantum state recently?
define quantum state?
we're investigating a cache oddity, but if you're seeing something specific: would love to hear about it
5:11 PM
well, in the end, it's always caching...
5:29 PM
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in answer, blacklisted website in answer, pattern-matching website in answer: How does Excel 2010 use RAM? by ChrisGreenwalt on superuser.com
5:41 PM
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Username similar to website in answer: ¿Cual es la mejor práctica para crear un Index en SQL Server? by DBAdixit on es.stackoverflow.com
6:02 PM
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Offensive title detected: Como pedo utilizar el lector de huellas eikon mini desde C#? by Deivi Hernández on es.stackoverflow.com
6:17 PM
This should have been a duplicate of: meta.stackexchange.com/questions/73566/…rene 20 secs ago
/cc @ShadowWizard ^
6:49 PM
Saw this on facebook
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8:17 PM
@OptimusPrime yup, until very recently
8:28 PM
@rene can't reopen, so hammer not relevant...
@Catija guess more black than white... ;)
@OptimusPrime might be...
@Shadow the Cake Wizard :P
8:41 PM
Does @Haney still owns The Stack Snippet editor? I had a wild idea here but that was dismissed. I hoped to relieve some of the need to more regularly update the versions of the offered libraries.
1 hour later…
9:58 PM
I'm bored and feel overly throttled :-(
^at my remaining channels to contribute at SE
10:42 PM
How do I explicitly grant write access for a user with less than 20 reputation in a chat room?
You can't unless you're a moderator, IIRC
Sounds about right... write?
Hmm... Well, I just wanted to grant explicit write access for this user in this room
But alas, I cannot.
@JennaSloan sure, why not. done
10:57 PM
@AdamLear Wow! Thank you!
np :)
Um... @AdamLear is "retards" on the single flag delete for comments list? Can it be if not?
@Catija No idea off the top of my head. I see/agree with the rationale, but it can also be a verb? Albeit uncommonly used.
It can, sure... but I don't know if it'd be likely flagged r/a if it were used that way? I admit that I hadn't thought of that usage.
Yeah, that does seem unlikely
Confirmed: it's not on the list right now
11:15 PM
@AdamLear Thanks for checking :D
11:38 PM
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@SmokeDetector fp-
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