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12:03 AM
But the question really is, what is cheesecake - cake or pie?
Given the intense interest in my marital debates, I have decided to share the most intense knock-down, drag-out argument my spouse and I have had in our 16-year relationship. Is cheesecake a “cake” or a “pie”?
why do we love crepes but hate creeps?
I am touching /etc/network/interfaces again, let's hope this time I setup wifi successfully instead of taking ethernet down ...
@Catija All I know is that it's the opposite of Boston cream pie.
12:21 AM
looks like there is a typo in /etc/wpa_supplicant/wpa_supplicant.conf that's why it's not working
there should be a # in front of PSK
now wifi working fine ...
my $500 drone is coming today, I better not crash and break it too soon
12:49 AM
Welcome to February!
2 hours later…
2:28 AM
@Catija flan. #hottakeservedcold
define: gross revenue
revenue that people don't want?
Ah, I kept trying to imagine it as a typo of "hotcake"
3:07 AM
Oh gosh, DIY drone, so many wires to connect and so many components to install
fortunately I am an experienced DIY person ...
Do-It-Your-Do-It-Yourself drone
3:30 AM
4:04 AM
haven't completed installing, lost a tiny screw already
found a tiny screw ... that belongs to somewhere else :'(
4:53 AM
I ain't no coder...
but isn't this some dialect of XML? meta.stackexchange.com/questions/306487/…
Yeah, it's XML, with " escaped with `\`.
how do i code block \ ...
5:09 AM
@JourneymanGeek I'm willing to bet it's C++ with a string of MRML code. (Not that it matters anymore.)
@Catija Just a quick question: how do you pronounce your username? I've been thinking of it as "ca-tee-ha", but is that correct? (If that "j" sound is unfamiliar to you or anyone else reading this, it comes from Spanish, and I think that way because of my San Diegan background.)
@SonictheAnonymousHedgehog Ask @Shog9
The j is a y sound. Kah-tya.
@Catija Ah, thanks. Out of curiosity, what culture did that come from?
5:18 AM
@SonictheAnonymousHedgehog My head by way of... something? I don't actually remember... I tend to attribute it to Russian but it's probably not. My name is "Catherine"... and "Catja" is a variant of it in various European countries... adding the i in the middle made it unique enough that I could get it as a username most anywhere.
@Catija Ah, that makes sense.
Well, at least it makes sense to someone.
5:39 AM
@Catija So what exactly are the stickers for? SXSW?
@SonictheAnonymousHedgehog No... they're for Charcoal...
@Catija If the plan materializes, when do you expect stickers to be distributed? Because if it's after May I will need them shipped to a different address, in San Diego
Hopefully sooner than that... but you can ping me or Art at some point if you need to change your address between when we collect it and when they get shipped.
@Catija And I worded that a bit weird, I meant are they planning to be distributed at SXSW as well?
@SonictheAnonymousHedgehog Oh, no. There's no charcoal presence at SX as far as I'm aware... not sure SE does anything, either.
5:42 AM
@Catija And I believe I said in the form that if I'm here in Austin, it's more convenient for me to just pick them up than have them mailed, to reduce cost and because traditional mail service is slow where I live
Where you live?
@Catija On the main UT campus
Do you live in Jester?
@Catija No, I live somewhere on the other side of campus, I'm not disclosing where exactly because this room is public
I didn't realize that mail distro to the dorms was bad, though.
Nah, that's OK. :)
5:44 AM
@Catija Package delivery is fine, because you can pick them up from the front desk, but they take a long time to put mail into mailboxes
I think that if Art keeps moving forward, we're looking at about 2 weeks to get the forms out and back from people, 2 weeks to order the stickers/wait for printing... a week for shipping here... so maybe in time for Spring Break... and, somewhat amusingly, SX... But Art's in charge of the timeline, I'm just a shipping agent.
@Catija Ah, I see.
5:58 AM
@JonEricson heh, XML dialect ;p but yes, dosen't matter.
6:58 AM
@SmokeDetector So Smokey now does post reports in the same room where they originated?
There was a five-minute delay
7:36 AM
A user on IPS.SE; 4 out of 4 questions got into HNQ.
sensible questions I hope? No pun intended
Mmm,,, fairly complex situation with potential material for TV drama
Might want to pop the mods a note then
something similar happened on WP a little back
But I guess according to their mods, it's still under control. The question has been protected (well, I guess because of HNQ)... and Shadow has mentioned this user too before
ah, then its probably in good hands.
7:52 AM
@SmokeDetector vandalism
@SmokeDetector now that's a drama on the comment...
@SonictheAnonymousHedgehog can't unregistered users delete their own question?
It is offered a few times in the comments but OP doesn't seem to get that.
Ok, that explains
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9:07 AM
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9:21 AM
A: New/unregistered users should be able to delete their own answers

Jeff AtwoodThis is by-design. If you want to delete posts (remember, a delete is considered a vote) then you have to use a registered account. Cookie-based accounts don't support voting, therefore they don't support deletion. So if you want to nag the user to register so he or she can delete their own st...

@SensibleAlexander probably 100% fake, yeah.
Jan 14 at 9:53, by Shadow the Hedgehog Wizard
smells like yet another troll (i.e. making up a story on purpose) but... who knows
Yeah that's the one I reported to @Catija long ago.
Must admit, if he'll write books instead, they can sell pretty well.
He makes up good stories, lots of drama.
9:37 AM
@Shadow Looking for a good quote by the actual Sonic the Hedgehog to report a bug about too long tags
@ShadowtheHedgehogWizard thanks, makes sense
@Shadow You looking?
@SonictheAnonymousHedgehog hmm? Didn't get you, sorry... what bug with too long tags?
There are many, I think.
@ShadowtheHedgehogWizard No spoilers
9:44 AM
@ShadowtheHedgehogWizard What's a good one?
@ShadowtheHedgehogWizard not the bug with too long tags, but the quote...
So something I said about too long tags?
Sorry guys, no time for games now... will play later! :)
@ShadowtheHedgehogWizard I prefer something Sonic said, but a quote by Shadow is good too
@ShadowtheHedgehogWizard No problem, I found a good one
Got it straight from your avatar
You're... welcome. I guess. lol. (i.e. no idea what's going on, but glad you're satisfied. ;))
10:00 AM
Q: Tag length increase from 25 to 35 characters was not actually done here on MSE

Sonic the Anonymous HedgehogThe tag character limit was supposedly increased from 25 to 35 characters "on all sites". However, here on MSE, the tag length increase was not actually implemented. As would be expected, you get an error message when you try to create a tag that is longer than 35 characters: That example was...

Sonic quotes!
Why the downvote?
We don't need those longer tagnames on MSE ...
I haven't voted yet. I can see this as a reasonable meta post (since Shog indeed says "all sites"), but I doubt if we need it on MSE.
@rene But it contradicts Shog's post, which says it's on all sites, hence a valid bug
Either it will be fixed or the answer there will be edited to say "all sites except MSE".
@rene not related to the bug report though. :)
@Shog said "all sites", MSE is a site, so either Shog was wrong, or it's actually a bug.
though, yeah, I'd expect to post a comment on Shog's answer first clarifying "seems MSE is not affected" before posting a bug report directly...
10:14 AM
I voted only according to this. (i.e. appears like valid bug report, be it by design or not.)
@SensibleAlexander not really, no need to bother him by comment IMO.
@JourneymanGeek OP of now-deleted OT question responded "ok" to my comment
The latest?
@SensibleAlexander A mod edited the edit summary (the "comment")
Q: Allow mods to edit revision comments

Won'tNice hole in the system... You can pretty much say anything in a revision comment and it cannot be removed or cleaned up by a mod. See https://stackoverflow.com/revisions/3405175/4 for an example. Mods need the ability to at least remove the comment, if not the ability to edit the text of it.

10:21 AM
wow, first time seeing it
If the edit was a suggested edit, the original comment is still visible in the edit review link
10:54 AM
Congratulation, SO!
Interesting times?
also what the heck is luakit?
Comments are second-class citizens, so stop reporting bugs about them
11:09 AM
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Manually reported answer: Dilemma after someone else edits a spam post by alia0arora on meta.SE
That one actually needs a staffer to nuke the account, ideally ;p
@rene hm
@MrLister I'd be tempted to call that a feature, but I'll let Balpha know (he's responsible for today's comment shenanigans) — Tim Post ♦ 17 hours ago
I think @balpha's name is mispelled there ;p
Mis cased?
yeah, a lot of people at the company have (more or less recently) started doing that, not sure why
sometimes I correct them, sometimes I let it go :)
11:33 AM
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Blacklisted user: Js broken in Backend Magento 2 by Charm Edward on magento.SE
Choose one:
a) I have started a free muffin giveout for anyone willing to switch to "Balpha" in order to annoy you
b) it is a sophisticate trap to get your attention: you will answer the call to correct their spelling... and they get to ask you whatever was on their mind.
c) search isn't case sensitive, so if searching for "balpha" gives the same results of searching for "Balpha", this means that the spelling is irrelevant. Ergo, either you fix the search or you would look hypocrite by complaining... which means someone outside there wants you to fix the search.
wait, forgot one option:
e) naming convention requires employee names to be Pascal Case
12:03 PM
@Derpy That reply doesn't show correctly
This is your "lucky" day @balpha meta.stackexchange.com/q/306506/158100 :(
It is maybe a bit late to go back to bed, but you could consider to call it a day early :)
@SonictheAnonymousHedgehog you mean this?
oops wrong bug
but pretty sure it's reported already, multi line reply borks the design.
@ShadowtheHedgehogWizard That is the right bug
@ShadowtheHedgehogWizard 🐛
@rene wow this browser is broken
12:11 PM
@balpha yeah, you might want to consider to call it unsupported to prevent being sucked in for eternity
@balpha maybe better just not support it, same way SE does not support old browsers like IE6.
SE should not spend too much time on bugs in browsers.
I prefer the time spent on better things.
oh @rene was faster. o_O
@Derpy it's too hairy
bug isn't hairy
but ... but ... my [put favorite site here] does work flawlessly ... why can't U make it worky?
@rene yeah, shouldiblamecaching.com works... or does it?
12:48 PM
@balpha Can you look into meta.stackexchange.com/questions/306500/… please?
@balpha easy fix: put a trigger in the database that automatically changes Balpha to balpha. You win. :D
@SonictheAnonymousHedgehog any reason you're pinging me in particular? or just because I happen to be here? :)
@balpha Just decided to change it up, I kept pinging Shog before so thought I'd pick you
@ShadowtheHedgehogWizard sure, do you have the database credentials for trello, google docs, slack, etc. handy? :)
@balpha sending you now
12:53 PM
Actually, I might as well ping @Shog9 because he implemented the new character limit
@SonictheAnonymousHedgehog doubt he implemented it, he's not a developer. Looks like he just announced it.
@ShadowtheHedgehogWizard He can tweak system settings, though.
@SonictheAnonymousHedgehog but the real question is, why are you pinging anyone? It's not an emergency and by pinging devs/staff about items that aren't urgent you could be pulling away from other things that need their attention.
deja vu...
You reported it 2 hours ago, it's not urgent and don't need to ping anyone to look at it.
12:56 PM
@SonictheAnonymousHedgehog doubt there's a setting, i.e. that someone tweaked it on all 160+ sites
@bluefeet I told you...in my mind, everything is critical
@bluefeet pinning someone is terrible.
@ShadowtheHedgehogWizard Easy to write a script to do so, Shog can do that
@SonictheAnonymousHedgehog not database level
only JS
@SonictheAnonymousHedgehog yeah, you did, but I'm saying you should probably reconsider that behavior after you've been told to not ping everyone about things
12:58 PM
@bluefeet Adam Lear once said, I should report even trivial issues, because they are "super easy and trivial to fix". Thus, I don't believe I'm taking away so much time
@bluefeet I'm A-spec
@SonictheAnonymousHedgehog and you reported it on Meta, pinging an employee is very different
(Advance disclaimer: people like me tend to speak their minds fully, in a very brutally honest matter.)
The question is: should I do something that is tried-and-true in my mind, which works to get bugs fixed faster and without much question from those involved, or should I follow the advice of someone who wasn't involved in any of that stuff tell me I'm doing something wrong, when I have clear examples that tell me otherwise?
if the advice is a written order from your superior, go for it
Otherwise, don't
I've been told several times IRL that that person isn't telling me because it's considered "impolite" to do so, but I prefer that they tell me, otherwise I keep doing it.
@SonictheAnonymousHedgehog does each and every single person need to tell you? ._.
1:08 PM
What if we say... don't?
Cause erm, I'm pretty sure I mentioned that we're discouraged from doing so before.
And I do kinda note this is one of those places staff drop by and talk about stuff, so constantly bugging them isn't cool
(I personally like to speak out my thoughts. A lot of people mistake that as me trying to prove some point, even though I'm not.)
Look - from the prior cases, I formed the pattern - unfixed bug? ping an employee about it, it will be fixed in 6-8 hours - and I kept applying that pattern. At no point at the time was I ever told that it's a bad idea, and discouraged - so I incorporated that into my answer, and kept doing so.
@SonictheAnonymousHedgehog ...
Dec 15 '17 at 6:57, by Catija
You don't always need to ping a CM for everything. Use the actual proper channels or else you're likely to annoy them... and you really don't want an annoyed Shog looking your way.
I would be really hesitant to mention the active stalking of SE devs as a valid option. I mean, we know it works for the few that are active in a specific chat room but in general ... I dunno ... nothing gets done, every bug will jump the queue .... — rene 2 days ago
I'd note that pinging employees for stuff other than utter emergencies is kinda discouraged for mods - Its entirely possible employees might hang out on chat to, I donno, actually socialise. I'd do it if possible, if I ended up working at SE ;p — Journeyman Geek 2 days ago
Jul 14 '17 at 13:11, by Oded
Then stop pinging me about every little thing that happens. There's meta. One opens bugs there. That should be enough - unless there's something urgent (which non of the things you have pinged me about are).
@SonictheAnonymousHedgehog You seem to be ignoring everyone who says its a bad idea.
1:18 PM
@JourneymanGeek In my mind, that was just another person telling me on how they think someone would feel if I did something. I did it again, and he (apparently) wasn't annoyed, so I thought she was wrong and formed another basis for that pattern.
@JourneymanGeek "at the time" was before I posted that answer.
@JourneymanGeek Same ^^
@SonictheAnonymousHedgehog so, multiple people have told you. You're still doing it, and having some cognitive dissonance to boot
@SensibleAlexander I wasn't even here at that time, just editing anonymously...plus he said he prefers not to be pinged about it. He didn't mention anything about anyone else.
So please don't give us the "no one told me"
At this point, we'd need a marching smurf band with fireworks spelling out "Don't ping people for attention" to be more clear
@SonictheAnonymousHedgehog Pinging employees takes their attention away from what they were working on, at that time. I liken it to The Boy Cried Wolf, at some point your pings will be noise and won't get attention. If you find a bug, report it on Meta - that's the proper place to get attention to an issue.
At least that's what I found when searching stop pinging on this chat room
1:21 PM
@JourneymanGeek You told me you didn't want to be pinged for requests to use your Chaos Emeralds, so I stopped, and only ping rene and Shadow, who told me I could. At no point at that time did they themselves tell me they didn't want to be pinged for bugs.
why are we even calling them chaos emeralds? ._.
@SonictheAnonymousHedgehog see...
14 mins ago, by Journeyman Geek
@SonictheAnonymousHedgehog does each and every single person need to tell you? ._.
@JourneymanGeek Because @Shadow's avatar shows him holding one, and he was a frequent duplicate closer at the time
Okay, you guys told me, and I won't do it. I just wanted to explain my behavior and my thoughts at the time, which led to my putting that into my answer. I wasn't trying to prove that it's a good idea, let alone anything.
13 mins ago, by Sonic the Anonymous Hedgehog
(I personally like to speak out my thoughts. A lot of people mistake that as me trying to prove some point, even though I'm not.)
eh, I commented on your answer. We're talking about here
(tbh, I'm probably stepping on @bluefeet's toes here, and she has things under control but, its gotta be said)
@bluefeet That story is totally different. That guy totally lied about incidents, while I reported true incidents that I genuinely considered critical
@SonictheAnonymousHedgehog if you're considering everything critical... nothing is
1:29 PM
yeah, that plurality issue on multiple times awarded badge is certainly critical...
@SonictheAnonymousHedgehog That's why I say I 'liken' it to that story. You're reporting everything as critical by pinging people, when it's not.
I had... oh, couple of thousand spammers on my site and others. Most of the initial interaction with TPTB was over meta. I think shog updated me a few times, and I did sort of get pinged by other mods.
@JourneymanGeek nope, you're good. ;)
The only other time I've pinged a CM was a persistant troll, and we eventually worked out a more efficient way to ruin his day ;)
@bluefeet I genuinely believed it to be critical. It's a blatant contradiction between an employee's official post and the actual system behavior. That needs to be fixed immediately.
1:31 PM
Well recently
@SonictheAnonymousHedgehog "needs to"
Oddly enough we're not the best people to make that judgement
Does this, perhaps, affect core functionality of the site?
@SensibleAlexander I tend to agree.
@SonictheAnonymousHedgehog Wrong. It should be fixed. But "needs to" is not correct. The alternative is that the statement should be fixed.
@SonictheAnonymousHedgehog I've worked tech support. The best place I've worked in had a very very strict policy of tickets - if someone calls you, there's no trail of what's been done, and who did it, and no way to pass it on
@JourneymanGeek What do you mean?
Pings work the same way. By posting on meta, you have space to give troubleshooting steps, we're told the devs/cm team monitors the site, and its probably got a ticket somewhere that's being worked on.
1:35 PM
@SonictheAnonymousHedgehog Hmm... perhaps... all bugs/inconsistencies are critical to be fixed for you?
@SonictheAnonymousHedgehog hey I am still a FDC!
If you ping someone, you're basically assuming they're free to work on your problem
@ShadowtheHedgehogWizard I forgot to say "(and still is)"
@JourneymanGeek Shog always seemed free. He'd go out of his way to go fix these kinds of issues. At no point did he tell me he was bothered by it.
eh. "Seems"
Ever thought he might just want to... I donno, talk about his tomatos?
kick back those big CM boots and relax?
Others did tell me that he could be bothered by it, but I dismissed those claims as wrong because of what he'd do
1:38 PM
Let me rephrase the question: is there an example of a bug that you considered non-critical on SE?
see, listening to others is good.
That is incredibly arrogant. "Hm, he seems free. Might as well make them do something I want right now."
@SensibleAlexander hah, I once had a FR fixed... years later, and no one realised it was fixed. ;p
28 mins ago, by Sonic the Anonymous Hedgehog
(I personally like to speak out my thoughts. A lot of people mistake that as me trying to prove some point, even though I'm not.)
@SmokeDetector Protected by Community just now
1:39 PM
There is a difference between speaking your thoughts and assuming someone is free to do work for you.
Mar 15 '14 at 0:08, by Shog9
That said, if it's important to you, don't hesitate to ping me - I'll do my best to look it over & give you my opinion.
@bluefeet looks like Shog is a very rare type of people, who don't mind pings.
(probably the only one SE staff :))
You realize that's from 4 years ago, right.
Also, pretty sure Shog isn't shy person... if pings from @Sonic would have bothered him, he would have said so.
still more up to date than the help section :P
1:41 PM
@ShadowtheHedgehogWizard Told you @JourneymanGeek
@ShadowtheHedgehogWizard @SonictheAnonymousHedgehog eh, its more of a general thing?
That said, he did kick someone in Den after pinging him just for fun.
You were told. You were told to take it to to meta.
@ShadowtheHedgehogWizard I never ping for fun, except for Rouge
@ShadowtheHedgehogWizard I can't speak to that, but he also said those words almost 4 years ago. ;P
1:43 PM
@bluefeet Shog now is just like Shog in my previous incarnation.
These types of contradictions have always bothered me. These were present in FAQs, which had long since been updated and whatnot. That's why I spent so much time overhauling the FAQs as Ano.
@SonictheAnonymousHedgehog well, taking into account my experiences with your previous incarnation, I get the feeling its more about attention then importance.
I guess I have to step back from the conversation for now, because if I speak out my thoughts, I'd probably get into a really bad mood before sleeping...
aft (away from tavern)
I'm having to be mindful of be nice myself
@SonictheAnonymousHedgehog I know, hence I support you.
@JourneymanGeek I'm not quite the attention seeker I was before...if I was, I would have reported a bug regarding a page that very little people see. (A different such bug I reported at the time, which led to Adam Lear's comment about trivial issues.)
1:47 PM
well, filing bugs the proper way is fine
You're kinda deflecting from the specific behaviour we're talking about
I mean, Alexolut posts a ton of super odd, minor bugs, and that's fine, other than the time he unaccepted 101 answers at once ....
Maybe we need a "Certified to Ping Shog" card?
@JourneymanGeek yeah, @alex is the new @nicael
@JourneymanGeek I'm not looking for attention. I just wanted the bugs fixed whenever I pinged. In fact, some of my pings were to other users' questions, not only mine.
@SonictheAnonymousHedgehog erm, dude, that's kinda the definition of seeking attention.
Even anon - there's no reason to make a big fuss over the fact you were the anonymous editor
A big fuss? I only mention that when it comes up in context.
(as in "yeah, I edited anonymously about this topic, after coming to these conclusions, etc.")
56 mins ago, by Sonic the Anonymous Hedgehog
@bluefeet I'm A-spec
or just edit things. Which is fine
In any case, I don't want to go on and on about this - I guess the broad strokes of what I intended to say. You seem skeptical about this, but eh, its worth considering what everyone has said so far.
1:57 PM
34 mins ago, by Sonic the Anonymous Hedgehog
Okay, you guys told me, and I won't do it. I just wanted to explain my behavior and my thoughts at the time, which led to my putting that into my answer. I wasn't trying to prove that it's a good idea, let alone anything.
Mar 15 '14 at 0:08, by Shog9
That said, if it's important to you, don't hesitate to ping me - I'll do my best to look it over & give you my opinion.
@Shog9 I know that's a lot to read, but here's the central question: do you still abide by that 2014 statement above?
I edited my answer, so it no longer suggests pinging SE employees in chat. @JourneymanGeek
By the way @Catija in case you happen to be wondering about my rather...odd sleep patterns for an Austinite, I sleep during the afternoon and awaken during evenings and throughout the night. This stems partially from a trip to India last winter.
2:48 PM
My rating: "... this also means that there is no settings menu jump into as per developer's request ..."
Developer response (about a year later): "... From your game go to the Settings Menu and select the Support Button. We look forward to speaking with you."
That's either a really slow robot, or a really inattentive developer.
3:03 PM
@JohnDvorak what game?
OMG.... just wrote "font-wight". self slap
3:18 PM
@JohnDvorak use Gameloft tecnique: when the rating is getting low, update the game so it will get reset.
3:44 PM
@SonictheAnonymousHedgehog I'll always just ignore pings if I don't have anything to say, provided they're not obnoxious
Though, you should probably note the context of that 2014 comment
@Shog9 I didn't find it, someone else linked it in the conversation I was having
...and I should note that I'm one answer away from a gold status-declined badge...
@Shog9 Ah, the powerful Chaos Emerald...
But you don't need Chaos Emeralds...you're already so powerful
It's not about the destination, it's about the journey. And the road paved with broken dreams
@SonictheAnonymousHedgehog diamond can vanish in a second. Badges are there for good.
(and reputation. ;))
3:49 PM
@ShadowtheHedgehogWizard Chaos Emeralds never weaken.
@SonictheAnonymousHedgehog exactly, that's why even the Mighty Shog needs them. ;)
@Shog9 So the tag limit is now 35 characters on...all sites, right?
@SonictheAnonymousHedgehog correct.
Well, probably not on Area51
@Shog9 Ah, thanks.
@Shog9 not relevant, no tags there.
4:02 PM
@Shog9 In that case, as the wise Scott once said, you're actually a biscuit away from Jeff Atwood
If there were, guess fix wasn't as simple as tweaking some setting.
@TimPost Talking about Jeff, is he back from his... "away time"?
@ShadowtheHedgehogWizard He's made blog posts
@ShadowtheHedgehogWizard I've seen him active on Twitter on and off, I think he's probably always going to be more reserved when it comes to public engagement after that kerfuffle (I mean, who wouldn't be?) but as far as I know he's back to his normal routine. But we're talking about Jeff here, 'normal' for him probably means hanging upside down in a cave.
@TimPost If he later chooses, can he simply get his diamond back, or will he need to be elected as a moderator?
new marketing idea. Starting from the next update, Windows will use idle cpu time to mine bitcoins. All the profit will go to Microsoft but the end user will get a free app-store game for every (insert number) mined coins.
4:06 PM
@Derpy I'll be paying for apps through my electricity bill, even if I don't want to.
4:27 PM
@Shog9 Someone go ask for something stupid so that Shog can answer it and decline...
@SonictheAnonymousHedgehog I doubt he would choose to get it back, but we'd give it back to him if he asked for it. The reason he wanted to have it removed was so that he wouldn't have to worry about logging in as frequently and such.
I have no idea what I just said, but go* **mmit, I meant every word of it.
Have you been without pasta for too long, Tim?
I'm making mushroom ravioli today, actually.
Crimini, porcini, goat cheese, spinach and roast garlic, simple filling but yummy.
4:40 PM
Wow, sounds amazing. How are you going to sauce it? Something simple?
Butter and parmesan.
Nice. I almost wonder if a fried sage would go in there, too.
It would. I like it, the kids don't
Ah. Well, got to keep them happy ;)
Our three year old loves to help make it, she cranks the sheeter while I feed the dough through it.
4:46 PM
That's awesome.
5:02 PM
Any wine suggestions to accomplish all that?
I don't think the 3-year-old is drinking wine.
You can't start early enough to get them used to it ... wait ...
5:18 PM
Well, I guess Ben will never like it, seeing as I didn't bottle feed him wine ;)
3 hours later…
8:11 PM
Well that's one way to deal with pinned poor accepts: stackoverflow.com/questions/2627002/…
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword with email in answer: How do I hold my knife to prevent blisters when chopping? by Jason Lee on cooking.SE
Well, they do clearly say that it's their own product... :P
@TimPost huh, thanks for the update!
8:30 PM
Major edit to this question after it was ... Rollback??? Encourage user to post a new FR? meta.stackexchange.com/q/306478/284336
8:43 PM
@Catija well, a new FR would get the same reception ... I don't feel the question is dramatically changed that it would merit a roll back, right?
Maybe address the new points with an update of your answer. But leave a comment that constantly editing to change their posts is not OK
They changed it from "allow OP to remove protection" to "allow some sort of weird private answers setting so that people with no rep can answer"...
Hmm, yeah, isn't that the same request in different wording?
Not really... if I understand it correctly
They want some way for under 10 rep users to post answers that would be invisible to everyone other than the OP of the question... so that no one has to worry about moderating them.
@Catija well that's just pure genius, why haven't we thought of that yet?
"I know it's a bad question, that's why I don't mind bad answers!"
@Catija I left a comment
8:53 PM
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword with email in answer: Is reaver working? by robandjeanne on superuser.com
@AaronHall That's the thing... the question is sitting at +60 or something... it's probably protected due to having hit the HNQ and attracting problematic answers... But they won't accept that just asking a moderator to remove the protection is going to be OK, despite there being a similar request on the Politics meta right now.
@Catija oh, that's the situation? Yeah, not obvious to noobs...
The question:
Q: Why shouldn't BBC have to register as a foreign agent?

grovkinThe British Broadcasting Corporation (BBC) is, as far as I know, a fully government-subsidized British TV channel. Does that not make it an arm of the British government? While some may point to its independence, the same is claimed for the US judiciary system. Yet no one claims that its indep...

Shog once commented about a user who emailed him a great answer to a protected question. According to him, they were an expert, but a totally new user, and thus unable to answer, but the intended answer was high-quality.
They may have others but that's the one I've been using as an example.
8:56 PM
@SonictheAnonymousHedgehog "protection" is probably over-used...
"Protection" needs an expiration date.
In that particular case, the question had been protected a long while back, and Shog unprotected it.
Yeah, that's why I've been looking for an easy way to unprotect stuff... but the UI for the protected questions page and the sorting therein is crappy and there's no way to search for protected questions on site... @rene made me a script but I've (sadly) not really employed it as of yet to see how it works.... but on IPS a lot of things get protected probably too soon and possibly unnecessarily...
"protecting" questions is the only privilege you get on the long trek from 10k to 20k rep, so it makes sense that it is overused.
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