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12:36 AM
@Bart It looks like the account is gone.
 
user202362
1:00 AM
The Australian brushturkey or Australian brush-turkey (Alectura lathami), also frequently called the scrub turkey or bush turkey, is a common, widespread species of mound-building bird from the family Megapodiidae found in eastern Australia from Far North Queensland to Illawarra in New South Wales. The Australian brushturkey has also been introduced to Kangaroo Island in South Australia. It is the largest extant representative of the family Megapodiidae and is one of three species to inhabit Australia. Despite its name and their superficial similarities, the bird is not closely related to American...
 
user202362
plenty of those in the neighbourhood park
 
@tchrist Cheers!
 
user202362
Once I saw a brush turkey on a 20 meter tree, I was totally amazed, because turkey can fly that high?? That's like seeing a chicken on the roof. Some birds, you just don't expect them can fly ...
 
1:19 AM
Most birds that don't fly we call dinosaurs.
 
user202362
Pterosaurs (/ˈtɛrəˌsɔːr, ˈtɛroʊ-/; meaning "winged lizard") are flying reptiles of the extinct clade or order Pterosauria. They existed from the late Triassic to the end of the Cretaceous (228 to 66 million years ago). Pterosaurs are the earliest vertebrates known to have evolved powered flight. Their wings were formed by a membrane of skin, muscle, and other tissues stretching from the ankles to a dramatically lengthened fourth finger. Early species had long, fully toothed jaws and long tails, while later forms had a highly reduced tail, and some lacked teeth. Many sported furry coats made up...
 
1:32 AM
I FIGURED IT OUT.
Jan 25 at 12:17, by bjb568
Haha, I did Postfix configuration once. Took a few months, but now DevDoodle email works. Sometimes. Part of me (probably sanity) died in the configuration process.
Dec 19 '15 at 4:32, by bjb568
External displays are almost as hard to set up properly as postfix.
Apparently you need to make a mail directory!
maildirmake
That makes it work!
Just that one command. The 10 other tutorials that didn't work aren't needed.
 
 
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3:34 AM
Hey Smokey you lazy hijo de puta this is offensive:
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A: "Turn out the light" vs "Turn off the light"

Pastoooooorque chingue a toda su requeteputísima madre el amierdicaaa!!!!!!

 
@Derpy If only we had had a pre-countdown countdown to remind us.
 
user202362
4:38 AM
what if someone on the plane releases a bunch of fleas & mites on to everyone on the plane, is it an act of terrorism?
 
They do it every day on the subway, so I'm gonna go with "yes".
 
user202362
but with subway, it's useless because people can get off at any time
 
user202362
imagine you are on a long haul flight, then someone releases the vermin in the first class ...
 
You can't get off any time. Have you ever been on a subway?
You're trapped with crazy people for up to a quarter of an hour at a time.
 
user202362
I am not a big fan of subway, but I can survive an hour with random people
 
4:47 AM
I would not call the distribution iid.
 
user202362
Still subway gives you way more freedom than a flight. Given long haul, even some of the bearable things become slightly unbearable after 8 hours
 
Yeah. I haven't done a lot of those, but the ones I have done weren't very pleasant.
 
 
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user315433
6:26 AM
double chocolate donuts, mmmm
 
user315433
That SU question is a spam magnet, but it's hard to say for sure it's spam.
 
user315433
Maybe deleting both of non-accepted answers as VLQ is best
 
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user202362
7:12 AM
@zaq I could not but noticing ... you have excellent sleeping pattern
 
user202362
simple and straight like the identity of a magpie raised chicken
 
9:54 AM
@MarkYisri so not murder then. Disappointing.
 
user202362
Disappeared population ... I am all suspicious ...
 
10:28 AM
Yay, another new flag account
 
11:18 AM
@Bart Well, out in the streets, they call it...
 
user202362
12:18 PM
let there be light!
 
user202362
 
@Telkitty Hmm, yeah, I know some of those symbols!
 
user202362
Those are maxwell's equation, a mathematical description of how electromagnetic waves are self inducing
 
user202362
light is a form of electromagnetic waves
 
user202362
it's a very geeky joke :p
 
12:35 PM
I guess this is how some of my friends feel when I make a programming joke :)
 
This is how I feel when most of you make a programming joke.
 
user202362
@Stijn there 10 types of people ...
 
@Telkitty those who understand binary, those who don't, and those who didn't know it was a base three joke :D
@M.A.R. tell us a chemistry joke!
 
@Stijn NaH
3
 
cute :)
 
12:47 PM
@M.A.R. I think you will like the new SharePoint collaboration portal we just deployed for your organization.
..... before someone flags this, it was a "SharePoint joke". I know that most cannot tell them apart from death threats, but as an insider I can ensure you it was one
 
@Derpy I have a SP question. The client I'm currently at has an environment hosted on something.sharepoint.com and it's slow as hell. Is that normal? I'd expect a hosted solution to be properly configured :p
 
I know 10 the 10 types. Those who understand binary and those who do not
 
1:03 PM
Facepalm Programmers, whenever will they get tired of the 10 joke?
 
@Stijn .... can I print this one and hang it on the office wall with a nice sign saying "Hopeful User"?
 
Chem jokes aren't particularly amusing either, since I never laughed at geeky puns.
And all chem jokes are puns for God's sake.
 
@Derpy Well, you just took away the last bit of hope I had :(
 
@Stijn that is the work we SharePoint developers do.
Don't see me as a wizard that will come to you, wave a wand and make your farm work beautifully.
See me as a voodoo something that will come and try to minimize the effect of the curse you already have.
(yep, "priest" cannot be used for sharepoint)
 
I bet you bring blankets and cups of hot coco to your users too then :p
there there
 
1:18 PM
this ^
oh, wait.... I have a better one.
IgnoreMeException
 
 
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2:30 PM
@Derpy :D Streisand effect?
 
@Bart more like "Dear Excel, if you let this exception propagate from the inner entropy of your cursed Excel Web App so that it bubbles up to my SharePoint page... can you tell me how do you expect me to ignore it???"
At least if I am supposed to
try{....}
catch () {/*do nothing*/}
let me know BEFORE it breaks.
documenting the issue would be a good start.
typically "please ignore me" isn't exactly going to work after I had to lose hours with reverse engineering your classes inner working
on an unrelated note, I have been watching some "let's play" of a still-in-alpha game called Hello Neighbor .
Nice idea, but the developer(s?) seems to be really unfocused.
 
Is that the horror one?
 
2:46 PM
Yep, you move to a new house and you notice your neighbor acting odd. The game has you trying to enter his house to discover what he is hiding.
The cool thing is that if he catch you, he throws you out but also do some little changes in the house based on how he thinks you managed to enter.
 
They should do an alternative game called "creepy new neighbour" where you try to prevent a neighbour from entering your house and stealing stuff.
 
Example: if you keep using the same door, expect him to first lock it and then to even barricade it
he can place traps and cams to try to stop you.
 
30 euros for early access ...
 
The idea was cool....
 
Sounds really cool indeed
 
2:49 PM
but the devs clearly haven't yet planned what the plot and the game style will be.
I saw videos from three different alphas.
The game area is completely different, almost as they kept the engine and started from scratch every time.
also....
First release: House is almost normal, neighbor acts odd like he is an alien in disguise. He keeps watching a static "no-antenna detected" TV, has water bottles all around the house, a shoe in the oven and so on. While the house isn't scary, he manages to be very creepy.
second release: house has somehow changed and now has a second floor. He acts more normal, but now the house is the odd part. It isn't "scary" as you would expect from a horror movie. The general feeling is more something like Courage the Dog or the old series "Goosebumps" .
not something that would make you stay awake at night, but can throw some odd curve-balls when you don't expect it.
For example, the new house has a room decorated like a classroom with mannequins in place of the actual students.
Third release. House is completely different. It isn't scary at all, not even creepy but has a general chaotic felling, with displaced house decor and the such. Then, after you open a locked door, you find out a dark corridor with candles that shouldn't even exist since there is no space in the house map for that.
 
Hmm, 30 euros for early access is a bit much then imo
 
So far, even with the cool idea, the actual content seems to be even more "confused" and unplanned than "Spooky's Jump Scare Mansion" (=> yep, that is the actual tittle store.steampowered.com/app/356670)
Oh, and btw since I mentioned "Spooky's Jump Scare Mansion"... please don't let the average ratings fool you.
it is bad.
very bad.
it was presented as a procedural generated "horror" game.
actually, it is a sequence of a THOUSAND of random generated room (where random is "there are 30 different rooms and some alterations like wall textures, colors and so on chosen randomly")
when a room has multiple exist, it doesn't matter what exit you choose.
every now and then, you have to escape a monster that will pursue you for about 20 rooms.
all the monsters are taken from other games or movies.
I still wonder how it managed to sell
 
3:06 PM
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Blacklisted user: how to generate (electronic energy from static energy? #CircuitModel by asmaa on electronics.stackexchange.com
 
Going through such iterations isn't that strange for an alpha game though @Derpy.
It's just that now you get to see it, where before all this pre-alpha release nonsense that was all going on behind the scenes
 
@Bart I don't know... I would expect that at least they planned the general direction the game would go.
The first release was like all the paranoia was in your mind, to the point that an ending where you discovered that nothing was strange could have worked (and possibly get mad in the process)
the second had a cartoon felling (a pool with a shark on the second floor, close the boiler downstairs so that the water freezes to cross) that made it look like a sort of stealth / point&click adventure hybrid that reminded me of a very creepy Monkey Island
 
@Derpy they may well have found that while the first iteration was great, it didn't easily extend into a longer game. Or it didn't work for their target audience. Or whatever.
 
the third one seems more like "devil house with impossible map" like you would expect from Eternal Darkness
@Bart maybe you are right, but so far I got that same "I don't know what is the plot, I will let the fan come up with one and just add random stuff" felling Five Nights at Freddy always gave me.
also, it seems pretty dangerous for them. As you said, the early access fee isn't exactly low.
if someone pays based on a version and then the next one don't even look like it is the same game... they will get mad.
 
Well, they can't do worse than No Man's Sky.
 
3:17 PM
@Stijn Spore.
 
Too long ago for me to remember :p
 
@Stijn Nintendo "it is time to SWITCH (to Ps4)"?
 
Mollyneux has a great replacement in Sean Murray
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Q: What coffee bean variety is best for light roast

user7210369What coffee bean variety is best for light roast.

 
@Bart That has to be a troll, right?
 
Let's hope so?
 
3:23 PM
Or maybe SO's google ranking now also puts it at the top for "coffee" queries :p
 
coffeescript?
 
3:54 PM
With all those weird ass library and language names, I wouldn't be surprised.
Just looking at some of our local Elixir packages here, I see Distillery, Poison and Ranch. Not to mention Poolboy.
 
:D
 
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user315433
Bitcoin site now gets spam selling wallets. And the site adfoc.us is kind of explicit in its purpose...
 
5:57 PM
@Telkitty Non-SI units detected.
 
 
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7:11 PM
52 messages moved to Chimney
Few too many moved there... oops.
:5454957 Yeah.
13 messages moved from Chimney
 
Hi all!
Quick question: anyone know off the top of their head how many votes you have to use to get onto the top voters for the week page?
 
user315433
@anonymous2 Depends on the site.
 
user315433
But there is the minimum of 10 votes, I think.
 
Okay, thanks!
@zaq Say, I know you from over on mech.SE!
 
@anonymous2 Please vote only for content, not for some superficial reward like getting on a leaderboard.
 
7:18 PM
@S.L.Barth Had nothing to do with myself. Got hit by a serial upvoter and was wondering if he would show up on top voters or not.
 
@anonymous2 Ok.
 
Not really serious, just kind of sifting through it a bit.
 
user315433
It may be 11 because SE devs are generally not very good with inequality signs.
 
In any case the system will take care of it eventually if it's important.
@zaq Ah, ok.
 
True. The reversal script runs at 3:00 AM, UTC.
...so enjoy the little rep boost while it lasts.
 
7:21 PM
Every day?
 
Yes.
 
@zaq Yup, 10 votes
 
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@M.A.R. Do you see anyone with 10 votes on that page? I checked several sites, nobody under 11.
 
@S.L.Barth Ok. Doesn't make any difference to me: doesn't bring me over 10k or anything. :)
 
@zaq I do remember a ''10 votes'', yeah
 
user315433
7:22 PM
But my conjecture is that it's >10 votes because this is how SE devs roll.
 
@anonymous2 With luck, you might get a badge out of it. Those aren't reverted.
 
But it's been some months since I last visited any other tab than ''newest questions''
And tags.
 
@S.L.Barth Like the Epic?
Mortarboard I already have.
 
user315433
@anonymous2 The tooltip shown on hover is correct "more than 10" votes, meaning 11 or more.
 
@zaq Okay, sure.
 
7:23 PM
@anonymous2 No, if the badge is earned, and then the votes corrected, it won't be removed
 
@anonymous2 AFAIK, the reversal script does not change the count of "days you hit the rep cap".
 
user315433
Hovering over various UI pieces is generally informative.
 
So yes, it might bring you one day closer.
 
Poor Jan over on Chem.SE is regularly the target of serial voting.
Socks upvote his posts not to get caught doing their malice
 
@S.L.Barth Ah, ok. In any case I don't expect to hit 200 today.
Unless I get hit again.
@M.A.R. Fabby on Ask Ubuntu got a cut of something like 10k earlier this year.
Ok, it was 8k.
 
7:26 PM
@M.A.R. Having a look. There's 4 users named Jan. You mean the one with > 20K?
 
@S.L.Barth Yah
 
@M.A.R. Why that user? Because they are highly visible?
 
Probably because he's so helpful that people want to give him a +50... Seriously, you have to wonder sometimes.
 
One wonders how often Jon Skeet gets serially upvoted / downvoted.
 
@S.L.Barth Doesn't make any difference to him.
He's usually got his max 200 by 10am.
 
7:30 PM
Yeah.... we should kcik him off the site after that and give the other users a chance :-D
 
He's only #10.
And trailing over 3k behind the top user this month.
Pretty certain he'll be the first user to reach 1 million.
 
sup peeps
 
@Frank Not much. We were discussing serial voting, after @anonymous2 got serially upvoted.
 
What is the threshhold
 
@S.L.Barth I dunno. Well, Jan has a lot of posts.
 
7:36 PM
@Frank Threshold for what?
 
@Frank A beautifully designed ceiling
@Frank No one knows except the devs, for a good reason
 
The threshold for rep? I remember an old MSO post when Jon Skeet was reaching 100K. People were joking that it would reset after that.
 
@M.A.R. I was pretty sure
 
@M.A.R. I'll bet you it's 1m and they're sweating like crazy trying to figure out what they're going to do when @JonSkeet hits it.
 
@anonymous2 No, the threshold of serial voting
 
7:41 PM
@anonymous2 That's still more than 200 rep everyday. It's not easy gaining that much rep consistently. No one can match up to him because being 10 in month for 10 months is better than being 1 for 1.
 
Jon is not gonna
 
@anonymous2 Create a final badge. It's Platinum and it's called "Game Over, You Won" :-)
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@Frank Okay, gotcha. Sorry, misunderstood.
 
@anonymous2 I'm offended
 
The SE team is probably more worried about Jon Skeet reaching 2147483647 - the maximum integer value in SQL Server.
 
7:44 PM
@Frank I'm sooo sorry.... :'(
 
@anonymous2 :'(
hahaha
 
366
Q: Jon Skeet Facts

Bill the LizardI'm looking for Chuck Norris Facts style answers. In case anyone is curious, this question was inspired by Jon's own comment to this question. EDIT: If you're into cryptography, you may enjoy these facts. Now with official sanction from the powers that be!

Absolutely hilarious.
 
It's so 2008
 
I think they locked it so that he wouldn't have any competition in the rep ranks.
Wait, that's on meta, isn't it.
 
And he's hardly the first on meta.
 
7:50 PM
@S.L.Barth Technically, that should take another 12 years.
 
There's actually one place on Earth where he's not the first
 
@M.A.R. Na, he's only got 75k.
@M.A.R. Put him under the hood of a car, you'll figure out he's not first... unless it's a Tesla.
 
@anonymous2 I know, that's why I said ''hardly''
 
You mean, barely? ;)
 
No, I meant ''hardly''
 
7:51 PM
#17.
 
haha
 
You see, if a Boolean statement is ''hardly true'', since it can only be true or false, it will be false.
 
@S.L.Barth I keep saying there should be a fourth class. Difference is I think it should be Ruby: Red would complement the Yellow silver and bronze IMHO.
Of course, it could be a blue sapphire, too.
 
Platinum badges have been proposed a few times.
 
They have. I'm not too surprised they haven't taken off.
 
7:54 PM
The drawback of rubies or sapphires is that it doesn't fit the "metal" theme of the other badges.
 
@S.L.Barth That is a drawback, but they wouldn't necessarily have to fit the theme in terms of what they are rewarding, either.
 
And why should we be rewarding more?
 
For instance, they could be site specific badges that are awarded for something that was particularly needed on a particular stack.
 
The consensus is that we're rewarding almost enough, and there is considerable abuse to artificially obtain the rewards.
 
Come to think of it, the real drawback of adding "gem" badges would be that it would not be immediately visible which badge was better.
 
7:56 PM
Like robo-reviewing
 
@M.A.R. Sure, but that could happen just to get yourself on the top reviewers, too.
 
Well, we can have all the hunting of superficial rewards when WinterBash 2016 starts.
 
@S.L.Barth That would really fit site specific like I suggested.
 
To be honest, @M.A.R. ... the Documentation queue on Stack Overflow has robo-reviewers without adding review badges.
@anonymous2 But are there sites that need specific badges?
....and if there are, doesn't that say more about the site than about the badge system?
 
@S.L.Barth Yeah, and there's that
 
7:58 PM
@S.L.Barth I don't say need, but it could be neat at some points.
 
But there is still a reward.
The feeling that the person will get when they think others watch their profile and say ''OMG, 450 docs reviews''
 
@anonymous2 Every badge serves a purpose. At least, that's the theory.
 
@S.L.Barth Granted. Albeit, there are definitely badges that don't serve as much purpose on one stack as another.
 
@M.A.R. That would almost be what I would think. "OMG, 450 docs reviews, this must be a robo-reviewer. TO THE BRAD SIGNAL!"
 
@S.L.Barth The fact is, human beings being what they are, they will seek rewards. There will always be abuses, yes, and the responsibility we have is to try to limit those abuses. But the fact remains that as long as there is no personal reward, people won't do whatever it may be.
 
8:01 PM
@S.L.Barth Well, that's only a very small portion of users and you know it
 
@M.A.R. Sadly yes.
@anonymous2 Yes. And hunting the badges isn't inherently bad. It only becomes bad when people hunt the badges without caring for the purpose.
 
When you talk about robo-reviewing, what does that mean? I'm not on SO hardly at all.
 
@anonymous2 Exactly, and there's a balance between how much we should reward and how much abuse there will be. We mostly agree that the existing system is closer to that balance than one with four tiers.
 
Editing so you can get Copy Editor? Fine. Making lots of pointless edits to get Copy Editor? Bad.
 
@M.A.R. Yes, I've gathered that. And since there are a lot bigger brains than mine on here, I'll concede. :)
@S.L.Barth I totally agree.
 
8:03 PM
Not really.
My brain consists of twelve carbon nuclei.
 
@anonymous2 Robo-reviewing is reviewing without thinking - hitting "Approve", or "Looks OK", or whatever the easiest button is during review. All the time, without regards for what one is reviewing.
 
@S.L.Barth Okay, gotcha. So not necessarily a real robot.
 
No, although the name derived from "bot". It was assumed people used bots to do the reviews.
 
Really, they could.
 
But they usually don't.
 
8:05 PM
And I'll bet you there are people who are.
 
Sure. Give enough developers a form and someone's going to write a script to automatically click it.
 
For a sec there I was thinking, "No, but what about the audits?" but I'm sure there's a way around it.
 
It's much more fun to keep clicking ''no action needed'' and watch your numbers go up than make a bot do it and not see your numbers go up.
 
@M.A.R. Lol.
 
@anonymous2 Audits were invented because of robo-reviewing.
 
8:06 PM
I know that. JOIN THE DARK SIDE
25 PERCENT OFF ONLY THIS FRIDAY
 
@S.L.Barth Do they only exist on the bigger stacks? I don't think I've run into a single one on mech.SE - but it's only just coming out of beta.
 
@anonymous2 Don't know. My "native" stack is Stack Overflow, and there we have a lot of things to review.
 
In any case, if they ran one on me, I would probably think, "Wait a minute, I thought we deleted that one a couple weeks ago."
 
Most other sites have less to review, so there's less opportunity to click "Approve" 20 times in a row.
 
@S.L.Barth Right. My native was Ask Ubuntu, but gradually I shifted to mechanics.SE.
@S.L.Barth But it seems to me the audits are pretty random. I'm pretty sure I've gotten them on the first post I reviewed in the day.
 
8:09 PM
@anonymous2 Yep, only on very large sites
 
They should be. I do think you get more of them if you consistently fail them, or get a few review suspensions.
 
Two things in the review queue! Got to go for a couple secs.
 
@anonymous2 Audits are randomly chosen from extreme cases such as spam posts and/or abusive, so they're obvious and easy to decide an action on.
Or from well-received posts, for that matter
 
@M.A.R. Sometimes, that is...
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Q: Why is a one line non-understandable answer used as review audit?

Karl RichterI would like to know Why the following answer good and used as review audit? What the answer is supposed to mean and in conjunction with the first question - how I am supposed to figure this out?

Oops.
That was what I meant.
 
@anonymous2 No, it should ideally always be too easy, but sometimes a bad question gets upvotes and answers and a seemingly legitimate question with rude content edited out is deleted as rude.
 
8:12 PM
@M.A.R. That's the theory, of course.
 
Mhm
 
In practice, we've got the occasional bad audit, when a horrible post gets massively upvoted or a really good post gets massively downvoted.
(Wait.... when did that second option actually happen...?)
 
@S.L.Barth Not to Skeet. ;)
 
:-)
Speaking of reviews.... here's one thing that made me really happy today:
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A: Review bans should escalate beyond 30 days

bluefeetStarting today, thanks to Oded, moderators now have a way to give extended bans from review. When manually banning a user from the mod tools, moderators will see a list of options similar to what is shown when suspending a user: Not only can you hand out longer bans, we've also adjusted th...

Finally implemented! Way to go Oded!!
 
I didn't know you could get kicked out of reviewing because you failed audits.
 
8:17 PM
If you fail too many of them.
 
How many do you have to fail?
 
Don't know. A single failure won't hurt you.
 
<sigh of relief>
 
But seriously: anybody who Approves this kind of thing, SHOULD be banned:
I'm willing to make room for mis-clicks and accidents, but we have people who consistently Approve these edit audits.
 
I seem to remember seeing something like that on my first Documentation review.
@S.L.Barth Wow. I didn't realise it was that big of a thing on SO.
I'm starting to understand the review audits now.
I have honestly failed review audits on AU, but at least I can honestly say that they were all in good faith: I read the post, I evaluated the post, I made a decision. But the system disagreed.
Probably the most typical one was this one:
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A: Why is a one line non-understandable answer used as review audit?

anonymous2The choice of review audits is automated; it's based totally on the votes and accepting of the answer. I learned that lesson the hard way with a similar review audit that I failed: Please notice: the top comment (12 upvotes) says this is not an answer. Update: Hilarious. I just got another...

Anhow, thank you all for your helpfulness. Hope to see you all again sometime. :)
 
8:27 PM
@anonymous2 You're welcome!
@anonymous2 That one-liner is a typical case of a post being upvoted wrongly.
Hello @AaronHall! How was your first week as a moderator?
 
Super, thanks for asking.
 
@S.L.Barth Yes, great, isn't it? I'm about to test it ...
 
@rene I don't see diamonds on your network profile. Am I missing something?
@AaronHall Glad to hear it! It must be a busy job.
 
@S.L.Barth I'm going to try to have the automatic review suspension beyond 30 days
 
@rene Approve a few spam edits. You can even suggest them yourself.
....want me to call Brad Larson for you? :-)
 
8:40 PM
I'm not sure if I want to be Larson'd
 
Or we could just ask @AaronHall to give you a 1-year review ban :-D
 
All of sudden a wealth of options is available
 
9:00 PM
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Blacklisted website in answer: Do Americans/Brits/Canadians need a guide and/or visa to travel Qeshm Island (Iran)? by Fred on travel.stackexchange.com
 
user315433
When Gmail puts a [real] email "Security alert for your linked Google account" into spam because it "has failed accounts.google.com's required tests for authentication.", what is a user supposed to think about it?
 
user315433
"Here's a security alert from us, but we're not sure it's actually from us. Rest assured, you're protected."
 
user315433
@StephenLeppik We haven't explicitly discussed a timeline for the end of beta just yet. November was a short month between holidays and the company meetup, as animuson mentioned, and December is gonna have a good chunk lost to holidays as well. I'd handwave-estimate two or three months in beta still, but really it's more of an "as long as it takes" type of thing. (Source: I'm on the Docs team.) — Adam Lear ♦ 10 mins ago
 
user315433
Is "the Docs team" = {Kevin, Adam} ?
 
Yeah, let's take the most controversial addition to SO and port it to our other sites....
 
9:13 PM
That is what we call progress; from 6 to 8 weeks to 2 to 3 months ...
 
user315433
On my first real vacation in years (occasional days off don't count). Actually turning off work push notifications. Adam Lear Unplugged. 😹
 
user315433
More like Adam Liar...
 
user315433
Profile says "On vacation till Nov 30 2016."
 
user315433
Also, "real vacation" = 7 days? and that including two days of federal holidays?
 
Some people don't work in academics. ;)
 
user315433
9:20 PM
The word is academia.
 
Yeah, I guess it would be some people aren't academics.
 
user315433
Indeed, the "Stack Benefits" listed at stackoverflow.com/company/work-here do not include any vacation, apart from maternity/paternity leaves.
 
user315433
On the contrary, there's a strong hint embedded in "We offer multiple ways for team members to interact with each other after-hours, whether you work in the office or remotely."
 
I would assume it's something like this:
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Q: How do unlimited vacation days work?

LongI've seen numerous posts on Stack Overflow Jobs or on-line in general where a company lists "Unlimited vacation days" as one of the company's benefits. I see several issues with this "benefit" and I'm not sure what I should expect when applying for one of these job posts. Are "unlimited" reall...

 
Anonymous
9:36 PM
If the information isn't public I guess I shouldn't share it, but I reassure you that we have real vacation days and are encouraged to use them.
 
Anonymous
The specifics can vary a little depending on where you're working, that may be why they're not listed there.
 
user315433
Job ads for U.S.-based positions say "20 days paid vacation" (though none of the current ads are for developers)
 
user315433
London-based positions don't promise anything concrete, presumably because their employment laws say enough.
 
user315433
9:54 PM
That's well known.
 
10:21 PM
Vacation is fairly plentiful here (unmentioned in the ads are the increases after 3 years and the "sabbatical" programs), but lots of folks don't use all of their vacation - it doesn't expire, and thus isn't mandatory.
I've got something like 4 weeks of vacation in reserve, and that's after vacationing rather heavily this past year.
Some folks have a lot more
I could also take a 4-week sabbatical just for the heck of it if need-be.
 
user315433
Sabbaticals are nice. I'm planning for one in Spring 18. Might affect the SE participation one way or the other.
 
user315433
The article says that Jin is managing the team of 13 designers, but Kurtis is the Director there...
 
user315433
Perhaps Jin is managing Kurtis while Kurtis is directing Jin.
 
You don't mess around with Jin
(but yeah - Jin is now People Manager while Kurtis is Product Manager)
 
user315433
I don't recognize the person between Jin and Geoff at the table...
 
user315433
10:34 PM
 
user315433
The website takes some broad meaning of "Built in Colorado", it seems.
 
user315433
Anyway, why Denver of all places? Don't remember any blog post about that.
 
user315433
Bethany Marzewski on August 23, 2012
We’re in New York, we’re in London, and as of August 5, we’re also in Denver! It’s true — Stack Exchange is growing up faster than we can keep up, but we’re excited to introduce our sales team at our brand-spankin’-new digs in Denver. (Seriously, it’s a pretty sweet office. Check out our before and after photos.) 
 
sales, sales, sales, sales, sales ... boring ...
 
Happy hour!
 
10:51 PM
Yeah!
DST put it just at the start of my Saturday
 
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