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Andrew T.

12:03 PM

!!/test shareit

SmokeDetector

> Would not be caught for title, body, and username.

kos

!!/notify 89 askubuntu.com-

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[ SmokeDetector ] Link at end of body, link following arrow in body, pattern-matching website in body: how to use N33 Nitric Oxide? by uoud shal on superuser.com …

rene

sd k

NathanOliver

!!/report math.stackexchange.com/a/1701615

dang I don't have privliges here. Would someone mind reporting that ^ if they agree. He had the same answer on SO and it was taken care of already.

SmokeDetector

12:16 PM

[ SmokeDetector ] Link at end of body: Know the Benefits of using Dan Smoke Online by Terry Hildegar on superuser.com …

kos

!!/report math.stackexchange.com/a/1701615

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[ SmokeDetector ] Manually reported answer: Is a ring a set? by Geor Valladares on math.stackexchange.com …

kos

@SmokeDetector k

NathanOliver

Thanks

rene

@NathanOliver how did you flag over on SO?

NathanOliver

12:20 PM

@rene rude/abusive as I felt it was a troll answer

rene

OK

Shadow Wizard

@Quill no, StackApps got same code base as all SE sites, e.g. now it's rev 2016.3.17.3355

Quill

@ShadowWizard Oh, okay

Shadow Wizard

MSE and stackexchange.com got their own

And SEDE is a totally different beast. ;)

Quill

so it's just A51, SEDE and elections that are individual now

Shadow Wizard

12:23 PM

Yup

Quill

someone should write an A51 api thing

fair enough @JasonC

thanks for the edit

kos

!!/notify 89 unix.stackexchange.com-

Shadow Wizard

@AndrewT I think it was public key.

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A: File format of an $2048$ bits RSA public key

You've mostly pieced it out. This is a DER encoding the the public key, and consists of a sequence of two integers (the first being the modulus, and the second being the exponent). Here is the breakdown of the encoding: 30 The value 30 is used to signify 'sequence'; this is a container that ...

Have fun decoding it!

Jason C

@Shog9 Were you hungry when you wrote that?

user202362

12:45 PM

I bet he wrote that because he knew that you were (hungry)

Andrew T.

@SmokeDetector why

SmokeDetector

@AndrewT. Body - Position 366-386: onlinetraininghub.co

Andrew T.

sd f

SmokeDetector

@AndrewT. [:4705690] That message is not a report.

Andrew T.

@SmokeDetector f

Jason C

12:52 PM

@Telkitty I am (hungry).

Andrew T.

I don't think so, I am hungry.

user202362

kos

1:07 PM

!!/notify 89 unix.stackexchange.com-

SmokeDetector

@kos That notification configuration is already registered.

rene

1:17 PM

@Telkitty Oh, surf and turf is a thing ...

tchrist

’Tis; just seldom for breakfast.

rene

I can imagine that ...

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword with email in answer: Magento Conversion Tracking by Magentodeveloper on superuser.com …

rene

sd k

sd f that is expected ...

Jason C

1:59 PM

@tchrist Your boy is back stackoverflow.com/q/36054286/616460

tchrist

Just a stupid travelling saleman problem.

rene

taken care of

Shadow Wizard

taken care of

rene

You didn't use magic there

SmokeDetector

2:26 PM

[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword in body, link at end of body, pattern-matching website in body: A significant software package technicians the simple truth by Ficip1965 on drupal.stackexchange.com …

Andrew T.

Kasra for mod (・ _・)/

kos

sd k

!!/notify 89 meta.stackexchange.com-

SmokeDetector

2:55 PM

[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, pattern-matching website in body: Physique of an male group Bella Gold Serum? by Tromis on mathoverflow.net …

kos

sd k

Shadow Wizard

@rene no magic in SO :/

Ferrybig

3:12 PM

@kos Look out with registering too many notifications, you don't want to end up coming back and seeing that you mist 100 messages, and somewhere between those messages there is a non-smokedetecotr message

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector ] English text in body on a localized site, English text in title on a localized site, bad keyword in title: Descendants Of The Sun Episode 8 English Sub by jammy on rus.stackexchange.com …

kos

3:29 PM

@Ferrybig Thanks, I partially considered that. Due to my schedule I know I will basically always be online during the critical waves on AU (usually from 5 AM UTC+1 onwards), so I know that won't be a problem. Though I don't know how this scales for U&L and Meta. I guess I could remove the notifications for U&L / Meta in case they become a problem.

rene

posts spam to create problem

SmokeDetector

3:41 PM

[ SmokeDetector ] Email in body: I want find possible partners and contributors for my original poker inspired project by Cristian Marin on poker.stackexchange.com …

rene

3:55 PM

unsure ^

but did raise a spam flag

@rene - if we do hire him back, he can fix his own damn bugs. — Oded ♦ 1 min ago

user315433

Seriously, canned replies in Inbox are going too far...

user315433

(I'm not Indian, and have no plans for being Indian. But the email received was from there.)

user315433

I kind of wanted to hit the third button, though.

rene

Not sure, maybe please go ahead is better.

user315433

4:54 PM

Well, this is a request for evaluation of a Ph.D. thesis... and the reason I'm asked is that the previous evaluator died before finishing his report... so I'm a little hesitant to accept.

user315433

I also don't know what those buttons actually do. Is the reply sent immediately with no opportunity to edit it? I don't want to try.

Shog9

doing the needful as early as possible is good advice, if you wish to avoid sepsis

Mike Edenfield

doing needful things can be dangerous. it leads to spontaneous outbreaks of max von sydow.

Andrew T.

5:10 PM

@404 it doesn't send automatically (which is very reasonable)

talking about AI and neural network...

> This blog post may or may not have actually been written by a neural network. - Google Research Blog

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[ SmokeDetector ] Manually reported answer: What are the differences between the two Samsung Galaxy Tab 4 7.0" models? by Niggynoggy9000 on android.stackexchange.com (@AndrewT.) …

rene

5:26 PM

offensive ^

user315433

What about this one?

user315433

-1

A: Is there a 'minimum daily spend' in Bhutan, and does it vary on citizenship?

chicken chicken chicken chicken chicken chicken chicken

user315433

The punchline is in the user name.

user315433

Here's a better one.

user315433

-2

A: Why does my phone keep on rebooting?

Your phone keeps rebooting due to it being controlled by a dark wizard from another dimension, whose use of Cooper Pairs and the pauli exclusion principle has led to him being able to destroy and toy with you (maniacal control). If it has rebooted once, then it means he is just a level 1 wizard ...

SmokeDetector

5:34 PM

[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword with email in answer, email in answer: How do I apply for a permit for the Zona de Reserva in Parque Natural Sierra de Grazalema? Can it be done online? by Alvaro Zabala on outdoors.stackexchange.com …

[ SmokeDetector ] Offensive answer detected: Where was director Tommy Wiseau born and/or raised? by Whizz Kid on movies.stackexchange.com …

rene

5:53 PM

^ That needs down votes I think, but isn't flag worhty

Mike Edenfield

6:23 PM

hrm.

-7

Q: How to Clean Up a Crime Scene

I just killed couple of kids in the basement. How do I remove/clean the blood spills? Basically, How do I clean up the crime scene?

home

^-- I think this one needs some attention.

user315433

Yeah, an attention-needy user.

rene

7:25 PM

Glancing over the suggested duplicates I was shocked to read How to clean dried blood and bone from the call girl but it is less dramatic...

sd k

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[ SmokeDetector ] Manually reported answer: Does a longer registration length/period for a domain name improve its SEO and search ranking? by Radwan on webmasters.stackexchange.com …

user315433

7:41 PM

user315433

Neat map by @drob, based on the 2016 survey.

user315433

Where is Python?

rene

Where it belongs? In an obscure place hidden for most us?

kos

sd k

Mike Edenfield

nobody actually uses Python; it's just something we talk about to confuse non-developers.

rene

7:52 PM

@404 what was the story on Mathoverflow.net?

I do recall it is an SE1.0 site but why was that?

Are they separate from the company?

Mike Edenfield

I thought it was upgraded to SE 2.0 a while ago?

rene

Not if I look at their site layout

somewhere I recall there is a story why this site is/looks different

@MikeEdenfield you might be right, they kept the retro look ;)

user315433

See the answers by Mad and myself. The design is old. At the time of migration, it seemed important to reproduce the familiar design as closely as possible. I don't think they like it very much now, but SE probably not going to make a new one soon.

Mike Edenfield

MO is the one that was an SE-hosted site but wasn't owned/operated by SO it just had a special arrangement with SO to keep their autonomy but be part of the network or something?

kos

@Ferrybig I think this morning you said that despite Smoke Detector not being in the room its message will be automatically deleted if the reported post is deleted within the 2 minutes mark, however that's not the case for the AU room (message above this one, now deleted by Seth)

rene

8:03 PM

@404 thx

9 hours ago, by hichris123

@rene I was going to ask you if the CVR wanted it. I'll do it later; adding another chat room involves figuring out how to say "report x in the Tavern is the same as report y in the SOCVR". But that's kinda important...

I think that also applies to the AU room

kos

@rene chat.stackexchange.com/transcript/message/28311748#28311748 and the message below. Thanks, so I gather it should be active already but it's not working.

rene

@kos hmm, ok maybe Ferry and @hichris123 need to look into that afterall...

user315433

8:21 PM

@kos No, it's only implemented for the Tavern (room 89). Source.

kos

@404 @rene Thanks, it has been only a missunderstanding then.

IͶΔ

8:37 PM

!!/amiprivileged

SmokeDetector

@IͶΔ Yes, you are a privileged user.

Mike Edenfield

!!/amiprivileged

SmokeDetector

@MikeEdenfield No, you are not a privileged user.

Mike Edenfield

!!/amipretty

!!/doesthismakemelookfat

hichris123

@kos Misunderstanding due to my laziness. ;) It'll be done shortly, I hope. cc @rene

IͶΔ

8:43 PM

@MikeEdenfield Yes, you are the prettiest greenish alien I've seen.

kos

@hichris123 Ok I see. :) Nice, looking forward to it.

Mike Edenfield

8:53 PM

@IͶΔ would have been funnier coming from the bot

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector ] All-caps answer, few unique characters in answer, repeating characters in answer: "every now and then" with present perfect by kekekekkeke on english.stackexchange.com …

Quill

Morning

user202362

9:19 PM

@MikeEdenfield yes, u r fat & pretty

Jan Dvorak

Oh, I remember this place from back when I was visiting it. You come here to chat and you end up picking up trash for free for a giant hotel chain.

4

hichris123

... hi Jan?

Jan Dvorak

Hello

Jeffrey Bosboom

Quill wrote a userscript to hide the bot and replies to it.

3

Q: Smoke the SmokeDetector

SmokeTheSmokeDetector Over in Tavern on the Meta, our spam detector, SmokeDetector has been the topic of an ongoing argument between those who believe SmokeDetector fills the chatroom, and those who believe his service is payment enough. While you can ignore users, you can't exactly ignore spec...

script chat

Jan Dvorak

Has anything changed since I left?

rene

9:25 PM

Nope

Mike Edenfield

hi there. i like your keyboard.

Jan Dvorak

Shog9 did manage to score a negatively rated meta answer in the meantime, though

Again, Smokey? :-)

Jeffrey Bosboom

hichris123 is teaching the bot to delete its messages when the offending post is deleted.

Jan Dvorak

So far it seems to be doing the converse :-D

rene

@JanDvorak I assume that is his first negative rated answer then?

Jan Dvorak

9:29 PM

Perhaps.

hichris123

yay.

That deletion was non-manual.

@JanDvorak I'm currently deleting & undeleting that post to test.

rene

You know there will be a moment that we ask the Duck to kick you @hichris123?

hichris123

Someday, someone's going to take a look at the revision history and have serious questions about my sanity...

rene

Oh, we are a testing ground once more

hichris123

@rene Yeah, probably. But I hope not. :P

Jan Dvorak

9:32 PM

@rene this one: meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/318885/…

rene

@hichris123 guess what! That day has come! What can we say about @hichris123's sanity? Back after the break ...

Mike Edenfield

Shog has quite a few negatively scored answers.

hichris123

@rene :P

rene

@JanDvorak ah the chmod 777 case. Was discussed here a bit as well between Shog9 and the OP.

Jan Dvorak

Any consensus?

Mike Edenfield

9:37 PM

yes. chmod 777 is a bad idea.

spamming 100s of identical comments in a short time is also a bad idea.

in short: the internet is a bad idea

rene

@JanDvorak I didn't follow the thread, didn't care to read exactly what happened but Shog9 wasn't thrilled about what happened there

Jan Dvorak

Neither was the community.

hichris123

Alright, now Smokey should auto-delete answer reports if the answer is deleted within the 2-minute window.

Next up: doing it in multiple rooms.

rene

I saw chmod 777 and thought I do that all the time on windows, where is the fuzz about

hichris123

Before that, we take a short break. Time for one of @rene's commercials.

Jan Dvorak

9:40 PM

I have uBlock. Hopefully it doesn't mute @rene for me.

rene

hichris123

Flowers make good commericals.

rene

Jeffrey Bosboom

!!/report chat.meta.stackexchange.com/transcript/message/4709362#4709362

SmokeDetector

@JeffreyBosboom Post 1: That does not look like a valid post URL.

rene

9:41 PM

And we're back! Over to @hichris123

hichris123

Now for your daily news update: the world is still here.

That's all folks.

rene

That is good news, right?

We need background and drama

and ~~personality~~ gossip

user202362

Some species of cows have horns while others don't, can we say the same about horses? So maybe unicorn is just a specie of horse with a corn?

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[ SmokeDetector ] Offensive answer detected: French equivalent of the English “internet meme”? by dfgl on french.stackexchange.com …

kos

sd k

hichris123

10:18 PM

@rene Well duh. There's no overlap between reports posted in here and the SOCVR (since the Tavern gets no SO reports). So I didn't even need to make any fancy comparison methods.

DeletionWatcher is now turned on for the CVR.

Jason C

@Telkitty Are unicorns related to horses though?

Quill

hey @hichris, what do you think about having smokey automatically move successful reports and the human responses (in the SOCVR room)

user202362

@JasonC what do you think?

user202362

Personally I think they are as much related as bacon & ham

hichris123

@Quill I thought about that a little but then you'd have to delete the move message (otherwise you'd have the same amount of clutter).

Quill

10:23 PM

I suppose so. and if it all gets cleaned up later on by the graveyard bot

Jason C

@Telkitty Well like, we can't say a zebra is a species of horse.

Quill

they're close

obviously not the same species, but maybe the level higher than that

Jason C

We could say a unicorn is an equine species, which diverged from horses before horses were cool.

Unless they evolved from horses. But I think unicorns have been around for a while. I'm pretty sure they ruled over every age of dinosaurs.

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector ] All of this user's posts are spam: user 6079674 on stackoverflow.com

Jan Dvorak

I prefer the Narwhal theory

hichris123

10:37 PM

4

A: Want execute only shell script

Is there a way to lock the script so that no one can read it and only execute it? It'd also be ideal for them to enter their sudo password to run the script Sure. Let's say the script containing the credentials is /usr/local/bin/myscript. Make this file owned by a privileged user. Let...

Am I completely missing the point of this answer or couldn't you just use sudo and read the file?

Quill

looks like it

except he wants it execute only, I suppose that makes the chown/chmod part valid

hichris123

I suppose but it's a false sense of security if you have sudo access. I mean, the requirements state that it would be ideal for them to have to use sudo...

user202362

11:06 PM

@JasonC what about donkey?

user202362

Jason C

11:52 PM

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