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Peter Ajtai

4:03 AM

hehe... on twitter, after reading a tweet, I moused to the left of it to vote it up :/

Michael Mrozek

7:22 AM

Ooo, bronze tag badges

Marc Gravell

> You've earned "sql-server" and 63 other badges

woohoo!

Michael Mrozek

I was happy with my 4 :). And [discussion] on meta

Marc Gravell

Jon's number goes crazy, of course...

Michael Mrozek

You seriously have 100 upvotes in 64 tags?

Sekhat

Good morning all

Marc Gravell

7:25 AM

Looks like it is still running:

> You've earned "ado.net" and 70 other badges.

Greg Hewgill

ooh whole pile of new badges :)

gah, how did I ever get the [php] bronze badge

Diago

Apparently I have bronze in [feature-request] :[

Michael Mrozek

@Diago Better than bronze in [status-declined]

Yi Jiang

Mmmhmmm... Jon Skeet's badge list just tripled in length

Diago

@MichaelMrozek Yeah. That would be Jeff's honor.

Marc Gravell

7:29 AM

Even scarier - how did I get bronze for C++?

Michael Mrozek

If my parsing is correct, there were 7742 new badges issued in the last few minutes

Marc Gravell

lol - I got bronze for

status-completed

Diago

@MarcGravell Nice :)

Michael Mrozek

Nice! That's one to be proud of

Diago

Well I have bronze and silver for discussion.

Marc Gravell

7:33 AM

The ♦ helps; but kudos to the folks here w/o ♦s.

Diago

And only now bronze for Windows and Windows-7 on SU.

Benjol

Party time, I got me a F# badge :)

Diago

@marc Maybe this is why you got the C++ badge

0

A: choosing version of Windows 7

Hi Kyy, I understand that you want to learn how to write a program, and would like to decide on which operating system to purchase in order to facilitate your learning. I cant speak for all the languages you have listed, but as far as C++ is concerned, you may write software in C++ with any ver...

I am certain that is you in disguise :P

Yi Jiang

Right on time...

1

Q: Jon Skeet was awarded the casting badge. Twice.

Is it supposed to be possible to get the new bronze tag badges multiple times? Or is that just because he's Jon Skeet? http://stackoverflow.com/badges/509/casting

Diago

Are there people that actually analyse the poor man's profile to such an extreme? (Although that was fairly easy to pick up)

Jarrod Dixon

7:38 AM

JON SKEET IS A GOD

Michael Mrozek

@Diago I was just thinking that; he got 157 new badges and apparently people scrolled through them all

Jarrod Dixon

not the God, but a god

Diago

@JarrodDixon And your one of the 12? :)

Jarrod Dixon

lol, one of the 12?

Diago

Hold on. What's up with all these devs online today?

Jarrod Dixon

7:39 AM

ring wraith?

Marc Gravell

one geek to rule them all!

Diago

@JarrodDixon disciples?

balpha

@MarcGravell ... and to bronze badges bind them?

Diago

But the LOTR references have a much better ring to it. I will admit

Marc Gravell

dirty dozen?

Diago

7:40 AM

I repeat

1 min ago, by Diago

Hold on. What's up with all these devs online today?

Sara Chipps

this is pretty cool

Diago

It feels like an invasion

OMG. It's @SaraChipps

Marc Gravell

Hey @Sara

Diago

She is still alive!

Sara Chipps

lookat that little floaty thing!

Jarrod Dixon

7:41 AM

A WOMAN!

OMG!

Marc Gravell

with a tache

I just made this on moustache.me - http://bit.ly/96i4vi

Tweeted by SaraJChipps on September 7, 2010 at 5:43 AM

Diago

@JarrodDixon Down boy. Down boy!

Marc Gravell

Sara Chipps

how awesome is this room?

Diago

@JarrodDixon Back to your corner now. We have civilized people here this morning.

@SaraChipps You have absolutely no idea!

balpha

7:42 AM

Marc Gravell

(wonders if I should put @Jarrod in no-speak timeout for a while...)

Michael Mrozek

@balpha Damn, I was trying to find that but failing at choosing good search terms

Diago

Ok. Jeff needs to update the StackExchange Blog!

balpha

@MichaelMrozek google.de/search?q=xkcd+female

Diago

@SaraChipps was here and said

1 min ago, by Sara Chipps

how awesome is this room?

And we scared her off.

Michael Mrozek

7:44 AM

@balpha That works much better than "xkcd laser fire"

Sara Chipps

still here

balpha

@MichaelMrozek lol

Jarrod Dixon

yeah, I had to show Ms. Chipps the sweetness that @MarcGravell and @balpha have created!

Diago

@JarrodDixon The whole StackOverflow LLC team only lives and breathes awesome!!!!

Jarrod Dixon

This is just about the greatest web chat I've ever experienced.

Diago

7:45 AM

Anything less from you guys would result in the internet coming to a halt.

For good. And forever. Just saying.

balpha

blushingly turns around

Diago

(sigh)

Sekhat

There is only one bad thing about this chat

Michael Mrozek

I was going to go to sleep like an hour ago, and then all this excitement happened. Now I'm tempted to just stay up until work starts

Diago

OK the real world is knocking at my door. In waves. Should I answer it's persistent, irritating call?

Jarrod Dixon

7:47 AM

I was grandfathered in by "the Atwood" - I don't really hold a candle to the talent we've hired lately

Diago

@MichaelMrozek I am at work already. Sadly.

Sekhat

It drains my phones battery like a vampire drains blood.

Marc Gravell

the real world is so rude; people should accept a "follow-up flag" instead of conversation, dammit!

Diago

@JarrodDixon Erm.... Have you used your own creation lately? Seriously? Your one of the few that can have a big head about what they achieved. (Jeff already had one so we can excuse him)

@MarcGravell Yeah, can I set

status-declined

On people?

Jarrod Dixon

i'm proud of what we've done, but i'm just a cog, haha

Michael Mrozek

7:49 AM

@Diago We generally IM each other even when we all sit in the same area; it gives people the option to ignore you if they're busy and respond when they have time

Marc Gravell

@JarrodDixon Better than "tool", I guess...

Diago

status-sarah-chipps-was-here

Jarrod Dixon

it's really the unbelievable people in the community that make our sites what they are

Michael Mrozek

status-go-team-tavern

Diago

@MichaelMrozek Yeah. Except my latest status update is:

Imagine a big office. Now imagine it has a door. Now imagine the door being shut in your face

I don't think that attracts a lot of conversation

Jarrod Dixon

7:50 AM

@MarcGravell well, i've never said i wasn't a tool :)

Diago

@JarrodDixon Actually I disagree, it's all the wrong influences that makes the community band together :)

Michael Mrozek

@Diago If they were smart they'd just join this room and ask you work questions here

Diago

@MichaelMrozek Now there is a bloody good idea.

I need to create a room for my Development team :)

Oh wait. They don't have access. I am special

All this awesome would be to much for there lowly brains to take

Marc Gravell

Diago

I don't think anyone here (I am refferring to the team I work with) has every created awesome. Ever. In their lives.

@MarcGravell @JarrodDixon @balpha Correction to my previous statement. It was in context of the previous sentence which Marc kinda cut off!

Michael Mrozek

7:54 AM

Ok, nobody talk about anything interesting while I'm asleep. Actually, one of the mods should probably just silence this room for the next 5 hours or so, to prevent temptation

balpha

@MichaelMrozek you better not go sleep -- pretty sure there's a monster hiding under your bed

MUAHAHAAA

Yi Jiang

@MichaelMrozek Hey, it's four in the afternoon here, why can't we talk

Diago

@MichaelMrozek I have a better idea. I'll silence you for 5 hours or so?

@balpha Is it named balpha by any chance?

Benjol

@YiJiang, 'cos we're supposed to be working, maybe? :)

Diago

Work. What's this work everyone keeps referring to? Is it an alien dissection device or something?

Yi Jiang

7:56 AM

@Benjol On a hot humid Tuesday afternoon? *NEVERR*

Marc Gravell

This room was placed in timeout for 5 hours; the topic of this room is "Here we have our fill of bread and wine, and then tell of tales of other times we've had our fill of bread and wine. Name the Tavern: meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/63536/naming-the-tavern"; - conversation should be limited to that topic.

as per @Diago's request ;p

Timeout cleared

Diago

Erm........

(ducks, rolls and runs)

Marc Gravell

Sorry - @Michael's request

Diago

@MarcGravell I think I just figured out where any at replys I get from you never works!

Yi Jiang

Awww.. why can't we have *bold italics?*

Marc Gravell

7:58 AM

'cos I can't spell?

Diago

/me bludgeons @MarcGravell into submission with a capital A

Marc Gravell

@YiJiang - we stole the markdown code from Jeff while he slept (which is, like, never)

Yi Jiang

Sigh...

Benjol

@Marc, @Yi doesn't work, remember? :)

Diago

Sadly I just realised for some reason Sarah's blog never migrated to Google Reader when I switched. Dammit.

Marc Gravell

7:59 AM

you'd think that of all people I'd remember that

@Diago sorry 'bout that. Personally I've given up correcting people who insist that I have made a typo, and that my name is Mark. Also makes me smile when people try @John (the Skeet)

Diago

@MarcGravell Considering all your work on this valuable free service. You're forgiven :)

This is just sad

> @waffles: I make every question and every answer which I post to meta.stackoverflow.com community wiki. – Kinopiko

Marc Gravell

→ 2 messages moved to Sandbox

→ 3 messages moved to Sandbox

Diago

And on that wonderfully glorious exciting note. I have to go and actually do some work. I have to try and beat SharePoint 2010 into submission with a custom master page.

Marc Gravell

didn't you know? this is actually sharepoint...

(coughs)

Yi Jiang

I nominate the code in this question for the "Worst Abuse of HTML of the Year Award"

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Q: Undue Br tag Is adding In Table Html

I have a user interface where I'm toggling between HTML markup view and rendered view. An HTML Editor. Using Javascript I have set that if anyone types any word and presses enter and then types another word then it should render as two lines. In HTML view this is an inserted <BR> tag as pe...

javascript html editor

wds

8:09 AM

@YiJiang what, to insert some newlines?

Yi Jiang

@wds Not the question, the code that's presented in the question

Go read it

Benjol

Check out the edits, if the question ever gets any upvotes, it's @annakata who deserves them!

wds

@YiJiang looks like pretty standard html 3 to me

Let's just say I've seen worse

You haven't seen horror until you've seen code that will only render in IE6

Yi Jiang

(exclaim) My God it's Full of Deprecated HTML elements!

wds

yeah, some people are stuck in the 90s, big deal

at least he closed all the tags he opened

balpha

8:16 AM

►

Benjol

9:40 AM

One wonders exactly what they think the dove in their name represents:

bbc.co.uk/news/world-south-asia-11209738

Lasse V. Karlsen

10:40 AM

Moving target perhaps?

badp

OpenGL implementation of DirectDraw

Lasse V. Karlsen

Why are people adding "-By XYZ" into the answers to the question about naming the tavern?

For instance, I added this:

8

A: Naming the Tavern

The Prancing Unicorn -By Joe

badp

I'd use comments for that (with a transcript link if applicable...)

Lasse V. Karlsen

And Joe Philips added "-By Joe"

And Chacha102 added "The Unhandled Exception", and Fosco added "-By Fosco"

meta.stackoverflow.com/posts/63538/revisions

Is that some unnamed convention to add support for something, or is it just an attempt to say "I added this" and hope nobody checks the revision history?

Marc Gravell

Bizarre!

Rolled back; if anyone comes back and justifies it, then sure... (maybe it was part of a separate discussion, who knows)

Benjol

10:58 AM

@Marc, @Lasse

I can't find the reference now, but Chacha posted in other people's ideas from the chat feed and asked them to 'claim' them

Lasse V. Karlsen

Why?

That is, ok, claim his answer

But why mine?

Marc Gravell

maybe Joe didn't "get it"

Lasse V. Karlsen

Perhaps

Benjol

Can't say that any of those really catch my fancy yet

Lasse V. Karlsen

No, me neither

And I'm not opposed to people editing my answers or questions, in fact, I welcome it, provided they do so to fix things, make it better

But "-By Joe" just seemed... wrong

Sekhat

11:06 AM

hey all :D

spoulson

In the morning to *

Lasse V. Karlsen

Bronze badges was implemented today I see

got 13 new badges on SO overnight

spoulson

Bronze badges for what?

Lasse V. Karlsen

activity in tags, 100 upvotes in various tags

see the Jon Skeet user page to find most of them :)

spoulson

Ahh, I got one

Benjol

11:17 AM

@Lasse, language-agnostic is a nice catch

spoulson

I bet Jon Skeet overflowed the badge counter

Benjol

@spoulson, waffles said something yesterday about having to add pagination just for him :)

Lasse V. Karlsen

Though I don't like to have the MySQL tag badge :P

I have no fond memories of MySQL

Benjol

@jonskeet - I think we will need paging for your badges http://i.imgur.com/HIeTb.png

Tweeted by samsaffron on September 6, 2010 at 7:10 AM

(there's a fun room here, if you have the time)

SO@Twitter

Public Status Announcements (and generic twitter chit chat) fr…

spoulson

Come on... it could have been worse. Did you get a PHP badge?

Lasse V. Karlsen

11:37 AM

Hm, let me see

Nope

spoulson

11:48 AM

Boo

Lasse V. Karlsen

12:01 PM

I bet you see the real images there

Not so for us others though

Sam152

Just request the images without the referral header. Ie. click on them then copy and paste the URL into a new tab.

Works a treat.

badp

</old>

Wow, only 330 people have the bronze python badge? ...and just 370 people have the .net bronze badge.

Benjol

12:21 PM

And only 17 have the F# bronze - though I suspect all the others are more from answers than questions :(

spoulson

@LasseVKarlsen You're not seeing the pirate guy?

Benjol

@spoulson, not without doing what Sam said

spoulson

Bummer. Wasn't worth the effort. sorry. :)

badp

stackoverflow.com/tags/python FAIL :/

reverts his tag wiki edit

Why is the tag excerpt markdown-free?

Lasse V. Karlsen

I saw it, just had to hit enter on the url

I like my C# badges :)

Fosco

12:37 PM

I just got the bronze php badge.. woo

badp

Oh, they're still being handed out.

wds

1:28 PM

it's always nice when somebody in <random_project_irc_channel> responds to your question, but not so nice when they're dicks about it

Diago

2:02 PM

People still use IRC?

badp

Yes

Diago

Because they want to? Or is someone holding a gun to their heads?

badp

Because they want to.

wds

it's definitely not as bad as it's made out to be

badp

Well, what's the alternative?

Diago

2:06 PM

MSN, Skype, SO?

@badp Lolz. I am just pulling your leg. I used to spend every day on IRC

Popular Demand

@wds Smells like Stack Overflow.

badp

oh god, VLC. YOU BUILT YOUR FONT CACHE TWO DAYS AGO

Popular Demand

@badp Clearly it gets depleted every time you use up precious, precious letters.

Diago

@PopularDemand Honey. Your home. I missed you :) (ducks, rolls and runs)

Popular Demand

Stop throwing so much digital ink around.

@Diago Yeah, you better run!

grumble mumble coffee

Mph, why does coffee have to come out of the machine so dang hot?

Fosco

2:23 PM

@LasseVKarlsen edit first, ask questions later?..

Popular Demand

@Fosco interrogation point

Naming contest?

Fosco

yeah.. silliness.

ChaCha posted our answers, asked us to tag them.. then all the tags get removed with spurious comments accusing us of taking someone elses answer.

badp

o.O

Popular Demand

@Fosco I think you misinterpreted "I don't understand why this is here" for "you're a thief."

Fosco

> What's with the "-By Joe" that you added Joe? I see you and Fosco add this to other people's answers, why is that?

@PopularDemand the implication is there, especially if the edit is made before the answer.. and the comments are upvoted for some reason.

Popular Demand

2:29 PM

@Fosco Remember that many of the people who are stumbling into that question have never heard of The Tavern.

Also note that Lasse wasn't the one who did the editing, at least in that one case.

Again, I think you're seeing assassins in the shadows where there are none.

Fosco

@PopularDemand quite possibly... im a shadow boxer, baby

Popular Demand

Should I know who Sara Chipps is? I just Googled her, didn't get a Wikipedia entry.

Fosco

@PopularDemand is it routine to rollback revisions to answers which you have no connection to? i.e. it's chachas question, chachas answer.. why would anyone else roll back an edit?

Popular Demand

@Fosco I would call that rare at best; certainly not routine.

But then, I roll back much less than other people, I think.

Fosco

hence my annoyance.

Chacha102

2:34 PM

Hello

Fosco

Hi :)

Michael Mrozek

Personally I think it's kind of rude to rollback "pending a good reason for why it was added", instead of asking first

Chacha102

Like I commented:

> @Fosco I don't think anyone saw my comment because for a while it was hidden under the Show More Comments button. – Chacha102 1 min ago

Anyway, I'm off to school

Fosco

It's ok, I happened to go check out the question so I was able to clean it up..

but, really silly that it even happened.. have a good day at school.

Popular Demand

Ah, school. Pleasantly, the first day of school in this city does not coincide with a significant increase in traffic... but maybe I just left after the rush.

Michael Mrozek

2:38 PM

Oh, I see now. It looks like he suggested a name without having actually been in the chat, and it turned out that name had been previous suggested: meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/63536/naming-the-tavern/…

I would be kind of annoyed if I posted an answer and somebody edited in " -- by Other User" at the end

Fosco

@MichaelMrozek yeah.. just noticing his meta question that explains it.. i only edited answers from ChaCha which were posted from Chat.

Popular Demand

2:51 PM

Any interesting Labor Day adventures, my fellow Americans?

Michael Mrozek

I hung out in here and laughed at the people who were working

Yeesh. How anemic.

Morning everyone

Hey.

@PopularDemand Went to a big fair about 45 minutes away... had a family get-together.. spent all my time with my girlfriend... you?

@Josh good morning!

Josh

3:00 PM

What a weekend. Was looking forward to some downtime and XMPP coding and instead it was filled with errands and equipment failures, yuck!

How are you guys doing, @Fosco and @PopularDemand?

Popular Demand

I was here. Working. Getting laughed at by Michael. Though I only saw him post one or two messages. He was probably only checking in briefly whilst doing most of his laughing in that "real life outdoors vacation" place I keep hearing about.

Fosco

@Josh can't complain... all is well, but I haven't had any downtime in months..

Josh

@Fosco Likewise! I was hoping for some this weekend but was denied

@PopularDemand I've been wanting one of those!

Been trying to get a break in work so I can head up to the Blue Ridge Mountains

Popular Demand

@Fosco Downtime is for losers.

Fosco

hehe..

I do have one thing on my mind, though... for the first time, I'm considering creating an open-source project.

Josh

3:06 PM

@Fosco Sweet, what'll it be?

@PopularDemand I'm reading through the answers to the tavern post, I love: The 0xDEADBEEF 0xCAFE

so great

Popular Demand

@Josh I must humbly and respectfully disagree.

Maybe I've just seen that joke too many times.

Josh

I respect your disagreement @Fosco :-)

I guess I'm just a sucker for hex :-)

Popular Demand

@Josh As much as I would love for someone else to get hit with the blame, that was me, not Fosco.

Fosco

@Josh A working example/framework of custom Google Maps v3 with configurable layer groups (and sub groups) that can be turned on and off with checkboxes.. with custom info-windows to control the content.

Josh

@Fosco ooooh! That sounds awesome :-)

Fosco

3:10 PM

I've seen so many examples of each piece, but rarely is it put together.

Josh

agreed

Popular Demand

@Fosco Fancy. Is there an intended use case? Or is this a "just because it would be cool to make"?

Fosco

I have a very small side job for which I am creating it..

Josh

@PopularDemand Intended use case is an open source project ;-)

Chacha102

I'm back..

Josh

3:11 PM

Welcome @Chacha102!

OK I'm headed to see why our office server won't boot. bbs (bprobably very soon, with questions :-)

Fosco

Right now I have it all functioning.. the layers are in a database, the locations are in the database, and everything pops up dynamically.

Chacha102

@Josh Who are you?

Josh

@Chacha102 I'm Josh :-)

Chacha102

Really?

Josh

I come in here and harass @Fosco and @PopularDemand. The pay's not great but the work's enjoyable!

Chacha102

3:12 PM

Ah

@PopularDemand is weird...

Josh

sssh, he'll hear you! :-)

Fosco

@PopularDemand As I've been working on it, I realize how useful it would be for others to get all of that functionality out of the box.

Popular Demand

@Josh I'm pretty sure I was supposed hear that.

Josh

@PopularDemand Is that what the @ sign in front of your name meant? ;-)

wds

@PopularDemand I could've sworn there was a sara chips on twitter

Someone jeff retweets sometimes or something

aah, double p

twitter.com/SaraJChipps

Popular Demand

3:22 PM

@wds, yeah, the first result was a blog. But I wasn't about to hit up a blog at work, at least not one that I've never been to before.

(Am currently reading an old Joel on Software article at my boss's request, so I couldn't say "no blogs" categorically.)

wds

yeah girldeveloper.com

it's pretty pink

Popular Demand

It's in her MSO profile, too.

I'll check it out when I get home, probably.

wds

(I'm not saying pink is a bad thing, but some bosses might get the wrong idea)

Popular Demand

I've been looking for good blogs but haven't really started reading any yet; I always let the "preparation stage" of things run on too long.

Fosco

I'd link to the maps demo, but I don't want it getting out..

wds

3:25 PM

I sometimes spend 3 days sitting around, trying to avoid doing something

Fosco

@PopularDemand you should check out: youarenotsosmart.com there's a lot of great articles on there. I read them all a couple weeks ago.

wds

then code it up in an afternoon

I am convinced that I do most of the work in those 3 days tho

Fosco

@wds right on.. that's how I do everything.

Popular Demand

@Fosco All I read there was "Fosco: @PopularDemand you are not so smart"

wds

@PopularDemand the point of the site is that nobody is

Speaking of which... they're rereleasing avatar, now with even more suck

Fosco

3:27 PM

@PopularDemand lol.. don't take offense.. you'll understand after you check it out.

ok I'm going home to lunch with my girlfriend.. be back in an hour or so.

Popular Demand

@Fosco I wasn't complaining, I thought it was funny.

Enjoy lunch.

badp

@wds 3 days? I've been avoiding doing anything for a month now

Amateur!

Josh

3:44 PM

I think I might have fixed my local office's server... still checking. Looks like it was just a coincidence that it failed to boot

I was really starting to feel like the new UPSes I bough this weekend were frying my devices!

Diago

OK Who misplaced my drink?

Josh

@Diago Sorry, I drank it, I needed a drink! :-)

@Diago Next round's on me :-)

Diago

grumble Dammit. Rushing all the way here for nothing. I though at least @PopularDemand would look out for a friend. G

@Josh Will have to be the next 2. The whole of last week was on me :P

Popular Demand

@Diago, don't worry, I swapped it out with water before he swiped it. Here you go.

Josh

Hey it's been a tough few days! Here, have another passes a Red Bull Vodka Tequila @Diago's way

Diago

3:48 PM

@PopularDemand Thanks :) I knew I could count on you.

@Josh Don't joke, I still have 2 of those in the fridge I have to finish. And I hate Tequila

Josh

@Diago LOL. Sorry I thought last time you said that was your drink of choice :-)

Popular Demand

@Diago, I did mean to ping you about that Super-Secret Not-For-Public-Disclosure Mystery Action Item Of Awesomeness we talked about yesterday, but I have no contact info for you.

(So, it's not my fault if you end up having to hound me about it later.)

Diago

@PopularDemand My user profile, unlike yours, actually has a working email addy, that I check. On my phone. All the time. Just saying. :)

@Josh RedBull and Vodka is my drink of choice.

The stupid idiot that went to go buy the stuff, decided to buy the one with Tequila in it.

Popular Demand

@Diago I still don't see a field for that. I have been UI-blind before, though.

Josh

@Diago Ah so I just mistakenly added an extra ingredient :-)

Popular Demand

3:56 PM

Is it perhaps a field that's only visible to mods?