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12:08 AM
OK dinner time for me. Catch you guys later!
 
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8:06 AM
Meta is failing quite a bit right now
9:05 AM
Woah. I came here for an early morning constitutional pint and the place is empty! IT'S 12 O'CLOCK SOMEWHERE IN THE WORLD, PEOPLE. :-)
baffled Is there a particular reason Stack Exchange needs an IRC style chatroom to go along with it?
I mean, it's a cool display of "Look what we can do, but... why?"
@DanielBingham this post might help: blog.stackoverflow.com/2010/04/…
It only seems to hot up in here when the US patrons are online
huh.. curious... I guess I buy it
still seems kinda superfluous to me, but I like the interface
 
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11:52 AM
@Daniel it was widely, loudly, and repeatedly requested.
12:40 PM
I can't believe I just seriously recommended use of ROT13 in an answer on SO.
1:20 PM
@Fosco I can believe. I have no faith in you Fosco
Hah, ROT13 is awesome.
I think Pig Latin is a little more secure.
1:49 PM
@devinb it was upvoted :)
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A: Simple Javascript encrypt, PHP decrypt with shared secret key

FoscoIf it's not about security, and not about making it hard to break, then how about ROT-13? //+ Jonas Raoni Soares Silva //@ http://jsfromhell.com/string/rot13 [rev. #1] String.prototype.rot13 = function(){ return this.replace(/[a-zA-Z]/g, function(c){ return String.fromCharCode((c &l...

@PiersMyers Only we Americans are silly enough to log in. But more immediately, it seems like everyone's in Open House (the load test room).
@devinb @Fosco since you two missed it yesterday:
15 hours ago, by Popular Demand
Time for a contest. It's a well-known fact that all the best taverns follow a specific naming convention. "The Brass Lantern," "The Prancing Pony," "The Drunken Clam," "The Mended Drum,"... they're all "The [Descriptor] [Noun]." Unfortunately, the tavern we're in isn't so blessed. I hereby challenge you to name it!
The Sticky Wicket.
The Effing Hex (Bar and Grille)
The Sailing Programmer
The Logo Turtle
The Rusted Port
The Polished Knob (thanks to my girlfriend for this mornings inspiration)
@devinb, why? Reference to the Java framework?
2:02 PM
The Unicornified Waffle
@Fosco, don't make me turn the hose on you.
The Moving Turtle (nice @devinb logo ref!)
The Tasty Waffle
The GOTO 10
The Unary Operator
The GOTO Beer
@Fosco Was that one inspired by your girlfriend dumping you?
I kid, I kid.
2:04 PM
nope, she's hooked!
The Rosy Palm
The Dancing Nipple
ok I better take a break from this before I get in trouble.
@Fosco Yes.
@Fosco amen
The 5-Minute Break
I like "The Tavern" actually.
is SO being hacked today or something? i just got 2 spam responses to one of my questions stackoverflow.com/questions/1242637/…
→ 15 messages moved to Chat feedback
@qntmfred We all end up in the tail of the bell curve sometimes.
Er, @balpha, you moved one too many.
2:14 PM
← 1 message moved from Chat feedback
Thanks. And, interesting, my reply doesn't automatically reassociate now that it's back.
@balpha WHICH ONE?!?!?!?!?1 The suspense is KILLING me.
@Popular can you still edit it? It should be within the window.
Although I suspect this is a very edge case.
Nice gravatar @qntmfred!
@PopularDemand meh... edge case :)
@devinb Just missed the window. I blame you and Josh talking and moving the edit button.
@balpha No complaints... noble leader.
2:16 PM
FTFY
@PopularDemand I'll take the blame for that :-)
@balpha What's FTFY?
@Josh I'll let Josh take the blame
"Fixed that for you"
Oh.
Figured it out from context.
Gah.
I looked it up.
2:17 PM
Thanks.
To you both.
@qntmfred maybe they're two bored kids in a computer lab in some school? I wouldn't worry about it unless it happens again.
@PopularDemand shouldn't there be an age restriction for this place?
@PiersMyers It's a tavern so probably 21 (at least in the US)... j/k ;-)
well, the owner of this tavern will graduate from high school in 2011
you do the math
LOL
You can bartend at 18 in the US. Not sure where Chacha is.
2:23 PM
@balpha I am easily fooled by his fake ID =b
> San Diego, California
according to his profile
Wait a minute, have we been getting non-alcoholic drinks this whole time?
@PopularDemand Ah HA! I knew there was something wrong here!
lol
Did we ever decided on a name for this place @PopularDemand?
@PopularDemand The best part about these taverns is that we can each get drinks tailored to our jurisdiction.
@Josh Scroll up a bit for contributions by @devinb. And @Fosco.
2:27 PM
@PopularDemand thanks :-)
how did user150689 get on here with a rep of only 1?
But I can't really let this contest end until at least it's been Shoggified.
@PiersMyers balpha test account?
@jjnguy would probably also have some ideas.
@devinb Haven't seen him in a while.
@PiersMyers I believe you can view, but not message.
2:28 PM
I should have asked this last Wednesday when it was busy here.
Bah. Shog has nothing valuable to say.
Ever.
Aw, -1 to me... that's what I get for theorizing.
In fact, in the entire history of all his responses.
Wha... oh Hey @Shog9! when did You get here?
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Q: How to make users aware that they're reading translated content?

Piskvor Same issue, same user, different SO question: http://meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/62933/the-patricia-translation-problem The language policy of the SEx network is basically "We use English". However, this assumption is sometimes subverted by automatic translation systems: Today, a user ...

@Fosco "The Unary Operator" -- classic :-)
2:29 PM
@PiersMyers no one said that's forbidden
these rooms are public
even without an account
you need 20 rep to talk
@balpha ah, I see, better watch what I say then ...
... not a fan of the latest revision.
@devinb when I changed my name back from user150689... ;-p
haha
16 hours ago, by Popular Demand
Time for a contest. It's a well-known fact that all the best taverns follow a specific naming convention. "The Brass Lantern," "The Prancing Pony," "The Drunken Clam," "The Mended Drum,"... they're all "The [Descriptor] [Noun]." Unfortunately, the tavern we're in isn't so blessed. I hereby challenge you to name it!
(@Shog9 et al.)
2:35 PM
The Empty Tavern
lol
The Waffle House
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Atwood and Spolsky's Homestyle Eatery
Hm, the world didn't end after I un-FAQed that terrible question. I guess it is okay.
@mod could the Patricia twins be merged, perhaps?
@Popular you can just UNFAQ things?
2:44 PM
@devinb It was a rollback. Actually, the patented ShogSystem revision comment leaver.
@Shog9 ROFLMAO I LOVE IT DO WAAAANNNNTTTT!!!!
@devinb
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Q: Can I join Stack Overflow's testing team?

joeHow can I participate in the Stack Overflow testing team?

I actualy flagged that one for mod review, because it completely is NOT FAQ worth.
The Dusty Keyboard
@JoePhillips I like that one!
Combine one of devins with one of Joes and get: The Sticky Keyboard
2:49 PM
@Fosco You're cut off.
@devinb lol
@devinb It's not the only one. But at least it's fixed now.
The Custom 404
Please end the contest before I make a complete fool of myself :) too late
3:08 PM
(I laugh every time I drive past that)
SO/MSO meta/parent links have been implemented.
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Q: How much can I expect to pay for car insurance?

d03boyI'm 25 and I've been rear-ended once when I was 16 or 17. I've never been in any other accidents or had any speeding tickets. I am currently on my mothers insurance and driving her car. I will be getting my own car and paying for my own insurance within the next 2 months. How can I determine how ...

that sounds kind of bad now that I read it again
3:23 PM
@JoePhillips Assuming it's on the right site, what's wrong with it?
"I've been rear-ended once" is all... not that bad
@JoePhillips You're reading it with your mind in the gutter.
Always
I wrote it btw
Why are people so ridiculous?
3:39 PM
Because they're people.
Hey, @GeorgeMarian:
17 hours ago, by Popular Demand
Time for a contest. It's a well-known fact that all the best taverns follow a specific naming convention. "The Brass Lantern," "The Prancing Pony," "The Drunken Clam," "The Mended Drum,"... they're all "The [Descriptor] [Noun]." Unfortunately, the tavern we're in isn't so blessed. I hereby challenge you to name it!
Ah, good idea.
The Recursive Function
The Howling Dog
@Fosco I'm pretty sure they could just use jQuery
3:45 PM
The Implicit Conversion
@devinb how about The Sloppy Second ?
lol
The Unhandled Exception
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The Chatty Charlie?
Hey @Diago, care to jump in?
I'm Jumping, I'm Jumping.... Where am I jumping?
The Slutty Class (everything is public)
The Stupidity Corner? :)
3:53 PM
@Diago, sorry, here:
17 hours ago, by Popular Demand
Time for a contest. It's a well-known fact that all the best taverns follow a specific naming convention. "The Brass Lantern," "The Prancing Pony," "The Drunken Clam," "The Mended Drum,"... they're all "The [Descriptor] [Noun]." Unfortunately, the tavern we're in isn't so blessed. I hereby challenge you to name it!
The Quantum Entanglement
@PopularDemand Thanks :)
The Beer Void
I could do this all day.
@Fosco I see your unhandled exception and raise you a NotImplemented Exception
4:00 PM
The Unfunny Moderator
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@Diago :)
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Q: NotImplementedException - are they kidding me?

Daniel PaullThis really, really urks me, so I hope that someone can give me a reasonable justification for why things are as they are. NotImplementedException. You are pulling my leg, right? No, I'm not going to take the cheap stab at this by saying, "hang on, the method is implemented - it throws a NotIm...

I have run out of flags for this Michael guy. I need a mod to stop him from being rude.
@Frosty Link?
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Q: Please update rep on page refresh in the chat system.

FrostyAccording to this answer: http://meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/62958/i-have-20-rep-but-i-cannot-talk-on-the-chat-system/62959#62959 Our rep does not update on a page refresh when logged into the chat system. I think it should. Can we make this happen?

And he was off topic here too: meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/62947/…
Oh, that Michael. @Frosty Welcome to Meta. It's a harsh wasteland of sarcasm, wit and intense feelings. If you can't stand the heat, get out of the fire.....
4:03 PM
@Diago I call with The Introspection Exception ("hmm, do I want to be implemented?"). What've you got?
@Frosty, what Diago means to say is
That seems silly Diago. Why not just delete this user's posts when he is rude?
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Q: How does Meta Stack Overflow work?

Popular DemandMeta Stack Overflow seems to have different rules and user behavior than the "regular" Stack Exchange sites. How is it different? Individual questions answered below: What do votes mean on Meta? Why was my well-written post downvoted? When should posts on Meta be set to community wiki? Why ...

@PopularDemand I would raise you a NotInfiniteNumber exception but somehow it doesn't fit
@PopularDemand man, that's a good question... If there's one thing above all that bugs me about .NET, it's the use of exceptions as flow control.
The Divisible Zero
4:05 PM
@Frosty The same reason I don't delete yours? The moderators don't even get involved in Meta unless we have to.
@Diago ...anymore...
@Frosty I don't see that thread as being rude... argumentative, sure.. but maybe you were actually wrong and took it personal?
@Shog9 Yeah; I initially posted it for having a funny and mildly relevant title, but it is.
Diago, why would you delete mine? I am contributing feedback like jeff asked for.
Fosco, calling me a liar is pretty rude.
Never gonna give you up. Never gonna let you down
4:07 PM
Fosco, right or wrong, michael is not on topic.
@Frosty I did nothing of the sort...
@Frosty Mods have great powers. Great and terrible powers. Great and terrible and ill-defined powers. But they do not possess the ability to make other users polite. This is the domain of God and those who would play him - dangerous ground, fraught with pitfalls and unexpected flames
@Frosty The word liar was not in my post. Are you female?
Shog: But others have been punished for being rude. Why not this person?
Fosco: Are you now insulting females and saying they cannot read?
Wait, @Frosty, before this devolves... which specific comment do you feel was offensive?
4:09 PM
@Frosty indeed, others have been punished, but not consistently and more to the point, not effectively.
Fosco: And for the record, Michael called me a liar. That is who we were talking about.
Popular: Just about all of Michael's comments there. They were all unwarranted and off topic attacks.
><((((º>
jjnguy was very helpful, Michael was rude and combatitive.
@Frosty A search of that page for "liar" also failed to find any results.
Shog: Example?
Fosco: You are purposely being troublesome like Michael then.
4:10 PM
@Frosty it helps if you put a @ before our names; that makes them light up, and the conversation easier to follow.
@Frosty Well, I'm done arguing with you. If you want to say blatantly false things in comments, I won't be the one to stop you anymore – Michael Mrozek
That is calling me a liar. Pretty clearly.
@Popular: Thank you.
No, he's implying that you lied
@Frosty To re-iterate, I am not convinced that he is wrong.
(subtle difference, but important)
@Frosty example of what?
Ok.... What were we talking about before this conversation started going south?
4:13 PM
@Diago, Frosty believes that MichaelMrozek was offensive in the comments to meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/62970/…
turtle sandwiches
@Frosty I recommend that you get a thicker skin and pick your battles. It's not important, none of those discussions are, and the possibility exists that you were wrong or misunderstood something.
@Frosty Even if you were right, you're not entitled to anything.
@Fosco: I don't think you understand the topic at all. I made a feature request that balpha even agreed with right before I posted it. I was attacked by a user repeatedly for off topic subjects.
@Fosco: And now you are arguing for the sake of arguing apparently since you cannot even refute anything I said in my suggestion.
@PopularDemand I have another entry for your contest.. The Crying Snowman
This whole conversation reminds me of he who shall not be named
Can this become the topic that shall not be named?
4:16 PM
@Fosco: If you feel I am incorrect about something, just say it, so we can get to the bottom of it. Don't keep suggesting I might be wrong.
@Diago evan evan evan evan evan evan evan evan evan evan evan evan evan evan evan evan evan evan evan evan evan evan evan evan evan evan evan evan evan evan evan evan evan evan evan evan evan evan evan evan evan evan evan evan evan evan evan evan evan evan evan evan evan evan evan evan evan evan
@Shog9 Aw man.... Can you guys please tell me when the memes change?
Hi guys
@Diago There are no memes on MetaChat. Just chaos. And banishment.
This is the comment where Michael called him a liar, I flagged it also.
@Frosty Well, I'm done arguing with you. If you want to say blatantly false things in comments, I won't be the one to stop you anymore – Michael Mrozek 13 mins ago
4:18 PM
@diago you're right
It's him
@balpha Say what?
What did I miss?
@Lance: Thank you. I am glad someone else understands.
We had a group hug. You missed that
@Frosty While I didn't like that comment, I do think that you're blowing things out of proportion, some stuff just needs to be ignored.
4:21 PM
Ohhhh. Internet drama. :3
@Lance: But you flagged it as well...
@Frosty Yes, that comment, but I don't think the argument really needed to happen.
what kind of a thin-skinned dramma-queen flags mildly-insulting comments?
@Shog: Lance does.
I've never understood that. Is it cathartic?
4:22 PM
@Shog9 The worst thing about the Internet is that people casually insult others and think it is acceptable. It's never acceptable to me.
Ok. This is getting boring now and since my battery is about to die, and since we have no electricity..... I am going to have some fun
Can I have some fyn too?
FYN? I LUUUURV FYN!
G'day @Diago.
4:23 PM
Lance are you really bothered by insults online?
@SergioTapia I'm bothered by people insulting others on or offline. There is no reason to treat people that way.
I don't insult people online either, but to be bothered by it is really REALLY dumb.
@LanceRoberts no, the worst thing about The Internet is LOLCats. Seriously, those things are creepy. Almost as creepy as bonsai kittens.
@SergioTapia Self-contradictory much?
@SergioTapia Are you calling Frosty dumb?
4:25 PM
just FYI, Frosty has been suspended
And he's off
I miss him already
@SergioTapia How people are treated concerns me, call it a 'sense of justice'.
Hm, more people. One more plug:
18 hours ago, by Popular Demand
Time for a contest. It's a well-known fact that all the best taverns follow a specific naming convention. "The Brass Lantern," "The Prancing Pony," "The Drunken Clam," "The Mended Drum,"... they're all "The [Descriptor] [Noun]." Unfortunately, the tavern we're in isn't so blessed. I hereby challenge you to name it!
The Tattered Flag
4:26 PM
The Subjective Insult
@PopularDemand Thank you, I was busy raising you a NotInfiniteNumber exception if I recall
And on that note. I am out to go get food
See ay
Bye Diago
FOOOD!! AAAAYYY!
@Diago I thought I called you. But okay. I'll see that with a ArithmeticException.
(Divide by zero.)
The Infinite Six-To-Eight-Weeks
The Jon Skeet
The Annoying Contest
4:30 PM
The 628th Week?
The Baked Potato
The Necessary Evil
@Fosco: Yeah if he gets bothered by some random online guys, I think he's dumb.
The Suspended Troll
The Scrolling Wall
4:36 PM
@PopularDemand When does this contest end, and is there any official support or are we just yanking our chains? :)
I'm glad you suspended him btw
I'm sick of trying to be nice to trolls....
@Fosco Official enough, we just have to brow-beat Chacha into changing the name. :)
That was a pretty quick judgment that he was a troll.
4:38 PM
Yeah
@PopularDemand I feel he came on kind of strong
@GeorgeMarian I was going to search the archives, but this is basically the answer.
@PopularDemand I could pretty quickly see why someone would respond to him in a way that he would think is rude.
@PopularDemand There were multiple pieces of evidence.
@mmyers I didn't complain because of @balpha's cryptic comment.
@mmyers IP address sharing with other trolls?
4:39 PM
the fishy graphic?
But it's good to hear from someone else, I suppose.
That's really sad. Did he even get a warning, or like a lot of the others just a sudden thing.
@jjnguy Got it in one. And that's the last I'll say about it.
Woot, what's my prize?
I guess being right is enough for me...
Evening just testing chat on my phone while im on my way home from work :)
4:40 PM
It works on your phone? @Sekhat
I'll just hope you're not driving right now. Although I do like to imagine Sekhat swerving from lane to lane as he tries to click a minuscule avatar to make it stop bouncing
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Hahaha
It's really a bad deal when rules are set out and not followed by the Team.
@MichaelMrozek you missed it.. we were talking about you!
Just about. Its a bit iffy usable
4:42 PM
@Fosco That's pretty much never a good sign. The meta post argument, I assume?
Which I stand by, by the way -- that guy was not "confused"
@MichaelMrozek Your trolldar is superior to mine, sir.
Lol, no driving just the bus
@MichaelMrozek Yeah.. with Frosty.. Scroll up to see how it was handled, lol.
@MichaelMrozek You shouldn't have called him liar, he was right about chat not having a logout.
@LanceRoberts He really wasn't, and I know he wasn't because I was there when balpha told him how to do it
4:44 PM
@MichaelMrozek Yeah, he was not posting blatant lies
The Blatant Lie
Maybe not "blatant", I was frustrated after dealing with him all morning, but "There is no way to logout of the chat" is not correct, and he knew it when he said it
@MichaelMrozek I was getting fed up with him too
why doesnt chat show the full link? There appears to be plenty of room
4:45 PM
@JoePhillips That will not update your reputation in chat
@JoePhillips Does that actually work? I'm afraid to click it :)
@MichaelMrozek no, it's XSRF protected
Who is concerned about rep updating in chat? What I was saying is that the argument was entirely pointless.
The last 15 min in here has been entirely pointless
@Joe, what did you expect?
4:46 PM
I don't give a rip about rep updating in chat, but it's a legitimate feature request.
@LanceRoberts yes, and everyone agrees with that
LOL, I step out of the chat for a while to try and get work done and miss all the juicy bits ;-)
@josh seems to be the way. :(
Well lunchtime for me -- You all have fun throwing troll labels and XSRF requests to each other while I'm gone! ;-)
when I sign up for new stackexchange sites it seems like it randomly chooses my display name
4:55 PM
+1 @Joe
Are display names provided by the OpenID provider? I'm not really sure how it works
I know OpenID supports that, but I don't know if SO uses it
I dont think SO uses it because I have different names on different sites
I thought mine was automatically Fosco on every site by default.
Mine has been, but I keep using the same one and it auto-associates with the others, so it could just be copying my display name from the other sites automatically
@Fosco if you have the same name on all sites it's not an issue; it's only a problem when you have multiple names.
4:59 PM
I use my own OpenID provider and tried when I first set it up to provide a display name, but I couldn't get SO to recognize it. I'm not sure if that was SO ignoring it or me not providing it correctly though
Unfortunately chat is a bit laggy on my phone. It's not going to the trip home entertainment i was hoping for.

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