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12:23 AM

@ShadowTheKidWizard sorta

2:56 AM

@SonictheAnonymousHedgehog iirc having your username the same as your website is allowed. So unless I'm missing something in the answer I'm not sure why its spam

Sonic the Anonymous Hedgehog

@Ethan Some users post plagiarized or low-quality posts to attract attention to their user profiles.

Ethan

@SonictheAnonymousHedgehog Ah. Guessing you custom flaged

Feeds

3:13 AM

Spacetime Soccer, known outside the United States as '4D Football' is a now-defunct sport. Infamous for referee decisions hinging on inconsistent definitions of simultaneity, it is also known for the disappearance of many top players during... [more]

tripleee

5:39 AM

^ the last two of those are still up

Mithical

double bonk

tripleee

5:53 AM

@ShadowTheKidWizard additional context re: the Jose spam: metasmoke.erwaysoftware.com/post/400812

that one is still up FWIW

Tinkeringbell

6:28 AM

@bobble In that case, I would lean to making a new feature request on puzzling meta for the wider range of changes... but perhaps you can find a chatroom on puzzling/a mod there that also has an opinion? I haven't been around that site :)

tripleee

6:40 AM

flag-pls spam superuser.com/questions/1755557/softgel-capsule-manufacturing

tripleee

8:19 AM

flag-pls spam magento.stackexchange.com/questions/63450/…

Shadow The Kid Wizard

9:01 AM

@Mithical bonk bonk? What's that?

@DialFrost sorta what? Wrong message replied to?

@Ethan this is when you post crap on purpose just to have links to spam profile.

It became very common method of spammers lately.

@Feeds very nice graphics, kudos!

@tripleee not anymore, and cheers for being stubborn with me, guess you're correct. I'll flag in the future. :)

wonder how we don't get tons of fp's for that.

SPArcheon

9:39 AM

@ShadowTheKidWizard Happy now?

Now you can annoy the bot owner.

!!/hats

SmokeDetector

@SPArcheon No such command 'hats'.

WhatsThePoint

could it be construed as suspicious behaviour for user A to offer 4 bounties on user B's questions, and it one case awarding user B said bounty?

Shadow The Kid Wizard

@SPArcheon meh, no way they'll add it back.

@WhatsThePoint yup. Custom flag, point to the other bounties.

hmm

Is this a gesture for pride flag?

Or just colorful design?

@SPA you remember when they started calling it summer bash?

Anyway, the writing is almost unreadable for me, it's kind of hand writing, which only those actually using it can read easily.

(letters are combined.)

Meta Andrew T.

no chicken nor egg?

WhatsThePoint

@ShadowTheKidWizard thanks, have flagged it now

Shadow The Kid Wizard

9:51 AM

@MetaAndrewT. too early, but probably there will be.

@WhatsThePoint cheers!

Meta Andrew T.

perhaps AI-illustrated chicken...

Shadow The Kid Wizard

@MetaAndrewT. custom made and cooked

tripleee

10:09 AM

@ShadowTheKidWizard any time (-:

@ShadowTheKidWizard it does get a fair amount of FPs but on balance it's still useful

Tinkeringbell

@ShadowTheKidWizard Colors are in the 'wrong' order for a pride flag, so if it is one it's a very cowardly one :P

In a 'we can always claim it both is and isn't, depending on public reactions' way :P

Meta Andrew T.

10:57 AM

!!/hats

SmokeDetector

@MetaAndrewT. No such command 'hats'.

SPArcheon

@ShadowTheKidWizard twas a common rant/troll/joke/request for years, until it was finally done in 21, putting an end to the usual "it is not winter here" posts.

@Tinkeringbell "Your character can wear any outfit without gender restriction in the new game. So freedom, much liberty, so expressive! Oh, btw, the male and female player character now use the same model and you can only wear school uniforms with pants."

.... I will wait for a Pokemon game with a Scottish theme where the male main character will wear a kilt.

Shadow The Kid Wizard

@Tinkeringbell might be! lol

Anyone remember what was the previous icon? Same?

@SPArcheon so to match all possible seasons they should call it Winter Summer Spring Autumn Bash. (not kidding, people will now complain it's spring in their place, and will get offended that SE don't care for them.)

SPArcheon

11:13 AM

@ShadowTheKidWizard Just call it "Staff Bash" then, because the sentiment seems to be that...

Shadow The Kid Wizard

@SPArcheon nah

SPArcheon

also, since you like coincidences on movie names...

Spring, Summer, Fall, Winter... and Spring

Spring, Summer, Fall, Winter... and Spring (Korean: 봄 여름 가을 겨울 그리고 봄) is a 2003 South Korean film directed by Kim Ki-duk about a Buddhist monastery that floats on a lake in a pristine forest. The story is about the life of a Buddhist monk as he passes through the seasons of his life, from childhood to old age. The film stars O Yeong-su, Kim Young-min, Seo Jae-kyung and Yeo-jin Ha. The director himself appears as the man in the last stage of life. The film was released in the United States in 2004 by Sony Pictures Classics, in subtitle format. == Synopsis == The film is divided into five segments...

Shadow The Kid Wizard

lol

No coincidences, it's a known fact that these days, there's already existing movie/song/book title for anything one can think of.

@tripleee fair.

SPArcheon

@ShadowTheKidWizard and not every one is worth watching.

And some probably were made under the influence of some mushroom.

See "Jolly Roger", that I think someone here even mentioned before.

Shadow The Kid Wizard

@SPArcheon duh, I'd even say "Most of them are not worth watching".

@SPArcheon Shog

Aug 15, 2011 at 16:26, by Shog9

@EvanCarroll The ship was boarded, the crew killed, the Jolly Roger raised, and a long career of murder and mayhem begun. The blood of martyrs that once stained those decks has been obliterated by that of the many victims broken on it since. You would cling to this ship for the symbolism it once held, ignoring the charnel that surrounds you?!

huh, my inbox count just went down from 72 to 71.

Meaning a comment was deleted.

I wonder how far I can reach before resetting it by mistake.

(then I can get it back only to 50)

hmm oh wait

I have idea how to make it much much bigger.

evil smile

looking that balpha isn't around

SPArcheon

11:28 AM

@ShadowTheKidWizard You realize that @Yaakov added a feature to unread the messages?

I don't know WHY you would want to do that but... you can click an open message to mark it as unread again.

Shadow The Kid Wizard

@SPArcheon yes but it can be done only in the per-site inbox, which has 50 items.

Can't mark as unread from the global inbox on se.com showing all the items.

SPArcheon

@ShadowTheKidWizard I bet that if you twist the api a little...

Shadow The Kid Wizard

@SPArcheon click the envelope only, clicking the message itself will take me to the relevant post/comment/chat.

@SPArcheon great mind think alike! Well, what I have in mind is just send the AJAX requests manually, probably using a script.

SPArcheon

@ShadowTheKidWizard we will miss you.

Shadow The Kid Wizard

hmm wait it requires "relevant post id". ... .... .... oh well I'll try scraping se.com inbox.

@SPArcheon like the desert miss the rain?

SPArcheon

11:33 AM

@ShadowTheKidWizard you know that they actually have a tale about why the desert is so desert?

Shadow The Kid Wizard

@SPArcheon nope. Enlighten me.

Eating a dessert in the desert is a thing though.

SPArcheon

@ShadowTheKidWizard Something about god saying that they would drop a grain of sand on the garden that was there before every time someone would act bad. But I only heard that by chance once in a documentary, you should ask someone else

Shadow The Kid Wizard

@SPArcheon asking @M.A.R. about the story

SPArcheon

Also, very possible that it was made up by the people making the documentary in the first place.

Shadow The Kid Wizard

@SPArcheon indeed. I won't say it's silly, but also not something actual wise people would come up with.

People do so many bad things, that it makes sense.

Mithical

11:44 AM

@ShadowTheKidWizard I meant I cast the last flag on both of the spam posts

Shadow The Kid Wizard

@Mithical huh. Show off! :D

tripleee

12:03 PM

still up 1 2 3 4

Shadow The Kid Wizard

12:56 PM

@tripleee 1 and 2 are not spam, 3 already gone, 4 poofed now.

Strange, spammer has account for 8 months on MSE. (inactive)

Shadow The Kid Wizard

1:23 PM

@JNat cross site spammer for you. :)

tripleee

@ShadowTheKidWizard 1 has recent spam by the same user; that's how it was brought up now

2 similarly documented affiliation via profile etc but gone already now anyway

I can add metasmoke links to these if you like going forward; that would often provide more context, but then my impression was that people here thought metasmoke was cumbersome and weird

Mithical

it is, but it's useful

Tinkeringbell

@SPArcheon Wasn't Sword/Shield already kinda themed on that area?

Shadow The Kid Wizard

1:56 PM

@tripleee it's long time user with gold badge. Moderator saw the answer and did not find it spam. I can't see any proof it's spam i.e. user promoting own product. Sorry, this one won't pass me, but feel free to flag.

(will be declined most likely.)

Don't remember what was 2, but yeah, gone now.

Also, even if long time user with high rep and badges post spam, it does not automatically make all their other posts to become spam.

Accounts can be hacked and/or sold to spammers.

Jitendra Singh

2:14 PM

In one of the questions OP used this image after being asked about the bug which was looking rude to the person who asked where is the bug so I edited it with this image. I hope it is allowed as the images are still almost same

tripleee

FWIW this was the DIY one ("2"): metasmoke.erwaysoftware.com/post/400819

and here is context for #1 metasmoke.erwaysoftware.com/post/400813

Shadow The Kid Wizard

@JitendraSingh yeah, I would have flagged the post as offensive, but guess that's better to just edit.

tripleee

@ShadowTheKidWizard ^^

actually just a test for meta.stackexchange.com/a/384297/169312

Shadow The Kid Wizard

@tripleee hmm yeah the comment does explain, if I would see it before I would have flagged. But without such proof, no way to know it's spam.

@tripleee umm that's a different user. It just proves someone spammed that site.

tripleee

I'll be sure to include metasmoke links going forward then; it's a bit of a drag as long as I mostly post the messages here manually but arguably worth the hassle

Shadow The Kid Wizard

2:24 PM

Again, even if someone spams a site, it can't possibly make all other links to that site become spam.

@tripleee your call. And needed only in edge cases, usually it's clear spam.

tripleee

@ShadowTheKidWizard it's really tricky; the answer was posted by a different user but our spammer somehow managed to get approval for a suggested edit which added the spam link

Shadow The Kid Wizard

@tripleee where?

Are those sock accounts?

@tripleee replied, not a bug and not related to chat.

Top answer already asking to bring back the old behavior, where opening the inbox will mark all as read.

tripleee

superuser.com/posts/1336625/revisions

I can't see security.stackexchange.com/posts/266706/timeline so no longer able to completely retrace

@ShadowTheKidWizard that's different, I just don't want to have to click twice for each chat message I'm notified about

Shadow The Kid Wizard

@tripleee still, different user. And the real spammer is nuked. And hopefully the two who approved got permanent review ban.

People who approve spam should really not review. They only cause harm.

And I still can't see how all of this proves the old time user is a spammer.

tripleee

no, that part is right, I got confused because the spam domain looked so similar to the original

the post is fine after a high-rep user rolled back the spam edit

Shadow The Kid Wizard

2:35 PM

@tripleee why twice? Clicking the inbox item once should both take you to the chat message and mark it as read.

tripleee

@ShadowTheKidWizard I basically never want that; I already have the chat open in a separate tab

Shadow The Kid Wizard

@tripleee oh, so you're one of many who wants the previous behavior where just opening the inbox will mark it as read.

tripleee

right now there is a notification balloon in this window on top of my avatar

that balloon is now gone

Shadow The Kid Wizard

@tripleee it was mod using special and pretty recent power to override the approval, it's as if the edit was never approved.

tripleee

but the inbox notif would stay even though the message it notifies me about is no longer unread by any definition

Shadow The Kid Wizard

2:37 PM

@tripleee yup. That's the new behavior.

Items no longer being marked as read automatically.

tripleee

I'll clarify the bug report - thanks for prodding

Shadow The Kid Wizard

You can trick the system by opening your inbox from within chat, then it will mark all as read like before, because they didn't apply the new inbox in chat yet.

Someone reported this as a bug ^

!!/coffee trip

SmokeDetector

@ShadowTheKidWizard brews a cup of ristretto for @trip

Shadow The Kid Wizard

!!/tea Spe

SmokeDetector

@ShadowTheKidWizard brews a cup of lemon tea for @Spe

Shadow The Kid Wizard

2:41 PM

!!/water @Luuk

SmokeDetector

@ShadowTheKidWizard No such command 'water'.

:9362767 No such command 'water'.

Shadow The Kid Wizard

:(

hmm Smokey used to ignore commands with pings.

tripleee

we had a rather generous amount of these joke commands but it got out of hand when a lot of people started clogging our Github with PRs for new jokes

perhaps we should create a clone account Jokey which only has joke commands

Shadow The Kid Wizard

@tripleee yeah, that's actually fair. :)

...

So maybe have "sd" refer to the last message which is a report? ;)

Shadow The Kid Wizard

5:46 PM

Everyone who lives in the USA stay safe, I just read that robots there will start killing people soon.

They'll add guns and explosives to the above, and send it to kill those who they find worthy to kill.

Any policeman will become judge, jury, and executioner. While good to reduce crime, I'm 1000% certain they'll kill innocents, both for fun (it's no secret there are psycho policemen) and by mistake.

!!/undo killer bots

SmokeDetector

@ShadowTheKidWizard No such command 'undo'.

Shadow The Kid Wizard

:(

Kevin B

6:44 PM

i mean

that's pretty similar to removing crime by ignoring it

M.A.R.

@ShadowTheKidWizard it's just allegorical

Shadow The Kid Wizard

@M.A.R. alleg what? Like allergy?

starball

7:07 PM

@ShadowTheKidWizard suddendly WAG

@ShadowTheKidWizard why do people send cross-site spammer profiles specifically to JNat here?

Tinkeringbell

@ShadowTheKidWizard I mean, in the USA they also already added guns and explosives to cops, and use it against those who they think are unworthy of life :P

It's not like the robot suddenly makes USA police lots more unsafe XD

DavidPostill

@starball JNat is able to delete all the cross-site profiles in 1 go. Mods can only delete them on sites they moderate.

starball

@DavidPostill is there a specific reason why JNat and not other staff?

DavidPostill

@starball He volunteered and seems to enjoy doing it for us.

Mithical

7:22 PM

(they)

2

starball

I see. JNat is they/them right? o- mith beat me to it

Thank you for your service, JNat!

DavidPostill

@Mithical oops :/

Tinkeringbell

7:58 PM

@DavidPostill Takes some getting used to, you're not the only one XD

DavidPostill

@Tinkeringbell Is it a recent change then?

Tinkeringbell

For some measure of recent :)

It's been like that for at least 6 months or maybe even a year, I don't keep track... Then again it doesn't come up that often :)

DavidPostill

thx

Tinkeringbell

Searching for "They" returns zero results, so it's impossible for me to backtrack. Weird. Might make a bug report tomorrow.

Mithical

...you don't need to backtrack, it's kinda weird to care about exactly when someone made that change public. What matters is what's stated now.

Tinkeringbell

8:47 PM

Well, I was asked, didn't know the exact answer, so I look before an exact answer before giving a vague one based on fuzzy recollections. That's not weird, that's how answering a question works.

What's weird is the bug :)

Kevin B

hmm

Tinkeringbell

If you want to tell someone off, go focus on the person that asked, not the one that tried to answer.

Kevin B

why not both

Mithical

*waves stick in the air* I'LL TELL EVERYONE OFF!

It's not about telling anyone in particular off, I'm just saying it's unnecessary to worry about it, and perhaps a slight invasion of privacy to go digging into something personal like that.

Kevin B

it's almost as if simply making the correction started off a wholly unnecessary discussion

Mithical

8:51 PM

Nope.

Tinkeringbell

Apparently not.

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