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Moshe

00:54

Ok, I need a refresher in basic math, methinks.

I have n pictures which I'm showing in a container.

The container is X pixels wide

There can be zero to three pictures.

jcolebrand

what border, margin and padding are you using? Or is this not HTML land?

Moshe

Not HMTL land.

Just math.

jcolebrand

Well the same truths hold, just those are easier to specify

there's always a border, margin and padding

Moshe, it's not basic math if you can't define the problem. You never just jam 3 pictures up beside each other.

Moshe

In UIKit I just specify X and Y values, starting from the top left corner, which is 0,0.

In an app, I'm allowing users to attach photos to an email.

They can attach up to 3 photos.

Because that's what fits on the screen without scrolling and because more than that and there are mail server limits.

@jcolebrand What haven't I defined?

jcolebrand

why not list them vertically? It's what gmail does.

Moshe

01:01

It's iOS. Users demand shiny. Also, lists don't help as much as seeing the image does.

Names are arbitrary and meaningless.

jcolebrand

why does it have to be a name?

get out of that box you're in

Moshe

lol

climbs out

jcolebrand

hell, the mail app in iOS does that, stacks them with the image showing when you attach them

Moshe

ok

jcolebrand

go forward yourself three pictures in iOS

Moshe

01:02

Right, that's true.

jcolebrand

so, as I said. stack them

problem solved

Moshe

Well, I think I might have solved it, so we'll see...

Got it!

    NSInteger numOfPics = self.previews.count;

    NSInteger widthOfScrollView = self.picturesScroller.bounds.size.width;

    NSInteger widthOfPreview = preview.view.frame.size.width;

    NSInteger innerContainerWidth = numOfPics * (widthOfPreview+kPadding);

    NSInteger leftOffset = (widthOfScrollView-innerContainerWidth)/2;

    NSInteger picCenter = leftOffset + (i * (widthOfPreview+kPadding));

Moshe

01:19

@jcolebrand - Problem solved and it's awesome and cool and all that.

Works just like the dock when you have less than 4 icons on it.

jcolebrand

good deal then

jjj

10:14

hey guys

hello

anybody there

Octavian Damiean

No. We're all passed out.

jjj

hello

@OctavianDamiean .. i want to ask about bounty

Octavian Damiean

Well fire away, in the meantime I'm going to search for the bounty faq question.

jjj

who do i ask ?

Octavian Damiean

There you go.

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Q: How does the bounty system work?

What is a bounty? What is the "Featured" tab on the homepage? How can I search for questions that have a bounty attached? How do I start a bounty? When can I start a bounty? How long is the bounty period? How do I award a bounty? Can I award a bounty to my own answer? What happens if there's no ...

jjj

10:23

thanks

Can I award a bounty to my own answer?

No. This used to be possible, but it has been disabled. The user would not get the reputation back, and the bounty will be displayed as +0, “this answer has been awarded bounty worth 0 reputation”.

no way

So that mean i lost my point in my case : stackoverflow.com/questions/8877726/…

@OctavianDamiean

Pekka's Organic Rep Farm

12:08

Eeeeeeek! Where is my flag weight?

Just kidding. I think it's great it's gone.

balpha

12:49

anybody here who had the chat seizures? @YiJiangsProble?

this should now be fixed, please check (after reloading the JS) that it's really gone

@Chris?

jadarnel27

13:25

@jjj Correct (although you could award the bounty to one of the other answers if it help move you in the right direction).

zizi

14:24

@balpha Hello, have time?

balpha

wassup?

zizi

I want to merge my accounts, I changed my email but nothing happened.

balpha

what's the other account?

zizi

I registered in many SE sites with both accounts, does it matter? math.stackexchange.com/users/11549/gigili

balpha

no, that doesn't matter

which account do you want to keep?

zizi

14:31

Gigili

balpha

okay, please put something like "please merge meta.stackoverflow.com/users/177429/zizi into this account" into gigili's "about me" text

as a confirmation that you indeed own both of them

zizi

Okay, I should log out first. Right? and log in as Gigili

balpha

yep

zizi

Okay, thank you @balpha. I'll do it in a few minutes.

@balpha done.

Gigili

372 10

calculus homework algebra-precalculus analysis polynomials roots graph-theory

Please let me know what happened. Thank you again.

I wanted to keep Gigili :(

balpha

14:49

yeah, our merge UI fooled me here... hang on

jadarnel27

The hamsters are working...

balpha

so it turns out that we always merge the newer user into the older one

zizi

Aha. Well then ...

balpha

were the user ids important?

there's a way to undo a merge, it's pretty contrived, though

zizi

But Gigili is newer. I used this account before the other one, then I gave up using my other email by signing out completely from my browser [...]

balpha

15:01

yeah, Gigili is newer, that's why that one was removed in favor of the older one

the only difference is really what user ids you end up with

zizi

If it's not that time-consuming, I'm known on SE sites with my other account (Gigili).

balpha

is it just about the name?

jadarnel27

@zizi You can change your display name any time

Yi Jiang's Proble_

@zizi You can change your account details on any one of the accounts and push it to all of the other accounts

zizi

@balpha I was about to ask it, the only difference is my display name now?

Yi Jiang's Proble_

15:02

Also, @balpha I don't see the problem right now, but the problem isn't very reproducible

zizi

Ah yes, you're right ...

Yi Jiang's Proble_

There's also the email address, which affects your gravatar

zizi

Got it now, Thank you for your time balpha.

Thank you Yi.

jadarnel27

17:05

is reconsidering his career choice due to the fact that, at this very moment, his brother is getting paid to play in a ball pit.

Popular Demand

17:49

@jadarnel27 You would rather spend your days surrounded by noisy, hyperactive kids in a hole filled with years of dried drool than sitting in an air-conditioned office building?

David

@PopularDemand You underestimate the level of filth in the average office building.

As well as the level of irritating noise. At least kids have an excuse for spewing forth nonsense that gives reasonable people a headache.

jadarnel27

@PopularDemand ...well when you put it that way...*shudders*...

I've looked into this, and I can't figure out a way to do it cheaply. And I guess it wouldn't be sanitary.

Moshe

18:22

Kids have an excuse?

Chris

18:33

@balpha Should a forced page reload do the trick (Shift+Reload in Firefox)?

I just did that and I don't notice any more scroll jittering, but the problem did seem to be intermittent anyway

I'll definitely keep an eye on it, though, and let you know if the problem recurs

balpha

thanks

Chris

Just out of curiosity, what did you determine the issue to be?

balpha

I'll write it up in a meta answer tomorrow. It boils down to the fact that document heights (in pixels) in FF aren't necessarily integers

Chris

Ooohhhhh

Tricky

Tim Stone

FF is a n00b.

sub-pixel rendering, pssh.

Popular Demand

18:38

@TimStone Look who's talking.

Jan 19 at 21:06, by Popular Demand

And in Tim's dreams, sometimes there are... half-pixel differences.

Tim Stone

Touché

Trufa

19:02

Hey guys! Long time no see!

Does anybody remember a popular question that was a sort of contest to break a md5 hashed password

The title was something like how secure is md5

I though it was from col. shrapnel, but apparently not...

Maybe it got deleted?

Got it

stackoverflow.com/questions/2768248/is-md5-really-that-bad

But I can't see it...

Bummer

Anonymous

@Trufa fiddle.jshell.net/58n9U/show (excluding hidden comments)

Trufa

@JeremyBanks Awesome :)

Thank you very much, I was not aware of this wizardry, but I like it!

Anonymous

Deleted questions make Jeremy sad.

balpha

at least you remembered to edit out your fkey :)

Anonymous

@balpha Ha! Does logging out/logging back in invalidate previous ones? I realized I didn't clear it last time I copied a page, so I immediately logged out/in thinking it might.

balpha

19:14

yes, logging out is fine

Trufa

@balpha pardon my ignorance! what's the fkey?

balpha

the XSRF token

Cross-site request forgery

Cross-site request forgery, also known as a one-click attack or session riding and abbreviated as CSRF (sometimes pronounced sea-surf Unlike cross-site scripting (XSS), which exploits the trust a user has for a particular site, CSRF exploits the trust that a site has in a user's browser. Background CSRF vulnerabilities have been known and in some cases exploited since 2001. Because it is carried out from the user's IP address, some website logs might not have evidence of CSRF. there are few well-documented examples. About 18 million users of eBay's Internet Auction Co. at Auction.co.kr in ...

scroll down to "prevention"

Trufa

@balpha thanks! I'll take a look!

Moshe

Someone who speaks to Joel via IM, please nag him to check his email. :-)

Chris

19:34

@Trufa A bit of research also brings up the following article written by Jeff in 2008

codinghorror.com/blog/2008/10/…

Huh. Coding Horror doesn't onebox.

Trufa

@Chris Ironic?

This web security stuff doesn't cease to blow my mind.

Chris

@Trufa I was actually just searching for the right word to describe the situation, but I'm not sure that "ironic" is it

jadarnel27

@Chris How about "chumptastic"

Trufa

@jadarnel27 I think we are gettin' somewhere now!

jadarnel27

=)

jadarnel27

20:04

Bah. I am in a constant state of forgetting that NULL is not equal to NULL.

jadarnel27

20:35

@TimStone FYI, apparently you get a YSOD if you go to data.stackexchange.com/scifi/queries (rather than the amusing 404 page).

Tim Stone

Hmm

I'm not sure why that is, there's code in place that should catch that condition. I'll check when I get home, though, thanks for the heads-up!

jadarnel27

No problem!

Chris

Ouch

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The meta question itself is kind of funny in its own way, though

Moshe

ObjectiveC or C++ pocket reference? Only can get one.

Anonymous

4

A: Is humour allowed in questions?

I would recommend avoiding any attempt at humor until you've mastered more English. I honestly could not tell that was humor, and besides, as Oded correctly noted, such "only a joke" questions are not allowed on Stack Overflow or for that matter anywhere else on the Stack Exchange network.

Anonymous

20:48

Hilarious. Here's the original: fiddle.jshell.net/R3fJG/show

Popular Demand

@JeremyBanks Clever fiddling.

Chris

Wow, I didn't realize that it cost $40 to ship a Stack Exchange T-shirt to the UK

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Q: What's up with the shipping rates on the Stack Exchange store?

And I mean $40 shipping for a $15 T-shirt? I have this image here from a previous quote(didn't place it then) where 2xbeer steins and a T-shirt resulted in $24 shipping.. which is reasonable considering the items, but, golly $40 for a T-shirt? Rebecca Chernoff mentions if your subtotal...

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@PopularDemand Sorry, the first image I posted was from Mr. Disappointment's comment

Is there a way to onebox or link to comments from chat?

Popular Demand

No.

Chris

Didn't think so

Anonymous

No oneboxing, but you can get the id from the source to link directly to one: /questions/120063/isnt-the-insert-platform-specific-site-here-redundant/#comment-317054

Anonymous

21:02

There's someway to highlight it too...

Chris

@JeremyBanks Where's the comment number come from?

Anonymous

@Chris You have to look in the page source for the comment.

Anonymous

/questions/120063/isnt-the-insert-platform-specific-site-here-redundant/#comment``$COMMENTID``_$POSTID`

Anonymous

Example: /questions/120063/isnt-the-insert-platform-specific-site-here-redundant/#comment317054_120064

Chris

/questions/119980/comment-316867

Anonymous

21:07

@Chris /questions/119980/#comment316867_119980

Chris

Just reproduced to the UK out of curiosity: i.imgur.com/fmMzb.png Ahhh! Won't be renewing mine for a good while.

Anonymous

Sorry, the /-relative links don't actually work in chat.

Chris

@JeremyBanks Cool, got it

I also find the following line in the page source amusing

<span title="number of 'great comment' votes received" class="cool">2</span>

Apparently two upvotes means that a comment is "cool"

Anonymous

Ha, I didn't see that.

jadarnel27

Hahaha

Chris

21:10

Oh, wait a minute

<span title="number of 'great comment' votes received" class="warm">6</span>

"Cool" apparently doesn't mean what you think it does :)

Popular Demand

I believe the other settings are "hot" and "supernova."

Chris

It's like chicken wing flavors

Popular Demand

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A: How is the color for the upvote count on comments calculated?

css .supernova { color: #FE7A15 !important; } .hot { color: #CF7721 !important; } .warm { color: #9B764F !important; } .cool { color: #999 !important; } js // e.g. options = { min: 15, max: 300, setIsValid: function } var max = options.max; var css = cur > max * 0.8 ? "supernova" : cu...

Chris

@PopularDemand Man, you're good with those references

Anonymous

:P I thought you were joking. "supernova", indeed.

Popular Demand

21:12

@Chris Well, it's not hard to sift through search results for "supernova."

Chris

@PopularDemand Ah, fair enough. Did you use a Google search or Meta SO's own search engine?

Popular Demand

The MSO search.

Chris

Hm, okay

I get mixed results with that

but naturally "supernova" would be hard to miss

Popular Demand

I meant that I searched for "supernova."

Only seven results, and the top one was the one I wanted.

Chris

Right, exactly

It works well when you're searching for a word that's rarely used on Meta SO

Anonymous

22:22

Can only 10k+s see the "close" tab in /review?

Kevin

At 4k, I can't see it.

Anonymous

okay, thanks.

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