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Alex

1:41 AM

Is there any query that shows number of closes/reopens by gold-badge-users for a given tag in a particular date range? E.g. in 2019 in insert-tag-here User X closed 14 questions and reopened 6, User Y closed 11 questions and reopened 1, etc.

Sonic the Reinstate Monica-hog

@Alex There's a Data Explorer room on this chat server

Alex

@SonictheReinstateMonica-hog For real?

Sonic the Reinstate Monica-hog

Yes

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Alex

Thanks.

User37849012643

5:56 AM

I leave for 3 weeks and there's a gofundme with 15k. What is going on.

Meta Andrew T.

6:10 AM

@User37849012643 nothing new. Check the GoFundMe page for more (or less, the same) details.

Journeyman Geek

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M.A.R.

7:19 AM

We've successfully metamorphosed into discussing discussing things, rather than discussing things.

Evolutionary advantages include important-sounding procrastination

Journeyman Geek

meta-morphosed you say?

M.A.R.

Yeeees. eye roll

rene

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M.A.R.

@Alex no, it's a figment of my imagination

Ur a figment too, figment.

There's rarely ever anything that's too much for me, but figs are that

At least the real ones

Not fig figments

mag

morning

M.A.R.

7:30 AM

Morgen Mag

Tinkeringbell

Goedemorgen!

rene

Goeiesmorgens deze morgen

Meta Andrew T.

Selamat pagi

(language too far away...)

Tinkeringbell

Bonjour!

@MetaAndrewT. I think I've heard it before though...

Or read....

JAD

moguh

Tinkeringbell

7:44 AM

môi!

JAD

:grumble:

Tinkeringbell

What's wrong?

JAD

Oh, I thought we were doing shorter and shorter greetings

Journeyman Geek

!

Tinkeringbell

Ohhh... people don't grumble over here, that'd be rude :P

JAD

7:49 AM

:grunt: then

mag

8:03 AM

@JAD How's snor these days?

JAD

@mag Actually, I was gonna throw some pictures into the litterbox today

lemme do that right now

JAD

8:21 AM

@mag see the Litter Box :)

djsmiley2k - CoW

9:17 AM

huym de dum

this sickness is NOT fun :<

today i feel like i've been punched in the stomach

Tinkeringbell

9:36 AM

Ugh. That sounds bad, get well soon!

djsmiley2k - CoW

slowly wearing off this morning

/me wobbles

Tinkeringbell

That sounds better :)

I'm at an office where I used to work everyday 2 years ago... It's good :)

djsmiley2k - CoW

o_O

Nothing changed?

Tinkeringbell

Oh, there's plenty of new faces... but the old ones are still there too, and just as nice as I remember them ;)

djsmiley2k - CoW

=)

rene

9:47 AM

@Bart did you ever use Unity web player? Thoughts? Things to be aware off?

Rob

10:19 AM

@rene, I can see one downside, a quick search turns up this 3rd party comparison: filmora.wondershare.com/video-player/…

rene

@Rob LOL, I didn't get that far

Rob

✔️

rene

Point is, its not video content I need to play. It is more VR like / 3D visualization stuff on a map.

Rob

What features did you want? - Tiny, different video containers / encodings, ... OK, I'll take a look.

rene

@Rob I'm probably looking for ways to combine IFC on a map, for example openstreetmap.

Rob

10:26 AM

Need more than this: threejs.org Demo: nationalgeographic.com/science/2017/09/…

rene

@Rob that looks promising

Rob

I think this is what is recommended: wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/F3DB

rene

IE11 support is kansloos in proper Dutch

Tinkeringbell

*proper Dutch

Rob

I think here: gis.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/openstreetmap is the place to ask, I have to go for ~ 1 hour.

rene

10:32 AM

I'll have some things to read, thank for now!

Rob

✔️

M.A.R.

12:38 PM

@SmokeDetector Is this really F?

Oh, well, I trust tripleee

Shadow The Princess Wizard

2:00 PM

@IamMonica what locks will it open?

Bart

@rene the old Web Player no longer exists. You can however export to WebGL. That should work fine. It depends a bit on what you want to do. 3D vs 2D. Content size. How graphically expensive, etc.

I am Monica

2:28 PM

@ShadowThePrincessWizard the windows to your soul?

Tinkeringbell

2:49 PM

Close them again right now, please :P

rene

@Bart Yeah, the WebGL and the openstreetmap stuff I saw looks like a better alternative. I need to support a municipality and IE11 doesn't do WebGL so I have to check if that become a blocker.

Thanks for the feedback

Feeds

3:07 PM

Ben Popper is the Worst Coder In The World: Quantum Edition

Ben Popper on November 08, 2019

Welcome back to The Worst Coder in the World. Last time I talked about my experience learning HTML and CSS. Since then I moved on to the JavaScript portion of the FreeCodeCamp curriculum.

Like my experience with the basic HTML lessons, going over grade school addition, subtraction, multiplication, and division made me feel silly. Does it feel less embarrassing if you’re learning to code when you’re still a kid, and this kind of work is part and parcel of regular school?

But like Paul said on the podcast below, the nice thing about acquiring some new knowledge, even basic stuff, is that you …

I am Monica

3:48 PM

@rene IE11? :/

Mgetz

@rene they can't use Edge?

JAD

Does Edge work on XP?

hmm, looks like it does

Mgetz

@JAD I don't support dead OSes?

if it's not in MS's support list I don't care

Kevin B

4:05 PM

o/

if only we could force users to not use garbage software

Mgetz

@KevinB I just won't accept jobs that require supporting it? Not unless MS signs off on it.

I can't be held liable for the security or other issues that arise from using unsupported software

rene

@IamMonica yes. That is what you get if there is a monopoly and that company simply refuses to update their stuff so it works on a modern platform. And you can't shutdown all public services for 12 months to build something new.

Mgetz

@rene but edge has an IE11 mode?

rene

I'm not intimate on the exact details why they force IE11 on their users. I'll ask around a bit next week.

Kevin B

We still technically support IE11, it's just an afterthought

Mgetz

4:13 PM

@rene my guess? FUD, and resistance to change. But Edge has Enterprise Mode

that they can set up to support the single sites that need IE11

Kevin B

I still use CSS and HTML techniques that specifically work on IE11 over ones i know won't work in IE11

Mgetz

This will continue to work in the New edge seemlessly

@KevinB I do CSS that falls back to basic layout in IE11 but doesn't look like complete garbage

Kevin B

exactly

i'm not sacrificing performance/functionality for new stuff, but at the same time i'm not gonna leave the page looking like crap in ie11, it's gotta at least work

Mgetz

Well for example I'll use CSS grid that IE11 can't use

etc.

but make sure that the flow layout works fine, is just maybe a little less efficient

Kevin B

i haven't messed with css grid yet

rene

4:23 PM

@Mgetz that analysis fits. I'll see if that Enterprise Mode is something of interest for them.

Mgetz

@rene it significantly improves user experience and security

IE should be avoided except when it absolutely can't be

Kevin B

we used to have that problem here, but they ripped off that bandaid and now just deal with the old stuff not quite lookin right in new browsers

Mgetz

@KevinB that's really the best choice if possible

fbueckert

4:36 PM

@rene! New development!

They've cut me a check and want me to pick it up today.

I am Monica

@rene :/

fbueckert

Five days before court.

Kevin B

interesting

that's the whole... solar panel situation iirc, right?

rene

@fbueckert wow!

fbueckert

@rene Also, I turned it down.

@KevinB Yes. It's been a debacle this year.

LinkBerest

4:48 PM

@Mgetz I though IE11 could support Grid (I know 10 cannot....yes, I know of companies that still have 10 and don't get me started)

I am Monica

as I recall, its grid support is spotty

LinkBerest

Or is it just IE11 supports an old version of Grid and I need the new features too much to support a small subset of users who won't/cannot upgrade (which is understandable)

Mgetz

@LinkBerest MS specific non flexible syntax

I am Monica

doesn't handle templates properly

Mgetz

I have used it

LinkBerest

4:54 PM

I remember there being a lot of problems with -ms-grid-row & -ms-grid-columns but then again I was lucky enough last year to get higher up approval to add a check and banner that says "The displays on this page do not support IE. Please use another browser to view them" so haven't looked at it past that point :)

Mgetz

@LinkBerest well they aren't dynamic for one

LinkBerest

no auto-placement? bleh :P

Mgetz

nope, no grid-template

LinkBerest

again I say bleh :P

I am Monica

feels good to be able to use modern features

Still cracks me up that Opera uses Blink and Edge is going to use Chromium.

LinkBerest

5:04 PM

we actually switched because of issues with realtime charts (which was the main HTML/CSS/JS things I made) when dealing with IE.

Final straw was when someone asked for support for "IE9".....manager lost it, was pretty funny (and effective)

ArtOfCode

well... IE9 is better than IE6 I suppose

Mgetz

@ArtOfCode I don't support browsers not in support, and I advise against supporting browsers that take a ton of extra time to support

LinkBerest

not really, cause if you give room there it leads to "Well, we really like Win XP"....its a bad rabbit hole to fall into

Mgetz

@LinkBerest generally speaking I advocate latest only

LinkBerest

our answer to XP (also Vista but I never really hear anyone ask about Vista support) is: "we'll point you to a recycle center & give you a suggestion on new computers"

our answer to "how can I ensure my data isn't going to be stolen off my old XP machines" is: "don't worry, we have a lot of volunteers and plenty of hammers" ;)

curious

5:30 PM

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terdon

6:08 PM

@LinkBerest And what's your answer to "But a hammer doesn't really destroy a hard drive"? :P

Mgetz

@terdon Degauss, destroy, bake

terdon

:)

I am Monica

6:26 PM

kind of wish we could migrate this to meta.SE so I can get a boatload of rep.

Actually, I guess votes probably wouldn't transfer... womp

curious

8:35 PM

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Kevin B

10:16 PM

🍺

Journeyman Geek

11:00 PM

@terdon You drill through the platter

@LinkBerest I used every dirty trick I could to get my dad off XP 🤣

David A

There are specialized disk-killer machines that are usually not far from the racks (at least in the datacenters I've been in).

Journeyman Geek

11:19 PM

@LinkBerest Many XP PC's would run 10 fine. My dad ran a 2007 era Thinkpad with a SSD upgrade

Rob

11:40 PM

Will it shred?

SSI's Shred of the Week: Hard Drives

►

David A

I checked one of my refurbished desktops and it had 4 RAM sticks from three different manufacturers. They're not even at the same speed. Still passed memtest86.

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