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Happy "Getting scared shitless"

I never really "got" Halloween

Nobody does. It's a mishmash of traditions from different cultures amalgamated into one day.

rene

@Cerbrus please explain Sint Maarten ...

@rene I couldn't

As it's not a thing where I live

Jewish holidays are mostly clear. I think. :P

rene

1:20 PM

Halloween is just a cover-up for a conspiracy between Dentists, Sugar Farmers and Candy manufactures. They all win. Poor kids ...

John Dvorak

Don't forget swag shops

check

They're in, too

@rene and Santa?

I even bought some actual candy to give out this year

user271002

1:22 PM

Great Pumpkin

The Great Pumpkin is an unseen holiday figure in the comic strip Peanuts by Charles M. Schulz.The Great Pumpkin is a holiday figure in whom only Linus van Pelt believes. According to Linus, the Great Pumpkin flies around bringing toys to sincere and believing children on Halloween evening. Every year, Linus sits in a pumpkin patch (a place Linus believes is the most sincere and lacking in hypocrisy) on Halloween night waiting for the Great Pumpkin to appear. Invariably, the Great Pumpkin fails to turn up, but a humiliated yet undefeated Linus stubbornly vows to wait for him again the following...

@mag kids actually come to your house asking for candies?

yes, usually

not very many

I only see that in TV shows. :/

not giving them any is a good way to get your house egged or similar

@mag well if you always refused to give them anything, they probably told the others no point to come. ;)

Rubiksmoose

1:24 PM

I'm looking forward to seeing if we get any kids at our new house.

Not looking to be a good test year though... it's really rainy today

@Rubiksmoose let me guess, you installed a fence around it? With watch dogs? :D

@Rubiksmoose it even affects Nick!

twitter.com/Nick_Craver/status/1189861291026001927

Rubiksmoose

@Shadow No way! If I installed a fence, how would I get a chance to yell at whippersnappers to get off my lawn! I thought that was the main benefit to home ownership.

lol

lol @Rubiksmoose, and hi everyone :-)

Rubiksmoose

:) Hi.

1:28 PM

@Kenny83 hey! Welcome to the Tavern.

@Shadow Thanks for inviting me!

!!/coffee Kenny

@Shadow brews a cup of Mocha for @Kenny

Enjoy our local coffee machine! :P

directs all the flow of coffee to himself for various reasons

1:30 PM

Cheers takes the cup and blows on it gently before taking a sip mmmm is that an arabica blend?

@ThomasWard whoa! pointing towards the toilets behind the Tavern

lol @ThomasWard

:D

i have had zero coffee in the past 48 hours

i'm an IT Security guy, we NEED coffee to survive

@ThomasWard so.... why?!

1:31 PM

... that or the life force of others we sap but meh.

Why no coffee?

ran out at home

we ran out yesterday at work

Supermarket....

Coffee shop....

and i am currently out of 'spare funds' to buy coffee

until next paycheck

E:BILLS

@Shadow Thats not true, the last 3 kids that came around last year got the remainder of all sweets I had left

which was a family size bag of snickers

1:31 PM

@ThomasWard ouch. No credit?

@Kenny83 best of the best, sure. ;)

@Shadow thats what the bills are for :P

OMG, somebody get this man some coffee!!

there's coffee here now though at work

!!/tea Thomas

@Shadow brews a cup of chamomile tea for @Thomas

1:32 PM

we got some arriving this morning xD

erases SmokeDetector's tea function oopsies :)

lol

I'm paranoid as hell I always keep 6 months living expenses in my main account

lol

Well back when I lived in a village, the local market just wrote what we bought on a paper, and we could pay even two months later.

lol OMG so much for getting any work done this morning...you're all going to keep me chained to this chat room! :P

1:34 PM

@Loong and quite ironically, the one that actually gets to see it is....

@mag how you calculate it?

!!/chain Kenny

@Shadow No such command 'chain'.

Milhouse from the Simpsons

@Kenny83 and you still didn't do what you came here to do... (I think? ;))

@Shadow rent + clothes/misc expenditure over 5 years averaged down to month + monthly average of food/drink over last year +25% + fixed obligations (subscriptions, etc) + 200€ buffer per month

x6 for 6 months

1:36 PM

Yeah about that...thanks for reminding me lol. But I don't even know how :$

@mag meh. Is coffee included? ;)

@Kenny83 here's an example. Ready?

@Bart hello! I just wanted to thank you for everything and say I admire you for what you do.

See? ^

Just replace "Bart" with other name, and maybe change text. ;)

lol @mag, I know maths is important in IT but seriously?? That's some serious forethought

You can also leave Bart in there, he enjoys compliments. :D

Ahhh if that's all you meant @Shadow. Too easy ;-)

:D

1:39 PM

@mag a few jobs on, I actually assume I could basically get asked to quit immediately

Hey @MonicaCellio, I just wanted to say I am so sorry for what's happening to you, and thank you so much for all of your contributions to SE. Keep your chin up, we're all rooting for you!

8

@Shadow next time use a more convincing name than mine. Thanking and admiring me is something nobody sane does.

@Bart seen anyone sane around?!

:P

Point taken

lmao you guys are a crack up!

1:41 PM

I could use Shog, as a way to get kicked...

@Kenny83 thanks! I guess? :D

ok... Fine, I guess

0_0

@Kenny83 overkill, most likely. Like I said, I'm paranoid with money

oh you meant the name... Quote next time!

rubbing sore butt

rene

1:43 PM

:D

I meant Nog!

@Nog always Shine.

@mag ahh...I didn't want to say it, but...yeahhhh lol

@JourneymanGeek I have 3 layers of protection against being canned, unless I do something criminal even if they want to let me go for not doing my job they have to wait a whole year, but even then, i'm still somewhat paranoid

I keep wondering, how you always pop when your name is mentioned without a ping? @Shog ;)

No that's better than my philosophy...wait until the machine says "card declined" and they cut it up :-/

1:45 PM

@Shadow how do you hear your name across a crowded room?

@mag I'm the same. Which at the same time provided a great amount of liberty when the sh*t hit the fan at my previous job. Easy to walk out of a bad situation.

Man this place reminds me of MSN chat rooms...I could get lost in conversations there for days. I'd better not let that happen now. Thanks for the laughs peeps, but I'm out before I end up in the same boat that @mag is talking about lol

I remember from some time ago that shog prefers not to be pinged unless absolutely necessary. I guess with that comes a certain word crowd awareness of his own name

@Shadow Hint: use homoglyphs when talking about the Տһοɡ9, so He won't be able to use search and see you mentioned His Name.

@Bart Thats another part of it. If my job seriously ticks me off, I can hand in my notice tomorrow and will be fine.

1:50 PM

It should be basic knowledge for any wizard, really. Anyone knows that writing Տһοɡ9 name in clear characters summon Him to the chat.

@SPArchaeologist-様 Shog doesn't search. He senses.

@Shog9 when it's being shouted, of course

@Kenny83 hehe, no worry many times it's just silent and/or boring here. ;)

@mag true of most people outside conversation D:

@JourneymanGeek yeah but shog once explicitly told me

or rather, I heard shog say it once

Well, he's also busy

like a bodyless head. Or a headless chicken. Or something

1:57 PM

@Shadow lol yeah that's the funny thing about chat rooms...dead one minute, livelier than a bar at 9pm on a Saturday the next. Anyway so long and thanks for all the fish!

feature request. @ᛋᚺᛟᚷᚾᛁᚢ should ping Shog.

(I mean, we should support pinging Shog using runes)

More technically that would be a summoning

@mag not to Sonic?

@JourneymanGeek feature request: 100 rep penalty for anyone who ignore pings! :D

@Shadow I could afford that...

@JourneymanGeek I see you don't really grasp what Shadow means with "ping", right?

@Shadow do you still have that screenshot of the "Attack of the Thousands Pings" ninjitsu?

2:07 PM

@SPArchaeologist-様 this?

The Ultimate Ping Revenge Attack

Jun 11 '15 at 21:40, 1 hour 19 minutes total – 200 messages, 1 user, 0 stars

Bookmarked Jun 11 '15 at 23:01 by Shadow

Only 200, not 1000

"only"

And no, bots were not used there at all.

Wrote those lines one by one. (Well, copy&paste, but still.... ;))

not per ping ;p

I watched some movie while doing it, forgot which. :/

If it was per ping... I could probably still afford it for a while

2:09 PM

oh... maybe GoT chapter...

D:

:P

Going to shopping soon, what should I buy in the supermarket?

cheese

-check

user351483

@Shadow Pickled Aardvarks

2:13 PM

Also in the list milk, Challah, tissue paper, eggs, and hair cream. (for wife)

user351483

Darned autocorrect, I meant Pickled Zebras.

lol

@Shadow You forgot Panda

@Snow well I do like those pickled small cucumbers with dots on them... but they cost a lot.

Can't ever say no to Panda.

2:15 PM

@SPArchaeologist-様 already got one

user351483

@Shadow Gherkins?

@Shadow oh, you actually got the reference?

user351483

Or Leopard slugs? They're easy to confuse.

@SPArchaeologist-様 of course not... got such a panda:

@SPArchaeologist-様 cheese? Got tons of those. ;)

@Snow yes! :D

2:21 PM

@Shadow see here. You will understand....

Never say no to Panda!

This is more like what I buy: (very similar, not that specific brand though)

It is a reference to a pretty weird TV advertisement for a brand of cheese.

look at the video I just posted - those were the actual aired ads.

heh

> In 2010, the commercials won two grands prix at the Dubai Lynx International Advertising Festival in May,[4] a Silver Film Lion at the Cannes International Advertising Festival in June,[5] and a Gold for Film at the Epica Awards.[6]

@Shadow what can I say.... they are weird. But they get their purpose done.

Yup

2:26 PM

You will remember that panda.

Here's local ad that was REALLY funny... many years ago:

הקרב על המילקי

Oh wait.... still funny. :D

But Milky isn't in my list.

Zelda A link to the Past Comercial Japones

@Shadow can't do worse than this...

guh.... my eyes.. yeah, can't argue.

Japanese commercial are... weird.

Wouldn't that make them normal by Japanese standards?

Lunar: Silver Star Story (Playstation) - TV Commercial

2:37 PM

the PS1 Lunar port wasn't any better.

@Cerbrus maybe... need someone Japanese to confirm. :)

@Shadow If anything, it would then be a paradox... It's so weird it's normal, which means it's no longer weird, so no longer normal, which makes it too weird to be normal...

lol

head spins

UNDERGROUND ZOMBIES (CRANKS) SCENE - THE MAZE RUNNER "SCORCH TRIALS" PT1/2 1080pHD

2:55 PM

on an unrelated notice, recently I kinda saw the second Maze Runner movie.

It is just me, or does this scene scream "The Last of Us"?

I can swear I saw a discussion on meta about "what is 'community'?" but I can't find it...

not the community user, but like about the importance of listening to active meta users

can anyone link something on that topic? maybe I can find the rest through the linked questions section

Nog Shine

@Shadow Shog is mighty. He is mighty Shog.

Transformation Completed.

@NogShine Shine is the Nog.

:)

@Shadow I will give you a clue

Undertale -> Deltarune

ShogNine -> NogShine

Illuminati confirmed

@user1306322 this, perhaps?

(excellent reading anyway)

3:04 PM

ok thanks that's the starting point, I was looking for more info on it in general anyway

@SPArchaeologist-様 :P

@SonictheReinstateMonica-hog I read up on this before, but never asked: could you register an inconspicuous account to do essentially the same, or was it not a viable option under those circumstances?

Such account can be easily nuked so it's pointless.

If you keep changing IP's, you can, in theory, keep abusing edits for long time.

@user1306322 Its still getting around a suspension

its a no no

I suspect if its the user I think it is, he could probably very politely work something out. I donno

?

3:12 PM

@Shadow oh, I'm aware of a suspended user who does suggested anon edits on a specific post

@JourneymanGeek oh... that. Those are totally valid edits, yes.

And I don't consider this as bypassing suspension.

@Shadow he still shouldn't be doing them but eh

@Shadow oh. I do, but eh

@JourneymanGeek why not? It's helping the site, and there's nothing in this for him.

No rep, no fame.

It's like banning suspended user from even reading the site...

@user1306322 Meta.SO has an excellent FAQ entry on sock-puppet no-nos

3:15 PM

@user58 whoa! Missed your daily pictures! :D

@Shadow erf. Reasons? But yeah, its a case of "I know its wrong, but if it serves the greater good, and he dosen't get up to what got him suspended... meh"

@JourneymanGeek I must have missed the bit about suspensions, I was under impression that it was not possible for personal reasons to use an account with a clear identifiable image?

Anyway, thought we discussed the person suggesting the recent bad edits....

Kevin B

meh

@Shadow I've been busy. This was just a quick snap on my phone, not even with my camera.

3:17 PM

@user58 still nice. :)

@Shadow Reading a site genreally doesn't involve a HTTP POST :P

@user1306322 :for some reason I am having trouble parsing that

But I'm sitting outside waiting for someone as the sun goes down, so I couldn't resist.

@user58 I see. Hope that someone arrives soon then. :)

Kevin B

there are very few places around here where you can get a good picture of the sunrise/sunset

3:18 PM

Guess they're going to drive you home? @user58

Nope. I'm waiting for them to arrive so we can set up a sound system for a concert. 🙃

@JourneymanGeek what I understood from what little I've read about Sonic's situation: Sonic's fam was mad about "using too much internet" and said to delete that account, and so Sonic had to stay on the down low by making anonymous contributions as an unregistered user. I might have completely misunderstood as I have only read bits and pieces of the story.

@user1306322 that's about right, yes.

So? Why not allow such cases?

so my question was, was it possible for Sonic to register a "user12341243" account and use that

So weird, small version of my chat avatar is still cached. :(

3:22 PM

my chat just reloaded, did you change your avatar?

@ShadowThePrincessWizard nope, I'm seeing it small and clear

@user1306322 yes I did. Name and avatar.

there's suddenly a lot less red

@MetaAndrewT. but bird or wizardess?

ah

3:23 PM

@user1306322 he could, just to have it removed by parents again.

@ShadowThePrincessWizard wizardess, though the crop wasn't that great

:/

!!/blame

@ShadowThePrincessWizard It's Cerbrus's fault.

uh oh

@ShadowThePrincessWizard this is one exceptional example of a good usage of proposed edits from anonymous users on meta, but I don't think the statistics of abusive anonymous proposed edits make sense to leave this functionality open on meta

3:23 PM

@MetaAndrewT. I didn't crop, it's all imgur fault. :D

idk tho

@user1306322 meh, it's easy to reject bad edits.

I haven't seen the stats

if the general sentiment is "meh" and nobody actually has a considerable problem with this, then I'm fine with that

Good.... I guess. ;)

@user1306322 Sonic wasn't suspended though

3:25 PM

Suspended by parents.

Kevin B

i mean... is this not what sonic had been doin for years anyway

:shrug;

@JourneymanGeek I have no idea where the "suspended" bit was brought up, I only asked about anonymous suggested edits and possibility of using a default-looking account

but now that we figured out that there is no problem in the first place, that part of discussion is also not important anymore :p

Probably @ShadowThePrincessWizard referring to abuse

Oooh, Shadow is a Wizard again? Well, and a Princess, but that's a given.

I used to think it's cool to be a princess but it's such a job with so many responsibilities...

3:28 PM

@Bart yes and yes... Wizard is back, and Princess is part of promise I've made to @Yve... no worry, it's not permanent. :D

@ShadowThePrincessWizard awww, but you're such a pretty pretty princess

maybe being a wizard helps tho

@Bart careful, I'll blush!

:P

I think you should drop the Wizard and keep the Princess

No fitting Prince on Meta though. :(

3:31 PM

Pringles on Meta

@user58 need a good incentive! ;)

@ShadowThePrincessWizard Well, Prince self-identified as a UTF-8 character

@Machavity ?

is the "+ Show all sites" button/link working for anyone? stackoverflowbusiness.com/advertising/why-stack-overflow

ohhh you mean this...

3:33 PM

Exactly

I was about to feel crazy old for a second

lol

all I see is this and it's making me confused:

ok now it's this lol

@user1306322 on the SVG? hmm... will upload it

good luck transcript readers :D

Here you go!

3:35 PM

ayy there we go

It's a combo of male and female icons

(I think)

!!/blame᠎ ‌᠎⁠⁠⁠᠎

@Cerbrus It's Shadow The Princess Wizard's fault.

Hah.

lol

3:36 PM

!!/blame᠎ ‌᠎⁠⁠⁠᠎

@MetaAndrewT. It's Shadow The Princess Wizard's fault.

Well, It's not a coincidence...

!!/blame᠎ ‌᠎⁠⁠⁠᠎

@Cerbrus It's Shadow The Princess Wizard's fault.

Is it hard coded or something? Or do we need to start playing the lottery now?

!!/blame᠎ ‌᠎‍‌⁣‍

3:37 PM

@Cerbrus It's Machavity's fault.

:D

lol

@ShadowThePrincessWizard Shouldn't you be called "The Shadow once know as Prince" then?

when I was looking into "green witch mean time" emoji combination, I found that the closest emoji to "witch" was "female wizard" which is a combination of "male wizard" and "female gender modifier" emojis

but what about "witcher" then?

3:53 PM

I hesitate to suggest this, but... There may be times when communication necessitates the use of words.

Communication with words? What is this newfangled fancyness?

some time you want to create an ad absurdum situation with the things you don't like to demonstrate their ridiculousness

it might not be a noble effort but it's in some of us :p

@user1306322 Green witch mean time vs Greenwich mean time

check it out: if you copy it into a text field and hit backspace, it turns into a male wizard: 🧙‍♀️

@user1306322 Nope, it just disappears

Chrome / win 10

It's just one (combined) character

3:56 PM

@Machavity this is exactly the look I was going for but there are no "wizard hat" or "pointy hats" or even "traffic cone" and "orange color modifier" emojis for me to work with

hmm I'm on firefox and I'm also a weird person so who knows lol

Pfff, grandpa Shog and his old-fashioned "words". 🤦

Fun with ZWJ? 🐱‍👓