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Sonic the Anonymous Hedgehog

00:28

@JNat Cross-site spammer: stackexchange.com/users/16723322/dori

Meta Andrew T.

02:19

Morning?

Catija

Morning!

Sonic the Anonymous Hedgehog

02:44

@JNat And another: stackexchange.com/users/16723777/ezeobi-johnson

Meta Andrew T.

04:06

The Insticator ads are getting annoying...

Shadow The Dragon Wizard

The ads are localized

Shree

04:36

Mod treat as RO on chat ?

Catija

Hmmm? Mods have more powers than ROs for all public chat rooms on the server they're a mod.

Meta Andrew T.

@Shree more than RO, but yes. It's chaotic on Chat.SE server

Shree

@MetaAndrewT. Humm thanks. Same user again mess on charcoal-hq. Can you show your RO power on that room.

rene

@SonictheAnonymousHedgehog and gone

@Shree I flagged one message for mod attention /cc @MetaAndrewT.

Shree

Thanks.

Meta Andrew T.

04:49

Done the need, hopefully.

rene

05:17

@MetaAndrewT. thanks and I see you left your rationale for the move as well. Appreciated.

rene

05:49

is there a search operator to search on your accountid? For example user:811 works remarkably well but only because Shog9 managed to have userid 811 across two sites. If you could search on accountid with for example account:620 would be awesome....

Sonic the Anonymous Hedgehog

status-both-gone

rene

thx

Magisch

06:30

morning

Tinkeringbell

07:03

hey.

Meta Andrew T.

@rene wasn't there a recent MSO/MSE post asking for that? Though AFAIK it's not possible

because user:me doesn't return expected result on stackexchange.com search :/

Shadow The Dragon Wizard

@rene coffee?

@rene nope

Quite the same as this:

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Q: How can I view all my unaccepted questions across SE?

I mean to get back them, really I do. So, how can I view all my unaccepted questions across the Stack Exchange network? Searching for user:me hasaccepted:0 works for a single site, but the stackexchange.com search doesn't work the same way (it searches for the text). Is there any way to do this?

Meta Andrew T.

07:22

yeah, the most recent question (30 April) is

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Q: How can I find all my questions (all stackexchange sites)?

I'm active on many stackexchange sites, and I've asked a question recently. I know the topic of the question, but not the exact tile, and more specifically, I forgot on which site I had been asking (it's not always clear which is the correct site to ask). So is there a way to list all my questio...

support questions search

Shadow The Dragon Wizard

Yup

Want to change avatar and maybe name. Ideas, anyone?

(name must start with Sha and contain Wizard at some form)

Magisch

07:45

Shattering Steel Wizard

and have a picture of a 6 link armor from Path of exile as your avatar

Shadow The Dragon Wizard

hmm

@Shat won't be good though... :/

john

I would advice to keep the Shadow. It's more menacing.

Shadow The Dragon Wizard

Well I was Sha Wiz Dow Ard for a while

john

That's menacing.

Mithrandir

Shaman the Meta Wizard

Shards Of The Last Wizard

Shampoo Wizard

Shame On The Wizard

Magisch

07:54

Sha of Mediocrity

as reference to the Sha type enemies in world of warcraft's pandaria expansion

Sha of Dispassionate Ridicule

M.A.R.

@Magisch I'm not even sure he's a medium level threat

Mithrandir

Shahahahaha The Insane Wizard

Magisch

@M.A.R. No the Sha in WoW all represent negative emotions or states, like Sha of Anger, Sha of Violence, Sha of Envy, etc.

Shaogorath, the Mad

M.A.R.

@Magisch He is the Sha of Urination then

Although, hmm, that's a very positive feeling!

Mithrandir

Shaggy The Hairy Wizard

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john

07:59

Shaggy The Hairy Meta Wizard, composing two of Mithra's.

Can be that long?

Meta Andrew T.

Shallow ~~Ocean~~ ~~Sea~~ ~~River~~ ~~Lake~~ Pond Wizard

M.A.R.

Puddle Wizard

fedorqui

08:19

Hello, I've been going through the post What can I do when getting “We are no longer accepting questions/answers from this account”? and found that many of the links point to SO instead of Meta.SE. It is locked so I cannot suggest changes on it

Optimus Prime

08:35

was checking some random questions and I very much wanted the haha reaction button.

Shadow The Dragon Wizard

08:50

@Mithrandir I'm not that hairy! :D

@fedorqui you mean MSO, and why not? 99% (probably more) of the question banned users who read this are banned on Stack Overflow.

Meta Andrew T.

FWIW, the content of the help center is the same, so...

Shadow The Dragon Wizard

10:00

@M.A.R. correct

Feeds

14:46

Our Advertising Principles

Sean Bave on September 19, 2019

Control the types of ads you see. We’ll categorize the different advertising offerings and you’ll be able to select the ones you want to see.

Report specific ads you don’t like and we, together with our ad partners, will make sure you don’t see them again.

Sonic the Anonymous Hedgehog

@Feeds Number 2 was a feature that was present back before 2015 when SE used Adzerk as their ad network; it was lost when they moved (back) to Google

Aibobot

iirc adzerk was just the platform and they ran it themselves

and that's kinda the big difference now

Meta Andrew T.

15:02

Instead of reporting specific ads, I want to share them to you all, because sharing is caring ^^

Aibobot

lol

Meta Andrew T.

Anyway, anyone know about a common display resoultion with 476-pixel wide, instead of 480?

Aibobot

oh maaaaan

nope

Meta Andrew T.

hmm... looks like NTSC vs PAL VS whatever... might need to research more

Aibobot

ok could be TVs?

Meta Andrew T.

15:09

ah, yeah for the context, it should be on TV, not PC

should said video resolution instead of display resolution...

Aibobot

Standard-definition television

Standard-definition television (SDTV or SD) is a television system which uses a resolution that is not considered to be either high or enhanced definition. SDTV and high-definition television (HDTV) are the two categories of display formats for digital television (DTV) transmissions. The two common SDTV signal types are 576i, with 576 interlaced lines of resolution, derived from the European-developed PAL and SECAM systems, and 480i based on the American NTSC system. Common SDTV refresh rates are 25, 29.97 and 30 frames per second. Both systems use a 4:3 aspect ratio. Standards that support...

also looks like no

also see en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pixel_aspect_ratio

Meta Andrew T.

PAL vs. NTSC: PAL usually has 576 visible lines compared with 486 lines with NTSC [...]

probably this...

Aibobot

there's a 427 width listed ....

Meta Andrew T.

no, 10 pixel less, ugh

okay, I give up, thanks for your contribution >_<

Catija

Hmmm

Mgetz

15:18

hmm

Mithrandir

mmmmH?

Mgetz

is chat being worked on because it's giving 500 internal server errors on stackoverflow?

Catija

I only get them when I try to reply to someone.

Mgetz

ditto, weird

Tinkeringbell

Same here.

Mgetz

15:20

I guess that's one way to dodge getting notifications for bugs

Mithrandir

I get "An unknown error has occurred", which is what I usually get when I'm disconnected to the internet...

Catija

Yeah. We're poking at it.

Mithrandir

Oneboxes seem borked too.

Tinkeringbell

Trying to open a user profile too

Mithrandir

56 secs ago, by Catija

Yeah. We're poking at it.

...or at least cross-domain oneboxes.

Meta Andrew T.

15:22

Got HTTP 500 on /user/info path

Mithrandir

Huh, you can reply to a feed though, apparently.

Journeyman Geek

On one hand brokdedness

Catija

Yeah, I noticed that, too.

Journeyman Geek

On the other stuff getting worked on?

Catija

@JourneymanGeek Should be good now. :D @Mithrandir @Tinkeringbell :D

Aibobot

15:26

@JourneymanGeek teeeessssst

Mgetz

@Catija someone smacked the server hard and it's working now ;)

Aibobot

yup.Is worky

@Mgetz forgot to feed the unicorn hamster

Mithrandir

Yep. And cross-database oneboxes seems to be working again.

Aibobot

I hope I don't fall asleep at work again

I had a unplanned 2 hour nap last night

Mgetz

@Aibobot yeah they get hungry

Mithrandir

15:27

Unicorn hamsters sound terrifying.

Meta Andrew T.

I'm an idiot, trying to reach TL by googling...

Catija

@Mgetz Apparently "build doesn't run migrations"...

Mgetz

@Catija Then fix the build so it does... that's not that hard

Aibobot

lol

Shadow The Dragon Wizard

@Mithrandir they're breaking part after part, for years, never to be fixed.

Soon there won't be any oneboxing left. :(

Aibobot

15:31

@ShadowTheDragonWizard or no chat

Shadow The Dragon Wizard

First, Amazon.

Aibobot

and they'll integrate us with slack

Shadow The Dragon Wizard

Then blog.

Aibobot

and we're d000000med

wait, amazon?

Shadow The Dragon Wizard

Surely more have gone without anyone noticing.

Aibobot

15:32

oh yeah

@ShadowTheDragonWizard if no one noticed, no one knows

if a bug manifests itself in a forest and there's no one to see it....

Shadow The Dragon Wizard

Well it's expected to be honest: the code of the onebox target changes, and there's nobody on SE side to make the proper adjustments.

Even if the target belongs to SE too, e.g. blog.

Aibobot

the blog has moved... 3 times?

maybe 4

Mithrandir

@ShadowTheDragonWizard That, or SE intentionally disabled it due to, e.g., mixed content. *shrugs* Dunno.

Aibobot

and been reconfigured a few times,

Shadow The Dragon Wizard

Marc once tried to look into the Amazon onebox bug and after several weeks said it's just not worth fixing.

Catija

15:34

@Mgetz I'm not a dev so... :D

Meta Andrew T.

buggy

Noun: buggy (plural buggies)

A small horse-drawn cart.
A small motor vehicle, such as a dune buggy.
A hearse.
1920's arr: Jimmie Rogers Frankie and Johnnie
Bring out the rubber tired buggy/Bring out the rubber tired hack/I'm takin' my Johnny to the graveyard/But I ain't gonna bring him back

(6 more not shown…)

Adjective: buggy (comparative buggier, superlative buggiest)

Infested with insects
(computing) Containing programming errors
This software is so buggy that I don't know how anyone can use it!
Resembling an insect
Crazy; bughouse

Shadow The Dragon Wizard

lol

Meta Andrew T.

this still works...

Shadow The Dragon Wizard

Wikipedia onebox still look weird sometimes but at least working. :)

oh wait it's not even Wikipedia

Meta Andrew T.

(changed the word because the image on the previous one was a bit... buggy)

Shadow The Dragon Wizard

15:38

lol

BUGGY BOY (AMIGA)

►

Sonic the Anonymous Hedgehog

@MetaAndrewT. Analog TV doesn't have a horizontal resolution

Meta Andrew T.

15:56

I'm already confused though...

Tinkeringbell

@Catija You've reached the voicemail of... Tink! Leave a message after the beep.

Journeyman Geek

Parrot Beeps like a Truck

►

410

The canceled Tor election got un-canceled, with 1 candidate for 2 positions. tor.meta.stackexchange.com/questions/356/…

They don't get two diamonds, however.

Sonic the Anonymous Hedgehog

16:34

30 minutes later, the user has not been granted moderator privileges. Oversight? — gparyani 6 secs ago

410

Could depend on them visiting a page to agree to the mod agreement thing.

Mithrandir

nope

at least IIRC

Sonic the Anonymous Hedgehog

@gparyani: No. It's a little odd timing since we normally do these on a Tuesday. Expect the new diamond in an hour or two. — Jon Ericson ♦ 1 min ago

410

This must be a Thursday, then.

Meta SO no longer tells us to leave social media weapons at the door. Where do we put them now?

Sonic the Anonymous Hedgehog

@410 When was that originally posted?

John Dvorak

16:41

I suggest we put social media weapons ... down.

Meta Andrew T.

Weapons of mass destruction, mentally ...

John Dvorak

Weapons of mass distraction at least

410

16:58

@SonictheAnonymousHedgehog Google Cache

410

18:09

Weapons of Mass Distraction

Weapons of Mass Distraction is a 1997 television film directed by Stephen Surjik and starring Gabriel Byrne, Ben Kingsley and Wooski Hart, Mimi Rogers, Jeffrey Tambor, and other stars in an ensemble cast, about two media moguls and their fight over ownership of a professional American football team. It was written by Larry Gelbart. This film was nominated for four Primetime Emmy awards. == Plot == Lionel Powers and Julian Messenger are filthy rich men with dirty family secrets. They play dirty as well, fighting for control over a professional football team in Los Angeles with every weapon at their...

What a waste of a good title.

410

18:30

@ShadowTheDragonWizard Sham pain for real wizards, real pain for sham wizards.

Over the character limit. :(

Platonic solids for my real friends and real solids for my platonic friends!

Sonic the Anonymous Hedgehog

@Catija Is Code Golf not going to get uniquely-designed error images (404, 500, captcha) as part of its design?

Meta Andrew T.

Same for Anime.SE

Sonic the Anonymous Hedgehog

I filed this bug report asking about why the site-specific error images were themselves 404-ing; in the meantime, the devs seem to have manually forced the pages to load the same images from the folder used for beta and non-designed sites.

Meta Andrew T.

So, possibly for all future new site designs...

Sonic the Anonymous Hedgehog

@MetaAndrewT. Seeing as multiple sites are affected by it (and more are likely to be), I'm going to ask on MSE about it. (Previously I only asked on meta.CodeGolf as I thought it was specific to that.)

@MetaAndrewT. Mind linking me to a relevant meta.Anime post?

Meta Andrew T.

18:48

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A: Congratulations! Your site design is now live!

status-bydesign https://anime.stackexchange.com/404 is still generic. Can we spruce that up, too?

oops, bydesign

Sonic the Anonymous Hedgehog

@MetaAndrewT. Ah, I see it already has an official response. Will rephrase my question to ask "why"

M.A.R.

. . . I'm just gonna sit back amazed at how @Sonic didn't know about that.

He's been the encyclopedia Britannica of metas for quite a while now.

Sonic the Anonymous Hedgehog

@M.A.R. I didn't know because my anime character is non-canon

Makoto

@MetaAndrewT. I'm just patiently going to wait for a response to that one

If it's a recent policy change, cool - I'll roll with that

john

19:04

What do badge medals represent in CS.SE?

Meta Andrew T.

> take up the tree metaphor in that gold badges are root nodes, silver badges inner nodes, and bronze badges are leaves. - Raphael's answer on "Computer Science New Site Design"

M.A.R.

What. Did they copy us.

I should feel angry.

Meta Andrew T.

They they'd us

john

Perfect, thanks!

Sonic the Anonymous Hedgehog

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Q: Why don't newly-designed sites get custom 404, 500, or captcha images anymore?

By "error images" below, I mean the images used on each site for the 404 Not Found page, the 500 server error page, and the captcha page. I'll admit that I'm a bit biased as I strongly believe that each site should have its own, unique set of error images, as they add a certain level of charm to ...

support design images full-sites

@MetaAndrewT.

Kevin B

19:25

because noone ever sees those pages, errors never happen

john

19:39

I often land at 404 pages.

410

20:09

Feature request: embeddable hosted audible sound clips. Finally, a FR that looks likely to be implemented soon.

The clips being embedded in sidebar ads, of course.

I understand being frustrated about a bigger ad unit, but let's be perfectly clear about something: We will never have animated ads or popups or popunders or layovers or anything like that. The day we do that is the day I quit working here, and I don't think I'd be the first or only one to do so. That's not who we are, and it won't be. — hairboat ♦ Jan 8 '16 at 16:11

Checking user profile... still works here.

Kevin B

?

M.A.R.

؟

rene

20:28

@410 I'm confused as they are not trying to start audio so enabling hosted audio would undermine that claim, right?

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Kevin B

Until it happens... no point in being upset over it

410

@KevinB animated ads are a thing already (on TWP and some other sites)

And if I was upset... the overflow into indifference happened long ago.

Kevin B

And what's the stance on them?

@ShadowWizard No, we will continue to maintain our high standards for ads and will not go down that route. We want to do this right and add value across the board. — Juan M ♦ May 21 at 15:49

Personally I'm fine with those ads, they're automagically blocked anyway. I hate all the other ads that can't be auto blocked, like the one in the announcement banner on SO.

410

21:08

> At the end of the day, I want some actionable insights that will improve our cross-platform integration. dilbert.com/strip/2017-04-10

John Dvorak

21:25

Anything can be auto-blocked. Most things can be blocked by a URL filter. Most of what's left can be blocked by a CSS path that's autogenerated for that element by your favorite ad blocker. Most of what's left can be blocked by a CSS path generated by deep understanding of the page structure gained by staring at the DOM for a little too long. The rest of the rest of the rest, just cobble up a oneliner in jQuery and paste it into greasemonkey.

TVTropes uses a randomized CSS class for their anti-adblock banner, so I had to resort to a first-child selector. As for a custom script, it's never got that far.

Kevin B

that's.. not auto

:)

i'm hesitant to go through the trouble of blocking the announcement banner, with the hopes that one day they'd actually use it to announce a new QA feature.

Optimus Prime

21:53

Any idea why? i.sstatic.net/ncxrF.png

Catija

Because it's broken?

@OptimusPrime There's something off about how we cache rep on metas and it's been that way for a couple of years at least. There's a bug report floating around on MSE somewhere. :D

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Q: Meta sites in "Your Communities" display different reputation

While using the top bar to navigate across communities, I noticed that the reputation displayed on meta sites on that list does not match the one of their corresponding main sites: I have noticed on past situations that reputation gained takes a bit to "update" on the display on Meta sites (th...

bug reputation communities-list

410

> There'll be the breaking of the ancient Western code
Your meta rep will suddenly explode

M.A.R.

22:12

Haha, WTH is with the two items in the close vote queue?

Are we building a water slide or something

. . . I'm in

Sonic the Anonymous Hedgehog

23:03

@M.A.R. Basically, I voted to close question C as a duplicate of B, not realizing that A existed and B was a duplicate of it. The best thing I could do next is vote B as a duplicate of A.

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