i.E the principle is a comparison only has 2 side, the comparator and the comparee (?) and either of those can be comparisons if need be, but it never has 3 sides
Nested 3 or more deep? Yeah, those are fun to debug.
BTW I've been browsing the Kaggle Q&A site remembering this is where a PM came from recently. It looks.... inclusive. A lot of Thanks and You're Welcome.
> My team is working on making Stack Overflow's public Q&A a more welcoming and inclusive platform for everyone who codes. Including as a resource for new coders and the teachers/experienced devs who help them. Do you want to talk about this? Send me a DM. -- Megan Risdal 👾 - 10 May 2019 - Twitter
Twitter oneboxing may be broken but my bookmarklet still works. :)
The message a user < 50 rep gets when trying to post a comment is "You must have 50 reputation to comment". Kind of terse compared to even what unregistered users get.
Maybe this could be a place to say something about comments vs answers.
@Tinkeringbell I'm not saying they need to learn everything.
But a lot of our issues could be mitigated if there was at least a small learning period before people just jumped off the diving board into the deep end.
@VoteDukakis Especially when you have an example of another user semi-answering in a comment. That pretty much teaches you what to do when you want to answer: click "add comment". Then you get a very terse error message "go away, you don't have 50 rep".
What I remember from being new... I read a lot of posts. But a site can have a frontpage full of bad questions, but you don't really see it until they're actually closed. (If no one comments, you may see downvotes on stuff that seems totally reasonable and you won't find out why it's bad until it's closed).. so you see a lot of broken windows
@Tinkeringbell No issues with that. Just pointing out that acclimation seems to be optional these days, and then curators get blamed when enforcing those same rules.
@fbueckert Yep, that's a problem. So, is there some kind of list of things they get blamed most for, and that should be in the 30 minute SO masterclass? ;)
Hmm. So A BIG scary red blinking warning that if your question is not deemed worthy enough, it might prevent you from asking others... Yeah, that should lower the participation bar.. :P
@fbueckert 'effort'.. is relative though. You kinda need to be very clear on which way that effort should go
@Tinkeringbell That's the thing, though; effort is vague. I don't know of any way to clarify that without new users attempting to rules lawyer that they did.
For some posts, just having a readable statement can be effort. For others, it needs a specific debugging process and isolating where the problem lies.
There's no one bar that says, "This shows effort."
Even a statement that says, "We have high quality standards here, and we need to see that. Not doing so will result in your post not being well received." or something.
What I've started doing is communicating that expectation in comments with things like, "The more you invest into your own question, the more you'll get out of it."
It's obviously not a gold standard, but I think it does a good job of conveying that doing nothing to help yourself won't get you anything.
a JIT popup "Hey! you're post is is being poorly received! Please <whatever>" when their post starts receiving downvotes. The problem is... what do they need to do to improve it? Who knows, because every question is different. Maybe it doesn't have enough code, maybe it has too much, maybe it's a supedupe that is the first result when copy pasting the error message or the question title. Could be many things.
If only people would reach for close reasons so that a message would pop up stating what's actually wrong
@KevinB The point is... We were talking about communicating expectations up front ;) a close reason is retroactive. And if you're new, you don't even see that a zero scoring question may have three close votes already
@KevinB Then, basically, all you're left with is word of mouth.. people that do know how to use SO explaining it to new people they're teaching programming
like, yeah some people will read it... a few of those might take it as a hint to do a better job of asking their question, but we don't know what problem they're having in asking their question until they ask it
you could write a novel on how to ask a question that has the chance of being well received
@Tinkeringbell Considering that most users invest absolutely nothing, I think a generic, "You have to invest something", will result in something better than what there is.
Reassuring words from the Blog: "We have not identified any breach of customer or user data.". Whew, and we were worried that the person had created an account and went into the review queue as a Moderator. Glad everything is OK.
Update:
At the moment, it is probably not feasible to launch next week due to ongoing security work. I apologize for the delay, but I will update this post when I have a more concrete launch date.
original post:
Site launches are typically approved on a Thursday or Friday, and scheduled for...
One that really hates Operations Research and wants to delay its launch...
Any edit from the Close Queue removes the question from the queue — even if the editor did nothing but add a tag. This is inconsistent with the behavior of the Reopen Queue: for an edit to put a question there, it has to modify the question body.
The edits that touch only the title and/or tags ...
> Handling product support tickets for Community, Talent, and Teams, community management and meta participation, and some internal programming tasks. Plus a whole bunch of other random tasks, of course.
Ah. I can imagine that Teams would take up the bulk of his time.
Rule of thumb, if you need more than a minute to think if something is consistent with the physics of the universe it's set in, then you should drop that.
@Catija Well, I'm kinda a nudgy person when it comes to that. If the film starts off with something ridiculous, then I'd get skeptical till the end and even pick holes where none exist. But considering my skeptical part already being busy with the implications of things shrinking and biggening, and that no other type of ridiculousness was offered, I just dismissed it when I saw that.
@SonictheInclusiveHedgehog Hmm, Europe's economic workaround to cooperate and keep Iran in JCPOA.
It must have looked really bad for me. I mean I triple-checked that the image I was seeing was what I thought it was before posting it again, but never thought to open up inspect element networking tab and see if it was being served through the cache.
@JourneymanGeek A "reduction to time served" would mean that they are still banned from running in an election for the next year, whereas a successful appeal would mean that they aren't