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12:12 AM

Before this gets closed, can someone please share me what reasons this question is shown as being "flagged as" and a screenshot of what's under the "more" button?

forest

1:11 AM

ayyy

I want this many cores.

Just so I can see htop going crazy.

Journeyman Geek

1:43 AM

Oo

John Dvorak

No Distraction Wizard

2:41 AM

Mor... wOaHhHh...

Rob

3:17 AM

@forest It's U$1500.

Sonic the Inclusive Hedgehog

3:29 AM

@Rob To quote a review on that item: "also canceled my gas contract, wont [sic] be needing a heater anymore!"

forest

@Rob Yeah I know. The cores are individually quite slow anyway.

Also 4 hardware threads per physical core.

Rob

4:08 AM

@forest Just get the Lambda Hyperplane with 8x Tesla V100s, or the DGX-2H - @SonictheInclusiveHedgehog you'll need to cancel more than your gas contract, to pay for the electricity:

SYSTEM SPECIFICATIONS
GPUs 16X NVIDIA® Tesla V100
GPU Memory 512GB total
Performance 2.1 petaFLOPS
NVIDIA CUDA® Cores 81920
NVIDIA Tensor Cores 10240
NVSwitches 12
Maximum Power Usage 12kW

Sonic the Inclusive Hedgehog

@Rob The point was, they no longer need a separate heater to heat their house; their computer system will do the job.

Rob

And the point made there is ...

forest

4:24 AM

Sadly CUDA/OpenCL isn't useful for my compute jobs.

(Though that's an impressive amount of processing power)

Journeyman Geek

Also would either of them turn up on htop?

There are 100 core arm processors thought....

forest

Nah not Nvidia cores.

Rob

5:39 AM

@JourneymanGeek The box has 2x 8174s (according to the old manual) but STH asked and it has (OEM} 8189s - so sadly only half the cores (even with hyperthreading enabled).

Rob

6:50 AM

@forest Those 2 CPUs make up a measly U$20K of the U$400K box's price, they're not excessively slow; they clock slightly faster than 3GHz. Good thing it weighs 360 lbs (163 kgs).

Magisch

7:04 AM

400.000 for a pc?

I could buy a house with that

Rob

Where could you buy a house for $400? :)

Magisch

That would be highway Robbery

Rob

@Magisch twistedballoon.com/wp-content/uploads/gallery/artist-gallery/… .

Mithrandir

7:34 AM

@Magisch Please never visit The Sphinx's Lair. Your added punnery will cause a Pun Overflow Exception, and crash Puzzling.SE.

No Distraction Wizard

You punny bard...

Shadow Wizard

9:28 AM

@SonictheInclusiveHedgehog too late, @animuson did it.

What is the bug?

Sonic the Inclusive Hedgehog

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Q: Cannot vote to close a question as a duplicate because it would lead to a circle, except it wouldn't

I'm trying to vote to close this question as a duplicate of this one. The former question had just been asked 20 minutes ago, whereas the latter one was closed as a duplicate back in 2010 and hasn't been edited by a human user since 2011. However, when I try to vote to close the much newer one ...

Shadow Wizard

11:23 AM

@JNat cross site spammer, posting nonsense "answers" just to have links to their profile which contains the actual spam.

Shadow Wizard

11:33 AM

Not spam just.... useless?

Anne Daunted

12:43 PM

What is security through obscurity? Answer: Hiding Information Security.SE behind Meta SE.

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No Distraction Wizard

New New New New Nav is on all sites?

definitely... since I didn't recognize the "Saved Filters" on the right sidebar...

Shadow Wizard

1:00 PM

@NoDistractionWizard no, I see it only on SO.

(opt-in only, disabled by default.)

Maybe when enabled on SO it affects all sites though, didn't check.

No Distraction Wizard

Hmm... weird... anyway, it happened....

Shadow Wizard

I won't waste my time on a feature with a very high chance of never coming to life.

SE can pull the plug down any moment, if they find something more "urgent" to work on.

@NoDistractionWizard might be a bug then. Go go bug report! :D

@AnneDaunted kaboom

ocæon

1:48 PM

so the question filter beta is on SE, MSE, and SO, in an all or nothing way ~ meta.stackexchange.com/questions/313940/…

Stormblessed

Hi

Anyone have 10K on Meta?

Tinkeringbell

I don't, but I can probably help anyway :)

Stormblessed

Oh, I want to see a few deleted posts

Not like secret ones

Just blatantly off-topic ones

To see common keywords between them

Magisch

SEDE. PostsWithDeleted is the table you want

Tinkeringbell

Ah... well, that's not really something that's easily done, I don't think 5 or 10 are going to help there and I really don't have the time to dig up hundreds ;) I think Magisch is right, use SEDE

No Distraction Wizard

1:53 PM

Might be hard since most of them are about programming (question banned on SO)

Magisch

searching for specific posts by keywords is easy

Stormblessed

@Magisch How do you mean?

Magisch

Well, what kind of posts do you want? All posts deleted as blatantly off topic? Possible. All posts deleted as blatantly off topic with certain keywords? Also possible

All posts by users question banned on SO deleted as blatantly off topic? Only the CMs can provide that if at all

Stormblessed

@Magisch all posts deleted as blatantly off-topic, please

I'm no good at SEDE

No Distraction Wizard

On the other hand, I'm curious what do you want to do with those posts ;)

Stormblessed

1:58 PM

@NoDistractionWizard Writing a Meta on a possible detector of them to warn people that their posts seem off-topic and push them away to Stack Overflow

Magisch

`QuestionAsOffTopicCloseReasonId 7` is `Questions about **unicorns** are off-topic because I really hate unicorns. For more information, bite my shiny metal horn.
`

What on earth

Tinkeringbell

@Magisch Someone testing closing something? :P

Journeyman Geek

@Stormblessed if its MSE, there's a rediculous number

No Distraction Wizard

@Magisch too bad, you activated their trap card...

Stormblessed

Can you get banned for mass-retagging? Just wondering

No Distraction Wizard

2:02 PM

manually suspended, yes...

Journeyman Geek

@Stormblessed Well, if its potentially disruptive, sure

Depends on the tag, and what the community thinks about it

No Distraction Wizard

Also depends on the site, especially on the quieter sites

(for edit bumping in general)

Journeyman Geek

Protip. If a new person, let alone a site regular has no idea what's going on with a tag, its bad. Also the person creating the new tag should ~~buy everyone a drink~~ help write the tag wiki.

No Distraction Wizard

(I just realized an internet radio channel is not streaming until now...)

Journeyman Geek

@NoDistractionWizard on any other site - I often also recommend a meta question if its something less than obvious

No Distraction Wizard

2:08 PM

yeah, I guess SE Radio might be a good idea

Journeyman Geek

@NoDistractionWizard we do have a podcast...

Magisch

@Stormblessed I looked into it, you can't filter deleted posts by close reason. Best I can do is all posts that were deleted and closed

Stormblessed

Oh, that would be okay, too

Thanks for trying to help :-)

Journeyman Geek

@Magisch would the quickly close/nuked ones turn up?

MSE does have a short halflife on a lot of them

Magisch

@JourneymanGeek yes they do, but the Body is blank

meaning you're stuck with dates and id's, unless you have 10k to click through & view

Journeyman Geek

2:14 PM

ya

Depending on what you want the data for, can be less useful sometimes

No Distraction Wizard

Well, if someone could build a general Ask a Site Wizard covering all 175+ SE sites, then... it'd be good...

Journeyman Geek

Well or a platform for it, and maybe get folks to work out what it needs

No Distraction Wizard

Soemthing like Akinator, but for SE sites

"Hmm, I think I know what site you're ~~thinking~~ finding"

Journeyman Geek

"Are you question banned on SO?"

Magisch

@JourneymanGeek "Can I interest you in ~~this trash can~~ quora?"

Journeyman Geek

2:23 PM

@Magisch or suggest searching for the problem

which is amazingly useful

No Distraction Wizard

with LMGTFY

Journeyman Geek

well no

I suppose if you're going to write a wizard, a 'fun' problem would be how you could structure searching

No Distraction Wizard

umm, start with stackexchange.com/search?q=example ?

Journeyman Geek

(granted , whatever they use to suggest similar questions works better than search but shhhhh)

Journeyman Geek

2:48 PM

also as for lost folks here

while its probably a little annoying, it seems to be a problem under control

No Distraction Wizard

3:14 PM

Anyway... I just realized there's no timeline page that shows all activities on a questions and all of its answers in the same page?

Been trying to following this meta post periodaically. While it's easy to notice post modification (based on last active date), noticing if there are new comments is harder...

Given that you are a @ConspicuousCompiler I expected you to have a -pedantic flag. — Braiam 16 hours ago

ocæon

3:33 PM

@NoDistractionWizard have you tried a browser extension like firefox's check4change? that one even has adjustable sensitivity.

No Distraction Wizard

Hmm, interesting extension and idea, might use it... :)

ocæon

oh wait , since ff addon revamp it requires the tab to stay open, but still, it's another avenue

Vote Dukakis

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Q: Are you here because of a hormone-rush?

Already five years ago it was observed that one of the main functions of MSE is to be a place for students to get other people to do their homework for them I would love to do the statistics if only I had the time, but I would dare to suspect that nowadays more than 90 percent of the ques...

discussion

Well, I am alive because of various hormones and whatnot doing their business (with special thanks to insulin), so...

Rob

@NoDistractionWizard That idea wasn't well thought out (it seems to me, and a few others) and now Cat says they're not going back to the drawing board, they're stuck with it. Following it is just rubbernecking.

No Distraction Wizard

Oh, I'm just a persistent lurker. ~~And I love drama~~

Vote Dukakis

3:47 PM

I always want to click the small-size icon of A&M to dismiss the item, but it never works...

The author of the MO meta post appears to be ranting about MathSE, but can't do it there, being suspended.

FR: allow suspended users to post on meta. Just don't show those posts to anyone else.

It's a form of therapy.

Journeyman Geek

I keep assuming MSE is MSE and getting confused

Mithrandir

MSE being MSE? A ridiculous notion.

ocæon

4:04 PM

meta meta question; what's with the recent increase in uptick of users asking about an increase of blatantly off topic meta posts on metas?

(that was a joke, but i think i just scared journyman off, oops)

No Distraction Wizard

At least not Ask a Question Wizard... not yet...

Vote Dukakis

Learned behavior. See also: tag burnination requests on metaSO

ocæon

but some burnination requests have such ingenious puns in the titles!

Dukeling

4:47 PM

Am I correct in saying Code Review is a bit different from other sites (in terms of focusing more on helping the asker instead of trying to help anyone with a similar question as well) and is the reasoning for this somewhere linkable?

John Dvorak

If so, then PPCG is also a "bit different"

Mgetz

so it looks like chrome 75 gets much more aggressive with tab discards

John Dvorak

So it looks like I'll get much more aggressive with Chrome discards.

Mgetz

yeah but you can't tell users "Just use firefox"

their response will be "I'll just not use your site"

No Distraction Wizard

Just use IE?

Mgetz

5:00 PM

/facepalm

Dukeling

I explore the internet with Chrome, so my Internet Explorer is Chrome.

John Dvorak

IE isn't a web browser. It's a glorified HTML parser.

ocæon

just use wget

Dukeling

@JohnDvorak Either way, the goal doesn't seem to be to build any sort of repository of searchable questions, unlike on Stack Overflow, for example.

John Dvorak

True that it doesn't seem that way.

No Distraction Wizard

5:04 PM

I almost responded with Puzzling since that site doesn't trying to help anyone with a similar question, but instead giving new problems to their users...

Mgetz

so it looks like it's a chrome bug, I tested with google music and it stops playing after about five minutes in the background

so it looks like it's being super aggressive

Rob

At least Puzzling is up front about its intent.

Vote Dukakis

@ocæon Better yet, use curl. Because now we know why it's free, which is supremely important.

Why wget is free is still a mystery.

ocæon

5:21 PM

@VoteDukakis lols

fbueckert

5:53 PM

Counterpoint: Arqade is about gaming, and we are trying to build a repository of knowledge.

No Distraction Wizard

If only all SE users had that mindset of "building a repository of knowledge"...

fbueckert

And we get a lot of arguments about, "We play games!! Why are you being so serious, man!?"

Vote Dukakis

It's all because of the hormones.

Yes, I am here for the hormone rush (and some useful knowledge, but that is rare). Any problem with that? — schematic_boi 48 mins ago

I didn't expect that post to be above 0 score...

No Distraction Wizard

(and 3 out of 4 commenters have less than 102 reps on MO...)

Vote Dukakis

I can't tell if the author is serious here...

I've heard that fungus as a class generally express less concern about being chopped up and eaten than plants. That said, there are some select few mushrooms and plants that are exceptions to that general lack of apparent concern. But that's just something I've heard, I have no references. — Ed Grimm Feb 21 at 3:37

... or just subtly referencing xkcd.

Evolutionarily speaking, mushrooms are technically a type of ghost.

What if they want to express concern but are unable to? As in "I have no mouth & I must scream"

Rob

6:02 PM

@NoDistractionWizard ReWordify is the solution to what ails them.

No Distraction Wizard

I just tried with its own description and returned 5 changed words. Looks like the site is not good at demonstrating it... (or isn't it?)

ocæon

@VoteDukakis much like plants communicating by chemical gasses, and humans use pheromones (though im not sure they're very effective anymore), i would assume that mushrooms are quite capable of emitting something. the worry would be that nothing hears them,

Margarine

@ocæon They're very effective if you don't take a shower for a few days

Vote Dukakis

> Based on your (reactions or responses to something/helpful returned information), we decided to rethink the whole UI, removing some confusing and (having more than one for safety or backup purposes) parts/pieces, and bringing back some much loved pieces.

This doesn't look like what I expected rewording to be.

ocæon

oh .. it's for reducing the vocabulary .. then it reintroduces the original words one by one with explanations and text-to-speech

it's a thing-explainerifier!

Rob

6:16 PM

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John Dvorak

@VoteDukakis I have a mouth, and I must scream, but if I scream, people try to lock me up

Margarine

@JohnDvorak You can pretend you're screaming at a screen. No one would lock you up for that

In fact, abnormal would be if you look at a screen and don't shout or exhale

John Dvorak

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Vote Dukakis

6:32 PM

@Feeds FR: post a link to original on top of such posts, so that readers can go to nicely formatted, syntax-highlighted original without suffering the SO.blog version.

Rob

6:47 PM

There's always punch the monitor.

Dukeling

7:18 PM

Actually the tour pages seem to cover it: Stack Overflow says "build a library" while Code Review does not (although Code Golf also does...).