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Rob
2:14 AM
That video is only 0.0001% as good as this one:
One better point is the lack of singing.
 
3:05 AM
Lasagna Lazy morning...
 
3:16 AM
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Q: Should there be a Finnish Education Stack Exchange?

TimothyI think there is a Mathematics Educators Stack Exchange but there is no Education Stack Exchange. Since an Education Stack Exchange doesn't already exist, it may be worth specifically making a Finnish Education Stack Exchange rather than an Education Stack Exchange. I read on the internet that Fi...

 
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miscellaneous

Proposed Q&A site for science which is not present in books but in minds, for discussing and asking thoughts that arise in mind

Currently in definition.

😒
 
 
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6:53 AM
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7:49 AM
Slow Monday?
 
2nd Easter day here and it is a bank holiday in the UK
 
Ah, extended holiday, didn't consider that culturally...
 
I'm pretty sure this is a regression: meta.stackoverflow.com/q/383118/578411 but I can't find the original bug report. All I seemed to remember that I wanted to blame @aaronshekey but I can't find any answer where he claimed he fixed it. I do recall that the div was moved around but that seem to have been un-done.
Someone else needs to step forward to take the blame, sorry Aaron, I'll remove you from my blame list...
 
^ true... I remember it has been reported before, but I haven't searched on MSE...
 
I did but google and cookie are not great denominators
 
7:57 AM
I tried 'search engine cookie' but also a failure
 
Yes, that is because the SE search engine is a failure ;)
maybe we should use Bing to search for Google quirks ....
 
random unrelated life experience: since I learned about 'caveats', my mind is now too aware everytime I read that word ...
 
I use DuckDuckGo for exactly one purpose: to get by on that one WiFi that blocks Google for some incomprehensible reason.
 
we are decent bloggers
 
8:12 AM
a request for 25k-er on MSE: what is the highest referral from internal SE site? physics.se?
 
Movies.se
 
hmm, maybe MSE is a little bit different, but I probably need more data from other SE sites....
 
That is on third place. First is mse itself, second se.com
 
since Physics.SE is the highest on both Android.SE and Anime.SE
 
Physicists are the most avid anime watchers?
Concerning the physics in anime, I'm a bit surprised. Or maybe
 
8:16 AM
@GetAnswerWizard movies.se => 2805, physics.se => 935 visits
 
8:38 AM
Meta refers to meta. Seems self referencially meta...
 
Well, good to know(?) the top are from SE, not external sites...
which is the next curiosity question: highest non-SE site?
 
2805 for both movies.se and superuser ... that is a strange coincidence
@GetAnswerWizard toster.ru ... (935)
 
@rene I also noticed that on Android.SE with both SE.com and Physics.SE having the same count...
 
We can't trust those numbers, we need better tools!
 
while the second highest is... a spam site iOS data recovery (congrats, analytic spam...)
 
9:03 AM
Gah, meta fatigue!
 
@GetAnswerWizard Well, world news isn't any more enlightening either this week.
You should grab a bicycle and go on a neighborhood tour
 
@M.A.R.TheChemicalWizard Thru...
 
@Catija huh? Trolling on Area 51? OP appears to be valid user on other sites, hopefully Robert will suspend him on Area 51.
Wait, you can too... no?
 
@Catija You seem not to be a fan of REAL science.
 
Also, I bet this account is a sock of the one who proposed that "site", and more reason to suspend that person.
 
9:09 AM
REAL science, on REAL SE!
 
No it's Bill Nye
 
heh ignore ^
heh ignore ^^
 
√-1 wrong user
 
heh ignore ^^^
 
Still, that proposal is so pointless it's iritating
@GetAnswerWizard nah wrong eyes.
 
9:11 AM
I want a misc proposal so I can dump my thoughts there
 
please try Dump.SE
 
@M.A.R.TheChemicalWizard ask @Kevin, he got perfect emoji for the place where you dump stuff. :P
@GetAnswerWizard too brown, we need @jad
 
Oh yes I noticed. This chat has been shitty the past few days . . .
 
No it's not the chat, it's you
:D
 
Keto Buzz Dragon's Den khkhkh
 
9:13 AM
SD POOF
 
Why are y'all shouting at our bot?
 
ˢᵈ ᵏ
 
@GetAnswerWizard It's OK, it won't bite
!!/bite
 
@M.A.R.TheChemicalWizard No such command 'bite'.
 
See
Why are they suddenly interested in hermeneutics, BTW?
 
9:32 AM
@GetAnswerWizard you know it didn't "work"? ;)
Anyway... Yummy!
/cc @Mithrandir ^
You eat such things too?
 
9:45 AM
@JNat sorry, no cross site spammers yet.... but there is a cross site coffee! :D
!!/coffee
?
!!/alive?
 
@ShadowWizard brews a cup of Macchiato for @ShadowWizard
 
oh, just the usual lag...
 
@ShadowWizard Watching this endless list of new questions never gets boring
 
6-8 hours later...
 
I'm board...
 
10:11 AM
What is a "self-deprecating terminology"? — user202729 10 mins ago
There is a PHP joke in there ...
 
the user ID seems very very familiar...
 
Is it your phone number?
 
No, it is my password...
 
You had to try it first, right?
 
Yes, I tried on many Apple developer sites...
 
10:31 AM
@ShadowWizard of course
 
@Mithrandir good! And the fish?
 
10:51 AM
@ShadowWizard too late
 
@rene :(
3 reports, 1 post
Ice cream?
@Sonic I saw you edit, where did you see the part about user having many votes vs. user having high reputation? Did you see it mentioned officially, or is it only your guess/feeling?
 
@ShadowWizard Shog's 2015 answer says so; the part about rep can be traced back to an older post whereas Shog's 2015 post says it was changed
 
What answer?
No idea why there was even comment discussion there ^
 
11:15 AM
@ShadowWizard This one
 
@SonictheWizardWerehog thanks
 
@ShadowWizard Also, after some research, I found that the original words about it applying to "high-reputation users" can be traced back to this edit, and then that answer was later copied into help pages. But according to the edit summary, it was just speculation.
 
@SonictheWizardWerehog Speculation? The user who wrote it was SE developer back then, with full access to the code.
So it's weird.
Unless it was actually changed from checking rep to checking votes in the code behind the scenes.
 
@ShadowWizard No, they weren't an employee (let alone a mod) at that time, per Normal Human's SO mod timeline.
 
Wait.. I think he was dev back then.
@SonictheWizardWerehog uh... nice.
 
11:21 AM
They were hired in 2016, according to that timeline.
 
AFAIK, the delay was due to vote invalidation, not because of high rep.
(I don't know what are you talking about)
 
Whether the hold-up for vote invalidation when a user requests account deletion is triggered based on number of votes or the user's reputation.
 
Well usually it goes together.
User with low rep but lots of votes is a rare thing.
I see the spam auto flag is back?
(Spam nuked on MSE in 20 seconds)
 
As of a while ago, yes.
 
yeah, Nick purged the bans
 
12:06 PM
Nick the Purger
 
12:27 PM
@GetAnswerWizard New username time!
 
1:06 PM
Community auto bumping should be either stopped or adjusted.
For example: three bumps you're out (the post gets deleted if three bumps resulted in no votes).
It's harmful to keep resurfacing stuff that nobody cares about.
^ from User Experience I took a look after seeing this post
 
@VoteDukakis Wasn't there a recent change to not bump anything if there are already [x] number of bumped posts on the homepage?
 
Apparently it isn't working well enough to avoid the above screenshot.
 
the no one cares about though....
arn't posts supposed to be useful for the long run? So in theory posts shouldn't go stale
and sometimes there's new, useful answers years later
 
In theory vs in practice.
 
@VoteDukakis Oh, wait, that's enabled on a per-site basis only, and IIRC it's only enabled on Japanese SO. Maybe you should make an FR there asking for it to be enabled there?
 
1:09 PM
The practice is someone posting a screenshot of their UI draft and asking "plz suggest to make better"
 
erf.
Ya, that's a thing. But that's probably as much a issue with community norms, as much as mechanics
 
Anyway, if the Community stopped its bumping, the posts would be just as useful as they are now.
 
AFAIR, the latest update was to not bump the same question before 90/120 days...
 
But meanwhile, the front page of the site would have something new to look at.
 
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A: Was there a change to the Community Bot that stops it from bumping questions?

Shog9Good eye! This changed on around January 8th I've added a change here so that the community user can't rebump a question unless the original bump is more than 90 days in the past. The problem here was caused back in 2011 when the bumps were weighted a little more towards questions that h...

If the front page of the site is getting filled with bumped questions from Community, they don't have much new stuff to look at. The bot only bumps one post per hour.
 
1:14 PM
Why not enable the Japanese SO feature to make it not bump posts if there are already a certain number of bumped posts on the home page?
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Because, to find the balance is hard? For a very slow site, then it's essentially a dead site (well, maybe it's already a dead site)
 
1 post per hour = 24 posts per day.
A lot of sites get 5-10 new questions per day, or less.
So the most recent 50 questions could be something from the last 10 days, which beats "from 6-8 years ago".
 
(X x total score + Y x views) / Z x age = probability to be community bumped?
 
@VoteDukakis But that page isn't new questions only. It's new and edited and answered. If the site has zero activity for ten hours other than Community, I've kinda got to wonder if the site's community exists.
Also, worth noting with the holiday weekend, this was likely exacerbated. This may be a non-issue on a normal basis.
 
Hmm... looks like a formula for Hot Unanswered Questions list
 
1:24 PM
I think UX has a very depressed voting culture, though... I mean, four answers and not a single post has a vote: ux.stackexchange.com/questions/104377/… ? That's... :/
 
@Catija The top answer is +145/-145
Jokes aside, three of them being 1-rep probably had something to do with it. (One of them having been suspended since)
Whoa wait, not suspended
 
I thought you have a clairvoyage skill, or a magic black ball
 
I do have those, why?
ux.stackexchange.com/posts/104377/timeline I guess 20 bumps ~ 4 answers. Not bad
 
1:47 PM
@Vote omg... is Dukakis still alive?!
It's a blast from the past... lol
So tempting to edit this.... but I resist the urge....
:D
 
please do it to increase the opening job for reopen reviewer...
 
Nah, surely Peter will do it if it'll survive long enough. ;)
@Get how come you didn't rename yet?
 
I don't like politic :/
even if it's a blast on the paws
 
hmm...
He's ancient by now, hardly got anything to do with politics
@Get new name suggestion: Dukakis and the Tank
Avatar:
;)
@Duk is also kind of cool to ping
 
1:56 PM
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yeah, @Dukeling
 
oh lol
 
@GetAnswerWizard Cthulhu for President
Why choose the lesser evil...
 
 
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3:30 PM
If this is correct, am I correct to challenge this edit on an answer of mine. The editor nor I are 100% sure about that @-reply feature.
 
3:41 PM
@rene hmm? What is correct? You linked to a very long faq answer. TL;DR?
oh this?
> Ping the dupevoter in the comment section so that the question can be reopened.
Well afaik, only mod or gold hammers can be pinged as close voters
(as their vote is binding)
 
3:55 PM
Would the first person who dupe voted be pingable since they had a comment on the post previously?
or do they become unpingable once the comment is deleted
 
darn, I forgot the imgur's resizing is already fixed
 
@ShadowWizard yeah, that is what I think as well.
 
Is there a meta post on the tooltip containing the date a post was closed?
 
@Olivia plenty. I assume that is about what today, yesterday and tomorrow mean in the context of an SE site?
 
No
Consider this (first one I can find, but it can be repro'd with any post if you're not in +0 GMT): the tooltip says it was closed on the 20th of April at 15:54:50
But that's in GMT and not (in my case) +2 GMT. Really threw me off that it wasn't specified. Are there meta posts on that?
 
4:05 PM
it's 15:54:50Z, where Z = Zulu (UTC+0)
 
oh
whoops ^^"
 
@ShadowWizard made an edit to include that, thanks.
 
4:31 PM
@rene They can only be @-replied to if they were the only one involved in the closure; if other users also voted to close, they can't be @-replied to.
 
Okay. Thanks. I edited that in
 
5:28 PM
 
5:38 PM
I'm looking forward to this batch
 
6:14 PM
Ah, yes. Veiled threats against peaceful opposition, the last resort of an illegitimate regime that would make Caracas and Pyongyang proud. Where's the international sanctions and condemnation? — user1258361 8 mins ago
Interestingly, this is not from Politics.SE
 
Or MSE...
Past few days have been interesting
 
6:35 PM
@ShadowWizard The 1988 election was the first U.S. election I paid attention too (or was aware of). But the name change is in reference to a classic Easter movie.
 
I.... probably wouldn't find that reference...
 
ChrisF added 6th diamond to his collection.
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Q: 2019 Community Moderator Election Results

Jon EricsonCommunity Building's first moderator election has come to a close, the votes have been tallied and the new moderator is: They'll be joining the existing crew shortly—please thank them for volunteering, and share your assistance and advice with them as they learn the ropes! [Um. Maybe the temp...

Not that there were any votes to tally.
 
6:51 PM
lol
 
@VoteDukakis Great... I got distracted by this user's history...
 
> I know how the system is supposed to work and how it actually works (these things might not always be the same thing)
 
> Supervillain claims to have installed a detonation device into everyone's skulls. What happens next will blow your minds!
 
@NoDistractionWizard Another way to read the whiteboard: find a better picture of it.
Source: the photo gallery at themuse.com/profiles/stackoverflow
 
Looks like Tag Food Watching feature?
 
7:10 PM
@VoteDukakis Man, that's SOME high-quality rant.
 
 
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8:12 PM
A Blender user is undertaking a thankless task of explaining others' questions in details.
So far, succeeded in explaining 1 question in 4 attempts.
 
8:27 PM
@SonictheWizardWerehog That sounds like a choice from a Choose Your Own Adventure book.
 

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