Tavern on the Meta

5:01 PM

Might be a very expensive one, but yeah

As Tinkeringbell notes, there's also just the problem of getting a higher response rate than expected - if you normally get 10% of folks responding but certain locations go a lot higher, than you're gonna get more responses than you bargained for.

You can turn the survey off once you've passed your goal, but maybe not fast enough

on the bright side, at least we weren't giving away televisions for posting Q&A...

user302202

5:21 PM

@Shog9 You win 2x by total length of posts, though. data.stackexchange.com/meta.stackexchange/query/980092/…

Shog9

I do like to ramble on

7

user302202

with no reviews so far, eg tor.stackexchange.com/review/suggested-edits/17055

user302202

Maybe the suggestion is pointless because it's perfectly understandable in current form

user302202

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Shog9

they typo'd "enema"

user302202

5:48 PM

Rarely mentioned among competitors is answers.com site, which also has a Computer Programming section

user302202

> Q: Protocols other than http and HTML?
A To clarify, HTML is not actually a protocol ....
Q: Can you fix vbnet code?
A: yes, but need to check more details about that.

user302202

But, no downvotes or closevotes

user302202

> Q: What Program that will display the even numbers in data structures and algorithms?
A: JAVA

user302202

7:11 PM

\o/ Tor suggested edits got reviewed tor.stackexchange.com/review/suggested-edits/stats

user302202

A new paper, Gender differences in participation and reward on Stack Overflow published in Empirical Software Engineering, open access.

Tinkeringbell

> We conclude with a hypothetical redesign of the site’s scoring system based on these behavioral differences, cutting the reputation gap in half.

Do I want to know?

user302202

New_reputation = 0.5*old_reputation

user302202

There you have it, the gap is cut in half.

Tinkeringbell

I'm somehow thinking that's too nice and clean for a scientist to come up with ;)

user302202

7:17 PM

Even cleaner: new_reputation = 42. The gap is gone!

Tinkeringbell

I think I might peruse that article closer once I am really, really, really bored. For now, I'm feeling that it's leaning heavily towards overrating imaginary internet points and thus making a problem where there is none.

ArtOfCode

@Tinkeringbell this is either pseudoscience or parody

probably

user302202

They misspell "harassment" in the first paragraph, but there are no suggested edits on Springer site...

Tinkeringbell

@ArtOfCode Time to look at the data and methods section! :D

computer generated gender inference. Okay, I'm not taking this really serious anymore :)

ArtOfCode

Pseudoscience then

user302202

7:27 PM

> We use the Stack Overflow API to collect information on all users with at least 100 reputation points, as these users can be considered active on the website

user302202

Well if you ignore the association bonus

user302202

> GenderComputer considers a variety of string manipulations (for example reversing “Nohj” to get “John”)

user302202

Would that succeed in deciphering Shog9, I wonder.

user302202

Apparently there are unfortunate people whose name, although pronounced "Josh", begins with a G.

user302202

At least according to the film Homeless (2015)

user302202

7:35 PM

> Android, a programming language for mobile phone applications, has more women.

user302202

Anyway, the hypothetical redesign is returning to +10 for question upvotes.

Sonic the Introverted Hedgehog

cv-pls meta.stackexchange.com/questions/323741/…

MEE is Johann Gambolputty ...

@SonictheIntrovertedHedgehog what was your activity on this question? Did you edit the deleted answer from iBug?

Sonic the Introverted Hedgehog

cv-pls meta.stackexchange.com/questions/323742/…

@MEEisJohannGambolputty... Yes, they had self-vandalized their answer; I rolled it back.

MEE is Johann Gambolputty ...

@SonictheIntrovertedHedgehog good to know. If I hadn't known that they had answered, I would have been confused to see "last activity: today" and no recent activity...

user302202

8:10 PM

2

Q: Singing the song of angry men

Nigh three weeks ago, we made official our request to exit beta. During this time, efforts have been made to keep attention on the request: @ChrisSunami offered a bounty on the question in order for it to gain more attention, and I have been making edits to it in order to keep it on the first pa...

Mithrandir

Heh!

Are they going to go through the whole song?

user302202

I thought it was pretty clear that "graduation" process is on hold, with no sites graduated since 2017-10-09.

user302202

Songs or no songs

Tinkeringbell

@Mrs.Robinson Well, this is the first time I heard about that.

user302202

It's an observation, there were no official statements to that effect.

rene

8:15 PM

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rene

8:27 PM

Not sure who is on-call but it looks like something is broken in the A51 sign-up/log-in flow: meta.stackexchange.com/q/323745/158100

Catija

@Mrs.Robinson There weren't any sites that qualified to graduate in that time.

user302202

Hinduism was over 10Q/day for a while, at 19.1 currently.

user302202

Their meta situation is complicated, of course.

user302202

But it's something that an election might change... for better or worse.

Catija

@Mrs.Robinson They were, and then it dropped down to 6. It's not stable. If it's up higher now, we can revisit it but, as Robert said in the MSE answer to this, we're redoing the whole system to trash the idea of graduation entirely.

user302202

8:32 PM

Hence, "on hold"

Glorfindel

10:30 PM

Apologies for the disturbance on the homepage, my bot went rogue after a massive refactoring.

Catija

Wheeeeee! :P

Asuna

wait, edit bots are allowed? o-o

user302202

I felt a great disturbance on the homepage, as if millions of posts suddenly cried out in terror and were suddenly edited.

user302202

Hm, does the sentence really have two "suddenly"? Seems like one too many.

user302202

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Q: Are edits performed by external, non-SE robots allowed?

During my reviewing of Suggested Edits, I have encountered several of them attempted by user @Glorfindel. Upon closer examination, all were performed by a robot written by him and all consisted of replacing inlined "http://" images (which are no longer displayed, being considered insecure) with "...

discussion editing stackexchange suggested-edits

Asuna

10:40 PM

Ooh, that's interesting

Mithrandir

@Glorfindel there are worse things that could happen

Rob

10:55 PM

@Tinkeringbell Agreed, they say: "Inferring gender of individuals from their online profiles is a complex problem." - that's a problem that they have not solved. The whole study seems based on a faulty premise. My assertion, I suggest, is supported by their statement: "In contrast to a 2012 study of men and women on Stack Overflow (Vasilescu et al. 2012), which found that men are more active on the site across all measures, we find that women are more likely to ask questions. There are several

possible explanations for this finding, for instance that the patterns of behavior on the site have changed, or because of differences in our approach to gender inference ...".

There certainly are portions of the study that seem reasonable but some of the approaches are odd (polite) and seem to skew the outcome.

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Offensive answer detected, potentially bad keyword in answer, toxic answer detected (161): Can an equilateral triangle be an isosceles triangle, too? by James on math.SE

Rob

- The elevator summary is: They figured out how to infer gender (with many fallacies to the approach) and because women ask more questions, and men answer more questions - with the scoring 5 rep for questions and 10 rep for answers - thus men have a higher reputation than women overall.

Not a sound study.

His bot was showering and a drop of water ...

Journeyman Geek

11:42 PM

@Glorfindel eep

Rob

@Mrs.Robinson I think the quote is: "Mr. Spock: Doctor, even I, a half-Vulcan, could hear the death scream of four hundred Vulcan minds crying out over the distance between us."

Journeyman Geek

@Mrs.Robinson eh. Hinduism is tricky. The subject matter can be highly obscure, and the politics pretty messy

I actually feel it's the hardest mod job on the network

user302202

Which might be made easier by the fact of being an elected mod.

user302202

I still haven't gotten around to watching the Original Series...

Journeyman Geek

@Mrs.Robinson not really.

SmokeDetector

11:52 PM

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Link at end of answer (60): How does 'bloom' work? by manyjays on gaming.SE

user302202

... purchased at a Black Friday sale... and it was the 2017 Black Friday.

user302202

Maybe the site needs more eloquent meta posts...

user302202

81

Q: Brothers, we are not Christians‼

I am a Christian. You say you are. But we are not.1 It seems that a lot of folks are having a hard time wrapping their heads around the scope of this site. While I respect the SE staff2 and have been impressed with the effort they have taken (and judgement they have shown) in nurturing this site...

discussion faq site-definition site-branding sensitive-topics

user302202

... would be better with one exclamation point

Journeyman Geek

@Mrs.Robinson someone posted an identical post.....

SmokeDetector

11:57 PM

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Potentially bad keyword in body (1): Combining sketches ✏️ by Mayada Yusuf on arduino.SE

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