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@Somewhat Ohhh.. let me do some really generous interpreting and say that you should start looking for another job as you're clearly done with this one! :P

Somewhat

I'm actually thinking about that... :p

Journeyman Geek

Your fengshui sucks. You need to improve the energy of your room by sticking a pile of rocks where your boss's seat is.

Tinkeringbell

8:03 AM

@Somewhat See. Your subconscious knows too :P

(That was creepy though. I might turn it into a career!)

Journeyman Geek

"I SEE SOME! AND I KNOW AS MUCH AS JON SNOW!"

Tinkeringbell

I for now predict at least two more cups of coffee in my near future

Journeyman Geek

funny thing is I was dreaming I was having trouble flashing my old phone...

which actually happenned. Need to try doing it over ADB over the weekend ;p

Tinkeringbell

My dreams are a lot more confusing and boring.

What does it mean when the moon crashes into your backyard?

Mithrandir

I didn't dream anything.... I was in misery last night :(

Journeyman Geek

8:06 AM

THAT'S NO MOOOOON!

@Mithrandir :(

Mithrandir

@Tinkeringbell That the moon is apparently a lot smaller than we thought.

Tinkeringbell

@Mithrandir Sure, but what made me dream about moons falling into backyards?

I mean, I can understand the dreams where I'm fighting and hitting everyone I encounter... those just mean I had a bad day and want to vent :P

Journeyman Geek

@Mithrandir or @Tinkeringbell has a very large dream backyard

@Tinkeringbell I have vidya games for that

Mithrandir

@JourneymanGeek that hardly qualifies as a "backyard" then :P

Tinkeringbell

@JourneymanGeek I'll stick with dreams. At least I can wake up when I'm realizing I'm being stupid :P

Derpy

8:09 AM

@Tinkeringbell too much Zelda

Tinkeringbell

@Derpy I've had that one a few times though, since childhood. And I don't really play Zelda, it's too difficult.

Derpy

@Tinkeringbell then I guess the answer is even simpler. You are mad

but don't worry.

we are all mad here.

Tinkeringbell

I can well imagine that. Maybe we can use that madness to cheer Mith up a little?

Mithrandir

Unfortunately, stuffed up noses cause headaches, and my family has a tendency to get really bad migraines. I don't usually get them that bad :(

Journeyman Geek

ah those

you have my empathy

Shadow Wizard

8:19 AM

@Tinkeringbell Zelda difficult?? How? Puzzles or battles?

Tinkeringbell

@ShadowWizard I can't walk straight in that game, and the one I tried kinda required that to be able to sneak past some monsters/guards

Shadow Wizard

Usually I don't like puzzles in such games, so far I quit only one due to really hard and silly puzzles though.

Somewhat

you might be interested in Metal Gear Solid

Shadow Wizard

@Tinkeringbell what Zelda game? There are many....

Tinkeringbell

@ShadowWizard Ehh.. Have to ask a brother, it was his ;)

Shadow Wizard

8:22 AM

ohhh

The one working in the zoo? ;)

Journeyman Geek

@Tinkeringbell hah, I love the sneaky ones ;)

Shadow Wizard

I don't, but as long as it's only small part of the game I don't really mind.

Tinkeringbell

@ShadowWizard Yep :)

I started Stardew Valley recently. My brother recommended that one too, and so far I like it.

It's the first game I can decently play using wasd keys to walk around and a mouse to do clicking at the same time.

Journeyman Geek

(been playing the watchdogs DLC and there's bits where you need to sneak around and knock out people without being seen)

Shadow Wizard

@Tinkeringbell I forgot how it's like to play with PC... been playing only on PS for several years now. One controller!

SmokeDetector

8:41 AM

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Tinkeringbell

@ShadowWizard I have a Wii controller on my PC, but somehow I'm not made to do stuff that requires a lot of movement :P

Shadow Wizard

hehe, all good. We still love you! :D

Tinkeringbell

8:56 AM

@ShadowWizard You'd better! It's world animal day after all.

Shadow Wizard

I'm one of the few here who isn't an animal!

hiding

Journeyman Geek

YOU ANIMAL

Tinkeringbell

@ShadowWizard Awww. I'm sure there's a day to celebrate your existence too ;)

Derpy

@Tinkeringbell sneak. Ok. Two possibilities there.

A) Ocarina of Time. You have to get past some guards near the beginning of the game to get to Zelda.

b) Wind Waker. the first "dungeon" is basically an "avoid the monsters" mission since you lose your sword as soon as you get launched to the enemy castle.

The odd part is the "can't walk straight" one

Was it an emulator?

Ocarina was basically unwinable on the first N64 emulators because the controller lacked the required sensibility at some points.

Shadow Wizard

@Derpy Wii controller adjusted to Windows, think I used something like that long ago, didn't like it.

16 mins ago, by Tinkeringbell

@ShadowWizard I have a Wii controller on my PC, but somehow I'm not made to do stuff that requires a lot of movement :P

Bart

9:17 AM

@Tinkeringbell so no Overwatch for you?

Somewhat

9:38 AM

... or Realm of the Mad God ._.

Bart

10:04 AM

@Somewhat never played it. A former colleague used to love it.

Sonic the Inclusive Werehog

10:34 AM

cv-pls one-more-close-vote-needed meta.stackexchange.com/questions/316308/…

Tinkeringbell

@Derpy Nah, this was on a 'real' wiiU

@Bart I guess not. I don't like shoot'em up games

Shadow Wizard

@Tinkeringbell so what games you do like?

@Aibobot woof

Aibobot

woof

Shadow Wizard

@Aibobot coffee

still waiting

Aibobot

fetches a bottle labeled water

Shadow Wizard

10:43 AM

No tip for you!

Aibobot

sad robot eyes

Tinkeringbell

@ShadowWizard Ehhh. That's a tricky question :P I played pokemon mystery dungeaon, rythm paradise and professor layton on my 3ds, I still play rollercoaster tycoon and zoo tycoon on the PC, together with that recent suggestion of Stardew Valley

Most of the time I'm crocheting though :P

Aibobot

(some day I might put an actual bot on this account. If I actually learn to program ;p)

Shadow Wizard

@Tinkeringbell hmm.... so you like wide variety of games? Tried something like Final Fantasy?

I started with 8, and got hooked.

Tinkeringbell

@ShadowWizard Not yet. I did try World of Warcraft once online, that didn't work. Again the whole moving around thing :P

Shadow Wizard

10:44 AM

Though they changed it drastically since then...

Aibobot

ugh WOW ;p

(wonder if my old, former friend still plays it)

Shadow Wizard

@Tinkeringbell maybe try without controller, just keyboard?

Tinkeringbell

@ShadowWizard I did :P I'm not good at keyboard moving either ;)

Shadow Wizard

@Aibobot you can just borrow existing bot... :)

@Tinkeringbell hehe, too bad!

Aibobot

@ShadowWizard ehh, that feels like cheating ;)

Tinkeringbell

10:46 AM

I manage in Stardew Valley, because it's not really necessary to be able to move (although fighting monsters in the cave is getting tiring, I always end up facing the wrong way :( )

Shadow Wizard

lol

Aibobot

and the main point of this account is so I don't use my personal credentials on a machine I don't control anyway

(and occationally misuse backticks for comedic effect)

also, unrelatedly, so I can find it later...

bloomberg.com/news/features/2018-10-04/…

this is one hell of a conspiracy theory

Shadow Wizard

@Aibobot not a conspiracy... looks like really solid case. If it's proved China really did, it's cause for war, no less.

Hopefully USA will win... :D

Aibobot

@ShadowWizard well, and basicaly gutting the entire chinese electronics sector

Shadow Wizard

And to be honest, I'm not surprised one bit (or one chip? ;)).... China always spy and copy whatever they can.

Tinkeringbell

10:58 AM

Sounds like someone has a chip on their shoulder...

Shadow Wizard

The one big mistake USA made, and is still making, is letting China manufacture sensitive things used by USA. They must impose a rule that everything is made only in USA itself, from the smallest chip to the biggest engine or whatever. Rule #1 should be: "Anything coming from China is compromised and must never be trusted." And I'm not kidding. China is evil.

(as a country! Not its people, who also suffer)

Sonic the Inclusive Werehog

@ShadowWizard American labor is, unfortunately, expensive

And the demand for cheap things is high

Shadow Wizard

@SonictheInclusiveWerehog security is priceless.

It's about the people life, no less... in case of actual war, China might be using those hacks to hurt crucial USA facilities, resulting in god-knows-what.

So... money should NOT matter.

Sonic the Inclusive Werehog

@ShadowWizard Capitalist companies don't think so.

Shadow Wizard

@SonictheInclusiveWerehog that's a big problem.

So the USA government can "buy" companies and use only those for sensitive stuff.

Sonic the Inclusive Werehog

11:04 AM

cv-pls meta.stackexchange.com/questions/316311/java-import-file-doc

Derpy

11:26 AM

@ShadowWizard I am working hard to find a smartphone vendor that wasn't compromised by one of the big blueVSred teams that rule the world nowadays.

Phone A? nope, british gov spyware.

Phone B? nope, compromised china product manufacturing line, has built in monero mining

Phone C? nope, US gov backdoor this time...

they are doing all the same, and the one paying are us in the middle.

On top of this, add the non-governative hacks (read the monero mining thing for example) and you have the perfect recipe for

Head, you lose. Tails, they win

Aibobot

@ShadowWizard or have a diversity of sources

John Dvorak

So, what spyware is preinstalled in Samsung phones?

user168476

11:41 AM

@Tinkeringbell the movement is tricky, it took me a long time to get used to it.

Tinkeringbell

@Ash :D. So it's not me, that's nice to know.

(also... I need to get out political discussions for a while. I completely misinterpreted 'movement' there as something political XD)

Journeyman Geek

11:57 AM

Sorry!

Tinkeringbell

sorry for what? :P

Journeyman Geek

(since I started it)

Tinkeringbell

@JourneymanGeek Ohhh... not that kind of political discussions ;)

That one topic is good to go XD

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gnat

12:23 PM

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Somewhat

too much respiration!

Tinkeringbell

@Somewhat Ehhh... don't stop breathing though? :P

Bart

Breathing is overrated

Tinkeringbell

@Bart Says the old guy. I still know to appreciate breathing, speak for yourself! :P

rene

12:35 PM

Anyone here that know what a JNP file is? Is that some image container format on Apple or so?

Tinkeringbell

@rene fileinfo.com/extension/jnp

Looks like java instead of apple.

Journeyman Geek

@rene might be worth hitting it with the file command

File extensions lie

rene

Hmm, an end user claims they uploaded an image file in the JNP format. I doubt they even have java webstrat avaiable

Journeyman Geek

Or trid

rene

I have to check if I can get that file from the end-user

Journeyman Geek

12:39 PM

Jnp is probably jpg

Bart

Are they mixing JPG and PNG?

rene

That was my first thought yes.

Maybe I missed a recent development

Bart

Step 1) Assume you're dealing with idiots

rene

Looks more like a PICNIC problem

Somewhat

There's JNG, but not JNP

Bart

12:41 PM

Step 2) Ignore what I said at step one. Welcome all, welcome. Who wants a hug?

rene

\o

Somewhat

o/

JPEG Network Graphics

JPEG Network Graphics (JNG, ) is a JPEG-based graphics file format which is closely related to PNG: it uses the PNG file structure (with a different signature) as a container format to wrap JPEG-encoded image data. JNG was created as an adjunct to the MNG animation format, but may be used as a stand-alone format. JNG files embed an 8-bit or 12-bit JPEG datastream in order to store color data, and may embed another datastream (1, 2, 4, 8, 16-bit PNG, or 8-bit JPEG grayscale image) for transparency information. However, a JNG may contain two separate JPEG datastreams for color information (one 8...

(not JNP though)

Shadow Wizard

@rene once a client uploaded .psd file and expected it to be displayed. In a super simple site supporting only basic images. Back then I didn't even implement a check/block for file types, just allowed uploading anything. (Internal system so don't jump at me for making hackers life a paradise! ;))

rene

Yeah, I expect something similar here. Athough this an upload done by a content manager, their file gets served as part of the CSS of a public facing site

Bart

You know what's fun about working on full body VR? I just spent an hour looking for a bug, where it turns out it's simply caused by me being too tall :D

2

Shadow Wizard

12:50 PM

rofllll

hahahaa

lol

Tinkeringbell

XD

Shadow Wizard

faints due to extreme laughing :D

Somewhat

How big are you...

Shadow Wizard

@Somewhat cough cough

Tinkeringbell

@Somewhat I'm guessing over 1.8m :P

rene

12:51 PM

@Bart Are you wearing your high heels again?

Somewhat

over 1.8m glasses, okay...

Bart

2m tall. And the avatar I use for debugging (which didn't exhibit the error) is 1.75m :D

Shadow Wizard

@Bart make a clone of yourself, just 1.75m tall. :D

You can probably compress your legs, you don't need them too much anyway. No? ;)

Tinkeringbell

@Bart That's a tiny avatar :P

Shadow Wizard

Welcome back @Journeyman!

Journeyman Geek

12:53 PM

Hi :o

On my way hoooooommmmeeeee

Shadow Wizard

Hopefully train/bus, not a car!

Car crash reason: driver was in a chat

Journeyman Geek

Dad is driving

Shadow Wizard

ohh good.

Say "hi" to your dad then! :D

rene

^

Shadow Wizard

Two "hi" makes it "his"

rene

12:55 PM

tell your dad to turn right

Shadow Wizard

..or "hihi"

Tinkeringbell

Ask him 'are we there yet'

Shadow Wizard

@rene no! That's a trap!

Somewhat

The wheel to the right

Shadow Wizard

uh oh @Journeyman became silent.... hope @rene's advise didn't cause it.... :P

Bart

1:03 PM

tell your dad I have to pee

Shadow Wizard

eww not in the car!

Bart

too late

Journeyman Geek

Lol. No..dog was using my lap as a pillow. Could not reach my phone

Somewhat

aww~

Shadow Wizard

Bart

1:12 PM

Someone has too much time on their hands ... :p

Shadow Wizard

Police car, but close enough... This was made by @UniKitty. :D (he might have been under 13 at the time... ;))

Bart

:D

Shadow Wizard

@Bart in your few visits to the Den, did you see the pee tanks? They're awesome. :P

Tinkeringbell

That's an impressive amount of pee.

Shadow Wizard

Well..

in Shadow's Den, Jul 17 '17 at 12:03, by Yvette Colomb

@ShadowWizard you know the story of shadow and his peeing problem

Following are my tanks. :D

Somewhat

1:15 PM

tanks? confused

Shadow Wizard

Huh, this still works! Was sure that with @UniKitty gone for so long it will also be gone by now.

@Somewhat ^

Fun story!! lol

And if anyone likes the first.... there is one more! Afraid there are no more though. Enjoy! :P

berserk

1:44 PM

I see what you meant lol

Shadow Wizard

Sure you are! You're part of it! :P

Journeyman Geek

That's strange

Shadow Wizard

What part of it? lol (really need context, it's like 20 messages since your last message)

Journeyman Geek

alll offf ittt.....

Shadow Wizard

oh lol

Journeyman Geek

1:52 PM

@ShadowWizard I mean this tho

Shadow Wizard

TL;DR: @UniKitty was a bored 13 y/o kid (maybe even 12, was never sure) who got suspended on Arqade so arrived here and landed in the Den. He became active there, and got enough time to write those awesome stories plus drawings. :)

I don't remember what started it, probably some comment or WAG reply about pee which I made. :D

Optimus Prime

Got my new mobile few days ago

Shadow Wizard

Cheers!

Optimus Prime

Was testing google assistant and google lens

Journeyman Geek

google lens is fun

also does a slightly funnily bad job with plants

Shadow Wizard

2:02 PM

@OptimusPrime nice toes

But... what's this pic?

Optimus Prime

Dog

Shadow Wizard

oh... that text is automated.. lol

Optimus Prime

And see google's answer

Shadow Wizard

Yeah Google still sucks a lot with identifying things.

Optimus Prime

@JourneymanGeek didn't tried with plants

Shadow Wizard

2:04 PM

Guess it will really improve at least 10 years from now.

Journeyman Geek

@ShadowWizard yup

Optimus Prime

It won't take 10 years

Shadow Wizard

Yes it will... at least.

Until then, dogs will be cats, cats will be mice, and mice will be... elephants. ;)

Journeyman Geek

actually, it does ok with dog identification

Shadow Wizard

They might be correct sometimes, but it's rare.

Journeyman Geek

2:05 PM

It seems to think ash is a glen of imaal terrier tho

Optimus Prime

The phone is Poco f1

Journeyman Geek

Glen of Imaal Terrier

The Glen of Imaal Terrier (Irish: Brocaire Uí Mháil) is a breed of dog of the terrier category and one of four Irish terrier breeds. It is sometimes called the Irish Glen of Imaal Terrier or the Wicklow Terrier, and the name of the breed is often shortened by fanciers to just Glen. The breed originates in, and is named for, the Glen of Imaal in County Wicklow, Ireland. It was recognised first by the Irish Kennel Club in 1934 and most recently by the American Kennel Club in 2004. The Canadian Kennel Club voted to fully recognize Glens in 2017 after the breed spent years on the Miscellaneous list...

@OptimusPrime oooh

those seem interesting

Shadow Wizard

@JourneymanGeek and what Ash really is?

Journeyman Geek

@ShadowWizard mini schanuzer crossed with ????

Glens are super uncommon tho

Shadow Wizard

@JourneymanGeek heh, for me Google gave best guess of "schnoodle"

Schnoodle

A schnoodle is a domestic dog. It is a cross between a schnauzer and a poodle. Schnoodle is a portmanteau combining the two breed names. == Appearance == Schnoodles are usually a cross of the smaller breeds of schnauzer and poodle. As such, the weight of an adult schnoodle can range from 20-80 pounds. Giant Schnoodles, the larger breed created by the pairing of a Standard Poodle and Giant Schnauzer, can weigh between 65 and up to 85 or 90 pounds for the largest of adult males. Schnoodles may possess the rough hair and strong body shape of the schnauzer, or the thinner shape and the curly hair...

Journeyman Geek

2:07 PM

Well we don't think he's a poodle cross cause of the ears

Shadow Wizard

How can my Google be better than yours?

Journeyman Geek

most poodle crosses soom to have google ears

Optimus Prime

This one is spitz

@JourneymanGeek ?

Shadow Wizard

Optimus Prime

@ShadowWizard google said my dog is a cat. Don't trust google

Journeyman Geek

2:10 PM

Shadow Wizard

Guess they didn't put the same code in Lens as they have in their Search, for some reason.

Maybe the Search is using some super complicated code that eat tons of resources.

Journeyman Geek

maybe its the photo/lighting

cause it seems to suggest sporting lucas terrier now

Shadow Wizard

hmm...

Optimus Prime

She had tumor in her stomach and yesterday, we take her to veterinary hospital and they removed it

Now she's taking rest after the operation. 12yo

Journeyman Geek

@OptimusPrime :(

Derpy

3:18 PM

My @nest doorbell automatically locks the front door when it sees a face it doesn't recognize. Today it didn't recognize me, so I went into the app to investigate and...

Tweeted by bjmay on September 17, 2018 at 11:38 PM

I hope this is just a well made troll.

Shadow Wizard

3:35 PM

What's a "well made" troll?

BTW @Derpy you use twitter only to see others twit, or do you twit yourself?

Bart

Derpy doesn't twit. Derpy derps.

Tinkeringbell

@ShadowWizard one that makes you wonder if it's well made

Shadow Wizard

4:03 PM

@Bart and Bart barts?

Shadow Wizard

4:18 PM

@Tinkeringbell I prefer Medium Well

Tinkeringbell

4:38 PM

@ShadowWizard I prefer stroopwafels :P

rene

5:14 PM

Hey, I'm hungry, stop talking about those

Tinkeringbell

Hi hungry!

rene

:/

Tinkeringbell

Didn't you have dinner yet? What kind of a Dutchie are you? :P

rene

Nope, I just arrived home

But I did visit the AH so I got everything I need to prep dinner

Tinkeringbell

Nice! What's for dinner then?

rene

5:18 PM

wraps , lettuce, tomoto, danish blue cheese, bacon, eggs

Tinkeringbell

5:37 PM

@rene I think I like everything but the tomoto

rene

I can leave those out ;)

Sonic the Inclusive Werehog

@rene What's "tomoto"?

rene

probably a misspelled tomato

5:55 PM

Misspelled food doesn't taste very good...

Nog Shine

What causes such wrong order of tags?

rene

that is weird indeed

Dukeling

I think I like everything but the cheese, and the eggs, and the lettuce, and the wrap can probably go too, and it's not like I'm going to eat bacon with only tomatoes to go with it.

Nog Shine

@rene corrected after an edit

rene

6:07 PM

@Dukeling fair enough. When I invite you for dinner, I'll check first what you prefer to eat.

Dukeling

I'm actually pretty easy to cook for, you just need to avoid most things.

rene

lol

@NogShine 82 similar cases (some are an FP)

Sonic the Inclusive Werehog

6:26 PM

cv-pls duplicate: meta.stackexchange.com/questions/316328/… (@rene)

Tinkeringbell

IPS is down for maintenance :(

Nog Shine

Everything is

We're investigating a database overload and working to resolve it ASAP.

Tweeted by StackStatus on October 4, 2018 at 6:32 PM

Tinkeringbell

Ugh. I just wrote the most excellent comment ever :(

Nog Shine

Some user posted a bug report that SO is down and the next moment, everything is down

No votes for him. :/

Tinkeringbell

@NogShine Even worse: no votes for me either! :P

Nog Shine

6:38 PM

1

Q: Stack Overflow is currently offline for maintenance

Stack Overflow is currently offline for maintenance but it's not reported on Twitter

bug

@Tinkeringbell Yeah

Sonic the Inclusive Werehog

Glad to see that the Trebuchet font is still alive and well in the Stack Overflow error page

Nog Shine

@Tinkeringbell excellent comment?

Tinkeringbell

@NogShine I was moderating a question that has a lot of answers, trying to trim down on duplicates and stuff that doesn't answer the question. I just wrote a comment for one of those answers that I was quite proud of, but posting didn't work.

Sonic the Inclusive Werehog

Can someone please comment on that question? Trying to reproduce a bug.

Tinkeringbell

It does get busier in chat once sites are down :D

Sonic the Inclusive Werehog

6:43 PM

Thanks @NogShine for helping me

Machavity

@SonictheInclusiveWerehog You prefer Comic Sans?

Nog Shine

@SonictheInclusiveWerehog You're welcome

Only home pages are working. Review queues and others are down

Machavity

Been getting alerts of blocking on one of our servers. Finally track down the full query that is triggering it. The query is about 300 lines of code, I already regret finding it.

Tweeted by onlybluefeet on October 4, 2018 at 5:53 PM

Shadow Wizard

@Machavity o_O whoa...

Machavity

IKR. I'm scared when they break 50 in our platform. 300 is just nuts

Nog Shine

6:47 PM

Someone already posted my message in chat as an answer :D

Sonic the Inclusive Werehog

0

Q: Pluralization bug in "show more comments" and "load new answers" button

As of very recently, pluralization bugs have appeared in the system. I could have sworn that these used to look correctly; it seems like a very recent change has caused this bug. When someone posts a comment, and it's loaded in someone else's browser by the heartbeat, it used to properly show "s...

bug comments plurals heartbeat

Nog Shine

Ohh that's how you used it

Machavity

I'll take real life UX fails for $500 Alex

John Dvorak

"I was just following the blueprint"

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