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12:01 AM
@SonicWizard The response to that request was written by a CM... I don't know that means it's necessarily easy to obtain that information. I don't know that it's not... but I'm not sure why one would be different from the other. For mods, we see two pieces of info - are they banned and have they run into the ban.
Which is why I'm pinging Shog with the updated version of my request.
Also, would you support or oppose this in principle?
@SonicWizard I don't have strong feelings either way. I've found that such alerts are relatively unuseful. People who want to post will ignore them or simply not read them, as they refused to read any of the other content that they'd been given before.
How about if the user is forced to wait 10 seconds before being able to close the dialog?
^or 20, or 30, or an hour ...
Another 6-8 weeks ...
@SonicWizard That would require a different UI than already exists for those sorts of popups (as far as I'm aware of them).
12:11 AM
@Catija currently the div pop-ups disappear as soon you click outside, yes.
Modal popup windows are a quite different thing.
@SonicWizard seems pointless
oh hey...
A: Warn new users who ran into a question ban on other sites before they post here on Meta

broUsers are shown a warning before they receive a question ban. If it didn't help then, it won't help here either. Developer time is better invested into something that improves the quality of the content that lasts, not on dealing with rejects.

Developer time is better invested into something that improves the overall quality of content that gets posted here on Meta. — Sonic Wizard Apr 19 at 5:53
Precisely this. Just about anyone hitting a ban has already been swaddled in yards of silky-soft warnings and guidance, which they've probably never read. Giving them more text to read - after first running an expensive cross-site lookup - isn't likely to make one bit of difference. — Shog9 ♦ 7 secs ago
In other words, implementing the above feature will at least cause some people to reconsider before posting this, which will improve the overall percentage of good questions asked on Meta.
very unlikely
The much, much cheaper option would be to put an interstitial page on MSE that says something about meta being for questions about the network or some such, complete with that checkbox on the bottom.
12:25 AM
Same as trying to make an analphabet wary about the big "Do not enter!!!" signs you made up for protecting your private property.
anyone likely to read and comprehend a targeted warning will read and comprehend that. Some larger portion will fail to find the checkbox. The rest will ask anyway. BUT - without the expensive cross-site query.
No. You are wrong, and the evidence that you are wrong is plain and apparent. Go ask your question on StackOverflow if you think they will appreciate your question. Gerhard "Mathematics.Stackexchange Also Has Their Standards" Paseman, 2018.04.23. — Gerhard Paseman 9 mins ago
ok, I guess that's one argument against enabling more asking about questions on meta
the right way:
12:32 AM
@TelKitty Strange blob of white at the top.
"I'm tempted to recall a racist joke here. However, while it would be very effective in communicating the point, it will also run against other standards being upheld by the forum. So I will just be blunt."
@SonicWizard That stuff should be edited out!
Anyway, one thing I've just been waiting to mention:
Not to mention no forums here.
yeah I know, need imagination: is it a banana? is it the head of a lizard, or the tip a folded towel?
It's my birthday, it's my birthday, I'mma spend my money...
12:34 AM
@TelKitty I've captured your nose :-)
@Shog9 Post edited since you closed it: meta.stackexchange.com/questions/309352/…
nose of a smallish elephant?
@SmokeDetector tpu-
@Shog9 Sorry for calling you an elephant, but in that context that's more of a compliment ;-)
1:21 AM
sd tpu-
What I think of when someone says "Elephant in the room" now: youtube.com/watch?v=fZLQER_DtR8
are you saying shog is the elephant in the room?
@Sergei "lets wait for admins conclusions" One of the elephants already was in your room. — πάντα ῥεῖ 38 mins ago
@TelKitty In this "smallish" one, yes:
Q: community of mathoverflow

SergeiThis question is not related to differences between goals of math overflow and math.stackexchange but rather addresses this dedications conceptual problems. Stackoverflow has noobs and best professionals working shoulder to shoulder. There is no any need to split junior and senior experiences th...

@Catija "Q: How would you know that an elephant visited your fridge? A: Seeing the footprints left in the butter."
1:54 AM
I don't get it. Why don't you just ask your question on the proper site? — Shog9 ♦ 43 mins ago
Shog9, I have read your response and hereby acknowledge it. I did not come to chat to discuss the content of that question, but to raise the issue of perceived rudeness by yourself.

For the record, I don't think there's anything to be gained by belaboring it at this point.
Footprints in your butter? @DoritoStyle
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4:03 AM
@SonicWizard honestly, if comment could be downvoted, I'd downvote that instantly...
Quality of Meta is the least concern of casual users.
I got rid of Elk already, but that's ok...
But If I chose the other side of the hand as the avatar, then it'll be too similar and confusing to others... :S
Considering I have no idea who either of you are... I think it's already confusing.
An idea: after 30 days, swap the usernames and avatars.
4:14 AM
@Catija One can be considered as a news outlet of SE network, and another is someone who doesn't have any idea what they're talking about :p
I think that's a troll bridge too far @TelKitty
@bro that's evil...
@TelKitty I've probably heard/read similar fiction...
Is/are the data at insights.stackoverflow.com/trends every updated?
Looks like the time stopped in the middle of 2017.
[sympy] is now over 2000 questions on SO, so eligible for inclusion, but... :(
4:23 AM
I don't think SE has any pure data sciency people any more?
Julia Silge is still at SO.
> I live in Salt Lake City, UT, with my husband, three children, and a handful of backyard chickens. stackoverflow.com/users/5468471/julia-silge?tab=profile
She never posts any pictures of the chickens though.
she got promoted no?
Nothing I heard of. Kristina Lustig got promoted, from UX researcher to Product Design Manager.
4:27 AM
got em confused
but I primarily interact with CMish and Sreish types anyway
Looks like they found a new UX researcher; at least the ad got removed.
I haven't peeped in their jobs page in a while
Right now it's getting close to a year since the last update. I'm here because the React 16/MIT license event is after the last data available there and I'm very interested to know if it had an effect visible in Trends. — jinglesthula Apr 19 at 15:07
This has two delete votes and it really bugs me... can someone give it the third? meta.stackexchange.com/a/180968/284336
And I can't even bump it with a bounty. :( Stack Overflow Trends not updated
4:38 AM
Edit and add a "bounty notice-like" on the end of the question :/
@Shadow @rene Not a duplicate. This is a support question asking why this behavior exists, while the target is a feature request asking for it to be removed: meta.stackexchange.com/questions/309334/…
I added a tag. :)
@ShadowWizard aw, that sucks. I was so punny too :3
5:00 AM
chat suspended again ... if you have a mental break down, it's best to see a psychiatrist than to hang out in chat
No good ones around, unfortunately
that's... certainly true.
because every time you suspend someone out of emotional issues, it can be used to judge what ticks you and make you going through a complete mental breaking down
I am getting more batteries, every 5 minutes I test my autonomous toy car, I need to leave it recharging for 30 minutes
you get there eventually but it's too slow
5:05 AM
A true car uses accu
I mean, sometimes a mental breaking down is not caused by a mental breaking down itself, but some kind of bodily pain, like some kind of internal organ failure ... not that I wish that on to anyone, just saying what I know from observation
A true car can also kill, my toy one wouldn't even hurt a chicken
my chickens are very curious about the car when I am testing it
5:22 AM
you know ... banning a woman out of anger might be the first step
prevention is better than cure, better check it out before it's too late
5:48 AM
A: Left nav, responsive design, and theming next steps

Sonic WizardThanks for considering the above changes; those are definitely an improvement. However, I request one thing: Keep 404 error pages customizable per site In other words, allow sites to choose the image that appears on the left side of the page. In my opinion, the 404 error page adds a certain le...

@TelKitty I know, let's ban all vehicles!
What about 500 error pages?
@bro Post your own answer
@JohnDvorak what about horses and mules carts? donkey trolley maybe?
Meh. I don't think either one is worth the trouble.
5:51 AM
@TelKitty only warhorses and warmules.
and anything with sharp front teeth
I searched for warhorse and got this instead:
8 legged horse ...
8-legged horse you say?
but 8 reindeer have 32 legs :'(
6:14 AM
@πάνταῥεῖ Touché ...
I agree with Sonic (I know, right?) but yeah, the 404 images are charming and I hope they stay. — Robotnik 58 mins ago
(Notice the irony)
6:30 AM
@SmokeDetector writing service
Curious what is "Pickles" Team on Joe's screenshot
@SonicWizard I disagree, Yes/No support question is actually a feature request since "Yes" or "No" are not proper answers IMO. /cc @rene
@ShadowWizard umm, perhaps you wanted to remove your obsolete comment?
@Shadow By the way, in case you didn't recognize the irony, "Ivo Robotnik" is Dr. Eggman's real name (though he started going by the name "Dr. Eggman" after Sonic kept calling him that).
@ShadowWizard fair enough, we agree to disagree then, where is my ice cream?
@hey hmm? What comment? ;)
6:42 AM
@ShadowWizard It's not just a "yes/no" question. If you read it carefully, it also asks why. The title even says "if so, why?". (cc @rene)
> I am well aware of the irony if this turned out to be a duplicate..
- Should I ever ask a duplicate question on purpose? [duplicate]
@ShadowWizard I... I'm imagining thing...
> Edit: Well..
@SonicWizard only if it was done on purpose
7 mins ago, by Sonic Wizard
> Edit: Well..
@hey do you want to talk about this?
6:54 AM
@TelKitty sure, I think this is a better conversation topic
@TelKitty Does he by any chance have two tails?
First, why was it smirking? :)
@hey better ... than w00t?
6:58 AM
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Q: Moderation health status

SergeiThere is some site with wrong moderation traditions formed like security, mathoverflow, math. Moderators there do not know when to mark duplicate or what is offtopic. To monitor moderation health status I propose to provide moderation metrics. One good metric is enterence statistics. It would ...

How come that dup didn't show up in my searches? It already has pretty much the same wording.. That kinda disproves my point.. — Lonely Neuron 17 mins ago
@ShadowWizard yummy :D
7:38 AM
I do not regard these downvotes. I only downvote wrong answers. I think there is no bad questions. There should be strict reason, not just dislike its noobity, etc. — Sergei 12 mins ago
8:02 AM
A: Moderation health status

TelKittyI am worried too. Stackexchange/overflow is a great site with many wonderful people. Recently I encountered a few incidents of what seems to be mental breakdowns of a person with mod power. What happened to me is minor. But the effect of mentally unsound person with power on this site can be m...

fight injustice!
8:22 AM
I wondered if you was suspended on this chat room due to the message that Journeyman pointed?
wonder? so you are not sure either?
like I said, I did nothing wrong, so not sure whether it's targeted or random drive by shooting
When I triage, site says remember to upvote to encourage. Thus downvote discourages. — LeeGee Jun 3 '17 at 15:15
8:38 AM
@TelKitty so every time you get chat banned, you assume whoever did it has mental break down. Nice. Did you consider the option that... you... did something wrong?
not every time
I don't assume that everyone has mental breakdown and it's okay to have a mental break down
but I know when someone is going through a mental break down and you should not operate heavy machinery when you do ...
and I know exact the trigger of this mental break down
8:53 AM
So you caused a mental break down for a moderator, he/she chat banned you, and now you accuse them? Also nice.
I mean I would be more sympathetic is the person of concern has cancer or recent departure of loved one, but to my limited knowledge, there is nothing of such magnitude happening ... if someone is having a mental breakdown because of a tweet and all he deserve is contempt
If it happened to Jeff, it can happen to anyone.
not if you are tough
I eat nails snail for breakfast
mods only got a diamond, they're not made of diamond.
9:16 AM
if you go through a mental break down and causing the alienation of your female staff and users then really it's time for you to depart your post for a while
you are really harming the site
I mean most other people remind great
@TelKitty In a world where 'toughness' equates to things like callousness and not caring, why would you consider 'being tough' a good thing?
no idea what you talk about, but you can always send contact form to SE and ask them to take a look and remove that mod you talk about so much.
@Mithrandir24601 this is not a social network, we care about truth and knowledge more than personal ties
9:22 AM
also being tough is a great thing because people with the greatest contribution to mankind are all tough
@TelKitty That's true, but doesn't address the point of why 'being tough' should be considered good - you can have/answer with 'truth and knowledge' without having to be harsh about it
toughness is necessary when you are defending the truth
you might not attack anyone but that does mean no one would attack you because they think you are a sheep
@TelKitty to quote the good book. "DO NOT TAUNT THE HAPPY FUN BALL"
If you know something will offend, or cause someone pain, its common sense not to pick at thos scabs.
9:27 AM
@TelKitty Why? Just because that's what a large number of people are brought up to believe, does not make it so
I learned it the hard way - now having to manage a couple of things that would greatly affect other people's lives - be kind and charitable but never be a push over
people will raise sheep for slaughter but they hardly ever do so for large predators, they are kept as companion ... or display
@Mithrandir24601 I suggest you to start look at facts
hit me with facts not just something you think might be true
@TelKitty I wouldn't equate "never be a push over" with 'being tough' though
9:34 AM
@SonicWizard and probably was originally intended to be a girl.
@Derpy Um...how's that relevant?
@SonicWizard Random trivia?
...and I hit the rep cap for the first time, on my birthday
@Mithrandir24601 to me, never be a push over is worse than being tough - tough person can still be caring, never be a push over sounds like not easy going
@TelKitty really? There was one, who cracked the Nazi Enigma machine during WW2 and probably saved millions of lives by this... He wasn't tough. He killed himself when pushed too much.
9:39 AM
@ShadowWizard define "tough"
Contribute to the war must be a great contribution to human kind
@Derpy one who don't care when being insulted, and can adjust to major changes in their life.
@TelKitty Ah, that's where we differ - I don't see how a 'tough' person can still care - to me, it's equated with the opposite - being uncaring. The easy road in life isn't always the best road though :P
@ShadowWizard You are a young male wizard on a lonely island in the middle of the sea. A day a plague strikes the city. As a result, all the females slowly start to turn into stone statues. On the other and you are unaffected. In the end, you adapt to the situation and continue your studies in your tower, while the population slowly dimes. Are you tough?
9:45 AM
yes you can be a tough and caring person
@TelKitty What about the other parts of the definition: "Demonstrating a strict and uncompromising approach.", "Strong and prone to violence", "A rough and violent man" (informal)?
I think tough has slightly positive connotation
but I guess it's like with any attribute - two sides of a coin
@TelKitty True enough - I think I'd personally use the word 'strong' to describe what you're referring to, as opposed to 'tough', but I think this is brought on by reading a Wheel of Time, where the only thing I remember picking up from that (overly long) series was the difference between the meanings of the words 'tough' and 'strong' when applied to a person
10:02 AM
Well, I guess the motto "Be a tough man" can be blamed...
@hey "man"
Learn from Amazoness
@hey To be fair, I just remembered that "Tough boy" was the name of the song used for the second Hokuto No Ken OP.
10:17 AM
@Derpy easy: I research the plague and find a cure. All females are cured. Cycle of life continues. :)
10:39 AM
@ShadowWizard that is very kind of you.. but does not answer my question :P
@ShadowWizard cue Elton John song ...
@Derpy well, I consider myself though but can't tell for sure, only others can.
10:55 AM
It's good that you consider yourself...
though you're not sure...
tough doesn't mean self confident.... ;)
11:18 AM
... in the meantime, a question about Death note has just formed in my mind. But I don't want to have to create an account on the Anime.SE imageboard
@Derpy Will your question fall into Death Note rule puzzle?
@hey more like "is this a plot-hole or it was explained somewhere and the various translation of the How-to-read volume just forgot about it?"
@Shog9 I have since discontinued my flagging of serial voting and also for now discontinued my activity on the network. You can also close the two tickets I still have open if you haven't already (and want). Sorry for soaking up CM time with this fruitless endeavour.
@hey also, I am not very interested in the rules puzzles. Must be because I am pretty sure that the rules as they stand probably already open up a very simple way to smack an "Epic fail" in the face of Kira.
11:35 AM
@user5389107 May I ask, what happened?
@user5389107 just one question, if I may... is this what made you take a break/quit SE?
11:51 AM
@ShadowWizard It's multiple things honestly. I have some really bad destructive personality traits, namely I take a lot of stuff way too seriously and I get extremely anxious about any sort of feedback. Due to past experiences, every time I don't hear anything for a while ... I assume the worst of what happened. This coupled with a conversation I had with mith a while ago in the IPS chatroom confirmed some of my worst fears in that regard
for the ones who speak Bart-tongue.
So I decided to make a clean cut rather then wallow in my anxiety to the point where I make everyone miserable and hate me with my anxiety about this
@user5389107 I've had a similar experience too. Temporarily cutting back from it and then re-approaching it later with new eyes is what helped. Best wishes from me during your break :)
translated summary of the above article:
> The control unit of a Ski lift gondola in Austria was exposed to the internet, allowing you to start/stop/reverse it and even configure the steel cable tension
@Derpy on purpose? Or was it hacked?
12:03 PM
@Derpy Hopefully that was not vulnerable to CSRF attacks
@ShadowWizard on error. It was supposed to be only available over LAN. It was accessible to everyone over the web.
@Derpy huh. Anything happened?
@ShadowWizard There is a video I found on youtube of a malfunctioning ski lift from the same producer suddenly going in reverse mode at full speed. Not a nice view, people got launched face-first in the snow as the seats rapidly turned direction at the base of the gondola. I don't know if it is related
Either way, it is scary.
If it is related, then the "error" was used to full damage. If it isn't related to this specific incident... it only proves that that company already did mayor errors in the past.
In both cases the question is : why are they still allowed to operate in the field?
1 hour later…
1:13 PM
@Derpy looks like Twitch Plays
@user5389107 It's really unfortunate losing a user like you that has a strong sense of justice. Don't look too down on yourself, your "bad destructive personality traits" might not even be that "bad", nor "desctructive". People arguing, that's normal... In the end, I can only wish you the best. Take a breather, and later come back to the community you actually loved!
1:36 PM
@Derpy because nobody really cares? Because they bribe whoever needs to be bribed? Pick your choice. :)
1:57 PM
@hey urgh. That was BAD.
@TimPost I received the hat contest swag yesterday, liking it very much :) the shipping note mentions both a SO t-shirt and a SE t-shirt, but there was no SO t-shirt in the box. Not that I mind, but thought I should let someone know.
@Stijn You sure? I only got an SE shirt.
There was an SO water bottle and pen. Not shirt.
all other stuff was in the box though
SE shirt, bottle, notebook, pens, stickers
I don't remember if I still have my packing slip, though. As far as I'm aware (I've talked to about 5-6 people who got swag) there's only one shirt. Shirt, nalgene, notepad, retractable sharpie, pen, three stickers from your top sites that have stickers, patch.
yeah probably a mistake on the note
I'm happy the shirt fits, it was hard to pick the correct US size :p
2:12 PM
@Stijn Tim isn't the one responsible for the delivery, @animuson is.
Probably. :) animuson did the order management. He might have some info. There's a "where's my swag" post on MSE.
A: What happened to that contest swag I was promised?

animusonMoose Contest about Hats or Something (December 2017) Status: Completed Contact: animuson Just posting this here as a reference point for everyone. The form was closed on February 12ᵗʰ to allow a few others who didn't receive the initial email. We're still in the process of formatting the sprea...

thanks for the link
2:36 PM
I'm curious as to why this question appears in the list of linked questions here (10k), a blatantly off-topic code dump with more code in the comments but no links.
@Glorfindel related, not linked. There's a great difference.
Deleted comment?
The "related" questions are selected automatically, regardless of links.
(based on key words)
3:01 PM
@ShadowWizard ah, thanks.
@Catija nice new (?) avatar! ;)
@ShadowWizard :D Thanks. It's been a couple weeks but not too long
3:16 PM
Nice! What did you do that resulted in such face? :)
He was sick :( He made a bunch of silly faces at me.
ohhh... they can be cute when they're sick... :)
That reminds me when I was around age 5, having high fever, and jumping around...
@user5389107 I just wanted to step in and expand upon my answer here: meta.stackoverflow.com/a/365764/19679 to say that your efforts were far from fruitless and have had a very positive impact on the site. We uncovered a large number of sock puppets and voting rings with your help, which allowed us to normalize the voting on a large number of posts. That overall helps the integrity and trustworthiness of the voting system.
@hey jumping around?? My kids do it all the time without having fever at all... ;)
3:29 PM
@user5389107 I understand what it's like to cope with anxiety, and how you can get 99 pieces of positive feedback yet fixate on the 1 negative response. I do that all the time, dwelling on minor critiques of my popular projects. If walking away from the site is the best choice for you right now, I get that. I just want you to know that you had a strong net positive impact on the site, and will be welcomed back if and when you want to return.
I think that while sick with high fever, I learned to read wall clock, without digits, in age of 4 or 5. (way before I "should" have learned it) lol
@BradLarson you talk about SO, I assume? Looks like the straw was IPS, not SO. Unless I misread some things here.
@ShadowWizard I took this edit: meta.stackoverflow.com/posts/365756/revisions to indicate that it was partially the result of the work there. In case it was, I wanted to make it clear that their help would be missed.
@BradLarson I see. Thanks!
@Bart World
4:05 PM
> You know what thing we're planning to work on after the Stack Overflow for Teams launch? Nothing. Not a damn thing. We have some nice-to-haves lists stowed away, but the prevailing assumption is the month after is unpredictable and will need people to improve and fix things. -- Nick Craver at 5:21 AM - 24 Apr 2018
4:39 PM
Wouldn't ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-changes come after launching SOfT?
4:50 PM
They are connected, because Teams require left nav.
SOFT is a good acronym for that.
@Stijn The only thing I can think of is it must have been a mistake. Usually, if the warehouse just runs out of stuff, they'll adjust the packing list accordingly so .. it just somehow didn't make it in the box. Use the contact link to let 'em know and they'll send off another shirt (it really only takes a minute to do it, you won't be imposing)
5:02 PM
So easy to get shirts... ;)
ah, I see...
sd poof
> In the first month we won't change anything because we have better things to do than tweaking a temporary design, in the rest of eternity we won't change anything because people are already used to the design.
5:22 PM
@ShadowWizard Don't worry. His parties suck
5:53 PM
@M.A.R.ಠ_ಠ can't be, they're full of bees and honey
6:04 PM
sd why
@SmokeDetector tp-
sd poof
6:17 PM
Completely unrelated to your question, but congratulations on asking question number 50.000.000 :) — Manfred Radlwimmer 7 hours ago
PostId 50000000, to be precise.
Fittingly, it's unanswered.
@ManfredRadlwimmer Just being pedantic, but you mean making post number 50,000,000. Post IDs are shared between questions and answers. — gparyani 14 secs ago
@bro The strange dot-for-comma convention they use in Europe :)
@SonicWizard yeah, it broke my stats-scraping script on pt.SO. Although I should know after this exhausting exercise in number formats
6:29 PM
My point was more that PostId = N is not "question number N", since questions, answers, tag wikis, etc are all numbered within the same table.
And there are some gaps created when SQL server restarts.
@bro And don't forget ArtOfCode's position: "I would use commas, but that would annoy a particular set of people. I would use dots, but that would annoy the other set of people. So, I'll use spaces. Now you're both annoyed."
Thin spaces, I hope... not the regular ones.
> Numbers consisting of long sequences of digits can be made more readable by separating them into groups, preferably groups of three, separated by a small space. For this reason, ISO 31-0 specifies that such groups of digits should never be separated by a comma or point, as these are reserved for use as the decimal sign.
For example, one million (1000000) may be written as 1 000 000. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ISO_31-0#Numbers
Art's position is essentially ISO 31-0
6:35 PM
buh.. @Evan strikes again.
Why do you need 30k rep for that? Why not just open it up to everyone? :) — Sonic Wizard 11 secs ago
food.. for.. trolls... shivers :D
@ShadowWizard Better to participate in the joke, but seeing as he always responds to the comments, I'd want to see what he responds to my comment
@SonicWizard nope, he rarely, if ever, responded to me.
Maybe because of my location, and he's smart enough to avoid suspension.
(e.g. by insulting me in comments, which can lead to flags etc)
Wikipedia has explicit rules against "gaming the system" and "wikilawyering"
6:44 PM
that was quick: meta.stackoverflow.com/a/366500/578411 a month suspension.
@SonicWizard Well, they have x10000 more content than SE, so it's essential.
For instance, there is a rule saying that if you revert the same edit more than three times within a 24-hour period, you will be blocked immediately. However, I've seen many blocks issued for "gaming the system" because users performed a fourth revert just after the 24 hours expired.
@rene huh. Some people are beyond help when it comes to understanding how SO/SE works.
MSE plea for suspension removal in 10.. 9.. 8..
we close vote as dup
@rene of what?
It's not question ban
6:57 PM
I'll find one ...
is stack overflow down?
nevermind working now
@varadmehta People say experience is the best teacher. But that's not true. Stack Overflow is the best teacher.
I'm not sure about Smokeys report
@πάνταῥεῖ see the revision and chat.stackexchange.com/transcript/message/44195207#44195207
7:02 PM
Looks dumb, but at least innocent :-D
@rene What are you planning this evening? Heintje at full volume?
not spammer or troll, yeah
Wouldn't it be time to do a post lock and comment purge on that drupal drama?
@rene no, still waiting for something official. 700+ rep user in a small-ish site nuked like a simple spammer is fishy.
@πάνταῥεῖ no, but I have a ticket for a kind of Queen tribute / lecture tomorrow night. So I expect that to be fun.
@ShadowWizard it deteriorates a bit, the discussion that is.
@rene to be honest I didn't bother to read all the edits, it's just a wall of text. But the fact remains: account with high rep and lots of good content is destroyed, without any explanation. To anyone. So this makes me realize same can happen to me, on the smaller sites. That's all.
7:09 PM
fair enough
I'm trying to continue my silly stupid generic delphi datetime scanner implementation now. I'm still nodding, They provide tons of stuff to deal with datetime formats, but just to convert intrinsic datetime types to string, nothing vice versa like a simple format string, e.g. %YYYY/%MM%DD %HH:%MM%SS%mmm :-P. My plan is to build a generic regex based upon such format string now.
Usually when a user post such thing a CM or site mod post answer like "since you started this, we can reveal what is going on, you did [list of bad stuff], hence got punished". But in that case, nothing like that, just irritating and unhelpfull comments from a site mod. @rene
But smokey and you interrupt me all the time :-)
@ShadowWizard Yeah, that is true. Let's see what happens then. I'll try to ignore it
@πάνταῥεῖ you're welcome
7:13 PM
@πάνταῥεῖ regex ... well, a date is not html, so you might be good
There should be a (more or less) simple way to create a generic matching regex and indexing matching groups to extract the necessary digits.
I've honestly never used a regex to parse a date. I rather write a parser myself if I have to.
@ShadowWizard I'm hesitant to ask, but where is this? Never mind. Found it.
@πάνταῥεῖ "18th in March 70". Extract digits from that. :D
@JonEricson enjoy the read ;)
My reading time plugin estimates 11 min read
7:19 PM
I just need digits and simple separators so far (like in my example)
@JonEricson thanks for chiming in. You can just see the nuked account on Drupal, I guess, no need to read all the stuff the frustrated user posted. :)
@πάνταῥεῖ oh. I did it tons of times, no regex. Just ordinary, readable, string manipulation.
In JavaScript, C#, and node.js
Maybe even Delphi and C++
oh, and VBScript!
How could I forget classic ASP and plain VBScript... :D
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@ShadowWizard You Mid$ you way out of it
@Shog9 but my classic ASP experience is a good one... and I'm still using some ancient VBScript utils to this day in some projects... though didn't write one for years. :)
"The theory postulates that even though the individual cannot recall the memory, it may still be affecting them subconsciously, and that these memories can emerge later into the consciousness."
It's like when you belch, and don't remember eating liver & onions...
7:25 PM
@rene nah, too efficient. Better use Split and eat up some memory. ;)
(in VBScript you have to Erase array created with Split)
@Shog9 man... that's one of my favorite foods... for real. :D
"Likes Classic ASP, liver and onions"
@Shog9 that is me.
Hey, you forgot the Oxford comma! @Shog
I'd post the pic @Adam posted on my question, but guess it's too NSFW for this room. lol
(Tim Post kind of hinted this by nuking the question itself)
@ShadowWizard Yep. I think I know what happened. I gotta pick up my kids from school soon, so I won't get a response in right away. It's a bit of a mess all around. :-(
@Shadow I don't care about performance issues ATM, I just want to radically shorten the code. Delphi is so chatty :P ...
@JonEricson no worry, I can wait. Thanks!
@πάνταῥεῖ Split shortens it for me, usuallly.
No fancy substr/Left/Right/Mid stuff.
Just split by the date separator, try some if needed, and take the values you need.
7:33 PM
@ShadowWizard oh... I didn't forget.
@Shog9 oh
So why not "and" instead of the comma?
Just regexes for the allowed format strings and generating another regex with matching groups to identify the parts. That's my idea currently.
sd tpu-
@πάνταῥεῖ and one regex to rule them all?
Something like that, yes.
7:45 PM
@Jon just please ping me if/when you post answer, I might miss it otherwise since the question is below the radar. (Not in homepage even when there is new activity due to the low score)
Here are some valid format strings I'm thinking of:
> `%YYYY/%MM/%DD %hh:%mm:%ss,%nnn
%YY/%MM/%DD %hh:%mm:%ss,%nnn
%DD.%MM.%YYYY %hh:%mm`
Matches should optionally or exactly count max characters for the placeholders
One vote away from populist...
Oh... wait... now I'm confused... does the accepted answer have to have more than +10 or your answer?
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