So @jcolebrand says bbl and the room goes quiet for 2 hours. Typical.

@mootinator what can I say, I've got that kind of personality.

Also, I was just 90 seconds ago contemplating saying I was back ...

Just in case anyone was curious

@jcolebrand Time burglar personality?

Everyone works when you aren't around? ;)

Or that I just am incessantly chatty (apparently even more than Josh)

My head hurts.

@mootinator I recommend either a drill or some sort of pain reliever in a tablet or powder form

Ima go make a strong coffee and consider what code most needs improving between now and 10am.

I don't think I can ever thank twitter.com/#!/datachick enough for the free coffee maker.

@Jin I'm going to need to bribe you with bacon

WAAAAAAARRRRRRRGGGGAAAAAARBBL

> Magic: The Gathering: Duels of the Planeswalkers 2012

Please oh gods of StackExchange rethink your 25 character limit for tags

do it for the Japanese!

@badpssockpuppet MtG-DotPW2012 - where's the problem?

@badpssockpuppet [magic-dotp2012]?

'cept nobody uses 'DoTPW' apparently

Yet...

so Mark Trapp came in with the assist and for now we're using [magic-2012]

still it's causing quite some pain for us, generally speaking. I'm sure Grace has a full list of discussions where we generally swear against the character limit.

@TimStone for what?

@Jin Does it matter?

@PopularDemand good point

@Jin In reality, nothing. I was just frustrated because I can't programmatically change the stylesheet due to cross-domain restrictions and the definition in the stylesheet didn't match the change I was making in the HTML, heh.

@TimStone css is fun 'n joy

Mainly, I was trying to fix the blasphemous HTML that causes this to happen, but the links are styled as .post-menu > a and I wanted to wrap them in floated <li>s

Oh, you know what, I bet I know why that might be too, that's fair.

@badpssockpuppet Just out of curiosity, is there a reason why you can't just use [magic-tg]+[duels-of-the-planeswalkers]?

@Shog9 Because there's "Magic: The Gathering: Duels of the Planeswalkers"

which is not "Magic: The Gathering: Duels of the Planeswalkers 2012"

@badpssockpuppet wait, there's a 2012 planeswalker series?

@TimStone the html in that general area is pretty... nasty..

for the formed we used [mtg-duels-of-planeswalkers]

@Jin Yeah...heheh.

@Shog9 Oh, you're suggesting "half tags"? Seriously?

YOU HAVE VERSIONED ALT-TITLES?

i found more nasty htmls as I was creating the mobile theme html 'n css

@Shog9 What do you mean by that?

@badpssockpuppet No. I was suggesting that if you have [magic] that describes a series, and [whatever] that describes a specific entry in that series, both are valid for a given question.

That's looking pretty slick so far by the way. I still need to play around with it some more, but my first impression was one of relief, heh.

BUT SINCE EVEN THE SPECIFIC TITLE IS RIDICULOUSLY LONG...

I think we should go back to the game publishers and demand that they change the name to something shorter.

@badpssockpuppet weren't you in the modchat for that discussion earlier?

@TimStone adding pixel padding to a 100% div is a pain i found out... had to use inner divs

@jcolebrand not sure; I had to leave midway the last one

@badpssockpuppet oh I meant today

not the modchatcast

@jcolebrand then I definitely missed it

@badpssockpuppet kk

so's you know, it came up again today.

@Jin oh I hate that

@jcolebrand Can't see it.

At any rate I personally think a tag for series and a tag for the specific game is just not what we've been doing so far. We already have [game-name-series] for questions about series (say, [half-life-series]

under your scheme, @Shog9, how'd you tag Half Life 2? [half-life] [2]?

The problem with the [proprietary super-class] and [specific game] tag combo is that there are a whole lot of series where the first game in that series is the same name as the super class

Consider the Legend of Zelda series, wherein the first game is called The Legend of Zelda. Even if we use a tag like [zelda-series] as the overarching system, how do you get people to not use [legend-of-zelda] instead when it clearly is a Legend of Zelda game?

@badpssockpuppet I think that under Shog's plan, that would be tagged [half-life-2] for the game name and [half-life] for the series/franchise name.

What @Pop said.

@PopularDemand So how do we distinguish it the [half-life] tag from when it's talking about Half Life?

@GraceNote You'll have to ask Shog that.

@GraceNote [half-life] [a-new-hope]

And, more importantly, how do you make your users use your tag scheme

@Shog9 How many people are even going to remember there's a subtitle to it?

@badpssockpuppet Please don't ever ask Shog how to make users do something.

Admittedly, I haven't played the game since I got graded on it, so that explains why I've forgotten it.

@PopularDemand If he's available to visit every anonymous user's home for some whip-based learning then I'm fire with it

graded on it?

@GraceNote Game design class?

@GraceNote Actually I'm playing it again these days. "Just" got past the Xen mini-boss.

@Shog9 Assignment: Play the original Half Life for at least 10 hours. Write about how awesome Gordon Freeman is.

Ok, so what's the worst-case here? Users post questions with [half-life] and nothing else?

Yes, and then we have a tag that's a bit about the game, a bit about the series, and a bit about the four (seven) sequels thereof

@Shog9 Worst case is that someone looking for questions on the original Half Life has to sift through all this junk from the second game.

@badpssockpuppet That's odd, I just replayed HL2 myself. Picking up achievements I never got before because I originally played it on PC.

Okay, counting Episode 3 isn't completely fair.

Note that I'm not going to push for greater-than-25 characters for tags, by the way.

In fact, I'm going to push for jetting home. Later all ♪

Later!

@GraceNote That's worse than someone looking for questions on the second game having to sift through all the junk from the first game?

bah. 'later!

@GraceNote Tags may be getting revamped to allow UTF-8

so who knows.

@Shog9 If they're tagged with two different tags, I don't see how that is an issue.

It's either [half-life-2] or [half-life].

@GraceNote so, [half-life] [half-life-1]

no, [half-life] [half-life-2] etc. and [half-life-series] for the overarching plot questions

Except it's not titled Half Life 1.

@GraceNote you have the same problem I do with leaving ;)

Dammit random, that wasn't a good duplicate. :/

Right. Jetting. Later! ♪

@TimStone concur. Shall we vote to reopen?

Well it kind of is a duplicate.

I just left a comment linking all the pieces together.

This isn't the Welbog room

Or is it?

No, it would seem not.

Half of it feels like. And another half as well. Which makes it brand new!

\o/

blinks at code

Huh

What's this? Some sanity at the USPTO?

Oh?

Oracle's Android claims slashed by US patent authorities

Not that I really now much about the merits, one way or the other.

Yay. Portal 2. Good game.

Game Over.

I win.

And there were some pretty clever parts to it.

it was neat