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Journeyman Geek

11:00 AM

also whoa. I just referenced a blog post from 09 in an answer on meta

Magisch

Is anyone here a wizard with latex?

Sha Wiz Dow Ard

!!/report meta.stackexchange.com/questions/301878/…

redhand

@Magisch there is a wizard here

Sha Wiz Dow Ard

@JourneymanGeek blog posts are eternal

Journeyman Geek

@ShaWizDowArd I needed historical context on the flagging system ;p

Sha Wiz Dow Ard

11:02 AM

@redhand but no latex

Journeyman Geek

@ShaWizDowArd as far as we know.

redhand

oops he is not wizard

it's wiz dow ard

Sha Wiz Dow Ard

!!/report 3dprinting.stackexchange.com/questions/4720/…

Magisch

I'm wondering why I need an extra package to have non-justified left aligned text

seems backwards

Journeyman Geek

isn't there a latex se?

redhand

11:03 AM

yes

Magisch

There is

redhand

tex n latex

Sha Wiz Dow Ard

@Magisch oh thought you meant this:

Latex clothing

Latex rubber is used in many types of clothing. Rubber has traditionally been used in protective clothing, including gas masks and Wellington boots. Rubber is now generally being replaced in these application by plastics. Mackintoshes have traditionally been made from rubberized cloth. Latex rubber as a clothing material is common in fetish fashion and among BDSM practitioners, and is often seen worn at fetish clubs. Latex is sometimes also used by couturiers for its dramatic appearance. Latex clothing tends to be skin-tight. There are several magazines dedicated to the use and wearing of it. Less...

Journeyman Geek

@ShaWizDowArd as far as we know...

angussidney

@Henders the most recent town hall was the last scheduled one, now the CMs are going back and having a discussion about how it's going to proceed

Sha Wiz Dow Ard

11:05 AM

@angussidney how do you know?

@JourneymanGeek I know ;)

Journeyman Geek

@ShaWizDowArd that's what shog said ;p

angussidney

@ShaWizDowArd have a read of the conversation, bluefeet said it I think

Sha Wiz Dow Ard

@JourneymanGeek where?

Journeyman Geek

I think at the end of the last one.

Magisch

@JourneymanGeek yeah I'm moaning about needing a package to un-justify aligned text and the general topic is plastic clothing

Journeyman Geek

11:07 AM

@Magisch rubber Fetish clothing.

Sha Wiz Dow Ard

@angussidney what conversation? All I see today is some random cat gifs from @Telkitty and some usual Tavern rant.

angussidney

@ShaWizDowArd the chat bookmark conversation thingy for the last town hall that was pinned for a while, I don't have the link handy sorry

But I'm pretty sure it's going to continue, considering that bluefeet agreed to have them scheduled every now and then to be accesible to AEST folks and the like

Sha Wiz Dow Ard

@angussidney oh, they said it 2 weeks ago.... but we can't know if they are actually doing it now. For all we know, that "discussion about how it's going to proceed" can also take place next week, or in 2 weeks, etc.

@angussidney we'll see... :)

angussidney

Everyone seemed to be pretty positive about it though, so I'm keeping my hopes up

Magisch

@ShaWizDowArd If there's anything I've learned to expect from the CM team is that everything takes time

... a lot of time

SmokeDetector

11:12 AM

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Sha Wiz Dow Ard

@Magisch like I said, 6-8 weeks. :)

Magisch

Wow. This coinhive thing is a new low

Now shady website operators aren't content to spam obtrusive ads. No they'll use your max CPU to mine monero for them while you're on their site

Extra extra extra monetising of your users

Sha Wiz Dow Ard

@Magisch I'm ashamed to tell that I read today about Israeli company that specialize in "monetizing apps". In other words, they do those spammy/shady things and hold 60% of the global market or so.

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Manually reported answer: How to detect cancer in general? by user11413 on health.SE

Sha Wiz Dow Ard

They do like 1B dollars per year from this crap.

Magisch

11:19 AM

Everything is monetized these days

can't have a decent profit. need ALL THE PROFIT RIGHT NOW or it's a failure

Sha Wiz Dow Ard

@Magisch exactly

aka greedy.

Magisch

Have a reputation for not screwing your customers? You too can monetize that by screwing them harder until they catch on

Looking at you, bethesda

angussidney

I don't think anyone is going to buy anything from the creation club

Magisch

Hell, game companies have started monetizing your info too by forcing you to register for things and then they'll sell your details for marketing purposes

@angussidney Now I can have a whole new weapon texture for only 10$

horse armor wih less value

angussidney

Well, PC gamers at least, considering that they can get vastly superior items/armour sets/whatevers as free mods

Henders

11:22 AM

@angussidney I hope they continue, they're pretty interesting!

Magisch

@angussidney Next step: Treating modding as copyright infringement because it cuts down on DLC profits

angussidney

@Henders me too

@Magisch shooting themselves in the foot in the process, because mods are the main drivers of sales of the game after the game is 5+ years old

And we know Bethesda isn't going to release a new game any time soon, other than ports of Skyrim/Fallout 4 to new platforms

Magisch

@angussidney Nobody said it'll be a smart move

But the trend is towards more micro-monetisation and charging for what used to be cheat codes

So mods cut down on the amount of profit you can milk from players with gambling systems and buyable power in single player games

angussidney

Have you just watched the same video that I watched earlier today? sounds like it :P

Derpy

@Magisch Skyrim was dead to my eye the day they did the ninja patch update.

TheLittleNaruto

11:28 AM

@Telkitty that looks really good and tasty of course.

Derpy

Sadly, when my old HD died, I lost most of my oblivion mods. I was starting some minor development with the creator tools to.

Now, I don't want to start again.

also, tesNexus is pretty malwertising filled nowadays from what I heard

Magisch

@Derpy ublock origin on by default

only way to be semi-safe these days

And now some websites even use your browser to hijack your CPU to mine monero for them

TheLittleNaruto

@Magisch I use ublock too. best so far.

Derpy

11:56 AM

@Magisch I use Policeman on firefox for now - that is a far worse level of paranoia. I probably will have to switch to chrome and the relative counterpart (don't remember the name now sorry) by the end of the month if the plugin architecture switch will really be as bad as I expect...

SHOULD be uMatrix, but take that with a grain of salt.

Magisch

Tis a sad state of affairs that advertising online has gotten so bad that you essentially need to block it now lest you get tons of malware / adware / crapware shoved in your face

We had an issue like this a week ago on one of the company computers - someone had misclicked into one of those "download now" buttons that appear near legit downloads. Suddenly they had "14 viruses, buy premium now to clean" ware on their pc and their browser was redirecting every request to various affiliate sites with popup and pop under ads

Derpy

@Magisch I am seriously considering switching to Qubes OS. Should I add more?

Magisch

Basicly 40-60% of the 'web right now is "BUY OUR STUFF NOW YOU WANT THIS PREMIUM ULTRA SUPER STUFF NO WE WONT SHUT UP BUY NOW"

Derpy

(and by the way it seems that some of the most paranoid users on Security and Ubuntu are indeed using Qubes OS)

rene

buys stuff

user202362

12:12 PM

@ShaWizDowArd are you sure those cat pics are random and not conveying some cryptic messages?

user202362

~try to sound deeper and more meaningful than I really am ...~

user202362

@TheLittleNaruto I am glad you mean the cake and not the albatross, I was worried when I first saw your message ...

Derpy

@Telkitty cvedetails.com/cve/CVE-2016-7212

> Microsoft Windows Vista SP2, Windows Server 2008 SP2 and R2 SP1, Windows 7 SP1, Windows 8.1, Windows Server 2012 Gold and R2, Windows RT 8.1, Windows 10 Gold, 1511, and 1607, and Windows Server 2016 allow remote attackers to execute arbitrary code via a crafted image file, aka "Windows Remote Code Execution Vulnerability."

CVSS Score 9.3

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Link at end of answer: How do I convert between the various measurements? by Fazle on cooking.SE

Derpy

now I wonder....

Sha Wiz Dow Ard

12:21 PM

@Telkitty glad to see you're back! :D

user202362

:D

Derpy

has anyone ever checked if the chat (by which I mean the infrastructure used by the chat to display and store images) is indeed vulnerable to a png bomb? That would once again prove that oneboxing everything isn't exaclty safe.

(Disclaimer: please, if you do - do it in a separate room created for the purpose after you warned the mods)

Sha Wiz Dow Ard

heh, dead link here:

Derpy

proposal was deleted

too little paranoia

SmokeDetector

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SmokeDetector

12:43 PM

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Manually reported question: want to buy house in bhubaneswar with sizes between 1700 sqft to 1900 sqft. Suggest the best price? by Z1APARTMENT on superuser.com

redhand

12:56 PM

There is one other solution and it's along the lines of "pay someone". So you have 2 options. DIY or Pay. — Jamiec 2 mins ago

Feeds

The Impressive Growth of R

David Robinson on October 10, 2017

We found in a previous post that Python has a solid claim to being the fastest-growing programming language in terms of Stack Overflow visits.

The same analysis showed that that the R programming language has shown remarkable growth in the last five years as well. In fact, R is growing at a similar rate to Python in terms of a year-over-year percentage, though this growth is “easier” because it started from a smaller share of traffic.

In another post, we found that much of the growth of Python can be explained by the expansion of data science. Since R is primarily used for statistica …

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@Feeds déjà vu...

user315433

1:14 PM

> Is this going to be a daily ritual where we use R and come up with useless posts about languages and such? This is way too common from now on. disq.us/p/1molwa8

user315433

Affirmative

user202362

I wonder what is the status of A.I. Surely with so many excellent data analyzing tools, A.I. research will be heading forward at the speed of light ...

Success

They're playing StarCraft 2 now

user202362

can we expect self driving cars and robot tradies anytime soon?

Sha Wiz Dow Ard

1:39 PM

@Desire well, Stack Overflow data team must find something to do, no?

(and a way to show they do something)

Magisch

@Telkitty It's all a conspiracy by toxoplasma gondii

user202362

pretty sure Stack overflow sells data, except weird person like me probably sits at the very tip of that bell curve

user202362

normal ppl sit in the middle

Magisch

@Telkitty Which data?

I'd assume they mostly use the data themselves for SO careers

Sha Wiz Dow Ard

They can sell the list of posts Jon Skeet upvoted for lots of money. Classic collector stuff! ;)

user202362

1:49 PM

Gosh, have not heard about that name for ages, almost forgot about him

Sha Wiz Dow Ard

SmokeDetector

2:24 PM

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Manually reported question: How would use Migbot Prusa i3 Auto leveling 3D Printer Kit for your personal or professnol uses by John Smith on 3dprinting.SE

user315433

Not sure if spam, although 3D printing spam tends to be cleverly disguised.

user315433

I just can't wait for the Better Homes and Gardens list of helpful tips for household reuse of sixteen-inch acrylonitrile-butadiene-styrene phalluses.

user315433

2:50 PM

0

A: An easy way to remember PEMDAS

pancakes eat man, demons always said...?????

user315433

Sigh Or one might, you know, try to understand what these symbols mean.

user315433

The number of calculus students who think that sin(30) means sine multiplied by 30 is depressing.

Journeyman Geek

lol

user315433

One could try to explain that "sine" multiplied by "30" does not make any sense. Problem is, from the student's point of view this is no different from everything else in math.

user315433

And of course if one actually relies on that acronym for the order of operations, then 3-1+2 is 0 for them.

user315433

3:01 PM

"The Impressive Growth of R" is also featured on English Language & Usage. Is it growing to be bigger than Q and S?

Journeyman Geek

@Desire eh, Nothing's bigger than (Mr) T tho.

Derpy

@Desire clearly, the right answer is 22.

3-1+'2'

user315433

3:18 PM

> can u hel me?

user315433

Sure, my pleasure.

Journeyman Geek

in a hanbaske?

rene

3:50 PM

What does this sentence mean?

postal ...

Journeyman Geek

I think he means that "Do you mean SE will never support this in future?"

Oded

Forever is a long time

rene

No, not never but not in my lifetime either ....

Mithrandir

A chat data explorer would be interesting

rene

yeah, that FR is already out there

Mithrandir

3:57 PM

Plus a real chat API that's maintained by SE themselves instead of cobbled together by the community...

rene

I recalled @JasonC was working on a scraper

Mithrandir

Would probably make Smokey more reliable :p

Journeyman Geek

What happened to JasonC anyway?

Mithrandir

So would SE hosting metasmoke, TBH.

rene

@JourneymanGeek I dunno, work I think

Journeyman Geek

3:58 PM

@rene ah, good

heh, he seemed like the sort who might quietly wander off and silent ragequit...

(But so would I sooooo ;p)

rene

Yes, I think he already did that once

Journeyman Geek

@Mithrandir eh. are you telling me you can't get good hosting in this community? ;p

rene

well, not silent really

Journeyman Geek

Silent

;p

I usually just quit being a mod for personal reasons and drift off when I quit a place.

Mithrandir

@JourneymanGeek Undo keeps having problems, it's been mostly down last few days

Journeyman Geek

4:00 PM

(I keep getting made a mod. Heaven knows why)

rene

before anyone wants to take over that stuff, it needs to be documented, cleaned-up and a solid devops manual.

Journeyman Geek

Also wouldn't quite fit neatly into SE's current setup

(since I suppose that's linux and... I donno what its in, python?)

rene

Too much well meant attempts at the moment, no really guidance/goal/organized effort

user315433

Metasmoke is Ruby on Rails.

rene

that ^

topbar issue, needs fixing, high-prio please: i.stack.imgur.com/jhPiO.png

user315433

4:09 PM

If assigning version to navigation is too boring, we should have brand names.

user315433

This one could be Topbar Vista.

rene

I like that

Journeyman Geek

I just call it "2017 topbar"

user315433

The page https://stackexchange.com/users/inbox/{NetworkId} has the contents of the inbox, which replaces the topbar inbox for me. Is there something similar for reputation changes?

Mithrandir

$SiteName.stackexchange.com/reputation

user315433

4:16 PM

That's for one site.

Mithrandir

Yeah.

I don't think there's one network wide, sorry.

At least as far as I'm aware.

user315433

Possibly. But clicking the rep icon loads something, so I'm just looking for a way to load that thing directly.

Adam Lear

@Desire /topbar/achievements but you'll be missing styling

user315433

Thanks, exactly what I wanted.

Mithrandir

Oh, interesting

user315433

4:27 PM

@JourneymanGeek Ambiguous. There is SO 2017 topbar and SE 2017 topbar.

user315433

There's also https://stackexchange.com/topbar/inbox but https://stackexchange.com/users/inbox/id is better.

redhand

5:00 PM

@Magisch got a sock of your pro pic

djsmiley2k, Coventry, United Kingdom

55 9

redhand

5:15 PM

1.5GB? a documentation?

sorry for bad freehand red circles?

user315433

It's the whole site with many images. github.com/ionic-team/ionic-site

redhand

hmm. can't clone a part of it. But I didn't these much size

oops

github.com/ionic-team/ionic-site/tree/master/assets/img

user315433

6:05 PM

What should a developer do if their affinity isn't growing? Does DAGteam offer pills for that?

Anonymous

We can give you a referral to you an affinity specialist.

rene

6:40 PM

sd f

user315433

Well I'm not a developer so the growth of my affinity isn't within DAG's purview... just asking for a friend, you know.

user315433

Speaking of growth, the series "The incredible growth of Python", "The impressive growth of R"... will need new adjectives soon. Some ideas:

user315433

The Thirty Meter Telescope will be renamed The Flesh-Searing Eye on the Volcano.

rene

6:58 PM

What if they ever reach Final? What will be next? Final, the sequel?

Andy

Final, Part 2

Jenna Sloan

It'd just be "The Telescope"

user315433

8:32 PM

> Update: the 4 key has now died completely. I can no longer program: - C# interpolated strings - jQuery - PHP - ends-with regexes -- Nick Craver at 1:11 PM - 10 Oct 2017

user315433

Twitter is helpful for once: someone immediately sent Nick an emergency pack of 4 and $ characters.

canon

Telescope: Tokyo Drift

gnat

9:18 PM

in The Water Cooler on The Stack Exchange Network Chat, 4 hours ago, by Masked Man

Hey guys, do you think this would be a good fit on Workplace.SE: "My employer has released a new feature, that has been universally criticized and lampooned by the users. Privately, I agree with the criticism, but my employer has asked us to sing its praises in all customer interactions, because this feature draws attention to some obscure features and will supposedly bring more revenue. How should I negotiate this situation?"

Catija

@gnat .... Yeah, that's not overtly obvious.

user315433

Yeah, but the issue of white topbar privilege is systemic.

Catija

Though, I'm pretty sure that he's not employed by SE.

user315433

Black ones have to follow what the white one does, even when it's not on their own interest.

Adam Lear

@Catija He's not

Catija

9:32 PM

@AdamLear Yeah... it was a joke. I was actually talking to him earlier about his complaint.

Adam Lear

Yeah, I saw

you're a braver person than I am for getting into that exchange at all :)

Catija

Braver... dumber... you know. I like you all and I think you do amazing things. I don't really like seeing people make blanket statements about how you don't care about the users... I've also never seen him before, so there may be some back story there I'm missing.

Adam Lear

Thanks :)

Journeyman Geek

11:53 PM

@gnat VTC, obviously contrived clickbaity question ;p

also, its funny when you look back and realise this happens every single time

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